Infinity Ward has released the new Heavy Duty playlist for Call of Duty: Ghosts on Xbox 360, PS3, PC, Xbox One, and PS4. Infinity Ward announced this mode last week stating that this mode will offer increased health in a variety of modes.

The new mode is available under the standard playlists; it’s a moshpit playlist with TDM, Blitz, and Domination.

SOURCE: Ghosts

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  • Yeezus

    BREAKING NEWS: New Heavy Duty mode increases health by 69%.

    • Guest

      There’s MTS, MSBS and PDW all with specialist classes in Infected.

    • HenryDF

      MORE BREAKING NEWS: There’s Riot Shield/Magnum, MSBS, MTS and PDW in Infected. With the Riot Shield/Magnum, the Infected have Semtex rather than throwing knifes.

    • TheTruth

      YESSS Finally i can get back on Ghosts as this heavey duty mode might actually play like the Run and Gun COD gameplay i love! Thanks for listening IW! will be interesting to see the number of players in this playlist vs Normal

    • Cycovision

      Health is only 130, MR28 was 2HK at 65 damage

  • lays

    its also out on ps4

  • Oh snap,now people gonna rage: FUC*ING GOD MODE THAT GUY DIDNT DIE

    • John Blue

      Same people who raged “WHAT THE FCK WHY AM I DYING SO FAST” when the game came out 😀

      • Chris Mason

        I call them cry babies.

        • TheShadowReaper

          so 90% of the COD fanbase is crybabies and the dying speed of this game is ok? sure pal. yeah sure…

          • Chris Mason

            Yes. Yes they are. 40% of the fan base is too young to play the game. 32% of the fan base is casual. 22% are core gamers. See? I can through out random percentages to make my argument more valid too.

          • TheShadowReaper

            its not random percentages you moron. everyone is talking about this. everyone. i just think that there are just a few that like it this way so i guess 90% is quite close. but you on the other hand just threw random percentages since you didnt do any sort of research about what the community says or likes.

          • Chris Mason

            Lol. OK dude.

          • TheShadowReaper

            well i dont want to sound like i hate Ghosts but unfortunately i will.

            have you seen anyone saying anything positive about the game? the only thing that anyone will say is that IW is trying but everyone knows thats the only thing they can do after offering us a COD that isnt a COD. “Lol. OK dude”

            http://community.callofduty.com/thread/200789696#.UsRY1rSmbEg

            http://steamcommunity.com/app/209170/discussions/0/648811126872939733/

            gg.

          • Chris Mason

            Here’s the thing. I don’t look to others when it comes to liking or disliking something. I formulate an opinion based on my experience and then go out and share that opinion to either change someone’s mind, be the devils advocate, or simply confide in like-minded people.

            So, what’s to like about Ghost? Well, seeing as how I can be the anyone; I think the gun balancing is basically spot-on. Each weapon has a strength to play to and weaknesses to play against. After over 2000 kills with every assault rifle to get them all gold, I could write an essay on how to use them. Hit detection is scary good. If that meant removing theater, so be it. I have a capture device.

            Maps are large with power areas for nearly any type of weapon. Even Stonehaven. Don’t think so? Try holding the village or the ruins with an SMG or shotgun. You’d be surprised. In any map, using routes is important, its just that in Ghosts there are a lot of ways you have to look before doing something brash.

            Kill streaks are not so over the top, which is good. Granted, I went on a 15 spree with a maniac last night, after a teammate pulled a KEM out on them.

            Shall I go on? I’m not blind to the faults, but unlike a vast majority of players, I look for what is done right first. That’s my point.

          • TheShadowReaper

            quite agree except for the map part. first time we’ve been introduced in such maps (imo even worse than MW3’s maps) but the balancing is there for the most part. well if you accept the fact that is has a lot of flaws then its ok to like it…i guess.

            also another first is you recommenting with a smart answer instead of what i’ve been mostly seeing from you particularly.

