Charlie INTEL fans, we’d like to get your input in regards to a couple of topics for Call of Duty, mainly Advanced Warfare. We’re curious on what our fans are thinking so heres your chance to let your voice be heard. You only get one vote in each category so make it count!

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  • Guest

    Please AW, don’t be centered around eSports. Only 1% of your fanbase plays eSport…

    • blbsnipe

      Probably more like 30%, but I agree it shouldn’t be be centered around eSports.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        5%.

    • Hostslayer

      50%+ is okay with it so..

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Then those people have issues.

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          Everyone who doesn’t share the same opinion as you has issues? wut

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Not because they have a different opinion than me, but because it’ll ruin the game. You must think selflessly.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            It has pluses and minuses. Thinking it would improve or worsen the game is an opinion.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It’s factual in the sense that it effects the game, and it’s also factual in the sense that there’s only a minority of players that play, support, and watch competitive gaming. At least 5% compared to the core audience.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            True, but it doesn’t mean they have issues if they like certain aspects of how e-sports affect the game.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Then you can apply what you said, whether it effects the game positively or not, is heavily opinionated. For me, e-Sports ruins the game because it messes with the mentality of someone. They change. They become arrogant and self-centered, and they improperly represent us gamers. That is what I disrespect, and that is the main reason why I will never support it. BUT that is heavily opinionated.

            It’s not going anywhere, so why not make the e-Sports players play the ENTIRE game instead of 5% of it?

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            I don’t really follow e-sports so I’m not sure how it works. What do you mean they only use 5% of the game? I know league play restricted certain aspects of the game, but it wasn’t too much.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            They restrict the core things of multiplayer that effect the game, thus they aren’t playing the ACTUAL game. “5%” could be accurately used on Ghosts, because the “pros” only play around 3 maps, 3-4 guns, and 3-4 game modes, that’s definitely a small portion of the game.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Oh, well that doesn’t really affect everyone else though.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It influences the developers to make illogical patches in favor of e-Sports instead of the general public that actually make them their money, THAT is the issue.

          • kyr95

            So youre saying the reason esports is hated is because the patches favor them? ( Not trying to be mean, just trying to understand the general hate for ESports πŸ˜› )

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It’s not just that, at least for me. It’s one of the reasons, but not the straw that broke the camel’s back. Look at BO2. That game’s multiplayer was developed with e-Sports in mind. It brought more headglitches, and more weapons that outclassed others. e-Sports players use the best guns in the game, which makes me question their true “skill”. And, well, e-Sports players are arrogant and misrepresent what the CoD community, no, the GAMING community, is.

          • kyr95

            Ah, i see. SHG though has stated that theyve designed the multiplayer so that both casuals and esports players can enjoy it. Now if it was 3arch or IW i wouldnt be so sure, but were talking about SHG-i mean look at their account on reddit and the way they interact with the fans. They really care for both type of players and im sure they wont dissapoint πŸ˜‰

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I’m hoping that’s the case, but on the SHGames Twitter, they’ve said that multiplayer was built with e-Sports in mind. We’ll see.

          • kyr95

            Im pretty sure somewhere ( dont remember where πŸ˜› ) was stated by Michael that esports will be in the game but they would be implemented in a way that doesnt affect the public players πŸ™‚

          • Hostslayer

            IW didn’t really do shit for E-sports everyone hates the game

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I don’t know what to believe tbh with you, they’re saying a bunch of contradicting things all over the place, at least we have this: http://gamingbolt.com/call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-taking-fan-feedback-to-avoid-ghosts-mistakes#2oTKRFo1fxUcJh6u.99

          • TheShadowReaper

            and that’s the difference between the COD community and any community. i have said this before and its the perfect example. in other games like the example i’m going to use here, League of Legends, competitive play and E-Sports not only is not frowned upon but its encouraged. funny thing is that E-Sports dont affect COD public matches all that much. in LoL whatever change happens to competitive affects public and whatever change happens in public affects competitive. the game is the best it could be cause of that reason. yet COD community cunts like you sillibk, bitch about COD E-Sports when they have no effect on their pub-stomping. but they still find a reason to be morons.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That is why I respect LoL e-Sports more; they play what the general public plays. e-Sports has no effect? You’re an idiot. Simply put. Just an e-Sports fanboy.

            How does it NOT effect public matches, when the patches are influenced by competitive gaming? Think for once.

          • TheShadowReaper

            do you have any weapons or equipment banned on public? or certain maps not allowed either? yeah so much influence.

            i dont even watch E-Sports. i watched 2 matches on the recent MLG but since its console fans playing and watching i believed i was out of place so i didnt continued.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Hmm. Yeah, the gun patches got a little out of hand in BO2. There were so many. Some were necessary, but others ruined some of my favorite guns. As long as SH doesn’t do that, I’m fine. But I want the maps to be more orderly than random.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It’s not even that, some of the patches were either illogical, or barely did anything. They BUFFED the LMGs. Why? The Remington caught ONE nerf, why couldn’t it be balanced? 3arc didn’t know what they were doing.

            I’d rather the maps be random simply because you can play them all and experience them all, and adapt to your playstyle.

          • iβ™₯COD

            Or you could get better at COD and enjoy league play.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It’s not about “getting better”, it’s about a correct balance. League Play is only fun when you’re playing with friends. But it’s still not public matches.

            Stop excusing e-Sports and think for once, fanboy.

          • Hostslayer

            Call of duty at X-games had 130k veiwers

          • Hostslayer

            This is not true 95% is not causal not even 70%
            Casual- relaxed or unconcerned
            Most of these “casual” players are just wannabe pubstompers
            Then there are snipers who took over until Bo2 really
            and lastly E-sport players.
            20% Esport
            20% Snipers
            30% Pubstomper
            40% Casuals
            And guess what casuals don’t care about the game as long as it kinda has that CoD feel they will buy it.

          • Iβ™₯COD

            ruin the game!? it saved BO2! its what people are still playing now, league play!

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            League Play has significantly less players than public matches, which implies that it’s not popular.

        • iβ™₯COD

          Ive played COD since COD4 and the introduction of league play in BO2 was just what was needed! bashing noobs in public lobbies had got so boring!!!!

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Then that’s you. League Play and Public Matches should be separate.

          • TheShadowReaper

            its already separate. what’s wrong with you guys going ham over something that you wont even play ever? it doesnt affect your public matches so stfu about it.

    • cRi7iCaL

      And why shouldn’t it? Name one good reason. The stupid argument that casuals are the “majority” isn’t true, because they are just the majority if you call them non-eSports-players. The competitive community is the biggest sub-community that shares the same ideals how Call of Duty should play. There are so many casual sub-communities that don’t even know what they want.
      So what speaks against an eSports-Orientation?

  • Ed

    wow. i’m in the majority for only one of those questions, so far. i guess i’m out of touch.

  • HenryDF

    I don’t get all the eSports love – CoD needs to be fun, not all based around what the pros want.

    And also, I know people are pissed with all the IW customisation packs, but do they do any harm? No. Can they be fun to have? Yes.

    What is actually wrong with those customisation packs?

    • Indeed. Those little DLCs keep the game fresh, at least for me they do. Especially those cool squad packs, like the Extinction and Resistance ones πŸ™‚

  • bellissimo

    eSports need to be in COD experience because there are pros (less than commons users) or people who like clan experience, but, in any case, there much more “amusement/fun” gamers or noobs who love to do nooby things (me), so if SHG wants the biggest part of the market, the biggest part of the experience need to be funny, as usual.

    COD for me is just something I like to pass my time with friends laughing, it isn’t a job or my real life…

  • I dont want AW based around eSports palyers, but I would like there to be a league play sort of thing. To separated the competitive players from the casual players.

  • kyr95

    Sledgehammer has already stated in one of the interviews at E3 ( dont remember which one ) that theyve designed multiplayer so that both the casual and the esport players can enjoy it. So no problem here.

    • LovekillerX

      So everyone will be pleased. Hopefully. When we should expect more information about multiplayer? I think that we hear something at Gamescom but I can’t be sure.

      It is nice to see that so many from voters are buying a PS4 version of Advanced Warfare. I don’t know if it will change but right now PS4 has most votes.

      Just asking which platform you are choosing kyr95? πŸ™‚

      • kyr95

        Pc. No hate towards other consoles its just how im used play for years πŸ™‚
        And yeah the MP info will propably arrive at Gamescom πŸ˜‰

        • LovekillerX

          On PC this game will look great. Just imagine if this far footage have been taken straight from Xbox One. You are lucky guy. But in general there won’t be so big difference between PS4 and PC. Of course it can be noticed but still.

          Gamescom isn’t far away. Is it on August?

          • kyr95

            Yep, August πŸ˜€ And yeah to me theres not much difference between the consoles concerning the resolution etc.

          • LovekillerX

            You’re right. Many PC players scream around how PC is masterrace and stuff like that. But the truth is that everyone can play any version they want. I pick PS4, you pick PC and someone picks Xbox One for example. Experience will still be the same.

            Can’t wait to know more about singleplayer. Dat Kevin Spacey. ._.

            Imagine if Kevin Spacey would talk in multiplayer. Like “losing C!” That would be epic! πŸ˜€

          • kyr95

            Lol “Dat Kevin Spacey” haha
            Oh yeah! Imagine hearing in Multiplayer! πŸ˜€

          • LovekillerX

            I’m sold just because of that haha! πŸ˜€ Okay maybe not but I’m going to preorder this game as soon as possible.

          • kyr95

            Haha and get the special Kevin Spacey ATLAS Camo!

          • LovekillerX

            Wow is there special Kevin Spacey ATLAS camo? Where? :O

          • kyr95

            Haha i wish πŸ˜›

          • LovekillerX

            It would be nice if there would be one! But we will see later. πŸ™‚

  • This is probably the most important one on here. It shows it has a place but not in public match. As big of an esports fan as I am, I do believe they should be separated.

    • Freeze

      I think they should make a modified version of the game specifically for eSports teams. That would allow MP to lots of innovation while the pros get their basic, limited game.

      • That seems like it would be costly

        • Freeze

          They would just strip down all the things that are not allowed in competitive.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            How about they play the FULL game in e-Sports and stop complaining?

          • Like Black Ops 2?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Actually, they still played 10% of what BO2 actually was. LMGs were banned. Target Finders were banned. They only used a few of the maps.

          • That’s probably because those two things are bs

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Which is why e-Sports is a joke, if the games were so good and if e-Sports guys are so good, then why can’t they go up against the worst things in the game?

          • That’s actually a positive of e-sports. it takes out the bullshit in public match. such as ieds, target finders, noobtubes, etc… though I dont agree with everything they ban I will say they have the right idea in some cases in making COD better.

          • Freeze

            I agree completely. But they never would stop complaining. Like they aren’t any better until they deal with the stuff we deal with in pubs.

          • Still though. Printing twice as many disc’s is costly

          • Freeze

            Well they could provide a free download to pros? No disc needed.

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      Agreed.

    • kplem

      its currently at 55% no and 45 % yes GOOD fuck esports

    • TheShadowReaper

      E-Sports and competitive has been seperated since BO2 just perfectly. what is the problem with public idiots bickering about competitive play when they wont even run into it ever? *sign*

  • PC only 10% damn…

    • 10% :

      • Freeze

        This is just the charlieintel community, and from the comments there are a lot of console players. I wish i could play on a PC.

        • Wraith

          But it’s still true. 10% seems about right when comparing playerbases from previous CoDs. When people used to actually play CoD unlike now when Ghosts on PC broke everything, it hovered at around maybe 30k players on the latest CoD on PC. That was against 300-400k total on PS and Xbox. Then there’s WiiU and stuff.

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      COD usually has pretty bad PC ports and there’s a small community on there. Most other games, PC would be better, but not really COD imo. It’s primarily a console game.

      • Trizay

        Well they’re bad for IW ports. What I’ve heard from friends is that Treyarch titles are typically superior on PC compared to console.

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          I’ve never heard that, but okay.

          • TheShadowReaper

            you did, i told you several times but you opted not to listen or give a damn.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Yeah, I meant I didn’t hear it from people who aren’t elitists. My bad.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i’m a man of truth and facts. your people call me an elitist.

            also, most of people i talk to are elitists of their own preferred systems so…yeah. you just made yourself look like ass imo.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Most of my friends are not elitists and can make opinions based off of facts. You support PC no matter what and think it’s superior in all aspects. Because of that, you think you’re superior than others, and when “my people” call you out on it, you get defensive. You’re biased so I can’t consider your argument seriously when you say Treyarch games are better on PC than consoles. Especially when I remember everyone complaining about how Treyarch kept shitting on PC and people were upset about it.

          • TheShadowReaper

            well first, you have no real evidence about that. i dont even know if you have any friends. but seeing how you lick the back of your PS4 or XB1 you probably do.

            and as for Treyarch titles on PC, have you played them on PC? these are some of the best PC ports i’ve played. and i am many years on PC gaming mind you.

            i’ve said this many times. i’m not superior to anybody, i have the superior experience. i get more out of my money and my five senses than you people do on consoles when it comes to games. why dont you? that’s my point.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Dude, everyone knows that consoles are the way to go for COD. That’s just how it is. Treyarch has the best PC ports you’ve played? You must not play many PC games, there are tons of ports better than COD. There’s a reason COD has such a low population on PC. They don’t get as much support on consoles. I have not played them on PC because everyone and their mothers know that COD has a bigger population and gets more support on PC. You have the superior experience on many games on PC over consoles. Yes, I agree. But on COD? No. I’ve proven to you multiple times that you get better deals on consoles. Like I’ve told you before, I have a PC for RPG, singleplayer, or graphically demanding/astounding games, and I have a console for exclusives and COD, and maybe a few casuals here and there. But I’m not blind enough to say COD is better on PC. The aiming and graphics, yes. But the playing experience overall is worse on PC.

          • TheShadowReaper

            any multiplatform game is better on PC. these “there are tons of better ports than COD” or “consoles are the way to go for COD” are just bullshit console peasant rants. there is no game that a console runs that PC cant run it better, including COD. you have more people playing COD on consoles, no shit sherlock! any multiplat game has more people playing it on consoles. but that doesnt mean the experience is better on consoles just because more people play on it. its like saying that the Atlantic ocean is better than the Mediterranean sea because it has more fish! no shit man! the Atlantic is bigger, its obvious that it has more fish! but the Mediterranean sea is more beautiful cause of its Islands and variety of fish it has. the same case as the consoles and PC. the Atlantic being the consoles and the Mediterranean being the PC.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            GTA4 and SR2 were multiplats. Were they better on PC? No. The reason it’s better with more people is because there’s a larger variety of lobbies you can find. It’s like going fishing in a lake with very little fish or go to the lake next door with tons of fish. The unpopulated lake might look better, but the populated one will give you a better fishing experience.

          • TheShadowReaper

            a few exceptions wont cut the mustard for me. not enough of an excuse or a reason. but even when a game such as GTA4 is a sloppy port its still better on the PC. you were still able to play on 1080p on low/medium which was better than anything the XB360 or PS3 could dish out for GTA4 at the time. also one word. MODS. there were tons of mods that made GTA4 significantly better on PC. if a console game runs like shit on day one it will remain like that until last day. but still even without mod support, people on PC always find a way to make a game better. trying doing that on a console…where only limitations are present. not anything to enhance your experience. the pros on PC are so many that i’ll take a sloppy port any day. i’ll just remember not to buy from the company that sold me the sloppy port, simple as that.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Last thread you complained how Rockstar was the worst company because they shit on PC, and now you’re saying it was better than consoles? Lol okay.

          • TheShadowReaper

            uhhm…you dont understand something here which i explained in my previous post. no multiplat is better on consoles. even with a sloppy port. i didnt say i suddenly like Rockstar. i hate them and their guts. but the game is still played better on PC because guess what! its a PC! you just try to twist my words. usual console peasant strategy. a true classic.

            why dont you take a look to a guy that was strong on consoles until recently but has changed his mind. go around the 8th minute and see for yourself. the only downside to PC gaming is sloppy ports, but even when that happens the game is still better than the console version AND you need to get technical with a PC. unless you’ve been living under a rock i believe you have been using a PC for at least 10 years now. 6 years olds can operate a PC and i believe you can too.

            edit: look at the end of the video too. around the 26th minute.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxvmeVxzw4s

    • But they “Hate it so much!” Remember? xD

      • I hate micro-transactions but Ghosts’ are so bad that I bought all of the BO2 ones!

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          Genius.

          • Thanks, DAD.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Lol here’s $20 so you can buy the Ghosts ones even though you don’t play Ghosts. Oh wait, that’s not enough since there’s like 50+.

          • rekt.

    • As it stands, there are over $110 dollars worth of CoD Horse Armor for Ghosts. The weapon/character skins, the voice over packs, etc. It can only get worse with Advanced Warfare.

      That 53 percent need their goddamned heads examined, because Activision is just laughing their way to the bank with that idiocy.

      • May GabeN forgive them.

      • Hatcher_J

        I agree it can get annoying with so many weapon packs and camos but we know activision will make their money somewhere. I would rather them charge the idiots that continue to purchase the micro transactions that does nothing to improve their skill and maybe in return activision won’t balloon the price of the map packs that I do want. Hopefully the idiots satisfy the thirst of activision for the good of us all, HOPFULLY…

        • That’s almost too optimistic a view concerning Activision. If they weren’t keen to get their sixty bucks a copy for the base retail beta each year, I have no doubt they’d love to shuttle this series in a free-to-play/pay-to-win nightmare.

          I just find it funny. Oblivion caught shit so many years ago for the infamous Horse Armor. “Who would pay money for just something cosmetic? It’s stupid!” so many chanted.

          Yet, eight years later, here we are.

          • Jamie McDonald

            So much crap to buy you would think Ghosts was a free to play shooter!

    • Daniel Michels

      bro, buy who wants

      • lol wut

      • We need an underage Esports foreign interpreter immediately. Only $2.99 to download. Comes with a free weapon camo.

        • Comes with a free weapon camo if you pay an extra $1.99!

          • But it’s not included with the 50 dollar season pass. D’oh!

    • Zarky

      Whats the problem? No one is forcing you to buy them.

      • Because it’s not fun playing a game where you know that you have an option where you have to pay dozens of Dollars just to get 10 more maps and a few colors for your guns.
        If you want DLC done right, look at FC3 Blood Dragon.

        • kyle

          GTAV dlc, its been free since launch πŸ˜€

          • Seven

            It would be cool to have it back, but infinity ward went crazy with it and I don’t trust them anymore.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Because of Shark Cards. It costs a lot of in-game money to buy everything in the DLC, and with them cracking down on the money glitches, many people go straight to shark cards. Especially to buy limited edition items like the Roosevelt and the Liberator (Or whatever the monster truck is called).