          • Chris Mason

            True balance would be every gun having the same damage, ROF, firing mode, ranges, etc. Which would be boring and thoroughly stupid to actually do. Take the MSBS. Yes, two shots to the big toe used to kill. Yes, you didn’t have to be super accurate. But if you missed on the first burst in a heads up gun fight, the delay would be your doom. Flimsy to some, I suppose, but still true.

            And in spite of my best attempts… when in Rome, sometimes you behave like Romans.

          • TheShadowReaper

            well if we put it that way its not called balancing anymore rather equality of every gun and equipment. which would be boring and dull as fuck of course. i hope our community doesnt take us to that level cause of their stupidity, bitching and moaning to any MSBS that pumps up in the future.

          • Chris Mason

            Hence; Romans.

          • TheShadowReaper

            seriously i just disregarded the first time you referred it but what the heck, shut up about it i’m half roman damn it! ^^’

    • HenryDF

      People are gonna complain there’s too little/too much added health, call IW shit, call the game shit, and then go back and play it more…

      • Chris Mason

        Pretty much. No wonder they don’t listen as well as they maybe should be listening to us. They can’t hear the valid arguments because of all the petty, nonsensical, juvenile slander of the majority who still play the shit out of the game as-is.

        EDIT: Look below. I rest my case.

        • HenryDF

          The thing I find most annoying is how, from the start, people will be criticising a game calling it awful and saying something “Oh, BO2 was far better..”. The thing I don’t understand is, if they hate Ghosts so much, they have 9 other CoD titles to choose from – if one is better than Ghosts in their opinion, then they can go play that and stop being so pathetic.

          • Chris Mason

            But then they can’t be up to date enough for their hate to be relevant. I can say now my opinion of MW2, BO1, MW3 or BO2 but does it matter? Most everyone has moved on to Ghosts or moved laterally to another shooter – or are waiting for a new shooter. But if I expressed my opinion of Ghosts – positive or negative – then damn, I’d get lots of feedback.

          • Choppabro2psn

            It’s guys like you fags that are terrible at it….that’s why you find it likable. You never do good so when you die you’re like ” oh yeah it happens” even if you aimed first with the faster more superior gun and shot half a clip only to be outgunned by a pistol. Sure ghosts is not perfect just like any other game….but at least have some decency to admit it’s not perfect.

          • Chris Mason

            … How in the fuck does anything I’ve said warrant the remark of “fag” from you? Anything else you had to say was fucking worthless after that. I don’t have shit to say, prove, or otherwise justify to people like you.

          • Choppabro2psn

            It’s obvious you’re a fucking cod fanboy that can’t see anything infinity ward does wrong..pussy. And even after thinking cod is perfect, you’re probably terrible at it. You get lots of feed back because nobody wants to hear you’re feedback. You have no clue what’s going on at infinity ward, and for you to even try to state what’s going on and blaming players, excluding yourself, is just plain witless. You’re a pussy that nobody likes, and keep you’re thoughts to yourself.

          • Chris Mason

            Forgive me for not pandering to your immature, ignorant and shortsighted slander (or, if you’d prefer, I don’t get into fights with a keyboard) but I have to ask; What are you so mad about, kid?

          • Choppabro2psn

            I’m no kid, and for someone who doesn’t get into fights with keyboards, you sure have been doing so for the past few days….if you’re were bona fide to your word, you would’ve have paid no heed to my comment. Away with this argument, I’m done with it.

          • Chris Mason

            I’m just trying to challenge you to speak with a point to your posts, instead of needlessly filling up comments sections with unmitigated hate and profanity – something a child would do while all the grown ups talk about the things that matter. And you clearly are reading deep into my comments if you think I’m fighting.

          • Choppabro2psn

            I said I’m done. What purpose do you have to comment to me once more. And when it comes to a game that everyone hates, there’s no need for adult logic, since when int he game it’s a bunch of kids spitting profanity from there vocal cords. Even on this forum. And you feel the need to reply with what you did. I don’t care anymore. Goodbye Mr. Mason

          • Chris Mason

            Probably for the best. You’re not ready to talk at an adult level anyways.

          • Choppabro2psn

            Bye sad old guy.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i never talk about vulgar language like its a bad thing, on the other hand i encourage the use of vulgar language in a conversation cause it gives emphasis in what you want to talk about but you sir…i have no clue what the heck you are talking about thus, your “emphasis” is just vulgar language for the sake of using vulgar language rather than trying to prove a point…which is despicable.

          • Choppabro2psn

            Vulgar language is, in general, offensive to people. Proving a point never has to be inclusive with vulgar language. I’ve no idea what the blazes you’re even talking about.So for you to interject this painfully meaningless conversation, that i thought I had done away with days ago is simply meaningless. As I’ve stated before I have no more interest in entertaining bottom feeders such as yourself or cod ghost forums. Have fun scrolling down the comment section and troll people as much as your heart can possibly with hold. It’s crystal that your one with going off topic, since this all started about my response to a very brazen statement. I’ll be on my way now.

          • TheShadowReaper

            and you still make no sense, thus proving my point. my job here is done.

          • Choppabro2psn

            Ok I made no sense to he pathetic little whole I’m arguing with…..of course you’ll sa that in order to prove yourself right”..bu have fun wit you’re life…I make perfect sense and prof nity had nothing to do with this topic, thus proving my point….please do not comment to me any more…. Because your so called job that has been done ( lol trolling people on the internet, what a job) has been a complete waste of time. There, argument over and won.

          • Carson Jones

            Wait, when did he state the exact words “Call of Duty is perfect.” You just wanted to call someone a fanboy so you could go the rest of the day getting an argument in. And if he was bad at the game, why would it matter to you? You are what this whole line of comments is about.

          • Choppabro2psn

            What are you, his mother or boyfriend…bah, away with this, in accompany with what I said above. Good day.

          • I♥COD

            i think its because players have done like 20+ days on the other COD titles and maxed them out! Plus relevent league play / clan wars. And most of all its the current COD that the majority will be on.

        • Choppabro2psn

          You’re still a pussy fanboy, who’s trying to sound intellectual about a videos games developer and it’s fanbase.

          • Chris Mason

            OK, bud. Whatever you need to feel better about yourself. 🙂

          • Choppabro2psn

            Haha about myself that’s rich

          • Chris Mason

            I’m glad you feel that way. 🙂 Merry Christmas.

          • Choppabro2psn

            Yknow, merry Christmas. 😀

          • I♥COD

            i am a massive COD fanboy but ghosts has disspaointed me to the point Ive given up on it. Just cos your a fanboy does not make someones argument invalid.

          • Choppabro2psn

            To whom are you speaking…I used to be a cod fan boy, but you and I alike, I’ve also given up on it.

    • K.E.M

      MERRY CHRISTMAS RILEY!
      I got you a treat

      • Merry Christmas to you too sir

        • TheShadowReaper

          happy new year COD dog.

          • Happy new year Black Reaper 😉

  • Rimbo

    good to see the hardcore community gets nowt…….AGAIN…….

    • Edwin Cortez

      What?

    • ElseAndrew

      If you want an extra health playlist in Hardcore, play Core you idiot.

      • Rimbo

        i never mentioned extra health for hardcore you thick tool,i wanted ctf or dem for it……nub.

        • ElseAndrew

          Core doesn’t even have CTF why on earth do you think you will get it. HC players are a minority your needs aren’t really all that important to IW.

          • John Blue

            Thank you for understanding the problem. We should get Demolition and CTF for BOTH HC and Standard lists

          • Chris Mason

            I’m a HC player when clan wars aren’t going on, and I approve this comment.

    • Keshav Bhat

      Why do you think that? Where did IW say “fuck hardcore players”? They can’t just throw playlists out there. It fragments the community. They probably plan some things, but they aren’t ready to talk about it.

  • you can add this dumn shit but wont put demo or team defender back in the game. SMH . IW is making BLOPS II look like a legendary game bahahahah

    • Chris Mason

      Because we aren’t even 2 months past release and they should do EVERYTHING WE WANT GOD DAMN RIGHT FUCKING NOW BECAUSE IM SCREAMING ABOUT IT, right?

      Have some fucking patience.