          • Grenada!

            The reason most of the vehicles are pricey is so that R* can get rid of some of that glitch money out there. If they wanted you to buy Shark Cards which shouldn’t be in the game anyway, they would make everything like 1million dollars.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Have you seen the masks in the DLC? $20,000 each. The clothes and guns are pretty pricey too. Most of the DLC’s had a car that’s sold for about $750,000. To fully upgrade a vehicle it costs about 300k. The only reason DLCs are free is because they’re paid for with shark cards. Be happy that some people are willing to buy it, that way you continue to get free DLC.

          • They also made 1 billion dollars 3 days after launch, they could care less about charging for DLC

          • Batman

            Even if they have made 4 dollars after 3 days from launch, they would still have given us free dlc

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          This isn’t about the maps, it’s about the weapon and suit camos. Nobody is forcing you to buy them and they affect the gameplay in no way at all. Just an optional thing if you really like one of the camos.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            The issue is, is that they cost NO money to make, so they have NO right to charge for them. They’re easy to make, they cost no resources to make, and microtransactions in general are stupid.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            The thing everyone seems to forget is that ATVI is a business. Their goal is to make as much money as possible. When they first tested micro DLC and they sold a lot, why would they release them for free when you can charge for it. If you were in charge, would you give it for free vs. selling it, when you know you’d make tons of money off of selling? No, you’d sell as well.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Microtransactions, however, are the bane of the gaming industry in its current state. If it costs no resources nor any money, then why would I charge for it? If I were in the business, and this is just me, I would only charge if it took a lot of effort and money.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Oh definitely. I hate how everything in modern gaming has micro-DLC. Why? because they know it’d sell. Even better for them that it costs nothing and barely any time to make, that just means more money. It’s like some baker got a batch of bread for free. He would still sell it, it’s just a plus that he didn’t have to take time cooking it or spend money buying it.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That’s like saying you mind it and you’ll let it happen, you are a consumer. Take a stand, don’t let them do this.

            Let’s use plane tickets as an analogy. You paid whatever you needed by just purchasing that ONE plane ticket and that’s what you’re supposed to get, but they also give you the option of buying top-class seats.

            What you pay ($60), should be what you get. No exceptions. Even macrotransactions are a problem, because not even the maps cost a penny to create, they should be free. No Season Pass.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            It’s more like buying a plane ticket, and then you can buy snacks, food, pillows, ear phones, and other luxuries to improve your personal experience, which is what panes do, and what COD does. I payed for the plane ticket, but I can also buy optional things if I wish, completely optional. My way of taking a stand is by not buying the micro-DLC. I bought one camo in BO2, the 115 camo, and only because I love zombies and it looked really nice. I don’t support micro-DLC, I just try to look at it as if I was ATVI, and I see why they do the things they do. It’s because most consumers let them.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            The analogy that I made was to show optional things, but it was also to show that it shouldn’t be done in the first place.

            The issue with CoD, is that those options shouldn’t even be there in the first place. Is it cosmetic? Yes, but you can also buy guns on Ghosts that are overpowered, like the Ripper and Maverick.

            The problem is, is that the consumers should STOP buying them, so ATVI doesn’t allow the developers to MAKE them. Saying “it’s a business” is nothing more but an excuse.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            You would rather have no camo options at all than having camo options that you can pay for? Why? There’s no point in that. The gun DLC, yes, I don’t agree with that. It’s becoming pay to win. I’m not making excuses, I’m looking at ATVI side of it. Like I said, I don’t buy the camos, but I’m fine with those options being there just in case I really like one, especially since it doesn’t affect my game if i don’t own them. BTW good luck trying to convince consumers to not buy them. Most are children who borrow their parents money, so they don’t care. They buy it just to have it, even if they don’t really like it or barely use it.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I would rather have FREE camos or nothing at all, yes. Camos should be shipped with the game.

            I know who buys the camos, and it really sucks. It’s a pretty big issue. If ATVI does it, then it’ll influence other developers/publishers to do it, too, and THAT is what sucks about it.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            It’s already begun. This is the era of DLC. πŸ™

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            And that era needs to change, it’s a definite issue.

          • Mr Doge

            You seriously have issues so Im gonna try and take what SiftBlade said and put it more simply. THEY ARE NOT REPEAT NOT FORCING YOU TO BUY IT! IT IS COMPLETELY OPTIONAL AND DOES NOT CHANGE THE GAME. IF YOU SERIOUSLY DONT LIKE SIGN A PETITION AND SEND IT IN TO ACTIVISION AND SEE IF THEY GIVE A SHIT. WHY THE HELL ARE YOU COMPLAINING WHEN YOU PROBABLY BOUGHT THE SEASON PASS. SERIOUSLY WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE OPTION OF BUYING A CAMO?! ALL YOU DO IS BITCH ABOUT IT ON A WEBSITE INSTEAD OF DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. ALSO IT DOES TAKE MONEY TO MAKE WHO DO YOU THINK PAYS FOR THE EQUIPMENT AND THE TRAINING THEY HAD WITH GRAPHICS DESIGN?! JESUS? NO HE DIDNT THEY HAD TO PAY SO STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT AND START TO SEE IT FROM A BUSINESS SIDE OF VIEW. THEY HAVE THEY’RE OWN FAMILIES TO FEED! AND DONT LIE SAYING YOU WOULDNT DO IT BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE THE OPTION AND YOU LOSE NOTHING YOU WOULD TAKE IT! IM SICK OF PEOPLE THAT BITCH ABOUT SOMETHING THEY HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT. ATLEAST SIFTBLADE DOESNT GIVE A SHIT BUT YOU PICK ON HIM FOR HAVING AN OPINION? YOUR THE REASON COD TURNED TO SHIT.

          • jordanxbrookes

            *Slowly Claps* Well said Doge, well said.

          • Mr Doge

            Yeah thanks people dont realise that they are basically taking peoples freedom and shiting on it.

          • honky

            there should never be gun dlc ever i bought a game not got a free pay to win game jackass

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            God damn, doge.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Someone sounds mad. Quit being an ignoramus, and quit being such a corporate sheep. You’re literally excusing what Activision is doing. CoD turned to shit because of fucking idiots like YOU.

          • Mr Doge

            Haha no I was only talking in caps to get your attention. But why are you so greedy for DLC? If you bought CoD 4 when it first came out and the same with Ghosts, you bought both for the same price. However Ghosts came with a bunch more stuff. So if you want to be sticking up by your opinion that Activision is ripping us off, wouldn’t you be saying CoD 4 WAS overpriced?

          • No Micro TRANSFREAKING ACTIONS

            so you are saying that it’s okey if, for example, a supermarket sells milk for $2 and you’ll need to buy the cap seperately for $0.50.

          • I’m sorry, but that was retarded.. You’re analogy is completely off, and compares to an EA game. An Activision game, is like buying a car, say $25k. You get the whole package to make it run properly, and nothing more. Any mods you want to install are up to you. And what everyone is bitching about is how spoiled they are and how ATVI won’t have whiny overly pampered children walk over them. Here’s the gist of what everyone is saying: “Hey! I bought the car, so why the hell is the neon interiors, gold plated rims, and 2 sub speaker system not free?! Are you trying to take me for everything?!”.

          • honky

            the mods arent up to me they TOOK THAT AWAY IDIOT AND CHARGE ME A VATLY WATERED DOWN VERSION

            WHEN IT TAKES MORE EFFORT TO REMOVE IT

          • Grenada!

            You are wrong. They are adding in guns as their shitty micro-DLC thing now and that will change the game. What if the micro-DLC guns are OP and the best out there? Then that my friends is a pay-to-win game an it will change the gameplay very much. You are the people who support this crap and are going to cause the death of gaming.

          • Mr Doge

            Are you kidding me? Do you know ANYTHING about Ghosts? Oh wait you probably don’t because the Internet has poisoned your minds to make you hate so you seem cool. Well lemme tell you. THE GUNS ARE NOT OP. They LITERALLY just took the DLC guns and are selling them. Yes Im not going to lie thats the only time when Im mildly pissed off for them taking DLC guns and putting them as Micro-DLC but then again, Ive use these guns and they are NOT OP. Now that I think about it, it’s not that bad they added it for people who don’t have enough money to buy the full DLC and just wanna get the gun.

          • MichiganerE

            You’ve already payed $60.00 for a game, and you’re okay with paying $100.00 more to slap camos on your gun? Consumers like you is what’s wrong with the gaming industry.

          • MrLynx

            wait all my friends on my friends list are all above the age of 18 or close and they buy DLC when they can.

          • Grenada!

            The fact that you are supporting micro-DLC just says it all.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            I’m not supporting it. I don’t buy it, therefore I don’t support it. But I’m not ignorant enough to believe that they’re going to start giving it for free because some people don’t like the idea of paying for them.

          • Batman

            Rockstar gives free dlc with new maps, veichles, weapons and clothes for free every month in gta online, why cant atvi do it?

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Because GTA’s DLCs are paid for with shark cards. BTW they don’t have new maps.

          • Grenada!

            They do have new TDM and Race maps etc. Also new missions with their free DLCs. And I think the shark cards shouldn’t be in the game because it creates that pay-to-win problem.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Rockstar already said their economy has been ruined beyond repair. I think it was on twitter. It’s not really pay to win, unless you’re looking at races. Most people just sit in open/private lobbies. Shark cards are pretty bad imo. They’re the reason all of the missions keep getting patched to pay lower when completed. That way you don’t earn money fast enough and have to buy shark cards, especially with limited time DLC. On the plus side, it means the DLCs are free.

          • TheShadowReaper

            this is the usual bullshit excuse i see about something wrong when the one that agrees with the bullshit is put into a corner ready to tap out. ATVI is a business and if they want to keep their business they should change their policies to what their customers want. not us changing our ways to what ATVI wants to sell us. if they want our money they should behave like it. that applies to any publisher out there.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Um, they’e not going to lose their business by selling micro-DLC. They gain business by selling it. People buy it. Why would they stop? They’re not going to stop gaining millions of dollars of micro-DLC because some people don’t like it. From a business standpoint, it makes no sense.

          • TheShadowReaper

            and from a consumer standpoint it also makes no sense for you and any other jackass to keep buying them. but stupid is stupid. too bad i cant help you with that.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            I’ve said so many times that I don’t buy them.

          • blbsnipe

            So you are saying that all people who want to buy camos are stupid? The fact of the matter is we may not like that they aren’t free but if we want a camo then we buy it, plain and simple because the developers and Activision are not going to make them free all of a sudden. At least these camos are cheap, unlike skins in a game like League of Legends which can cost anywhere for $5 to $30.

          • TheShadowReaper

            did this really happen…did you really compared a gun camo, a gun re-paint to a LoL skin? a LoL skin, which most of them are entire remodels. yeah, i was right to call you stupid.

          • blbsnipe

            Yes its a remodel, but the cheapest skins in League don’t change particle effects or sounds or the taunt/dance/joke/laugh. So in essence the cheapest LoL skins are character re-paints. Now without insulting me just hear me out as I’ve been trying to get what you are saying. When they first decided to make the micro-dlc camos, in Black Ops 2, odds are they were testing out a new idea. They didn’t purposefully remove them or neglect to add them to the game. And they are relatively cheap, at $2 each to give the players the option to buy them IF they would like to, same as the skins in LoL, at a much lower price. Albeit a much more static skin as well. Should they have given some out free? Sure. But they do use these to obtain a new cash flow as they are a business. Personally I don’t agree with them, but I also I don’t see a point in complaining in them. Thank you for reading my explanation, and hopefully you will shed some light on what you thought of it, I am interested in your opinion.

            I also realize that that could sound quite sarcastic but I mean it in the most sincere way.

          • TheShadowReaper

            ofc they do! their 1350RP, 1850RP and 3250RP skins are entire remodels with new voice overs, dance, laughs and everything. moron.

          • blbsnipe

            *sigh* Like I said their CHEAPEST skins as in 975RP,or more specifically 750RP and under, don’t change any extra effects and are simply re skins, with the 750RP and under skins not even changing particles. I did take into a count that a lot of the available skins do add new voices, dance, laugh, joke, and taunt, But those are the over 975 skins. Maybe before responding to someone with the toxicity that the CoD community is known for read the comment thoroughly. I play League frequently and have been gifted and purchased many skins so I do know what I talking about, and I’m hoping with that small misunderstanding out of the way there won’t be any need for toxicity.

          • Wiz

            I would put pleasing the customers first before making money if i were head of activision because if the customers arent happy, then they wont purchase my products and if i were pricing the micro DLC, i would look at it from a customers point of view and decide from there (under a dollar)

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Yeah but people ARE purchasing the products. That’s the problem.

          • honky

            ETHICS YOU FUCKWAD

            i bought a package that comes with those now i am given an incomplete package for the price of a complete package and charged for the rest of the package

            get less stupid you really need it

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            So you’d be willing to lose millions of dollars due to ethics if you were head of IW or Activision? No, you’d sell it as well.

          • honky

            many people each year commit suicide because of their shitty lives. by your logic, you should to

            idiot so stupid

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            “Insults are the arguments employed by those who are in the wrong.” Jean-Jacques Rousseau

            By the way, you call me an idiot and say I’m stupid, yet you can’t form proper sentences. Oh, the irony.

          • So someone who is working to design and map these camos on to gun doesn’t take time. Because time is money. It cost money to make.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It didn’t cost a dime, you can’t say otherwise. It takes no effort, either. Saying otherwise is a lie.

          • If you are serious you are in for a reality check in your near future. EVERYTHING costs money to do, no matter how insignificant it looks. It might not be much but the person who designed and mapped to camo to the gun was paid money for putting his/her time and effort into doing it. Then they have to patch it into the game. On Xbox alone, it costs money to push out patches. So yes, it does cost money to make, yes it does take effort. And that’s not mentioning the reticles and the patches and backgrounds that come with that camo. Believe what you want to believe but we do live in a society where everything costs money.

          • Just give up on sillibk

          • Yeah, I just read his other comments, he doesn’t understand how the world works

          • Hostslayer

            E-Sports!

          • honky

            except we already paid for it

          • You paid for it? Where on the box does it say, ALL FUTURE MICRO DLC WILL BE YOURS UPON PURCHASE. Where in the marketing did they say that? You bought a Call of Duty game that was no different from the one last year but you want free stuff. Its $3 dude. So not expensive
            And if you say, “but it adds up” just know that shouldn’t matter. Did you cry when you forked over the money for your conole/PC? Did you cry when you forked over the money for Ghosts? Because that’s the vibe I’m getting from and everyone else who is against it.

          • honky

            i want what i got the last year instead i got some of last year and the rest sold to me again not good it is a full game should be a full package not that hard to understand you ape

          • You got what you got last year. Same amount of maps, same amount of guns, same amount of camos. The rest was made post launch and made to sell. Did you hear about this super awesome way of getting those new camos? Its simple…. YOU BUY IT AND STFU. Oh, what that? You don’t want to, then still, STFU. I’m tried of hearing little bitches like you who are too cheap to put 2 bucks down for a camo. Don’t like it? Don’t buy it. That’s why its called this wonderful thing called OPTIONAL. You bought a complete game. They made DLC. Get over it. Still don’t like it? How about not play the game? Don’t want to do that but still complain about a camo pack? Well there is this wonderful thing called DON’T BUY IT THEN.
            The only retards here are the ones like you who can’t comprehend that you are entitled to nothing, much less DLC. Don’t like it, don’t buy it.

          • Grenada!

            I could create my own Camo for CoD4 with the mods in like 1 minute and it doesn’t cost me a dime. So it certainly won’t cost Activision a dime.

          • Did you not read my comment. ITS THEIR JOB TO MAKE THE CAMO. They are paid, so it costs them money.
            I could also create a FPS game and it wouldn’t cost me a dime, does that mean that IW doesn’t get paid?
            No. The patch for Xbox alone costs about $1,000.

          • What you are saying is that Activison doesn’t pay their employees.
            1) That’s illegal
            2) They wouldn’t work there if they weren’t getting paid
            3) They patch into the game so they pay for the patch
            4) I can make a game and it wouldn’t cost me a dime. Does that mean that making a Call of Duty game doesn’t cost a dime too?
            Like I said, EVERYTHING costs money. The sooner you realize that, the better off you’ll be.

          • Mr Doge

            Finally someone with a point of view like me. People don’t realize that the littlest things cost money. Patching one little thing takes money because they have to consult Xbox and Playstation to push the update out and that takes time. This is why Internet arguments start because people start stating things which they have NO IDEA over because they read it on an article with 0 references.

          • I could create my own game using CryEngine and it wouldn’t cost me a dime. Does that mean CoD doesn’t cost any money to make? If you’re answer is yes, then you don’t understand how the world works.

          • Mr Doge

            Thats because its put on screen through your textures. No one else would see that camo besides you. The DLC camos are server based so everyone would see them. Idiot doesnt even know what he’s talking about.

          • blbsnipe

            They have a team to design them, which is not needed for the MS paint quality camos in Ghosts, which is what they use to justify the cost. “We have to pay the graphic design teams somehow”- Some Activision/Treyarch/Infinity Ward official 2014

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            They don’t even cost them a cent. :/ Activision makes billions of dollars a year. You’d think they’d learn.

          • Employee salary, it has to be placed and made for every gun in the game.

          • Wiz

            I wouldn’t go that far, it costs money to make camos (electricity, programs, wages, patch fees) but they should be under a dollar or even free ocasionally.

          • MrLynx

            ummm maybe its called business. doesnt Nike make their shoes super cheap but still sells them super expensive

          • But still, it’s disgusting to see everything time you log that for $15 you get 5 maps.

          • TheShadowReaper

            we have talked about this and this shit has to stop. COD are full priced games at 60 euros (or you currency equivalent) and it should have all those as unlockables for NO additional cost. enough with these “squeeze as much coins as you can from the consumer” bullshit. enough. some people think its ok because its a choice for you to buy them or not but it doesnt work that way cause you already have payed 60 euros to get the game. its not a free to play game, its a full priced release. this is inexcusable SiftBlade and you shouldnt support it.

          • honky

            you are a very smart individual. i like you

            also remember this used to be free via modding form once. it actually costs them money to remove this function from me and charge it back to me. now i get banned for putting my own camos in the game. horrible. this poll showed how dumb the cod community is no wonder its so looked down on.

          • TheShadowReaper

            thank you. even though most of them in here dont realize, its good to see a reasonable person like you once in a while.

            its sad but it is what it is. thats the bullshit i’m talking about and when i do i’m called a PC elitist. these should be mods or already in the game for the initial price.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            I’m not supporting it. Did you read the convo I had below with sillibk?

          • MichiganerE

            THANK YOU!