      • We are 2 months in and the game is stale. Amplify has taken over current gen once adapters come out for next gen this game will be dead. RIP 3-11-14. #titanfall

        • TheShadowReaper

          and what is the hashtag about? another project to be blown away by COD in sales? no wonder it releases many months away, just so it can actually sell some units and bring some profit. if it was releasing close to COD, now thats a story to laugh about.

          • TheTruth

            yeah but after the failure of ghosts i would expect a much closer battle if they was released at the same time in the future.

          • TheShadowReaper

            failure? the game still hasnt stopped selling, where is this “failure” you’re talking about?

        • Chris Mason

          Stale in your opinion. I’m into my 8th soldier, just won my second clan war (platinum division), and almost have gold gun #7 (Remington r5). I have no clue what you’re talking about.

          • clan wars is a joke

          • 1v1?

          • Chris Mason

            Lol. You… want to 1v1 me? In a game that you are bitching about… in a forum where most people are either pro-Ghosts or are at least capable of maturely stating problems they have with it?

            Wow. Just wow.

          • i didnt say i was bad at the game . 🙂 grow a pair and come see me

          • Chris Mason

            Nah, I’d hate to give you more shit to whine about that is “broken” in Ghosts. 🙂

          • theTruth

            i would not say most people here are pro ghosts at all.

          • Chris Mason

            You missed the second part of that, apparently.

      • The DLC has to be superb if they think people will want to play this for a year.

      • Keshav Bhat

        Exactly. It isn’t so simple to make new modes for a game. It takes time. IW is aware of the feedback that fans want new modes. Have patience. Screaming RIP RIP RIP COD will never work.

    • K.E.M

      You make this generation look stupid bahahahah

  • Andres Alfonso

    Is this comeing to Wii U?

    • TheShadowReaper

      well as much as i hate Nintendo for being a stubborn fuck and still continue their idiotic plans for leaving the whole market to PS4, XboxOne and PC to dominate i really cant blame you guys that use a WiiU. i want to sound like an optimist but i would just lie to myself and you so…no. this probably wont be coming to WiiU, and if it does kudos to IW.

  • Hugo

    There are also new infected classes, such ass the MTS shotgun and the MSBS

    • ElseAndrew

      I tried Infected same old Bulldog was the only option.

      • LORDFIST111

        Same here but maybe it depends on the game mode, like in MW3. Ima try that until i find one

        • CypZxR

          they havent patch the infected yet

          • LORDFIST111

            Thanks mate

  • jrnotaloka

    Use ballistic vests on heavy duty people are gonna get mad at you

    • Chris Mason

      Armor Piercing. Next?

  • Joeldagod

    I still want grind and the classic gamemodes back (demo,ctf,and hq) also why not 3rd person playlist

  • Nick Fasciana

    This is great! i like the standard health as it is but i cant wait to try this out too, plus i love the game modes they chose for this moshpit

  • yardis

    I loving this new playlist. I’ve played two games and it seems so much better. I’m not dying before I see the person or getting insta killed by weapons. I think they should increase the health to whatever this game modes health is. Maybe I’ll come back and play more because I stopped playing this game two weeks after the game was out.

    • BLOW

      Thats great to hear, maybe they can make this the norm now.

  • LORDFIST111

    I dont know if I posted this yet, I thought I did but I cant find it, Did the Squad Points update thingy go live yet? Oh and does it work for characters that youve already ranked up to level 4? Or is it just new soldiers that you unlock?

    • Chris Mason

      No idea but I hope its retroactive. I’m on soldier 8, level 19.

      • LORDFIST111

        Me to. So far ive unlocked all of the low point soldiers and mastered one of them. And ive ranked the rest of them up to level 4. Id love to unlock 5 squad points each to rank them up to level 5.

  • Baldmanz_RAGE

    I have to hand it to IW for attempting to do something for people that don’t prefer the fast killing in the game. I can’t wait to try it out on PS4. This may be what is needed to get people moving in this game. I’m good either way. I adapt to every COD so it’s not a big deal to me. I would of been totally Ok with the fast killing if they would of had a perk like Ghost in BO2 where you are only not seen if you are moving. Then you could camp your nuts off and I wouldn’t give a shit. But if you equipped all the stealth perks and have a silencer you are pretty much invisible. Couple that with the bigger maps and the fast dying I can see why people prefer BO2. That being said if you don’t like the game you don’t have to play it. Developers can’t please everyone. But it does look like IW is trying. My hats off to them.