          • But it doesn’t affect anyone and no one is putting a gun up to your head to buy them. If you really like the game, you probably wouldn’t mind dropped an extra 2 bucks for a brand new camo or skin.

          • TheShadowReaper

            so you’re okay with games being ripped apart in pieces so you can drop more money than you should have to? brainless.

          • So cosmetic micro DLC is ripping apart a game? Not all games are as good as Call of Duty’s micro DLC but if its purley cosmetic and doesn’t change the gameplay, then there is nothing wrong with it. But to say that it is ripping the game apart? No. When you paid for your game, you got the default camos, something that was built into the price. So why should these other camos be free when the first ones were not. You didn’t own those camos until you owned Ghosts. The real problem with this whole debocle is that people can get it through their head that micro DLC just an option for those who don’t like the default camos or just too lazy to do the challenges for the default ones. How is that in anyway bad and ripping the game apart? You got camos when you bought the game, don’t bitch just because there is new camos you can’t have unless you drop a few bucks.
            If you want to say micro DLC is ripping a game apart, it should be towards Battlefield where micro DLC allows you to skip through earning guns that are in game already, but CoD is just adding skins to soldiers and guns.

            TL;DR No one is forcing you buy them, it isn’t pay to win, so stop bitching.

          • TheShadowReaper

            yes it is ripping the game apart you fucking imbecile. cause if more effort was put into the game in the first place you wouldnt have seen half of them being sold to you as micro-DLC. you would own them in the first place.

          • WTF does graphic design have to do with gameplay mechanics? And you call me an imbecile? The only people actually working on them are graphic designers, and maybe 1 or 2 people to map the camos and skins onto the models. At tops 10 people work on it. IW has about 125 people working there. That’s more than enough to still have a solid game. Do I really care that weed camo wasn’t in my base game? Fuck no. Why? Because it literally changes nothing in the game other than the skin on my gun. If out of all the thing Ghosts did wrong and your pissed about the micro DLC, you are the imbecile. Its not ripping the game apart.
            I’m going to type this again. ITS JUST A SKIN ON YOUR GUN/SOLIDER. If you are seriously pissed at that, you are in that giant group of idiots in society.

          • TheShadowReaper

            when did i say anything about gameplay mechanics? check your eyes plz.

            its content ripped off of the game to be sold separately. do i care about a weed camo? i’m supposed to be owning the damn thing in the first place, not to give extra money for it. stupid will remain stupid. you dont get the concept, you drag all of us along the way down to hell. fuck stupid. if only there was a cure for you guys.

          • Fuck stupid? You said and I quote, “…it is ripping the game apart…” When you say that. You are talking about EVERYTHING in the game.
            What I got from your recent comment is that you want the camo but you can’t spit the money out for it. The stupidity here is coming from you. You are seriously pissed that they sell you cosmetic changes. But TTK?Nah. Poor PC port? Nah. Horrible maps? Nah. But as soon as you hear Mirco DLC, you are flipping tables.
            Please, take a step back and think about what you are pissed about. You are pissed off that they are selling you camos in a game that you probably won’t play again after the next one comes out.
            Like I said in my last reply, you are the a part of the idiots in society who misses the big picture. Its cosmetic. Changes nothing in the game other than the skin on a model. That’s what you are mad about. Please rethink your life.

          • TheShadowReaper

            so you’re going to nitpick parts of the game? isnt the camos and personalization packs part of the game? yes they are. so they literally rip the game apart to sell to you later. just another stupid moron that supports bullshit practices. no wonder gaming has gotten where it is now. and with idiots like you its only going to get worse.

          • yes, but they don’t change anything about the game. You are more worried about cosmetics than the game. Again, rethink your life. You are pissed that you don’t have all the camos. I’m sitting here worrying that the game is actually good.

          • TheShadowReaper

            you have to worry about everything. not just “if the game is good” or not. you have to understand that anti-consumer practices should not and will not be tolerated. unless you are an idiot like you. your kind doesnt have enough brain cells to think about these matters. all you can do is think “if the game is good or not”.

          • It’s a camo. If I don’t want it, I don’t buy it and don’t give a fuck about it. How exactly is this anti consumer? They never promised that the season pass will give you access to all DLC and they don’t make it pay to win. You are sitting here giving me weak arguments and then insulting my intelligence. Please, look at what you are arguing. You are pissed that you are being sold camos, not that the game is bad or broken. You are looking at something that, again, has no effect on gameplay, and getting pissed about it. Where is this kind of fire against games like BF where their Micro DLC allows you to skip hours of grinding for in game weapons. In CoD, you are buying a skin that its completely up to the consumer that its worth to buy.
            If you can’t present me a good reason why CoD’s mirco DLC is bad, then just stop replying. Rethink your life. Why can’t you use that fire to go against needless war, or bullshit laws in your country (if your country allows for such a thing, of course.) Instead you are using that passion to be pissed at something that has no effect on anyone.

          • TheShadowReaper

            how exactly is a micro-DLC ok when you have given already 60 bucks/euros? you have already payed for the game. this isnt a free to play game in case you forgot. its a full priced release. that’s the best definition of “milking” a game. and they do it with micro-DLC. i dont care if you want to buy them or not or if you think its ok or not. you should own them already! all of them! cause you have payed for the game already! that’s the strongest argument and all you have to say about that is “you dont have to buy it! its optional!”. weakest argument ever. you’re full of bullshit, that’s all you are. bullshit.

          • I was never promised that I would have all content upon purchase. NEVER. My season pass, no where does it say, “…And Micro DLC too!” If this is your strongest argument, we are done here. This is another weak argument. If I was promised to all have camos on disk day one, then its different, but I wasn’t. So at that point its completely up to the consumer to purchase it. Its not changing the game. Its not breaking the game. Its simply selling people new camos in case they were sick of the old ones or just didn’t like them. So why should I own content that was most likely made post launch and they have to drop a few thousand dollars to even make available and that’s not mention the people who were paid to make, map and code into the game. Why should they operate at loss so you can get free camos post launch. People want camos, Activision gives it to them but you can’t expect to be free. No company that is smart will operate at a loss. If they were selling god mode instead of camos, then I would be on your side but they are just selling camos. Skins.
            And even after I compliment you for your passion, you still insult me. Trust me, I’m not perfect but if you can just get your head out your ass and see that none of your arguments hold any weight, maybe you will understand that a company being a company isn’t the end of the world.
            So I am going to repeat myself, unless you have a strong, valid point that disproves me, then we are done here.

            By the way, when you are trying to win a argument, try insulting less, and actually giving out strong, valid points. Every reply you have if some half thought out argument and then an insult.

          • TheShadowReaper

            and that’s where your stupidity is shining. its not micro DLC, its original game content stripped off of the game. entire point is false. such stupid, not much wow.

          • Basically what you are telling me that when I buy a controller (Ghosts), I should expect kontrol freaks and the Scuf upgrade, charge and play pack, etc. (any DLC in general) for free? What exactly is any different from this game that you are not getting in previous CoDs? Its about the same amount of maps, guns, camos, attachments, etc. Nothing is ripped from the game.
            If it is ripped from the game, how exactly did Infinity Ward know what changes we wanted map wise and camo wise if the DLC was made prelaunch. Your logic isn’t following here. If your next reply is as nonsensical as this one was, I’m not replying back. I’m done entertaining a mentally challenged fuckboy who thinks that anyone who doesn’t agree with him is an idiot.

          • TheShadowReaper

            how can someone be SO stupid as to mess up 1st party with 3rd party stuff? is scuff part of MS? NO! you fucking imbecile pig. you wouldnt be able to think straight if your life’s depended on it.

          • Trig

            well if i bought a controller i should get a free mic.. buy a console get a free game.. buy the xbox one get a free kinect… get free rechargeble battery station if i bought a rechargeble battery pack

          • Yres

            This one heated argument…

            GO SHADOW REAPER

          • Mini

            You need to chill the fu/ck out. It’s pretty funny when you argue what is ok. lmao What a joke.
            The developers are doing it because they obviously can get money from it. If nobody buys it, they will stop making the micro DLCs.
            It’s a fu/cking business practice. I don’t buy the micro dlcs. Probably most cod players don’t buy the dlcs judging by the reported revenue in the past.
            You sure you are not bullshit?

            funny shit right here:

            “you should own them already! all of them! cause you have payed for the game already! that’s the strongest argument and all you have to say about that is “you dont have to buy it! its optional!”.”

            the word “should”. hahahaha
            Are you retarded? There’s no should. Do you not understand economics? wow

          • Trig

            its a business practice not a bullshit practice pay.. or play what they let you have for 60 dollars, its not there fault its sixty dollars thats just how much gamestop and etc will sell it for because ppl will buy it at that price… besides introducing new shit into the games keeps ppl playing and prolongs the life of the game.. i keep playing bo2 because of the zombie and camo dlc

          • Trig

            bro if you want it pay 2 fucking dollars.. me and my friend were talking about how they should add a new skin for the dog and lo and behold we got a wolf me and my friend said if it was us we would sell it for a dollar or so…. ur not entitled to xtra shit just cuz you got the original copy of the game… what do you want all these camos for.. what if they got rid of thm then said if u wnt camos at all you gotta pay.. that would be the only thing that could make you mad

          • Trig

            damn i typed that so bad… anyway dont be butthurt because you want something you dont need and you want it for free too

          • If you want ripping a game apart, come to me when they start charging to unlock on-disc camo’s so you don’t have to do the challenges.

          • TheShadowReaper

            so you wait until we are so deep into that shit? sorry but action needs to be taken now so we dont go that far. if you want to sleep over something like this be my guest, its your choice, your opinion but please, dont drag others along with you. keep that to yourself.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It’s not a matter of opinion, this is fact, people need to quit being so dumb. Their subjectivity is pointless, stupid, and holds absolutely no value. This is why gaming is becoming shit. This is what makes Activision and EA want to do this. Why would anyone excuse this shit? I’m not biased in any particular way, microtransactions are pathetic, no matter what the case may be. I think it’s even a problem in the PS4/PC Indie/FTP market.

          • TheShadowReaper

            its ok for the F2P market cause that’s the only way the devs make money. here we are talking about full priced games. just as you said, people need to wake the fuck up and take their heads out of their assholes. the sooner we get there the better. but at this pace i feel it might be too late when they realize.

          • mmcmm54321

            Ok suppose the only thing they sold was the game no micro dlc or anything else. How would they afford to pay the the tons of people working there plus eventually make a new game.

          • TheShadowReaper

            so you havent noticed how many copies COD sells every year? suddenly they need micro-DLC to pay them? these micro-DLC are there to rip you off and make them extra pocket money with 0 effort.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            So buying the Ripper/Maverick, the two most OP guns on Ghosts, for $4-5 isn’t pay to win? I don’t care if the camos are cosmetic. They don’t cost a PENNY to make. They take little to NO effort. It’s just to make a quick buck. The camos you get in the retailed version, should be what you get. If there aren’t enough camos in the game, then there isn’t enough content to begin with. You are completely missing the point of this entire argument; this is the console age of microtransactions, and it must be stopped. YOU MUST REALIZE, that if Activision does this, then it WILL influence other companies to do the same in order to compete with Call of Duty. It’s stupid and pointless.

          • Wait, they nerfed the Ak-12 and Remington R5? Cause last time I checked, those were the most OP guns in the game. And also, Thousands of people have access to the Ripper and Maverick. It kind of defeats the purpose of Pay to Win when so many people already own it.
            And I said this before and I’ll say it again. People were paid. Money was paid to get the patches. IT COST MONEY TO PRODUCE. And effort? So designing, mapping, coding, that’s not effort? Please. go away. Your logic, like TheShadowReaper is just plain retarded. I’m done with both of you.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You’re the only retarded one here. The fact that you defend what ATVI is doing, is the DEFINITION of retarded.

            Have you not seen the camos? They look like they take literally 5 minutes. You really want more Space Cats and Weed camos? Are you daft? You can essentially buy the Ripper and Maverick instead of buying the DLC, so it IS P2W, that is a FACT. Quit being a fanboy and think logically. You excusing this, forces these pricks to make them even more, and it is a problem. You’re just a CoD fanboy. You’ll learn someday.

          • paying for 2 guns that melt you in a game where everything melts you isn’t pay 2 win. The peacekeeper wasn’t OP either. And yes, have seen the camos. And like I told your inbred brethren, it boils down to whether people want it or not, and according to CI’s survey, people want it. So deal with it Every time I read any of the arguments you make, I leave it having to turn off my brain for a few seconds to understand how retarded you are, so please, go have down syndrome somewhere else.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You are excusing stupid business practices, you nutty buffoon. You are essentially saying “oh it’s okay, let Activision fuck us in the ass no lube”. I understand cosmetic microtransactions on Free-to-Plays, but FULLY RETAILED $60 GAMES LIKE COD? Are you out of your fucking mind? You are a joke. The Peacekeeper wasn’t a gun that you could buy for $5, you got it with a map pack. We are talking about microtransactions, not actual DLC like map packs that come WITH weapons, like on Battlefield, where you get a shitload of weapons per DLC. Don’t migrate to Black Ops 2, I’m talking about GHOSTS, where it has the MOST microtransactions, and it actually has PAY TO WIN ASPECTS. It’s not my fault that stupid people want to get screwed out of money. They’re stupid if they vote for it. I’m the retarded one? Who’s excusing microtransactions on fully priced games? Look, go wear a helmet and sit in a corner, you’re done.

            It’s pretty clear that the cycle of microtransactions will continue with Advanced Warfare, I can tell by Condrey’s tweets. It’s because of stupid people like you, who think that stupid business practices to fuck us of all of our money, that get these people to do this. What a fucking joke.

          • Awwww, what the matter? Daddy’s cock went too far up your ass? Every reply you write is just you complaining about the camos and Ripper and Maverick probably because you want it and you can’t afford it. If you think CoD is pay to win, you think all games with micro DLC is pay to win. Go be a failed abortion somewhere else.

          • TheShadowReaper

            gamers have definitely gotten dumber. you are a living example.

          • Says the guy who is pissed at camos. Please, go eat those bleach cookies your mommy baked just for you.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Probably because you excuse publishers fucking you in your ass.

          • Actually, I’m enjoying my unicorn camo on my Ripper. Bite me.

          • TheShadowReaper

            that sounds a lot to be up your ass. you’ve made quite the accommodations to be able to do just that. stunning. it really is.

          • Hey man, you can bitch at the internet all you want. At the end of the day, I’m the winner.

          • TheShadowReaper

            winner of what? the biggest asshole in the world made by micro-transactions? yeah sure…keep believing you’re a winner.

          • For not wasting my time trying to get rid of something that the survey above proves that people obviously want. So the only one wasting their time is you. Like I said, bitch all you want, its not going anywhere and its not hurting anyone.

          • TheShadowReaper

            and that’s where the convo stops cause its sad to see you saying that it doesnt hurt anyone. it will take time but when you realize it will be too late. it doesnt hurt anyone, it hurts everyone. including you. but since stupid is stupid you’ll have to learn the hard way. stupid always learns the hard. and you’ll drag us along with your stupidity.

          • You are the most melodramatic little fuckboy, you know that? Its camos. Calm down.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You’re stupid and a corporate sheep. Simply put. You are excusing CAMOS, so who is the one getting a cock up their ass? I can’t afford it? Look, you stupid motherfucker, you don’t need to make up every excuse in the book, that just makes you look like even more of a bitch. It’s NOT because I “can’t afford it” you arrogant piece of shit, I just don’t want to pay for shit on things that should be FREE IN THE FUCKING FIRST PLACE. Get the fuck out. I have loads of camos, so saying “HERP DERP YOU CAN’T AFFORD IT” is a stupid assumption.

            CoD wasn’t pay to win until the new F2P CoD in China and Ghosts. The Ripper and Maverick being available for $3-5 IS PAY TO WIN. GET OVER THAT FACT. ACCEPT IT, and quit being a prick. Your sugarcoated arguments won’t get you anywhere. A failed abortion? Someone of your anti-intellectuality would prove that I’m not the “failed abortion” here. Please, for the love of God, try to incorporate at least a MINOR PROPER argument when you try to argue me.

          • I did have proper arguments about 3 days ago. When you used the same argument twice, I decided to start fucking with you. And to be honest, its been great. Your replies are so retarded they show up as examples for the definition of retarded. Like I said days before, CoD isn’t pay to win. Only bitches with no money for DLC think the maverick and ripper are OP. I have them. AK-12, Remington, Vector, Mtar, and Honey Badger all so much better than those 2 weapons. Like I said, you are getting pissed at camos for a game that won’t even be relevant in 5 months. So go ahead, scream at your moniter about it. Because, I’m going to spend that time enjoying my games, not mad because a company wants to be a company, *gasp* the horror. So now that I’m still fucking with you for the lols, go put back on your headgear, you’re slobbering all over the keyboard again.

          • mmcmm54321

            Why are you making such a big deal if someone wants a camo they can go dig $2 out of there couch.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            They have to use credit cards lmao. And the total amount is like $60 for the shit.

          • Trig

            ak12 is better than the maverick and the mtar is better than the ripper.. how do we know play gamebattles and see what they use

          • mmcmm54321

            Don’t cost a penny to make? You do realize they have to hire graphic designers to make the camo and they don’t work cheap.

          • Guest

            It’s an option, you ain’t forced to get them. Like Shiftblade said, it doesn’t affect the gameplay at all. It adds swag to your character and weapons customization to show off in gameplay. You might see it as “squeeze as much coins as you can from the consumer” but in reality, it is not bullshit. Step out of the box and see things from a different perspective. They invest a lot of money making these game and now more than ever that Activision owns 3 different Studios. It takes money to make everything possible in a game from motion capture to music composition and much more. Why? to give a great experience to the CoD fan base, shit ain’t free bruh! Micro transactions was a smart business move in making more profits out of the game. After all they work hard, almost no sleep to give us, the community, an awesome game experience. For that, I support their effort. Can’t wait what they have for weapon camos! It’s all just business bruh, as usual, to sustain a successful company and to keep it’s studios running for future games installments. The gaming industry it’s growing!

          • TheShadowReaper

            you already pay 60 usd/euros to buy a COD game you fucking moron! ofc shit aint free bruh! such mindless idiots in this community and industry, its sickening. wow…cant believe this shit.

          • justchill

            just think it as a fundraiser, that is all.

          • guest

            Lmao you’re just a cheap son of a bitch, that’s it.

          • Sentinel

            Lmfao you really make me laugh thoe. Such insults goes thru one ear and comes out from the other. Me, moron?? Don’t contradict yourself. Can’t even see the big picture here smh. Yeah I paid full price for Advanced Warfare and I’m waiting for the Hardened Edition to be announced to drop more $$ on it but guess what? No matter what you say or do, you still have to pay for DLC content Lmao Yeah, pirated shit don’t work all the time…Stay mad bruh.