    • AverageJoe

      totally agree, only i found adpating to camp slow gameplay sooo boring that it just wasnt COD anymore for me. But yeah its nice to see them listening to the community. Why fix something that isnt broken? i know people moan about copy and paste COD’s but i would of prefered one over Ghosts.

    • errno

      Don’t get too excited, I prefer a slower pace although can adjust easily to a faster pace, so I was interested to try Heavy Duty out.

      Sadly it makes very little difference. All that has happened now is that people are running around with rapid fire SMGs and high rate of fire ARs that still kill you in an instant.

      • Shortydk

        hmm, not in my experience, I see hell of a lot running around with the ak-12.

  • Run N Gunning Camper

    I just tried HD and it feels like it is how Core health should have been. I hated the insta kills and HD just feels right. I hope they integrate the amount of health in HD into all Core game modes.

    • vito

      10000% right.the game was fun for the 1st time

  • K.E.M

    Why not just lessen the hit detection all together?

    • Chris Mason

      Because instant death > putting 10 bullets into someone.

      • K.E.M

        Well the hit detection is at it’s highest. Just lessen it by like 3 or 5%

        • Chris Mason

          I’m not a professional code writer, nor do I have the slightest idea where to even begin unraveling the code of the game, but I’m pretty sure it is much more difficult than just “turning a dial down,” as you basically put it.

          And as another poster said; everyone got used to BO1, MW3, BO2-style garbage hit detection. My advice? Work on accuracy/acquisition if its that important to you. Reason? PWNSTARZdotCOM is insanely accurate and drops people like flies where as I am slightly sloppier but have begun averaging 2 K/D games lately. How? Working on getting my shots on target.

          I’m having few issues with hit detection. Sometimes I got hit by someone with that Wanted perk, but that’s maybe 1 out of 8 gunfights in general.

          • K.E.M

            First of all sir…thanks for not being a douche like the rest of the people.
            And my accuracy is horrible! but I got like a 2.78 KD according to my bo2 KD 0.79. (btw go back to bo2 and play a bit,and i bet you’d of improved your accuracy,happened to me.)
            But the Heavy Duty playlist is a solution,so i’m not mad about it.
            Merry Christmas!

          • Chris Mason

            Personally, even of BO2 offered to clean my house every week, buy me steak dinners, and give me hand jobs thrice weekly, I’d still never go back.

            And I am a douche, but only when it is justified.

            Edit: And Merry Christmas to you as well.

          • K.E.M

            Yeah,theres a huge sniping population there i’d admit. But most of them are gone.

    • DanDustEmOff

      Because we have had 3 years of bad hit detection, iW have done a great job with the hit detection, lag comp, map design and you want them to make it worse again? I’m glad to have CoD back to the way it was before BO1. All people have done for the past 3 years is suffer and moan about lag, hit detection and small maps. Now we get a game where everything works right and you’re moaning it works too well. Get real, go play any Lag ops game if you want bad hit detection.

      • TheShadowReaper

        hey hey. the maps are horrible. plz. these are no way COD4 or BO1 maps. they remind me of the chaotic chaos of MW3. btw MW3 has the worst maps in the franchise, just saying.

        • vito

          i agreed up until the end. these maps are waaaaaaay worse. in mw3 there were a couple maps that the majority of the lobby wold vote for. like hardhat,arkaden,bootleg,dome,resistance.there were some horrible ones dont get me wrong but there were some that really didnt get old.in this you have only strikezone that is just a constant frenzy and that is ruined with that kem strike package thing.all these maps have 2-3 levels,too damn big and no real rhyme or reason to the placement of anything like cars or windows.its just so random.and flooded is the worst map ive played in a any fps iver ever played.