          • TheShadowReaper

            what are you talking about imbecile? i dont buy DLC. i rarely buy Treyarch’s DLC and not the micro-transaction ones. moron. i’m not the one that misses anything. i see the whole picture. you cant see in front of your eyes.

          • The Wiener Warrior

            I completely agree with you here. In my experience, i purchased the 200$ collectors edition, came with season pass. I should not only be entitled to map pack dlc but micro transactions. Honest opinion, just get rid of them or include them as unlockables in the game from the start. Very least include them as part of the season pass which for most people is an extra 40-50$ which is almost as much as the game itself.

          • TheShadowReaper

            exactly. they need to compensate for them if they are to keep them. i see 4 options here.

            1) remove micro-DLC completely. (yeah if only)
            2) include more things in game. if they have time to lose to make stupid cometics they should have time to include more content in the game. more modes, more guns, more cosmetics that you dont need to buy afterwards.

            and completely unaffected by option 2, option 3) include “X number” of these cosmetic items for the season pass holder for free. they payed the season pass, they deserve their money’s worth.

            something needs to happen.

          • You payed for the paracord strap, the soundtrack, the game, the Seasons pass, and that fucking Gun rail camera. That’s a damn good deal for 200 bucks you cheap sum’ bitch.

          • honky

            no… thats actually a horrible deal

          • A camera that can cap video at 1080p usually runs for $120, now add the game.
            $120 (Camera)
            +$60 (Ghosts)
            +$40 (Paracord Strap)
            +$40 (Seasons Pass)
            +$20 (Soundtrack)
            +$5 (Team Leader Pack)
            _____
            $285

            P.S. Suck it.

          • Yes, and additional content is not apart of the original price. Maybe you don’t understand business and industries yourself.

            $60 = Original Game Price

            [New Variable of Cash] = DLC Added Overtime [Not Apart of the Original Price]

          • TheShadowReaper

            they should charge for additional content that is worth charging for. they purposely take out stuff out of the game or they make them purposely after they release the game. and that happens so they can charge more money to me, you and everyone else. if there were enough cosmetics in the game in the first place i would rant about it, but there not! there purposely just a few so they can charge you extra money for it! i understand business just fine. you dont. you seem not to understand the difference between a business offering you something for a fair price and a business overcharging you for something that they should not. and the only reason they get away with that is idiots like you who support them like they are your mother or something.

          • First of all, don’t call me an idiot just because you don’t understand my reasoning. You really sound like a 4 year old flapping his gums about nothing. My question is, how would you know what happens during game development and second of all, who are you to say how much quality in their game is worth?

          • TheShadowReaper

            i am their customer! i’ve been giving them money for a decade! i’m also in their main player base which means i’m among the guys that are vocal about balance changes and etc stuff. i am their main buyer demographic. if anyone it should be me and guys like me that should question their game quality. i know, i’ve been playing their games since the very first. get it now kid? you’re too young for shit, go play BF or something or whatever cool kids do these days.

          • MrLynx

            wait what about the pros? you know the people who play CoD for a living go to tournaments and win big bucks. IW listens to them very well. and even some of the pros pay for DLC because they like to flash off their skins

          • TheShadowReaper

            and what does pro players have to do with the argument whatsoever? they have money, a lot more than the usual COD player. so of course they will buy skins.

          • MrLynx

            i think you need to chill bruh lol

          • Psychomaggot105

            I can understand that if the dlc content was made before the game was released and they’re just waiting to release it for dlc in the future. Or if there wasn’t much content in the game at release and charge for future micro dlc. Which in a way I wished some of these exotic camos and outfits were in the game at release.

          • TheShadowReaper

            that’s exactly the point i’m making right there. they ARE supposed to be in the game on release! not making you pay for things you are supposed to own!

          • TurnDownForWhat

            I totally agree with you, but i also think that they should just take away micro-transactions all together so they dont have to think about it then they can actually put more time into a better game

          • TheShadowReaper

            yep, couldnt have said it better.

          • Trig

            or they could keep micro dlc so i can be happy.. and your statements are only directed to camo showing how your okay with the different character skins

          • CriT-

            the coding for the micro-dlc is in the coding not the actual design for the camo, the same goes for the map packs. during 4 three month periods they design and process all maps and camos.

          • Grenada!

            Exactly. It should be on the disc if we are paying $60 for the game.

          • JoBoJo

            No. You pay 60 euros for the game that is on the disc. I see where you are coming from I just don’t think that you truly understand what “downloadable content” is. You see, there are already disclaimers on the game boxes saying that DLC is additional, and not included in the cost of the disc. So, complaining and saying “I already payed 60 euros for this game” Yeah you did, you didn’t pay for the DLC though. That’s literally like complaining “I already payed $25,000 for this car, why do I need to buy gas? Haven’t they gotten enough from me!?”.

          • goestin

            You are so right other people who say micro DLC must be in the game from the start just don’t understand business. Only I would like more free micro DLC maybe for season pass holders, it was bullshit that u did’nt get any free camo when u had the season pass. I did like micro DLC not all of then just a few I hope the devs don’t listen to those other guys πŸ™‚

          • You got the Ice camo with the seasons pass. Still not worth it though. Maybe the legend packs could have been included with the seasons pass.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i completely understand downloadable content. what you fail to understand is companies that sell you aprts of the game that you ARE supposed to own for additional money just to rip you off.

            your example is laughable. what you should be saying is: “i already payed for this car why do i need to by gas?” is same as ” i already bought that PC, why do they keep charging me for electricity?” yeah, the game is a feature of the platform i’m using, not their DLCs.

          • Switch the gas for neon interiors, gold plated rims, specialized paint jobs, etc. Still your argument in a nutshell.

          • TheShadowReaper

            “here is your keyboard sir, the num pad misses so…15 more dollars plz, also the F keys are missing so…that will be 15 more dollars plz. did i forget to mention? 5 more dollars for the ESC key sir.” – YOUR argument in a nutshell.

          • You’re retarded. When you get a CoD game, you get enough to make everything run efficiently. Nothing more, nothing less. You buy a completely package: 14-17 maps, 12-14 camo’s, and about 50-ish weapons overall. That’s for the stock multiplayer. It’s always been this way since the engine revamp in MW2. Back to my car argument. What I was trying to say, the car argument went like: “Hey! I bought the car for 25k, so why the hell is the neon interiors, gold plated rims, and 2 sub speaker system not free?! Are you trying to take me for everything?!”.

            Now you`re trying to be a greasy little bastard and saying: “Hey! I bought the car for 25k, so why the hell is the gas cap, the reap bumper and the airbags missing? What kind of BS are you trying to pull?!”.

            An Activision game, is like buying a car, say $25k. You get the whole package to make it run properly, and nothing more. Any mods you want to install are up to you. And what I see is kids bitching about how spoiled they are and how ATVI won’t have whiny overly pampered children walk over them.

            Seriously. You guys are worse than the jokes make about jews.

          • Psychomaggot105

            Ya I’m not sure where he was going with that. I guess every bit of dlc post launch should be free?

          • TheShadowReaper

            your car argument is flawed from the very beginning cause, the mods you talk about cars are not sold by the company that makes the car. they are sold by 3rd party companies, and a select few of them working with the parent company of the car you just purchased. the micro-DLC you’re talking about are all owned by AVTI, the company that sold you the game, that sold you that very car! get it?

            there was no engine revamp in MW2, what are you talking about?

            the stock multiplayer? and that’s ok to you? so they get more money out of you with micro-DLCs and still expect them to do the same instead of stepping it up? giving value to your money you fucking sheep? they also have more time now, 3 years instead of 2. its inexcusable for them to sell to you the same stock multiplayer they sold you 7 years ago. yet you by into it. you are stupid morons like you are the reason gaming as a whole has gone to shit. and its only going to get worse thanks to the stupidity of you guys.

          • Way to assume I’m a sheep, just because you have to be right. Let’s start this off with a bullet point.

            1. Yeah, they may be 3rd party add-ons for your vehicle, but that doesn’t matter. It all adds to your experience to your car, just like micro DLC adds to your game. Just like buying a cushioned mouse pad adds to your pc experience. May not have come from Microsoft/Apple but it adds, all the same.

            2.Yes there was. Go look at gameplay from [email protected], then MW2, you can see they put a lot of work into modifying the engine to make 3D modelling more ‘photo-realistic’ so to speak. The FOV drawing for the guns are a huge improvement, including the walking animation your hands make when you move.

            3. Absolutely not, if the quality of products rises, the producer needs to step up to reach that new par. I feel they should give us more content, but thatr doesn’t mean DLC should be free. 3arc, and IW not as much, put hard work into designs and they need to charge for DLC to pay wear and tear on their equipment, pay their employee’s, pay Activision to be under their umbrellas, the money is needed, so just suck it up or don’t buy it.

          • TheShadowReaper

            what do you mean it doesnt matter? that was your fucking point and now you just take everything back so you can be right? get the fuck out of my face with that bullshit. fucking fake. what a sheep.

          • It does not matter if an add on is 3rd party or not. It adds to the enjoy-ability to the product you have purchased. For fuck sake is it that hard to understand? And taking what back? I never expressed my opinion of the Micro DLC until last post. What I said about having just enough to make the game run efficiently was an observation. But I feel there should be more content, not all in multiplayer, but bits and pieces more in the other 2 pillars; so I would have incentive to play SP or Co-Op. Maybe rewards that transfer to MP like Squad Points or weapon unlocks.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i would agree with you, but right now they have 3 years to develop the games. as you said there should be more overall content and that includes the cosmetics for the multiplayer. not that it was ok when they had 2 years to develop the games but at least it was some kind of an excuse. (which btw no one has presented me up until now which means all of you are full of shit and have no idea what you’re talking about) but now they have no excuse. unless they present 30+ cosmetics for everything, either be it a gun or an exosuit and then they sell you more it will be kinda ok. but as it is now, no one should buy and defend this. it just makes any defender of this an offender towards gaming altogether cause that shit is wrong.

          • Yo, SHG is the first studio to be allowed on the 3 year cycle. IW still had 2 years and had to develop for 3 new consoles, don’t get me wrong ghosts is still shit in my eyes but I can see some modicum of effort. Unfortunately Ghosts is a victim of circumstances (Next-Gen coming into circulation) and IW’s misleading ways. I can forgive a bad game, but I can’t forgive bad DLC since they have all the time in the world (3+ months).

          • Carlo Montino

            No, here’s the thing you little fuck. Enough with the car analogies. This isn’t just about what or how much is our right to have for the €60, or $100 we spend on the game (which mind you if it’s going to be a game as recycled as COD, then we DAMN well better get a plethora of customisation options in DISC at purchase, so I agree with TheShadowReaper on this one). It’s merely the fact that when hundreds of thousands of little spoilt kids, or old social degenerate farts like you blindly conform to anything that major multibillion dollar conglomerates like Activision throw your/their way, they realise that they can get away with anything, and end up thinking with their calculators, rather than with their heads when it comes to game design and integrity. So stop buying their stupid Micro DLCs, which aren’t even hard to produce. And it doesn’t matter if they are only a few bucks. Just imagine if one of those Micro DLCs cost 5 bucks. Now take roughly 200,000 – which is a super small fraction of the total COD community – and make them buy that. That’s a million dollars in their pockets. And believe me, this example is a HUGE understatement. Millions upon millions buy at least one micro DLC. So you do the maths.

            So NO, this isn’t about paying to win, and having advantages over other players because of some cheap ass DLCs. It’s about mindless peasants like you who keep succumbing to their eveil ways, and end up paying twice as much money, for a half arsed job. Capiche?

          • Dude, maybe you don’t understand the single most important word in the whole argument. It’s not a rip-off or a scam, it’s OPTIONAL.

          • Carlo Montino

            I don’t give a shit if it’s OPTIONAL!
            They shouldn’t have to cost a nickel or dime, period. They’re way too easy to make. And if we’re paying for Season Pass, we should be getting them as well. It’s bad enough a lot of our pre-order bonuses either get taken away from us, or end up being released for free to the rest of the community (Nuketown 2025 playlist removed after first week of BO2 release, next secon, enter scenes of outrage from COD community, Free Fall ends up being put in public lobby map rotations a few months after release).

            Do I need to continue?

          • Ok, I decided to continue reading on to enlighten you, and sadly, all I still see is a little bitch whining over micro DLC and preorder maps becoming public.

          • No, just stop buying the Season Pass.

          • mmcmm54321

            If the only thing they made money from was the disc with the game they wouldn’t have enough money to pay the people that made the game and eventually make a new game. That would mean that you would be playing the same game and eventually they would run out of money to keep the game running right which means they would remove multiplayer, and it’s the same for most multiplayer games which would mean few to no multiplayer games.
            Sorry if that was confusing.

          • Give up on this Fucknard, we’ll be enjoying the game while he’s wasting air raging over micro DLC

          • Guest

            Holy shit man. Props to you to make me sound like an absolute slave to Activision when you’ve probably bought more of their DLC than I have. All I ever bought was the Blunt Force Camo the the extinction squad pack, and the Simon Riley pack. I’m not getting all worked up about people not buying the DLC IW is putting out, I encourage people to boycott IW because of how shady they’ve become in the recent months. But to see these comments bashing SHG about their micro DLC, before the game is even released, is what gets to me. We have a pretty good idea that they can deliver quality content like 3arc did in BO2, based on this years E3 demonstration.

            We don’t own the rights to the DLC, we own the rights to the disc of the game we purchased. The art designer owns the camos and the IP on maps, and they can choose whether or not to submit it to their respective archive for use if they choose to.

            Now, from the business perspective, do you honestly think it’s sane to say micro DLC camos should be free? If that’s the case, why can’t the people do 3D YouTube intros for free? Why shouldn’t the map packs be free? They’re all just scraps of when the game was being developed, why charge for it, right? Because gaming is a fiscal industry and requires money to operate, and the point of a business is to make as much money as they can.

            P.S. You’re the only person who liked your comment. Just an FYI. Also some spelling lessons would help. Or at least a double check on your spelling.

          • Holy shit man. Props to you to make me sound like an absolute slave to Activision when you’ve probably bought more of their DLC than I have. All I ever bought was the Blunt Force Camo the the extinction squad pack, and the Simon Riley pack. I’m not getting all worked up about people not buying the DLC IW is putting out, I encourage people to boycott IW because of how shady they’ve become in the recent months. But to see these comments bashing SHG about their micro DLC, before the game is even released, is what gets to me. We have a pretty good idea that they can deliver quality content like 3arc did in BO2, based on this years E3 demonstration.

            We don’t own the rights to the DLC, we own the rights to the disc of the game we purchased. The art designer owns the camos and the IP on maps, and they can choose whether or not to submit it to their respective archive for use if they choose to.

            Now, from the business perspective, do you honestly think it’s sane to say micro DLC camos should be free? If that’s the case, why can’t the people do 3D YouTube intros for free? Why shouldn’t the map packs be free? They’re all just scraps of when the game was being developed, why charge for it, right? Because gaming is a fiscal industry and requires money to operate, and the point of a business is to make as much money as they can. Fuck, if I found out my employees were giving away free food because the customers were ‘entitled’ to it because they wasted the gas to drive to my establishment, I’d be shitting a brick, and firing that little shit.

            P.S. You’re the only person who liked your comment. Just an FYI. Also some spelling lessons would help. Or at least a double check on your spelling.

            P.P.S: When did I ever say anywhere I was in support of pay to win?

          • Psychomaggot105

            That right there doesn’t make sense. That would be like paying 60 dollars for the game then having to pay extra to access multiplayer/campaign/extinction. Charging for future dlc is similar to paying for a cushion for your keyboard or a different faceplate or whatever you add to it. For the most part we get a completed game.( With some updates.)

          • CriT-

            not to bother you but were not supposed to own the camos not since ever, they have never said to us that we are supposed to have everything in the coding on launch. not how cod has worked since dlc was first introduced

          • Carlo Montino

            No, but when we’ve paid for season pass, then it really pisses us off when they release more DLC which has to be paid for extra.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            This is definitely something we can agree on, I’m fucking sick and tired of these ignoramuses voting for camos to return. They should not even ask for a price in the first place, they should be shipped with the game.

          • TheShadowReaper

            go say this to the fucking bastard @disqus_GXXqQs4zuy:disqus. he is voting for them and he is dumber than a carrot. i’ve been arguing with the idiot for a day now. stupid dont tire easily, unfortunately for me.

          • You know what, we can agree on that. Stupid doesn’t tire easily, you’re still trying to talk shit to me.

          • Mr Doge

            Burned him lol

          • honky

            how was that a burn? you are so stupid

          • He said stupid doesn’t tire easy, and he’s still trying to insult me. Ergo he’s stupid. Its not that hard to follow.

          • TheShadowReaper

            yes, cause making stupid jokes definitely makes you win an argument where you need logic and facts. 2 things you clearly havent used even once in your life. yet you have the nerve to make a stupid joke like that. kids these days…

          • Wow, 3 days for that? That was anti-climatic.

          • TheShadowReaper

            yeah sorry about that. i wasnt gonna reply but when i was strolling through comments today i saw stupid comments like @mr_doge:disqus and i thought to give my input.

          • Carlo Montino

            Here’s the big picture Shady.. You’re Activision’s little bitch who will happily bend over backwards for them and let them fuck you anyway they please, and take any shit they force down your throat and try to justify it. That “nobody is forcing you to buy it” argument is pathetic and utter bullshit. It’s not about us being forced. It’s about cunts like you who blindly fall for their evil marketing tricks, and send out a message to the developers and publishers which gives them the idea that they can fuck us over any way they want, because we have a large number of superficial minded fucks like you who are oblivious to the fact that they are being ripped off. And no, those Micro DLCs are not hard to make you stupid piece of shit. Those camos for instant are just simple square images quickly put together on some Adobe Suite software, usually like a 100 x 100 pixel image. Then the game/software has algorithms in place which automatically wrap it around the gun. And honestly? Most of their Micro DLC camos have been horrible. I could come up with much better looking ones. I mean, duck faces and cats in space? The FUCK??

          • Awww, that’s cute, you think my argument is weak. Please. Not one anti micro DLC person has given me one good reason why its so bad.
            Like I told some retard who tried to use the, “I could do it for free” card, guess what, I can build a game for free. Does that mean I shouldn’t pay money for my games? I never said it was hard to make. I just said it did have time and effort go into each and every camo. And coding the algorithm still involves someone working yes? You could come up with better ones? Guess what, I don’t give a fuck. And you know what? At least I don’t like my own comment just to try and seem like people agree with me. Guess what, if you look at the results for the last question, people want more. And finally, if you think Activision is so evil, why are you playing a game they publish? Seems counterproductive. Now please, go back to playing that hide and seek game you been playing with your parents your entire life.
            TL;DR You’re a bitch

          • Carlo Montino

            The fuck you talking about cunt? I’m 24. Clearly you did not read my argument. I placed a couple more comments further down. Go read them, and you’ll see just how crystal clear my arguments are.