          • TheShadowReaper

            tbh i agree, but there are some maps that show promise in Ghosts. for example, Octane, Tremor, Strikezone and Siege are quite good maps, not perfect but good. but on the other hand there are maps like Flooded, Chasm, Stormfront and Stonehaven that really brings you close to committing suicide. still, most of the worst maps that i have seen are in MW3 i just couldnt take this game. couldnt handle it. thats why i stopped playing it ofc.

      • K.E.M

        I was just wondering,you don’t have to get butthurt about it bro. And the reason why we die so fast is because of a really high hit detection. The highest in all the call of duty games.

        “Now we get a game where everything works right and you’re moaning it works too well” where oh where was I moaning? when I asked “Why not just lessen the hit detection all together?” I was questioning.

      • K.E.M

        It was just a thought,no need to be a bitch about it sir.

  • lumps-of-a-god

    they should add more health in the WHOLE game not in one playlist…….

    • DanDustEmOff

      Not really, I bet you now that this lobby will be dead by the end of January. What people seem to forget is that you may live longer but your enemy does too. Then the same people will be “I just shot that dude, why is he not dead, thats bs he just turned round and killed me, he must be hacking, this game sucks, @IW fix your shit”

      Bottom line playlist is the way to go.

      • errno

        Exactly. It makes the game slower and also gives more opportunity for other enemies to spot you in the act of killing and double-team you.

    • AverageJoe

      Totally agree, ive been waiting for the patch note that increases health so i can start playing again! they were so close!

  • Roxas3510

    People actually complained about the health being too low? Everyone got too adjusted to MW3/BO2’s weak weapons apparently. I personally like the kill speed of this game, it reminds of me of the good ol days of CoD4/MW2 where reaction speed and target acquisition actually mattered. More health just means more chances to lose gunfights to enemies you locked onto first, because you got quickscoped or got off target due to flinch since they had enough time to react when they should have been dead.

    • CGkillZ

      Actually with more health it’ll mean you can turn on people shooting you from behind and it gives you a better chance of killing them.

      • Roxas3510

        Yes, I know, that’s the point I’m making, you shouldn’t be able to do that. Having a chance to win a gunfight you should have lost isn’t good. Well, in the eyes of the casual players it is because it means they don’t have to get good to do well at the game. Since that’s the majority of people who buy this game, I understand why they put this mode in.

        • TheShadowReaper

          the point is that you should be able to do that. a fight shouldnt be who glanced the enemy first and shot 2 bullets and got a kill, it should be whoever can lock for more time on his/her target. thats skill. not 2 bullet kills.

          • Roxas3510

            Turning on someone who’s shooting you in the back isn’t skill, that’s luck. And yes, skill should be about whoever can stay accurate longer, but that’s not the case in CoD. I know I’m a very accurate shooter, but I’ve lost many gunfights (due to high health) because before I could get the kill, the other player would quickscope/noscope me, make my gun flinch to the moon, or spin around and shotgun me. With higher weapon damage, none of this would happen. In a game like Battlefield or Halo, being the more accurate shooter actually matters, but not in CoD. I’m sure you’ll disagree with me, as most people on this site do if I say anything negative about this game, so don’t worry, I won’t argue about it.

          • CGkillZ

            Skill is better aiming. Not who can shoot each other in the foot with a msbs from behind. BO2 was good with this. You could live and get soo many kills if you had good aim, in this game you shoot someone once and then your dead. I’ve gotten used to dying quick but I like being able to turn on people in corners.

          • Roxas3510

            In BO2 I had such good aim, but then I’d get quickscoped before all of the bullets needed to kill the player hit him. All I’m saying is more health means you have to be able to aim better, but it doesn’t seem like it’s better in CoD. This game is very fast paced; so much can happen in the split second it takes to kill someone. There has been many times where I was perfectly on target and got killed by a guy throwing a C4. If the health wasn’t so high, I would have killed him before he detonated the C4. I’m seeing the point you and these other guys are making but it doesn’t seem like anyone understands where I’m coming from, so I might be done here.