            Stop being a puppet. Do you not realise you’re being played??

          • Again liking your own comment? And you’re 24 months old? Wow. If you don’t like it, then don’t buy it. Still pissing you off? Don’t play the game then? Don’t want to stop playing the game and still whining about it? Then just STFU.
            The only one getting played here is you. I’m over here, enjoying the game, and you are getting pissed over camos. You’re a joke just like everyone else who’s getting pissed over camos.

          • Trig

            if i made a free game and the deadline to release it was coming up so i couldnt get evry thing in the game… or i left stuff out of it that i thought ppl who wanted to pay would buy, and then i add it into the game later.. should you pay for that stuff or make it free… aight how bout now im a company and i pay you to design shit.. and after release your still designing shit and i take that new shit and tell u if i put it in the game for free you dont get money for your creativity… if i make it cost 2 dollars ill have more money to put into both our paychecks.. decide choice 1 free but still completly up to the player if he wants to use a camo.. or 2 2 dollars and the player still can decide if he wants a new camo or leave it off….. or die trying to unlock the challenges for other camos

          • Trig

            im on shady’s side btw

          • How are we being ripped off if it clearly states, “not included in game package”, are we getting ripped off for $2.00 micro DLCs that weren’t even supposed to come with the disc anyway? You make no sense.

          • Carlo Montino

            How are we being ripped off? I’ll tell you how. By buying Season Pass for 3 consecutive years, and still seeing them release extra goodies which cost extra few bucks.

            By me spending $230 on BO2 collectors edition only to find I bought a fuckin broken game made by a fuckin bunch of amateurs who are known for having the worst lag, hit detection and lag compensation in their games. Don’t you see? Yet still they came out with extra small shit I wasn’t entitled to have for free. It’s the whole principle of it. You’re thinking too simply about it. Think deeper. What we’re trying to say is that instead of them worrying about shit like Micro DLC, why don’t they focus first on keeping their shit together and producing a solid game which sets for a grand experience. But all they can think about is fuckin weed camos, snoop dogg voices and other pathetic nonsense, completely overlooking the most basic and important part of the design process – the actual core and fundamentals of the game.

          • Then don’t buy season pass. At least your not raging about it like TheShadowReaper. You make a fine argument if I say so myself but the core of it is that it’s all optional and if people took the time to understand they don’t need to buy the Micro DLC, they don’t need to buy Season pass, and they don’t need to buy the game, then everyone would understand the way me and Shady do.

          • CriT-

            Why don’t people understand they have different teams to work on dlc, one for campaign, one for there art, multiplayer, development etc.

          • Mr Doge

            I seriously cant believe your still trying to prove a point. Its literally you and ShadowReaper VS everyone else. Everyone knows your wrong. The game already comes with about 15 camos are you that cheap that when you cant pay 2 bucks for a camo you gotta complain about it not being free? Just pathetic. And I know you’ll try to retaliate with some BS reply.

          • honky

            well shadowreaper is 50x smarter than everyone else especially you

          • Honestly, no he’s not. His argument entertains the fact we should be getting all material for $60.00 when material made later on would cost more than that in total. Plus, 50x? No, that’s your opinion.

          • TheShadowReaper

            you should be getting material that is worth 60 usd/euros. right now you dont. and the material that is supposed to balance that is sold to you for more than 60 usd/euros. i dont know if i’m smarter than you or anybody else but unlike you i use logic. such a simple yet so hard for you to grasp concept.

          • mmcmm54321

            Look who graduated with a major in preschool math.

          • TwitchTV Dalton923

            I’m sorry but no one wants camos… camos doesn’t affect the way you play so why do we need them?

          • GodlyNico

            I’m sorry. But buying those things also helps then update the game. They need money to pay their workers, etc. Buying stuff in game helps the company help the consumer. And by doing so you get more updates faster.

          • TheShadowReaper

            no. these micro-DLCs arent updates. wtf is wrong with gamers today. have you no idea how a fucking game works? what a disappointment.

          • No one said Micro-DLCs were updates. The “fundraisers” or DLC purchasing helps Activision pay their workers to optimize features, surface to new engines, create better coding and perform active updates to the game. The money influenced by DLC is used to pay for the Activision Company itself and their workers at hand. How else do you think we get updates, do they work for free? Because that’s how you want your DLC, which makes no sense. Post-Launch material should not be free for a game you bought already. It’s POST Launch. material. Added later into the original game, doesn’t matter if it is 1st or 3rd party material. If you just can’t understand that, quit playing COD and go play Titanfall or Battlefield and complain about that on a different forum far from CharlieIntel.

          • Couldn’t have said it better myself

          • Thank you Shady. You play XBOX Live or PSN

          • I’m on Xbox One and PC

          • I’m on PS3/PS4

          • TheShadowReaper

            idiot is being an idiot again.

            “fundraisers” if the game had enough cosmetics in the first place then they would be considered fundraisers for the IW team. but right now they are just rip off cosmetics which were ripped away from the game itself. (or were never made for the game itself in the first place purposely so they can be made later and be sold separately) if you want to consider them fundraisers yourself be my guest. but keep your opinion to yourself. cause they are far from a fundraiser since not enough of these were in the game in the first place.

          • CriT-

            i”m not completely dis-agreeing with you but it doesn’t matter if you payed your 60$ or euros because its not personal preference its the communities preference to pay 2$ a camo.
            As well as your choice to pay extra for extra content. there been downloadable content for some time and when they add in camos its a big deal.i’m just saying man nothing personal.

          • Steve Hiller

            Yeah. I want to EARN my cosmetics through battle instead of having to pay actual money for it. I spend 20 bucks on DLC as it is, plus the price of the original game, what more do you want from me?

          • MrLynx

            its optional.

          • honky

            you are very stupid. very very stupid. it was free and has been striped away. im being charged for something that takes them effort to take away from me. go die seriously you are hopeless

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            It was never free. Go look on any game before BO2. Did they have free micro-DLC? No. From the second they began putting the camos out there, they charged for them. Not saying that’s good, but would you rather have no options at all or options to buy them? From a business standpoint, they’re never going to be free. The difference between you and I are that while you try to fight back and try to get them for free, I accept that they will always cost money and just don’t buy them.

          • honky

            every game before mw2 had free camos on pc. that function has been stripped away. i get banned for modding them in now. it cost them money to strip away that function and charge it back to me.

            not only that but theyre going to start removing the basic camos from the game and charge them to us.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            You’re complaining because you can’t mod anymore? They’re not going to remove the basic camos.

          • Wiz

            They removed the country titles in both bo2 and ghosts and then they charged us for it.

          • HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT’S 3 FUCKING DOLLARS. All I read is you cheap fucking pricks who can’t even spare money for a god damned Big Mac to buy a camo! You people are as bad as the jokes about jews that people make. Besides, who the fuck cares. Does it ruin your experience? No. Does it split player count? No. Pull your self entitled heads out of your ass, and either suck it up, or don’t fucking buy it. Simple as that.

          • The Wiener Warrior

            You’re getting way to butt hurt about this. 3 dollars adds up if you buy several packs, which at the very least should be included in the season pass if not the game which your paying 60-70$ for in the first place.

          • Wiz

            Yes but they were included in older call of duty titles so why should we pay for them now? If you dont mind it then activision will begin to charge for more and more features untill it comes to a point where ganemodes, kill streaks, attachments, and weapons will cost “3 FUCKING DOLLARS!”. It’s already starting with cod ghosts where the maverick and the ripper are $4 EACH. In conclusion, micro DLC does NOT belong in any fully priced game.

          • blbsnipe

            First I would like to start with I don’t agree with the micro-dlc camos, that being said they provide more camos in the base game than any of the old ones, with the exception of maybe BO1

          • honky

            you are so stupid it is unbelievable. how about since your not cheap you buy everyones for them. fucking people like you are so brainless its a wonder how you function. have you read your own comment? it is so beyond idiotic i cannot believe it. i mean theres opinions and then theres how fucking stupid you are. i already bought the camo i dont want to it to be taken away and sold back to me you are so so so stupid please never do anything important with your life

          • This guy, this guy gets it.

          • honky

            no he doesn’t he only gets how to eat sleep and poop because hes such a retard

          • “you are so stupid it is unbelievable. how about since your not cheap you buy everyones for them. fucking people like you are so brainless its a wonder how you function. have you read your own comment? it is so beyond idiotic i cannot believe it. i mean theres opinions and then theres how fucking stupid you are. i already bought the camo i dont want to it to be taken away and sold back to me you are so so so stupid please never do anything important with your life”

            -Honky / 2014
            ‘He never could come up with his own arguments. Only endlessly berate his opponent.’

          • honky

            and you just quoted me instead of replying thanks for the win and ive typed a million different points to a million different people hard to believe how dumb you are

          • Every sentence you write is just the definition of retard. Get out of here.

          • honky

            modding is a big part of things and brings many people fun excitement and enjoyment and also gets us things like camos it is very important

          • honky

            ALSO they should be a part of the season pass from an ethics perspective you buy that you should get everything but nope charge charge charge and you are okay with that

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Well I don’t buy the season pass, I only buy the DLC if the maps look good and if I deem it worthy. Also the season pass is for the 4 DLC packs, and you should know that from that start. Nothing more.

          • Ogawa

            Yeah! Season Pass should include map packs and micro DLCS!

          • Mr Doge

            Yep true people just never accept the fact that they wont always get everything for free.

          • honky

            WE BOUGHT THE GAME ALREADY. IT WAS NOT FREE YOU IDIOT

            i mean people like you are just the scum of the earth because of how dumb you are

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            BTW I would like to disagree, because the Ripper and Maverick can be bought. I probably already mentioned this already, though. It DOES effect core gameplay, and it needs to be stopped.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Yeah, I said I don’t like how they have weapon DLC. It’s becoming pay to win in that aspect.

          • blbsnipe

            Except you can only get those guns through the dlc map packs so technically they are providing the people who don’t want to buy those specific dlcs the opportunity to get the guns. You can’t blame micro-dlcs for those weapons.

        • Zarky

          Blood Dragon was a pile of shit? Are you really using that as an example?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            WHOA. Take that back. BD has to be one of the best FPS games ever made, and it was just a DLC.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Blood Dragon was incredible. Amazing FPS, and it was hilarious while it was at it. Loved that DLC, best $15 I’ve ever spent on a videogame.

          • Although Blood Dragon is amazing, I’ll put these here, RDR Undead Nightmare, Episodes From Liberty City and much more…

          • honky

            i hope you have a painful death for saying that

          • Grenada!

            A good example of DLC is the GTA 4 story DLC packs. The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony is what DLC should be like.

        • Technifyy

          So you’re paranoid about the option for camos.. You have a phobia against options for OTHER people? That’s kind of irrational. You don’t need to buy it if it’s such a problem, but if others want to buy them, so be it.

        • ccrows

          “Camo/character Mictotransactions”, that has nothing to do with maps and camo doesn’t enhance your weapon.

          What’s the problem?…

          • Batman

            Because usually they take the most exotic camos out from the game 2 sell as dlc

          • The fact that it exists.

        • blbsnipe

          League of Legends is extremely fun, and yet you know the entire time that there are literally hundreds of skins you can get for upwards of $5 each. If you don’t want to buy the camos or maps then don’t buy them, but don’t criticize other people for their decisions.

          • But League of Legends is a Free to Play game, Call of Duty isn’t

          • blbsnipe

            Yeah but Call of Duty provides you with default camos on disc, League gives you 400 RP to buy Assassin Mater Yi, thats it, it all balances out

      • honky

        Because this stuff was FREE for us before using mods to get them in. This has been taken away from us and cost me money. Screw you dude, seriously you don’t deserve to be alive for how stupid you are.

      • Batman

        Makes CoD ridiculous, and its just taking away the fun of unlocking camos without money

        • Frankie Condell

          …. i had to pres the ‘load more comments button six times to get down here ._.

    • No one is forcing you to buy it. There’s people who like the option of doing so, y’know?

    • Bigi345

      Activision isn’t forcing you to buy them. Just buy it if you think it’s worth it, don’t buy if it isn’t. Simple! That’s how i roll, and why i bought a lot of BO2 packs and barely any Ghosts packs

      • It’s make the game feel nasty, as I said before, they should implant the same system Team Fortress has.

        • Comrade

          So add more add even more cosmetics at a higher price?

          • Or get them by trading for almost absolute free and by getting FREE drops!

      • The problem is that people will buy these cosmetic items that were withheld from the final release. Activision sees it as a means of nickel and diming players further. Thus, more items get withheld from the final release of the next game to serve as DLC.

        It’s a vicious pattern, and unfortunately, many gamers have let it happen.

        The day where we’re charged for extra killstreaks or even weapon classes doesn’t seem that exaggerated.

        • Bigi345

          Well i’m a person who doesn’t care as long as IT’S COSMETIC. If isn’t cosmetic then, that’s where i draw the line. No competitive value should be given to anyone who spends more money on the same game.

          • It’s just a current practice in the industry that has rubbed me the wrong way since the beginning. I knew once they started testing the waters in Black Ops 2, it would just get worse from there.

            I look at my old copy of GoldenEye on the N64 and ponder, “If this came out today, how much of this game would I be paying for after I bought it?”

          • honky

            well you should probably go hang yourself then because you support consumer unfriendliness, let us get stolen from, and are very stupid

    • exeterman2

      I don’t mind having a few, reasonable personalisation packs. Like the BO2 ones were. But the ghosts ones have been ridiculous.

    • Guest

      As long as they’re not necessary to play the game I’m fine it just like with the map packs you don’t have to buy them to find a match unless something’s changed.

    • Mario Rivera

      53% of ppl love getting ass raped…where were these guys when i was in prison lol

    • Alejandro SepΓΊlveda

      I think that there shoukd be a “i don’t care” option there.

      I don’t really care about that stuff being in the game, i will not bother to buy it, but I still want it in the game for the people who might want it,

      Therefore I voted yes.

      Maybe there is more people thinking like me there voting “yes”.

    • But why does this matter? YOU ARE NOT FORCED TO BUY IT.

    • Fading Lee

      Very depressing… the worst part is most people don’t realize that buying these micro crapactions encourages activision to keep charging for them… If no one bought them(from the beginning) they’d probably be an occasionally free gimmick with pre orders/season passes…

    • Psychomaggot105

      I no problem with micro dlc, as long as they include exotic camos in the game day one. Have them unlocked through harder challenges, hitting certain prestige levels, headshots etc.

    • Grenada!

      I know right. I was like WTF when I seen that there were more votes for Yes.

      • The camos should come with the map packs DLC and the DLC should cost max $5.

    • Grenada!

      God. If they do have micro-transactions again, please make it that you don’t throw it in my face every god damn time I load up your game. It’s like they are trying to force feed you with their shitty camos and characters that you can’t even see.

    • Angelreborn96

      It’s funny that xbox has more votes than PS only because the majority of the people who gets it for xbox, wants the DLC earlier lol. So sad. I got ps4 I can wait for a DLC a month later because I’m not desperate, AND I play my game at 1080p lol. Suck it xbox

      • You have fun with that… Don’t really care tho… :p

        • Angelreborn96

          I will pal. Thanks

          • I will say this about PS, now that they are finally getting content first, I’m actually interested in getting their console, ie Destiny, Warframe, etc.

          • Angelreborn96

            Nooo lol, ps4 is not getting content for CoD: AW first. Xbox still is lol. But eh, I don’t like war frame, destiny didn’t impress me too much

          • I know that Xbox is still getting COD first but I mean that they are finally starting get DLC first over Xbox. I enjoyed Warframe on PC so I want to try out the console version and I’m a Bungie fanboy and I like to FPS RPG games so I just go batshit crazy when I hear new Destiny news. Plus I’ll get a chance to play The Last of Us with 60fps. I just hope its as good everyone says it is. But pretty much every other game I’m planning to go XB1 for.

      • We don’t even know if the game will be 1080p, yet.

        • Angelreborn96

          Really?? How not? I mean.. It should be 1080 for ps4 since ghosts was 1080 on ps4 and PC.. Too bad not XB1..

  • Guywithbrains

    PS4, theater mode return, centered around eSports (between yes and no), new era for multiplayer, no micro-transactions. That’s how I answered. πŸ˜‰

    • Please, no Theater mode. That’s what absolutely ruins the hitdetection, just look at the hitdetections in BO1, MW3 and BO2. Those games had Theater mode, and it had some disastrous effects on the gameplay.

      • Guywithbrains

        Oh now that I remember, maybe theater mode isn’t needed, because I got share button on my PS4 controller. Problem solved! πŸ˜€

      • Trizay

        That’s a myth. Theatre Mode doesn’t affect theatre mode at all and it’s just a misconception that somebody made up. CharlieIntel covered this topic a while ago.

        • Yeah, I know now, got a lot of replies.

          I haven’t been following CI for a long time, so, sorry about me not being up to date.

  • I don’t get why a lot of people want the game to be centered around eSports, or at least, larger portion than I expected, and they also want huge change to MP.

    These are two things that don’t go together, if you ask me. eSports pretty much kicks everything ‘new’ out of their matches. Marksman rifles, optics, killstreaks, perks, maps. The only thing that they keep are like 1 or 2 gamemodes.

    How can they accept a strafe, or a boost jump, when they can’t even have the Stalker perk effect in their rules?

    • Hostslayer

      They’ll separate the things for competitive while making most guns balanced and a few that will stands out. Put power positions on the map to force gunfights there. Bring back CTF & Hardpoint (hopefully)

      • kyr95

        Finally someone with sense!

        • I don’t say eSports is a wrong thing, eh πŸ˜‰
          And isn’t that what would happen even without eSports? There will always be such spots, and I, as more of a Pubs player, do really like that, since you can create tactical advantage over your enemy that way.

          Bringing back Hardpoint would be awesome, really enjoyed that gamemode on BO2, was a good OBJ mode to play besides Domination.

          What I meant to say was: when AW gets a lot of innovation, a lot of that innovation will never see eSports, since they ban a lot of stuff out of the game.

          My only fear with eSports is that you will get forced to play it, not saying that it will happen though. Why? Because I don’t like the competitive side of CoD, I’ve been there for a whole year during BO2, but I get way more fun when playing Pubs with a couple of friends.

          • kyr95

            I never said that you hate Espots, forgive me if i gave a bad impression πŸ™‚ I want Esports to be include in cod, but not alter greatly the public mathces ( which is what SHG’s plan is, to please both the public and esports players ) What i dont agree with, is the people wanting Esports completely removed from the game. Is it bad for the game to have league play as long as it doesnt interfere with the regular matches? :/

  • Hostslayer

    Theater mode isn’t needed

  • Yes, because more Esports influence and Horse Armor is just what this waning series needs. Excuse me while I check out.

  • Theater mode should NOT be making it’s return. It’s what fucked up the hit detection in BO, BO2 and MW3 in the first place.

    Ghosts doesn’t have Theater, and the hitdetection is pretty much the best of any CoD.

    If you want to record yourgameplays, buy a capture card, you’ll have way more options of making videos that way. For montages, I can’t think of a solution πŸ˜›

    • Dylan

      Theater mode wasn’t responsible for the crappy netcode. It may have overloaded the ancient servers and caused lag but that along with lag compensation was the root-cause. Theater if anything seeing it was recorded from the host POV; exposed how bad the lag and lag comp were in the game.

      • How come the hitdetection is better in Ghosts with Theater removed? (Just a friendly question)

        • Bigi345

          That’s the thing NO ONE KNOWS. There’s no one outside the developers that has prove if theater mode changes the netcode’s performance. No one knows if it doesn’t change it or actually removing theater mode actually improves netcode performance.

          • jooker-jr

            I’m not a developer but u r recording everything u do with the theater mode so I think that’s will cause some lag

            If the the theater mode turned out to be one of the main reasons for the lag then they better remove It if not then they don’t need to.

          • Right, thanks for clearing it up πŸ™‚

        • Dylan

          Hit detection is better (for some) in Ghosts end of. It’s nothing to do with the theater being omitted. It’s a misconception associated with COD despite evidence that netcode frailties were down largely to Lag Compensation which was introduced in MW3 which was where the hit detection issues came into fruition. Also Ghosts has more powerful weapons on paper and a reduced health structure for the player when compared to the likes of Black Ops. These are more factors as to why you die sooner and bullet detection seems better. Once again; these have nothing to do with the theater absence.

    • wtflolsmh

      Hit detection is the best in Ghosts? LMFAO I’ve watch tons of pro scrims where they would complain about getting killed while past a wall…

      • Well, the hitdetection is at least better than it was on MW3, BO2 or BO. That’s for sure.

      • jooker-jr

        That’s is the host problem not the hit detection also the tickRate ( how many times the game updates in one second ) while it’s high for some games ( 30 ) it’s low for a faced paced action game for example counter strike : global Offensive has 64 and 128 tickRate servers and that’s why their are more dying from behind walls in cod and bf4 ( in bf4 it was 10 but they made it 30 with the recent update ) than CS:GO.

    • Keshav Bhat

      I thought this was cleared up a while ago. Theater mode actually does not effect hit detection. That’s a false premise that people aren’t able to provide evidence for.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Actually, it effects the host of the game. If they have Theater turned on and you have it turned off, at least.

      • Sorry for bringing in up then. My ignorance, excuse me.

  • RdJokr

    I want camo and character skins to be free. No way in hell should you pay for something so trivial. But alas, the only way to get those without paying extras would be to buy the season pass…

    • jooker-jr

      IMO the season pass isn’t needed right now

      Yes u get a slight discount but that’s not enough

      • RdJokr

        I still see it as the most effective and financial-friendly way to get every DLC for COD. It’s probably not a big deal to MP players (not having 1-2 MP maps isn’t the end of the world), but co-op players are usually left with no choice since they choose to play out the story in an episodic formula (both Zombies and Extinction have went that way, so it’s most likely Sledgehammer’s mode will be the same, unless it’s just random survival stuff with no story, which is highly unlikely).

        • jooker-jr

          I think they can make it better if they give the season pass owners exclusive contents like 5 exclusive camos.

  • Josh

    How about a survey for what we definitely don’t want in Advanced Warfare so SHG don’t make the same mistakes as IW.

    • Guywithbrains

      1. Small to medium maps, colorful maps, try to make maps like Terminal, Afghan, Highrise and Favela
      2. Don’t put objectives like B-flag to position, where there is too many places to flank you while you try to capture the objective, BO2 made it impossible to get B-flag from enemy if you had team full of random noobs
      2. Make it more gun vs. gun combat, but still make cool scorestreaks that also do something (Lighting Strike, AC-130/VTOL, basic UAV and these kind of scorestreaks)
      3. Talking about scorestreaks, don’t make it 500 points to get UAV like BO2 did.
      4. Try to make weapons like each one acts differently. Also don’t make sub machine guns more powerful than assault rifles
      5. Keep domination like MW3, no half times
      6. Make spawning system better and try to make it like that teams don’t go like enemy team full of 6000 points vs. your team where best score is 1200 (BO2 problems yet again)

      I can’t come up with anything else. Comment below if you agree or you have new ideas. But based on this list, if they make it happen, I am sold. πŸ™‚

      • jordanxbrookes

        I definitely want the classic Dom style with no rounds, I mean I wouldn’t mind it having rounds, I just think they should leave that for League Play.

      • I just would like a regular three kill no-frills UAV back. No more of this SAT-COM bullshit Infinity Ward tried to pull.

        • Guywithbrains

          I liked more original UAV. Bring that back. Also Advanced UAV is nice but don’t make it support.

          • iβ™₯COD

            No LSAT either, most overpowered streak in COD

      • A couple of small maps, most of the maps medium size and a couple of large ones, then I’m good with it.
        Domination as it is now on Ghosts is good.

        • Guywithbrains

          I liked that neutralized flag idea, though. πŸ™‚

          • Yup, it is. That’s why I said Ghosts’ take on Domination is good. With the ‘taking’ and ‘losing’ icons and also the halfway mark which neutralizes the flag.

          • Guywithbrains

            It actually seemed like it made people play the objective more, because flags were easy to see (totally different colors red, white, yellow and blue)

          • Didn’t really experience that, but I like it very much to see that there is an enemy on my flag. It helps the situational awareness

          • Iβ™₯COD

            Yes neutralized flags is great, although i do think you cap them to quick in Ghosts.

      • No Blackbird or Orbital VSAT killstreaks. That just makes the game too easy.

        • Guywithbrains

          Yeah, seeing enemy team live on the mini map feels like cheating.

          • jordanxbrookes

            Especially when hackers get involved -_-

          • Tom

            I got it to a hacked lobby in ghosts in a public match and automatically got 9999 score for each kill and capture.

          • Josh

            Same, they had aim bot and were flying.

          • I got slotted into a hacked lobby only three days after the release of Ghosts. That is what broke me from playing it any longer. I got rid of it the next day.

            Never before had I paid full price for a new game and cast it away so quickly.

        • Bigi345

          What? I want that, shows campers. They can just increase the value needed for it though.

          • Having a VSAT up made people camp even more, at least that’s what my experience was.

          • iβ™₯COD

            vsat also caused the opposing team to leave in more cases than not, and its usually the campers who get them and then get a swarm from the lsat!

        • Those killstreaks keep the silencer using cowards who hardly use their left thumbsticks in check.

          Nothing made me more satisfied in the first Black Ops than watching a bunch of amateur night ghost using scumbags panic and scramble when a Blackbird was called. It became Judgment Night.

          • That may be true, but I still don’t like them. When you got your VSAT in BO2, you winning the game was pretty much a fact. You could get your second VSAT while having your first VSAT up. Sure, momentum is good, but knowing where everyone is, is in my opinion absolutely bullcrap. It takes away the skill of figuring out where enemies come from.

            That’s my opinion though, not forcing it on you. I do understand where you are coming from ^^

          • I completely understand as well. Lord knows I always kept a class with EMP grenades at the ready to combat an enemy VSAT myself.

        • iβ™₯COD

          you are correct. VSAT / blackbird is the most over powered kill streak in the game. Advanced UAV from mw3 was more balance

          • iβ™₯COD

            Although thinking about it the ability to see through walls perk might not make this relevant.

      • Siftblade of Rivia

        I disagree with most of the list.

        2. Putting B flag in a position with multiple routes makes it in fact easier to cap. Would you rather they put it somewhere were the enemy can just camp to hold it and there’s no other way to get B, or where there are multiple flank routes to surprise your enemy?
        3. The BO2 UAV was patched to take more score to receive.
        4. Sub machine guns are only more powerful than AR in close quarters and maybe medium combat. Depending on the map and ow you play, you should choose different guns for every gamemode/map. You can’t just play with ARs all the time and expect to win, same with sub machineguns.
        5. I prefer the halftimes in Domination. It gave both teams a fresh start and a chance to capture the flags and make a comeback if they had a horrible start.

        • Guywithbrains

          2. I agree. But I meant that don’t make it like BO2 did. In Nuketown 2025 everyone just threw C4 explosives from windows to B-flag and killed me. When I did the same, I always got hitmarkers and then got killed
          3. 350-400 score UAV would be good
          4. Sub machine guns on long range should do less damage than it does in past Call of Duty games
          5. This thing has two sides. It has good and bad sides

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Yeah, but that’s Nuketown. Domination is all about teamwork. If you have a good team and run Flak Jacket or whatever the perk that protects you from explosives is, then you’re all set. It’s inevitable to loose if you’re rolling with a bad team. everything else, I agree.

          • Guywithbrains

            I run Flak Jacket and Tactical Mask and still get killed or totally flashed, even if enemy’s explosive/flash grenade is far away from me. When I do that to the enemy, nothing happens and enemy just kills me like nothing happened.

            I don’t have any people to play with, because all play different console. That’s why I always get to noob random team and I have to do all the work to get us victory. Sometimes I manage to do that, sometimes not. The worst case has been my team losing 0-200 and 101-200 in Terminal, where I get almost always spawn trapped to A-flag.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            The key to breaking a spawn trap is:
            1. kill one guy trapping a route
            2. flank behind them all
            3. ????
            4. Profit!

            Killstreak galore, especially if you hide for a sec and let them try to set up their spawntrap again, then kill them from the sides.

          • Guywithbrains

            I usually manage to make them rage quit in MW3 by running ACR with kick and silencer (doing the same as they do) and then I just enjoy hearing them rage in mics. Then I go to their tactical insertions and then suddenly whole enemy team leaves and we get triple cap to us and then we win. πŸ˜€

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            That was the ??? lol πŸ˜‰

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I hope TDM doesn’t become Barebones again, especially if they use the scorestreak system again. I want to play CoD without having to worry about playing objective game modes sometimes.

          • Run N Gunning Camper

            Just wondering, are you on PS4 by any chance? It sounds like you’re a TDM player.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I don’t play CoD on PS4, at least not yet. I play all game modes, but TDM when I want it a bit more stress-free.

          • Run N Gunning Camper

            I’m currently at the bad side of lag on the PS4. Whatever they did on the matchmaking is causing me to lose a lot of gunfights. I’m mostly a TDM player and i only venture into objectives during clan wars.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That sucks. I haven’t played Ghosts for months. When I played the multiplayer free demo a couple of months ago, the only lag that I experienced was frame rate lag, due to poor optimization/porting.

            I’m also mostly a TDM player. I hate that they ruined it on BO2.

          • Hostslayer

            Bo2 ground war was fun as hell

          • iβ™₯COD

            COD hasn’t officially arrived on Next Gen consoles yet, Ghosts doesn’t count.

          • Yes it has ‘Officially’ arrived. You may not like it, but look at Drift0rs video, ‘What Ghosts did right’. He speaks the truth.

          • Whoa

            “But when I did it” So just becuase you cant capture a flag now activision has to change it to your liking? A)get better at the game. B)play with a full party c)use a different strategy.

          • Guywithbrains

            I am way better than most of the teammates usually. I don’t have a chance to get full party, no one to play with and different strategy… I have tried flanking, running straight to them, even camping sometimes… not helping. MW2 had good map designs, even B-flag positions.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Maps don’t need to be colorful. It’s a war game.

        • jooker-jr

          We want to see the GRAPHICS !

          And I think everything in the future is colorful

          • Guywithbrains

            Black Ops 2 maps had great colors. πŸ˜‰

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Might be.

            Graphics =/= color.

        • cRi7iCaL

          But you should be able to distinguish an enemy from the environment. It doesn’t really add to the game if players just blend in with walls or rocks.

          • Guywithbrains

            MW3 had that problem specially in Downturn map. Those Delta Force’s soldiers was pretty much the same color as the environment.

          • cRi7iCaL

            It’s one of the huge negatives of IW that they try to emulate real life contrast. It’s realistic, yes, but we’re still playing the game.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            The lighting of the game can help, and the developers could have made the soldiers stand out. You don’t have to make characters stand out with color, it’s not Dance Dance Revolution.

        • Tom

          Yes, but grey maps are depressing and are not visually pleasing. Aren’t you happy with the gore when you kill a player and the blood splats everywhere?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It’s a war, it’s not supposed to be visually pleasing. High-end graphics are visually pleasing, not color. This isn’t a neon game with a bunch of flashing lights. I’d play Infamous SS for that.

          • Tom

            Well look how well ghosts did with its grey colour palette and that had great graphics.

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          Might as well be black and white with shades of green, cuz it’s a war game. Who needs color?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That’s the lore of the game, like it or not. War isn’t supposed to be visually pleasing. Ghosts got that right. Ghosts’s setting wasn’t colorful because it was a decayed America. Black Ops 1 wasn’t colorful because it was the Cold War/Vietnam.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Did you see the Ghosts DLC? For the most part, they basically changed the color palette of the game because people wanted color. I agree with yo on BO1, the colors fit that game. I think some maps should be really colorful, whereas others are grim. It depends on the setting of the map. But for the most part, people want colors. It doesn’t need it, but it looks better.

          • Hostslayer

            sounds like shitty mw3

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Exactly.

      • Tom

        I would say that the old sniping needs to be brought back. TTK increased. Smaller maps. Greater choice of assault streaks. Brighter maps – not grey.

        • Guywithbrains

          One shot kill snipers, TTK increased (MW3 and BO2 has both pretty good, maybe BO2 assault rifles feel little bit weak), MW2 map sizes are pretty good. πŸ™‚

          • Tom

            Also better spawns. Rewards, achievements ect to encourage you to play.

          • Guywithbrains

            I don’t want ever to prestige because I don’t want to unlock all weapon camos again. If we could have our camos for prestiges, I would go for prestige right away.

          • TomTom

            Don’t you keep your camos in BO2 and Ghosts anyway?

          • Guywithbrains

            I don’t play any of those two anymore. I always felt like MW3 was the best Call of Duty after MW2.

          • Tom

            I thought that too, it being the first COD I really go into.

      • Domination is my go-to gamemode, and if they made it like MW3 I would cri mayne! But I like the idea of halftime, because the maps are not symmetrical, one side may be slightly better. Half time pretty much evens that out, giving both teams a chance to try both sides of the map. And I agree with colorful maps. BOII did a GREAT job with the vibrant colors and tying that in with the futuristic look. Hijacked to me was a very clean, colorful map. But maps like Flooded look drained of color, and have trash EVERYWHERE! I know that it is part of the look, but it makes IED’s and C4 really hard to see. I like how on BOII Bouncing Betties actually had to be hidden, and did not look like ‘just another piece of trash’.

  • jordanxbrookes

    Wow, more people don’t want the game to be heavily influenced by eSports. Interesting, I wonder if Sledgehammer is paying close attention to this.

    • jooker-jr

      IMO it should because (IMO ) ghosts and bo2 are the most balanced in the series especially the perks . Yes we had the target finder and the very strong flak jacket in bo2 and the I.E.D and the stupid ghillie suit in ghosts but other than that it’s balanced

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      I preferred the 3 lane style of BO2 rather than the chaotic style of Ghosts. So I want it to be influenced, I suppose.

      • jordanxbrookes

        It all depends on the size of the map and whether or not, if it was a random style map, is it random in a good way? I’d say have a mix of it all, symmetrical, 3-laned and asymmetrical maps, along with some small, some big and most of them medium sized.

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          Yeah, that’s just something that really bugged me about Ghosts. Almost all of the maps were all over the place and had no layout. Don’t know about the DLC maps, but that was most of the core maps. I nice mixture would be good.

          • jordanxbrookes

            See a lot of Ghosts’ maps were random, but quite a lot of them were done in a bad way rather good. Example: Stonehaven – random in a bad way, Overlord: Random in a good way, at least for me it was, I like Overlord πŸ™‚

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Yeah, I liked WarHawk, that was a good one imo. Other than that, most maps were okay or bad besides a few others.

          • Mark Fortin

            so you want every map to be exactly the same

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            No, I want them to have some sort of layout instead of randomness everywhere. I said a mixture would be good.

          • Guywithbrains

            In every map I was like “okay which way is the shortest to the objective? Too much routes” Typical 3-line map design was good like MW3 did. πŸ˜‰

  • wtflolsmh

    Getting AW for the Xbox Won πŸ™‚

    • jordanxbrookes

      Same here, it’s exciting ain’t it πŸ™‚

    • MichiganerE

      Fuck that, I’m getting it for the Xbox Two and Nintendo 64! REAL Next-Gen consoles!

      ( Ν‘Β° ΝœΚ– Ν‘Β°)ο»Ώ

  • I wouldn’t mind if Advanced Warfare’s multiplayer offered all players the effects of Ready-Up, Quickdraw, Stalker, Dead Silence, and Resilience by default without having to equip a perk. That would make the MP experience faster paced and more unexpected.

    • LovekillerX

      You’re right. I have understood that there will be exosuit which can be upgraded by using points. For example you can put points to movement or something like that and you become faster. But this is just what I have heard.

  • Seven

    As long as ESPORTS dies out I’m good. I can’t beilieve people get that into a video game

    • exeterman2

      Esports influence should really help cod as it would make it go back to basics.

      • Fuck the basics, i got into CoD during MW3 and I went back to play CoD 4 since everyone told me that game was the best. I played it for 20 minutes and got back on MW3 because the gameplay was just so flat compared to what MW3 was offering.

        • exeterman2

          I find Cod 4 to have the best core gameplay, I think BO made the best out of additional features. 4 is 10x as fun as MW3.

          • I went back and played every CoD since CoD4 and I am a firm believer that excluding Ghosts, every CoD got better than the last one. I have more fun on BO2 than I would on MW2 any day.

          • exeterman2

            I can go back and play any cod and the worst 3 (in order of worst first) Ghosts, BO2, MW3. The rest are pretty much even.

          • Dude it just comes down to opinion. I think the old ones suck and the new ones except Ghosts are the best and your favorites are the older ones.

  • exeterman2

    With regards to the classic cod MP vs drastic changes question: I voted for drastic changes because I want it to go back to the old style of cod (4-BO1). I didn’t vote for the no changes option because ghosts has changed the way cod plays massively, for the worse.

    • Amen. That’s the one major thing Sledgehammer has going in their favor. Infinity Ward set the bar so incredibly low with Ghosts, it’d be a cosmic tragedy if Advanced Warfare turned out worse.