          • CGkillZ

            Well in this mode the c4 wouldn’t have killed you. Or atleast explosives haven’t killed me yet. More health in this game feels nice, only if more people played it on ps3.

          • Roxas3510

            It’s understandable for this mode since health overall is increased. In games like BO2 and MW3 where weapon damage was just weaker, things like that would happen

          • TheShadowReaper

            my god can you get more stupid than that?

            ofc its skill, being able to turn on your opponent means that your opponent wasnt skillful enough to lock on you and kill you. then you turn around lock into his head and you won a fight skillfully. thats how it was done in COD4, BO1, BO2. in the rest games its less health and just 2 shot kills, and thats no skill. not the other way around. and i disagree with you cause you’re wrong on the matter.

            as for the “more skillful” games, Halo is a boring not able to die game and BF is a mess with big maps. so lets not go into that convo cause they both dont have anything on COD.

            and no, its not about saying negative things about Ghosts, its about differentiate what is right and what is wrong. you dont know how a COD game should work? go play COD4 and BO1 and L2P first then come talk smack.

          • Roxas3510

            Lmao this is great. You’re being biased towards CoD by completely shutting down battlefield and halo, claiming they “don’t have anything on COD”. Then you say I should go back and play CoDs that I’ve already played and mastered, and you’re accusing me of talking smack? Where did I talk smack? This is the type of comment I was referring to lol, the fact that you’re telling me to “L2P” shows that you automatically think you’re better at the game than me, so you know more about what skill is in a game like CoD. Unfortunately, you’re probably one of the casual players of CoD who thinks they’re better than everyone even though CoD is the only shooter they can play. Sorry but I don’t really converse with close-minded people, I’m done here.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i dont like to repeat myself…oh well.

            1) you completely disregarded the point i made which was to totally destroy your point with facts yet you dont aknowledge that, instead you talk about Halo and BF.
            2) yes Halo and BF never had anything on COD. why, does it really butt hurt you that much to state mere facts?
            3) never stated that you are a worse player than me, right now its probably the opposite cause i am rusty since i havent played COD competitively for a long time but, when you talking about weapon damages and you got 10 out of 10 facts about those wrong then its ok for me to assume that your COD knowledge is bellow average. so its completely your fault and not mine.
            4) about weapon damages. you have no idea what you’re talking about.
            5) no i’m not a casual player…or at least wasnt when i played a lot. but even if you try to make a point out of this i’ll counter it by saying that i have enough experience on COD that i can easily read the game system and how it works by playing 2-3 games.
            6) no, COD isnt the only shooter i can play. i’m a FPS freak/fanboy so most of my time goes to FPS games and LoL.
            7) where did you talk smack? “People actually complained about the health being too low? Everyone got too adjusted to MW3/BO2’s weak weapons apparently.” does that mean that we are such casuals we dont know what we are talking about? or “Turning on someone who’s shooting you in the back isn’t skill, that’s luck.” instead of actually being skill instead of luck, you totally miss the point of skillful in a COD game but does that mean i’m a noob cause i’m lucky? are you accusing me and anyone else who is skillful enough to do that he or she is just a lucky noob? yeah sounds legit.

            you can get all emo and hipstery “Sorry but I don’t really converse with close-minded people, I’m done here.” when you’re being close and numb minded yourself. i dont care if you read this or not but if you do know that your stupidity wont go unanswered. and thus, my point is made.

          • Roxas3510

            I only read that last part hoping to get the summary of that wall of text, so sorry to disappoint, but I didn’t read it. I’m guessing you feel very accomplished, like you proved a point or something from writing all of that so I’ll just let it end there so you can be satisfied since you seem to take it that seriously. I realize that once it’s obvious the person I’m having a debate with (especially about anything CoD-related) doesn’t understand what I’m saying, there’s really nothing more that can be done but to leave it be. Not sure if you’re going to reply with some more facts (I actually went back and read that part lol nice one), but I’m just letting you know that there’s no need; you’re right and I was wrong, k? This was one the more hilarious conversations I’ve had with people in the comment section on the Internet, at least one thing good came out of all this 🙂

          • TheShadowReaper

            cya then online on Ghosts.