      • exeterman2

        The Eco suits etc will mean that it most likely doesn’t play like cod 4 but hopefully it will still be balanced and enjoyable.

  • Nick

    Not sure if this has anything to do with the eSports influence on AW, but i DO NOT want to see skilled based matchmaking. it simply made the game too frustrating at times in BO2. Although i did vote for AW being influenced by eSports because of balance in the game as well as keeping Call of Duty at its basics, because that’s what we love right?

    • jooker-jr

      Although I don’t want skilled based matchmaking in public matches, I would love league play to return from bo2

      • Nick

        oh absolutely. i didn’t clarify. i don’t want skilled based matchmaking in public matches. but yes i think it should stay in league play where it belongs, and there should be some type of league play option.

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

    My answers:

    -PS4
    -No
    -No
    -Yes
    -No

  • Snappy

    they honestly should put every Micro DLC and DLC in the season pass. that makes it worth it to buy. the season pass is basically useless if you don’t get all the DLC with it :/

  • Axel Noir

    What Treyarch, Infinity Ward, and Sledgehammer Games should do for dlc is weapons packs that include at least a few weapons for around between 3-5 dollars and the weapon can either be brand new or from past Call of Duty games.

    So if Battlefield can do it, so can Call of Duty !

    • jooker-jr

      Cool idea but 5$ dollars is cheap ( and Activision doesn’t like cheap things )

      • Axel Noir

        Well true. The maverick and the ripper are $4 each.

  • Antal120

    I would love to buy the game on PC but I’m really worried about a possible platform discrimination by Activision or Sledgehammer Games. I’m not just talking about early DLC or events…

    • ChubbyJim

      Infinity Ward are the only ones that don’t support the PC market very well plus porting terribly optimised games. Treyarch are excellent and Sledgehammer have all the attributes to keep the PC community happy. IW are just dreadful and clueless developers working with tinpot technology and having no knowledge of the top-end of the industry. Ghosts failed miserably on all systems but mostly PC and IW are solely responsible. Don’t let this detract you from getting this on PC as it’ll be much better than the next gen versions. I was tempted to get this on Xbox One but with all the framerate issues and terrible resolution; if you can get 1440p and at least 60fps+ on your PC; the only place to game is on there in all honesty.

      • jooker-jr

        I hope they learned their mistake

  • Michael

    I really surprise that people want theather mode back. I thought theather mode is what fucked up the hit detection in past cod games? I must say though, ghost did a good thing of taking out theather mode cause hit detection is WAY better then ever. But its also good to have theather to go back to your favorite gaming moments and stuff like that.

    • jooker-jr

      I don’t think any of the Devs confirmed that theater mode is reason for the lag

      If it’s then no. If it isn’t then why not.

      EDIT : also with the current gen I don’t need theater mode

    • George Claude

      nope ghost hit detection is still bad, but i want theater mode to save my beast gameplays

    • GodLikeLeftNut

      thats just the tick rate that CoD uses but i guess in a way because its tied to frames, theater mode reducing frames could in a way minor effecti registry like what drifter showed off with the mtar silenced not being LAN host has a faster TTK because of frame rate, but what you notist is more just crappy amount of data packets sent a sec

  • George Claude

    seriously…

    Are you open to drastic change when it comes to Advanced Warfare multiplayer for a new experience? OR do you prefer the traditional Call of Duty multiplayer with minor upgrades like years past?

    Im ready for a “new era”, big changes to multiplayer is good 72%

    I prefer classic Call of Duty multiplayer with NO drastic changes 28%

    As soon as they put big changes into mp, people will say “oh this doesn’t feel like cod” or “im not buying it, it looks too much like titanfall”

    • Xecho

      Yeah and some people that say they want changes are saying that want a traditional cod multiplayer. People on here are fucking stupid. Same goes with the majority of the CoD fanbase.

      • Please settle the calamity that is your mammary. Or in simple terms that YOU should understand, “Calm Yo Teets.”

        • Xecho

          I knew what you meant first time. And talking in bigger terms doesn’t prove anything really.

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      Well we’ve been having classic COD with no drastic changes for I think 10 games. I think it’s time to shake things up a bit for at least one game.

  • Ryumoau

    great poll, Charlie Intel! Only one that surprised me is that a majority of people don’t want multiplayer influenced by eSports. Why? I don’t understand why you would be against it, especially considering how big eSports is getting and how reliant CoD is on it to last longer.

    • I Just picked ‘no’ BEFORE I realized that it wasn’t required to answer. I really don’t care if it is or not.

  • IMO, I think the Personalization packs and the customization packs should be included in with the Season Pass. Since they don’t take that much to make as everyone says, I think the only people who should have to buy them should be people who didn’t want the DLC’s in the first place. People buy the goddamn Season pass for the DLC’s, and Weapon Camos are a DLC.

    • Josh

      When you buy season pass you are getting 4 map packs at a discounted price compared to buying them all separately. Customisation is not part of the deal, I don’t get why people don’t get this?

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

    I think everyone should vote for no Theater Mode, but that’s just me. It does, in fact, ruin the net coding in the game. The camera angles are inaccurate, so it’ll effect the game. If the host (implying that AW doesn’t have dedi’s) has Theater Mode on, then it doesn’t matter whether you turn it off or not. I like the cinematic YouTube content when it comes to Theater Mode, but wouldn’t you rather play a game that functions properly?

    So Black Ops 1 (which introduce TM), MW3, and BO2 having it and their games not functioning properly and Ghosts does is just a coincidence? We didn’t notice ANY net coding problems until BO1 came along. CoD 4, World at War, and MW2’s net coding/functionality were nearly flawless, at least in terms of the hit detection.

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      Indeed. Plus, with the new technology in PS4 and XB1, you don’t even need a capture card to record gameplay and upload to Youtube or share with your friends. Most people didn’t use theater mode much anyways. 90% of the games recorded, nobody went back to watch.

    • Run N Gunning Camper

      I was wondering about the same thing. Could it be that it’s causing problems because the last gens are not that powerful? Maybe the XB1 and the PS4 can handle theater with no ill side effects?

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        It really depends on what they want to do. If it’s the case of Ghosts, then they’ll have to dumb the game down for last gen. If that is the case, then I don’t see the issue with bumping the tikrate, adding Theater Mode, and have it not effect the core functionality. We’ll have to see.

        • Run N Gunning Camper

          I just hope we will get a good COD this year. I’m getting sick of Ghosts, They did something to the matchmaking and now I’m on the bad side of lag.

          ———————————————————————————

          I was wondering if this survey was suggested by SHG or was it entirely Charlie intel’s initiative?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Ghosts rarely lagged for me, but I can see your issue. Lying about dedicated servers has thrown me off of Infinity Ward games. I have seen no evidence of dedicated servers whatsoever. I hope we get a good CoD, too. We’ll have to see in August. I will take Nadeshot’s word that we’ll be blown away, however.

            I think it’s entirely Charlie Intel’s initiative, but the poll can be translated over to Sledgehammer so that they know that this is what a portion of the community wants.

      • Its not whether or not the consoles can handle it, its how it coded into the game.

  • GodLikeLeftNut

    59 perfect want cosmetic micro transactions? the fucks wrong with you guys lol

  • swagchagfag

    whats up with everyone wanting theater mode back can u guys not afford a fucking pvr or elgato

    • Retard!

      umm… you can record other people in theater mode and see how you died

      • Epicsand

        That is a good thing. That means OP strategies, equipment, weapons, and perks can exposed and spread more easily, making them less OP. Killcams let people see how they died without theater mode.

  • GodLikeLeftNut

    1:PC
    2:maybe but theater isnt reliable and probably reduces frame rate but we have OBS and shadow play anyway
    3:yes. sorry but from a decade of FPS gaming experience its this what makes the game work for EVERY ONE.
    4:Yes why not ^_^
    5:No include it in season pass’s or let us unlock or gamble for it

    • Guywithbrains

      People liked Black Ops 2… if I’m not wrong that game was made too by listening MLG players. So I don’t know what is all the complain about listening to MLG players. Okay, they should listen to casual gamers too and then see what are the features that both players have said.

      • GodLikeLeftNut

        agreed, DOTA CSGO and SC2 are all developed towards competitive and then added are gun game, arcade mode ect for those who dont but the game is still built around Esports.

        • Guywithbrains

          Although Black Ops 2 had a lot of bullsh*t, but it was pretty good because of small to medium maps.

          Let’s hope they doesn’t put emblem creator like Black Ops 2. I have seen enough pictures of penis, boobs and all that kind of childish stuff. Still, there were pretty cool and funny emblems too.

          • GodLikeLeftNut

            haha true but im that sorta guy that would draw a penis if i was given a pen n paper xD but emblem creator added some fun personalization and something to look at while you was waiting for the game to start xD some of them were pretty damn good too. shame they dont do a camo creator! oh wait they cant make money from that πŸ™

          • Guywithbrains

            Camo creator… now I would have a chance to make a troll face camo. I would put that to the most op gun in the game so people would get angry. Haha! πŸ˜€

          • GodLikeLeftNut

            haha equipment too! do it to a nade so in the kill cam is a flying troll face xD

  • Hayden Kirks

    bring back gameplay similar to the modern warfare series or black ops 2 because ghosts tried to change and look what happened to them

  • Verocious_Viper

    Did that 58% on the last question misread that? MICRO TRANSACTIONS! I sure as hell don’t want to see “Flag Pack for $3.99.”

  • Gump

    Right now I have a Xbox 360, but I will be transitioning to the Xbox One hopefully before the game comes out, therefore, I don’t know what to put for the first box.

  • 1. Xbox One
    2. Yes
    3. Yes
    4. Classic
    5. Yes

    • Freeze

      Unfortunately with the things you chose you would be happy with the same thing every year. 2-3 OP guns, basic, 3 lane maps, and 10% of the community making calls on what gets nerfed. We pub players would be also stuck playing this gray-scale repetitive, frustrating and lackluster game. We get no abilities like super jump, and cool things like the threat grenades. This would be great for a player who only cares about aiming and shooting. e-sports influence can be good in some ways, (ie getting many new players to buy cod, and provide $ to the players) but leaves the other 90% of the community behind as if it is superior (Neither are, they are both as important). One competitive player complains that the Vector’s TTK is way to high, and then it gets patched quickly. Thousands of casual players complain about the IED and it takes months to get fixed. I believe that all pros should be left to play just like any pub, (of course there would be respawn timers ext.). Just because they can play against each other without any of the BS. that is in pubs, who says they are better? A perfect solution would be something like league play. It would be a separate mode that:
      1. Allows any group of four to enter into 4v4 tournaments
      2. Forces pro teams to make it to a high division before they can compete
      3. Allows unknown players to have the possibility to play in pro tournaments
      4. Has certain restrictions that would represent esports rules, (this is saying they create restrictions)
      Keeping the two separate leaves the regular players without and hotfixes or help.

      Sorry to make such a long argument but there is a lot to point out.

      • I guess the game itself should not revolve around eSports. But an overpowered gun is an overpowered gun (Bizon, Vector). I think jumping high and scaling walls and all that other bullshit should be in the game itself, just disabled in eSports. That’s the only reason I said classic.

        • Freeze

          Sorry if I seem rude, as I do enjoy eSports myself.

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

    I hope Advanced Warfare gets a Singleplayer demo, it seems like next gen is putting out less demos than last gen, and that’d upset me.

    • kyr95

      I want a Single player trailer more than a MP right now. Is that a bad thing? πŸ˜›

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Actually, no. In fact, I want SP to be embraced MORE than MP, but of course, some people in the CoD community are ignorant, and fail to realize that SP is what molded and innovated the gaming industry.

        • kyr95

          Well you cant blame most of them since now when you hear Cod, you think about multiplayer. But i love what SHG is doing with the single player ( this to me could be the next gen Cod 4 ).
          That is why i love Cod in most instances more than most of the Battlefield games. For a FPS it has pretty damn good campaigns!

          • LovekillerX

            Agreed. I have played MW1, MW2, MW3, Black Ops 2 and Ghosts and all of them have really good campaign. I usually played more than once those campaigns because I really enjoyed those campaigns. When I get Advanced Warfare I rush into the campaign and start it right away. Can’t wait to see how Kevin Spacey plays his role. And of course other cool stuff in the game. πŸ™‚

            I don’t know about other guys here but I am waiting another trailer from the single player. Of course I am interested in multiplayer too but I’m way too hyped for story if you can put it in that way. πŸ˜€

  • micro dlc yes no to all the above

  • Would you like Treyarch to make more DLC packs for BO2?

    Me: Hell YES

  • baseballer59

    I think they need to make the new camos free, and if that is not possible, don’t include them at all. Activision already makes enough money from the cost of the game and all of the dlc so I don’t think more money should be forced out of us. Just look at what Turn 10 are doing with Forza Motorsport 5, they are bringing in ENTIRELY NEW TRACKS to the game for FREE. Also, ALL of the GTA Online updates have been free. They actually care about the community. I’ll admit that I really liked a lot of the camos that came out for black ops 2 and I liked some that came to ghosts, but they seriously shouldn’t be charging us for them. Just my humble opinion, reply if you have any more thoughts.

    • GodLikeLeftNut

      like i mentioned earlier with guywithbrain instead of diamond guns we get camo editor instead so we can make our own camo πŸ˜›

      • baseballer59

        A camo editor would be amazing!

  • Luis Someguy

    There can be Cosmetic Micro Dlc!However I STRONGLY fell they should rework the way these cosmetic are released and start IMPROVING THE SEASON PASS.Sorry for caps but i mean it dude.Why purchase the hardened edition anymore?They give everything right away!lol

  • Abraham

    Do you want classic gun fights to return (no more insta kill)?
    Do you want classic UAV to return?
    Do you want a simplified perk system with upgradable perks?
    Do you want user friendly maps (no more Pac-Man maps)?
    Do you want the campers best friend and worse nightmare to return (the tac insert)?
    Do you want a sniper only playlist?
    Do you want the classic specialist streak to return (rewarded with all perks)?

    • Freeze

      I liked the perk system in ghosts, and I liked the way specialist worked. Apart from that everything on this list is a yes.

    • yardis

      yes,no,no,yes,no,no,yes

      • What is good about the sat-com system?

        • yardis

          What’s good about the sat-com system?
          1. It’s easy to destroy/spot.
          2. I’m not forced to equip a launcher because teammates refuse to destroy them.
          3. I’m not forced to run stealth perks.
          4. It takes multiple sat-coms to get a scan. 1 sat-com only works if your teammates spot the enemy. 2 you get a sweep. 3 you get a faster sweep. 4 you get an Advanced UAV.
          5. Less spam. As you see from #4 it takes two sat-coms to get a scan, which slows down spam. instead of 2 or 3 kill uavs it takes 4-6 assualt or 6-8 support to get a sweep.

          • I say other wise, the uav has been in cod since cod 4 and no, you aren’t forced to run stealth perks, if they brought back stopping power everyone would run it (well, not everyone but a majority), and then you would actually be rewarded, uav, see the enemy positions on the map…

            And to say there is spam, you have obviously only played bo2 and ghosts, in bo2 at the start there was spam, I admit, but then they increased the score to which was needed to get one…

          • yardis

            I have been playing since MW2. In every CoD there has been 2 kill uavs which creates UAV spam. As for stopping power, stealth perks are stronger. If you can’t see me you can’t kill me.

          • uavs have only been 2 kills with hardline, one of the most worthless perks in comparison to sp and cb

          • yardis

            We are not talking about useful perks. We are talking about 2 kill uav’s. Which is possible in all CoD’s. Two kill uav’s create spam, and that is a problem. If they were to go back to the original uav’s they should at least use the ghost’s format were it takes multiple uav’s to get a sweep.

          • TO GET TWO KILL UAVS YOU NEED A SLIGHTLY SHIT PERK CALLED HARDLINE!!!!!!!

            There you go!

          • yardis

            So your counter argument is that I have to use a shit perk to get two kill uav’s? LOL The fact that the perk is “shit” has nothing to do with being able to get 2 kill uav’s. Apparently you don’t get the point, so I’m done replying to your stupidity.

          • you were talking about two kill uav spam

            so like you, I’m done!

    • MichiganerE

      1. Yes
      2. Yes
      3. Yes
      4. Yes
      5. No
      6. Yes
      7. Yes

  • Epicsand

    I do not care if they bring back cosmetic micro-transactions, but I do not want them to bring back DLC weapons. In Ghosts, on some maps, some of the DLC weapons are more effective than other weapons, so the people who bought them have an advantage over the people who did not, which is unfair, because it is something Activision did not say would be in the game before they released it.

    • EliteRage_YT

      I agree. I’m totally for DLC camos and character customisation, but no actual additions which could give others an advantage.

  • zezoish

    Playstaion nation forever!!!!
    Do you plan on getting Call of Duty Advanced Warfare for…
    Xbox One 36%
    Xbox 360 10%
    Playstation 4 38%
    Playstation 3 7%
    PC 9%
    Total votes: 2150

    • Bob Mit

      I had fun with the 360, but PS4 is the next gen console.

  • Timothy Dietrich

    Why are people AGAINST it favoring ESports? All that means is instead of banning a gun in conpetitive matches ( example being the FAL in Black Ops 2) they would just nerf it. And the rules would be the same, that way there is no difference between what people play, vs what the pros play. And actually, there is probably 60-70% of people who are someowhat into competitive. Whether it is just watching, or doing 8’s, or GB’S or the pros themselves. What would honestly be the negative side effects of making ESports a bigger thing???

    • Freeze

      But when the are similar, it mean pub players also have very limited fun. We must play without claymores, c4, ect, and cannot see innovation, just they same game with different graphics and slightly modified engine.

      BTW sorry to say this so many times to other people.

      • Precisely. You start having that Esports influence pollute everything, and it’s what they want, how they believe it should be.

        Until those supposed “professional” players start giving me sixty bucks for the game that I paid for, I don’t need their idiocy changing things and telling me how to play.

        • Freeze

          And limiting how I play.

    • Let’s say that 60 to 70 percent of people are at least somewhat into competitive gaming. Esports, MLG, etc. I’m proud then to be part of that 30 to 40 percent that doesn’t care to have their games dictated and altered by groups of overpaid kids playing those same games.

    • Less support for the majority of CoD players. Pro players are like Earth and the Casuals are like the Solar System. The casuals are the ones who deserve the support, not the pros.
      Take Ghosts for example. That game could have been fixed by January but instead we got 5 patches in a row that fixed the CoD Esport settings for private match. I have about 60 people on my friends list who play CoD. They could give 2 shits and less than a fuck about that.
      Now yes I understand that Pro Players do give CoD the publicity but honestly, I don’t see the enjoyment of the game in competitive. I just see people trying to win through gun skill and teamwork. I could sit through BO2 competitive because they actually allowed lethal killstreaks.
      All you see IW tweet out nowadays is just competitive crap. Its honestly what I believe to be one of the many downfalls Ghosts had.
      They could have nerfed the IED, fixed TTK, spawning, fixed Amplify earlier, etc. And instead, we got worthless patches for private match settings.
      Now yes BO2 had good support for pros and casuals but that was just a one time thing. Ghosts dropped the ball, I’m hoping SHGs can find a happy medium like TreyArch did.
      That’s why I am against it, but it may not be the same reason for others.

  • vicedvick

    Us esports fans would appreciate it alot if you guys would vote for the game to be centered around esports <3 it would make for a more balanced, competitive game that we all can enjoy :D.

  • Frank

    Yes i want multiplayer to be influenced by eSports … if you say no to that something wrong with your head …

    • JRogers23

      esports is killing COD

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      You’re an idiot.

    • Freeze

      Again, as I said to @disqus_Elj1tTH5Gb:disqus , The esports leaves everyone using a select few OP guns, and keeps repetitive maps, and no innovation. I would love to see maps that are very small in width and height but have many levels, like a skyscraper that has like 10 levels. If you want esports just play cod4, cod6, cod8 over and over because a game with just esports would not be a new experience at all. Just play the old cods or live with innovation, because many people in pubs are sick of the same old thing.

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)
  • Ogawa

    YAY!

  • Muszic

    I’m actually surprised about the results of the Esports question. People say the Esport community is like 10% of the whole COD community but this is proving otherwise. Great to see it.

    • Freeze

      It is 10% of the community, It’s just that esports fans are much more involved than casual players, so they are a bit over 50% of the CI community.

  • Ogawa

    YYAAYY!

  • Christopher McMillan

    why isnt wii u an option?

  • Ok, if you seriously have a problem with cosmetic DLC, you need to just need to realize, it doesn’t matter. I buy some of the camos and skins because I liked them and wanted them. But you know what, I wasn’t forced. I saw what I wanted and I bought it. If we apply your arguements to everything instead of camos, skins, voice overs, etc. you think everything should be free. That isn’t how the world works. This is the impression I get when you use that arguement:
    You paid for the game that brought the defaults, yes? *yes*
    And you are ok with DLC maps, right? *yes*
    How is these micro DLC packs any different? *because they are ruining the game*
    How? *because Activision is stealing your money*
    I am willingly giving my money in return for a cosmetic DLC. That’s not stealing my money. And how is Activision making money like any other company ruining the game? *Because it doesn’t cost any money to make and it should be free*
    So the guy that designed the camo, reticle, skin, patch, and background and the person who mapped them onto the solider or gun wasn’t paid? Did they not pay to push out the patch that added them to the game? Besides, is anyone forcing you buy it? *no they didn’t pay them and it didn’t take any time at all. and, um…. no one is… umm. forcing me to… uh…. buy it*
    If you answers to my questions line up to the answers I typed in the asterisks, you need a reality check. EVERYTHING costs money. No one is forcing you buy it. It isn’t pay-to-win. It is just there as an option for those who aren’t happy with default camos, skins, reticles, etc.

    TL;DR Grow up and just accept that everything cost money and no one is forcing you to buy it.

    • GodLikeLeftNut

      true though ectra class slots is something that should be free. but the problem with micro transactions is that more and more games are
      becoming f2p or subscription based and adding micro transitions onto them so without youll get level capped only be able to play on 2 maps unable to unlock challenges to get camos ect unless you become a member n shit, plus
      micro transactions and in the end youll end up paying Β£100plus a year
      just to get the full game let alone DLC.. course not anytime soon but this is were developers are slowly trying to head towards. its a business and business is all about money

      • While I agree that extra class slots should be unlocked through the game instead of money, it doesn’t change the gameplay at all. If a micro DLC can achieve that, I’m fine with it. Now if its a pay to win thing, then that’s when I’ll stand against it. But CoD isn’t doing that. Its simply adding things to the game as options for gun skins.
        Devs aren’t just going this direction just for the money, they are doing this to add longeivity. They don’t release all the maps because it would be old within a few months. Add a few new maps every few months is how they add this longevity, the mirco DLC is just a thing to change things up a bit with a new camo, reticle, etc.
        Take GTA V for example. They are putting out DLC to make the game last longer. Let’s be honest here, as fun as GTA is, that game would have gotten old by December. DLC is just a way for devs to get people to play their game for a longer period of time.

        • GodLikeLeftNut

          the point im saying is that some games are going to become so locked down itll be like a demo and speaking of demo EA tried charging for fifa 14 demo.. iRacing is a perfect example of what im saying where you pay a membership to play but you have like 4 tracks and 4 cars if you want more you have to purchase individually. in CoD terms if you want to use better more guns and camos and maps and gear you have to join membership lobbys ect and for games to last longer? A CoD comes out every year isnt that not enough? xD. im not saying right now or anytime soon but dont be surprised if this happens.

          • I doubt they will do that, I don’t see them doing that. I think all the CoD devs understand that camos don’t affect the game and people really like them, so they just do more of that. Ghosts probably already has twice the amount of camos BO2 did for micro DLC. But that membership game you mentioned, can you earn the rest, or is it strictly pay to get? If its like Warframe, where I can earn everything, then I see no problem but if its pay to have the rest of this shit, then thats where I draw the line.

          • GodLikeLeftNut

            aha maybe i have trust issues since ghosts xD and nope totally pay to get :/ well im fairly sure, might be able to win a couple of things

      • Xecho

        Truth about extra class slots shouldn’t be free. Play enough free to play FPS and you will understand.

    • *claps and nods slowly*

  • Jamie McDonald

    The debate if certain micro-items should be in the game from th start really boils down to how significant it is to the gamer who buys it. If the item gives the gamer a cleear advantage then I think personally it shouldn’t be allowed and should be either dis-continued or put in thee game for universal use. Camos, character skins and other personilzation effects are harmless, they add fun to the game, for me they kinda strip the game of its seriousness, but for some they can be refreshing.

  • VAQnotVAG

    Where’s the option that says “I’m not going to buy this game, I’m tired of futuristic shooters!”

    • Xecho

      Where the category of no one cares about you lies. People want to go back to WW1 or 2 but people forgot about Call Of Duty 1 to World at War were all WW2 besides CoD4 By the time CoD4 came in people were tired of WW2. Too many people have forgotten about it or majority of CoD players are new which makes me irritated.

      • VAQnotVAG

        It just seems like they’re trying to make it into Halo or Titanfall. I don’t see the room for so many games in that same category. I agree that they had a lot of games about the past but they broke it up with the Modern Warefare games so it didn’t feel repetitive to me. Now this will be the 3rd future game in a row. I just won’t buy it, it has no appeal to me

      • VAQnotVAG

        My lies? What did I lie about exactly? It’s my opinion. Just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t make it a lie lol.

  • YourOpinionIsIrrelevant

    Micro transactions are an awful addition to the game… Camo’s should be unlocked through increasingly difficult/ time consuming challenges to increase the overall replay-ability. Am I the only person who misses the grind for red tiger? 15 kills shortly after sliding is not an adequate camo challenge.

  • Sentinel

    It’s an option, you ain’t forced to get them. Like most of us agree, it doesn’t affect the gameplay at all. It adds swag to your character and weapons customization to show off in gameplay. You might see it as, an I quote “squeeze as much coins as you can from the consumer” but in reality, it is not bullshit. Step out of the box and see things from a different perspective. They invest a lot of money making these game and now more than ever that Activision owns 3 different Studios. It takes money to make everything possible in a game from motion capture to music composition and much more. Why? to give a great experience to the CoD fan base, shit ain’t free bruh! Micro transactions was a smart business move in making more profits out of the game. After all they work hard, almost no sleep to give us, the community, an awesome game experience. For that, I support their effort. Can’t wait what they have for weapon camos thoe! It’s all just business bruh, as usual, to sustain a successful company and to keep it’s studios running for future games installments. The gaming industry it’s growing!

    Note: This applies to all who disagree with micro transactions. If you liked a camo but don’t want to spend $1.99 on it because you want it for free! Go buy a piece of candy instead, yeah it’s not free either. Stay bitching bout it in the back of the line along with the others waiting for Activision to give a fuck. Is you mad? Stay mad. hahaha

  • I only voted yes for the camos because I imagine that advanced warfare isn’t trying to make cheap rip offs of the black ops 2 camos like Ghosts did.

  • The Telephone Pole

    Any reasons for not having a theatre mode?

    • LovekillerX

      People are saying that it causes some problems with hit detection but there is no proof from it. I didn’t notice any problems with MW3 and there my playtime is over 30 hours. I liked the idea that when I got MOAB or some cool “rampage” I could take video from it and show it to my friends.

      I don’t really like those capture cards and I wouldn’t pay from these cards. It is more simple that developer puts theater mode there. I have taken so many videos that every slot is taken and I always have to wonder what to remove or replace haha! πŸ˜€

      • I had a really bad connection in MW3, turned off Theater Mode, I cleaned up and it got playable.

      • GodLikeLeftNut

        Dosnt new gen consoles have PVRs in them now anyway? xD

        • Mitch

          They do, but with Theater you can do a lot of things you can’t with those recording those.

  • ζœ‰θΏ™εœ¨ε£

    Do people realise that weapon and camo dlc are already preinstalled and locked onto the disc? Thats why you can pick them up off the ground ingame without loading time… When you buy the game full price you technically have bought every piece dlc that comes out. All your doing when you buy it is paying to unlock it. That’s why its a scandal… Because your paying to pay more.

    • Ed

      They add the camos in with updates.

  • ζœ‰θΏ™εœ¨ε£

    CharlieINTEL write about how the seasonpass should contain all the Microdlc them more people would get it!

  • sonny

    Lets put micro dlc into perspective
    Full game = $60.00
    1 camo. = $2.00
    30 camos = $60.00

    Im pretty sure if you layed out the area of all 30.camos onto the.floor of a map it wouldn’t begin to cover a fraction of it.

    How large of a workforce do you need to create a new cod? 200+ people. Work force for camos? Maybe 1-3 graphic designers…

    From a business perspective it works because people are thick enough to pay for them. From an ethics perspective its disgraceful. If we are to pay for camos they should be cheap as chips like $0.10 or $0.50 max.

    • Xecho

      What type of chips?

  • Jody Clark

    I shun everyone who said no to esports focus…sigh you don’t understand what that means for the game if they do. In short a more balanced game…which equals more fun.

  • xmaccabix

    No one can really have an issue with Cosmetic camos and cosmetic dlc as its entirely optional , if you dont agree with them dont but them simples. If CoDAw has another slots type dlc like ghosts did then I will speak with my wallet like I have done in ghosts and not buy a single mdlc as the slots dlc was an insult to the cod community.

  • GodLikeLeftNut

    doesnt the xbox one and ps4 have PVR and some sort of editing too? so wouldn’t that just make theater pointless?

    • JimVincent

      That still wouldn’t show the other players’ POV like Theater does.

  • Guzzo

    Xbox One has most going to play on. Woop woop. More people to destroy on MP.

  • The reason Ghosts doesn’t have theatre mode.. Because IW knew just how bad the spawn system was prior to release. The broken spawn logic would be on YouTube for all to witness.

  • Auptyk

    The idea of Micro-Transactions is always going to be a hot topic and I think that it all depends on how the company handles it that makes the difference. Treyarch’s Black Ops 2 and Gearbox’s Borderlands 2 did this perfectly. Infinity Ward’s Ghosts did it totally wrong and I think that is what has lead to arguments like that at the top of this comment board.

    Prior to Ghosts players had become accustomed to 10 classes, or the ability through in game actions to earn up to 10 classes. Then Ghosts launched with 6. Odd choice, but I didn’t see a problem with it until they charged me 3 dollars to get the other 4. Whether or not it is true, the PERCEPTION from the players was we just bought something that should have been in the game at launch.

    While it may not be fair to hold Sledgehammer against the actions of it’s predecessors and peers, that is the fact of life they live with given the series they are developing for. They can’t deliver LESS in some areas, and then charge us to get back up to what we consider what a base CoD should have. We need to feel like we got everything out of the game and DLC takes it that next step. Furthermore, with a three year development cycle, they should have no excuse not to achieve this level.

    /On a side topic: While CoD is my favorite FPS game and I put copious amounts of hours into it… DLC is always lacking compared to it’s primary competitor Battlefield. The maps we get are good for sure… but that is typically all they are. Battlefield DLC packs add so much more, Guns, Camos, new Vehicles, and of course maps. I would like to see the same (minus vehicles) with the DLC packs in CoD. A pack could be 4 MP maps, a Gun, two DLC oriented camos, and a character skin. I dont know… just a thought.

  • BHCMax

    why didn’t you ask if we wanted ranked clan run servers return on PC version?

  • Underdog BO1 FTW!

    I can’t wait to buy PS4 for Future cods and exclusives All multiplayer games on PC die too fast. Can’t find any gamemods except TDM and Dom, If lucky enough i can find FFA or S&D with bunch of snipers clan.
    Most PC’s gamers only play Free to play games or Counter strike

    • GodLikeLeftNut

      its just popularity unfortunately. and the console comunity are clueless about what mods and servers have to offer.. BO1 have a few good FFA SnD sniping servers which are always busy (Y)

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

    *facepalm* I’m really hoping that this poll doesn’t accurately represent the CoD community. If so, then that’s upsetting. So preposterous.

    • Run N Gunning Camper

      I don’t get it either. If the pro community will have their way, they will ban half of what the game offers.

  • GodLikeLeftNut

    75% for new gen consoles and 83% want theater… i know for sure ps4 has a shadow recording of some sorts and editing built in.. think about it… either a lot of people are lying or a lot of people havent a clue.

  • I wish you would have had one more poll: “Do you want to see micro transactions for guns” to return for Advanced Warfare.” (aka where you only get the gun if you pay extra). I for one do not want to see that. If it can effect gameplay, everyone should have it for free. Guns do that, camos don’t. I’m okay with camos being micro transactions, but not guns, equipment, perks, etc. Pretty soon the list of guns will be smaller and if you want the others you have to pay extra…

  • @SiftBlade – Honestly, I see why people don’t want these cosmetics in the game. These people believe everything should be earned rather than run down through. To be honest, I support skins and camos and enjoy them as well. But I see that it is basically a rip-off for your money but I don’t quite see how it rips games apart.

    @Shady – I 100% am agreeing with you. Skins / Camos have no effect on the gameplay mechanics at all and do not overpower weapons and the such. They don’t rip apart of games and are just for decoration or like you said, for “lazy people who don’t feel like going through challenges”

    @TheShadowReaper – Please explain how camos and skins are ripping the game apart. Please, that makes no sense at all.

    • Finally, someone with sense here. I tip my hat to you sir, just expect these two fucknards to insult you and try to prove their point with a completely invalid one and then insult you again. Its really all they can do at this point.

      • Yes, this is true. I find the “rip game apart” point the least sensible.

  • Ripper

    Where is wii u

  • jack

    fuck esports

  • Matt jones

    i dont want new changes cuz IW tried and failed

  • siddhant

    I want pro perks and specially slieght of hand pro should be there
    And we shouldnt be forced to use toughness or i wont buy
    Give us small gud well engineered maps and pro perks
    Or we wont buy we have destiny ( the masterpiece)
    Pls convey this msg guys pls…….

  • steven hill

    Please remove quickscoping. It completely ruins multiplayer. Every game after black ops 1 has had quickscoping and the games have gotten worse because of the overpowered snipers

  • baghsvfgwhvfahkfbak

    Its a game calm down

  • zINz_FURY

    http://youtu.be/zKQUBnqcFEM

    Watch the vid… it may shed some light on the shit storm happening in the comments. As with most things in life, the issue isn’t black and white, more of a gray.

  • elijah

    i just love how so many people say they are ready for drastic changes to call of duty, if I’m not mistaken call of duty ghost just tried that and failed, you guys are not going to like what you get out of this. when the games comes out and you hate it do not complain because it’s what you wished for. I think its best if they leave the game alone. It was better and more people were willing to play it when it was the traditional call of duty, and if you don’t believe me check the player numbers on ghost, mw3, and BO2, ghost hangs very far behind but the point is that is what happens when “drastic changes occur”.

    • KevJumbaify .

      what the heck did ghosts change? nothing. im sorry about i dont want the same cod with the same guns and same perks with new maps every year. i want a change which is why im excited for AW

      • KevJumbaify .

        im seriously wondering what did ghosts change. they had the same guns and same perks.

        • elijah

          im guessing you just can’t read. you were just informed about what they changed. dude you’re saying same guns same perks i didn’t mention not one thing about a gun in my comment. and the guns and perks does not make up the game, because if that were true why not put rocket ships in the game so idiots like you can be satisfied? because it’ll be stupid lol theres always going to guns and perks same ones or not you’re still going to get them, what you’re saying is equivalent to saying 2k basketball has the same basketball and basketball rims every year, well duh its basketball you’re going to continue getting the same thing with better graphics and maybe a few new ideas. if you stop putting perks or guns in the game and or putting perks in that allow your character to fly its not even call of duty anymore, and as i said before if you don’t feel that ghost didn’t change anything go check the online comparison with ghost and previous call of duty games. its barely keeping up with modern warfare 2, and with that information my friend you’ll know that they changed something even if you’re not going to accept the fact that they changed the game, you’ll know they did something wrong, and if you’re thinking that that something wrong is the same guns and perks over and over again you have no common sense, because for that to be true the rest of the call of duty games would not have been as popular as they were.

      • elijah

        they changed the game completely. if you didn’t notice how field orders, leaning and other bullshit came from battlefield. thats what they changed and not to mention the over sized maps the horrible killstreaks that hardly did anything or the almost 50 useless perks they loaded into the game. i could keep going if you like but its a waste of time, lol if you actually played call of duty you’d already know that for one it was the least favored call of duty ever made and has received more hate than any other cod also, not to mention the sales, point is that is what happens when you “drasticlly change call of duty”. id rather have that same old cod we were already getting versus getting another call of duty ghost

  • monkeyninja

    really they should have said no then it would be better

  • Scifiction

    How can esports be 50/50 lol esports should be 100% 50% of kids are bad

  • Costas Liberis

    i wish this poll was 18+ just like the game should be… 60-80 euro (game/editons) + 50 euro (season pass) + 50 euro (ps4/xbox online pass) + 50 euro (all mini dlcs) = 210 euro to play a game that lasts 1 year! NO TY! the only way to buy another cod is to remove all those mini dlcs with weapons,camos etc. I ll stick with Destiny for this year. i bought it from psn with all extras and both expansions only 100 euro and i know it will be better