          • errno

            That isn’t how the game works though. You’re completely mis-guided.

            You don’t spot someone on your TV and shout I SAW HIM and then the player is dead.

            The skill comes with aiming and reflexes. Being able to track a player as you shoot with zero recoil guns does not require much skill.

          • TheShadowReaper

            cause shooting 2 bullets and get a kill out of a 30 round magazine needs a lot of skill and reflexes right?

            yes, shouting at the screen “i saw him” is the same as getting a kill on Ghosts. i wonder who is misguided or just plain stupid here.

          • AverageJoe

            Exactly! in ghosts a complete noob can kill a veteran just cos he saw him first, its taken the skill out of cod.

          • TheShadowReaper

            for me personally it takes away the joy of being able to mow down noobs in triple or multi kills like nothing. i never thought i would say that but, even COD is becoming more casual these days. yes it sounds stupid but its true. thank god that Treyarch keeps it real with their titles.

        • vito

          how many times have you died from 2 bullet long shots from some guy spraying and praying with an AR to your feet in ghosts?anser=far too many

          • Roxas3510

            Answer= none that I can recall. I don’t run around like a chicken with its head cut off so I don’t get dropped by some camper across the map with an AR in only two bullets. What game are you playing where you’re dying from only 2 shots across the map? Something like that seems more connection based. The only time I get dropped from across the map is from a sniper rifle.

  • I have played this gamemode and it’s not really good. You still die pretty quickly and you don’t have really a lot of health. It feels the same as when you die in other gamemodes there really isn’t a difference.

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      Exactly.

    • vito

      yes there is. in core i could not drop shot,halo jump or turn on any camper waiting for me in corner my screen wouldnt even turn red i just died instantly in call of duty hide and seek. now in heavy duty you experience gun fights that require you to have true aim.being able to stay on target while being shot/shot at while trying to outsmart and out gun your opponent and maneuvering around cover.its waaaaay more fun.feels like mw3 ttk. want to die fast there is already hardcore.heavy duty is perfect for core players

      • I still cannot dropshot, halo jump, or turn on any enemies when I play on heavy duty or core. The health system literally feels the same.

  • SoulTaker

    To bad it doesn’t have Cranked my favorite game mode but then again it’s not a big deal at all. Hopefully this quiets some people down about the health being to low.

  • iAmEFFeX

    I think this is one of the best changes that they made in a long time, this is pretty cool! If it changes the insta-death nature of the game, I’m all for it.

  • Edwin Cortez

    A lot of players just dont learn to adapt to the game they expect the same they were used to, in mw3 i used to rush, also on bo2 because it was easier for me. Now with the map design and the health i need to camp more to play well. I belive beside the obvious spawn problems what this game really needs are good dlc maps, warhawk type of maps in my opinion (not too big not too small). But i know IW will bring us a mix between Chasm and Siege.

  • Mark Fortin

    ok i hope it stays in the one playlist i like the fast killing

  • serious joke

    i actually think the lowered health was good, this game could have geared toward more tactical team gameplay. but i think a big part of the community has turned to camping and perching up on a spot with a thermal scope weapon, making some rounds unplayable. this game could be a lot better if it wasnt for this, oh and stupid hackers with that minigun. hopefully things get better

  • serious joke

    the maps are different from previous iw cod titles, i admit i despise some maps, most are good and could play i vital role in how some matches are played, i wish ctf was still a game mode. one of the flaws of this game is definatley the camping… big maps + thermal scoped sniper rifles = unplayable rounds and almost all players camping. as you can see im not a fan of thermal scope, i dont use it, and i dont suck, but i get sniped so easily because players just shoot on the white areas when they scope and its pretty much 1 shot kill, im all ready running dead silence on every load out, so now i have to waste another perk slot to counter this? annoying.

  • GokuRules

    Who says health is increased by 69%? Fuck no! 30% more health you jerk! IceRink5am did a video about that!

  • Bill

    wow, that is pretty intense that they have added that. Going to slap on my gaming mask http://scorefangear.com/collections/frontpage/products/new-ghost-mask and own some kids over the holidays!