Editor’s Note: This is just an opinion piece on what we think are the possibilities of Advanced Warfare Multiplayer. No official MP details have been announced yet. 

Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare’s futuristic setting introduces lot of a new gadgets and vehicles to the game. As of now, we’ve only seen these new technology in action in trailers and Induction mission. But we wanted to explore the possibilities on how this could relate and be brought over to multiplayer.

Mobile Barricades

As shown in action in the Future Tech BTS video & in the Induction video, mobile barricades are a brand new way to get cover fast and easily. These barricades are simple to use – you walk up to it, it syncs with your character. Once it’s synced, the shield automatically comes down when you aim your weapon to shoot. Now, this could be used to replace riot shields, or these could be placed in certain places around the maps in MP. We feel like SHGames could be giving these barricades their own health level; once it’s damaged enough, it breaks and you loose that cover.

Hover bikes 

Hover bikes are a new class of vehicles for Call of Duty. We’ve never had ground vehicles in multiplayer before – except in Call of Duty: World at War with the tanks. There’s many ways that hover bikes could be implemented into MP. One way is via a kill streak reward; once you earn this reward, you can use it around the map, and it should have a machine gun attached to it. Of course, it has to be balanced in that it has to have a counter to it for those without it (like RPGs or shooting it down).

Threat Detection Grenade 

The threat detection grenade was shown in action in the Induction mission as well as in the Future Tech BTS video. This allows you to throw a grenade and it’ll detect where all the enemies are near by, even revealing their position when behind cover. Many people would be quick to draw the conclusion that this will be over powered in the sense that it can reveal all the player’s locations, but there’s probably gonna be a way, easy way, to counter it. Maybe a perk system (note: it’s unclear if and how a perk system will be in AW MP) with a certain perk – like in previous Call of Duty games – that’ll allow you to remain hidden from these grenades.

Walking / Hover Tanks 

Another big part of Advanced Warfare is the hover tanks and the walking tanks. We saw the walking tank in the Induction mission, and in the E3 missions they showed behind closed doors, we saw a hover tank in action. These are really powerful machines – with plenty of arsenal and types of weapons to use. Here’s another instance where we feel like this will become a kill streak reward for players that earn it.

This is just some of the technology and gadgets that we’ve seen so far. Sledgehammer Games has said that the gadgets will not be over powered in the game and that everything will be balanced.

Let us know what you think about gadgets and vehicles in MP and give us feedback on what else you would like us to go in depth on in the comment section below! 

 

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  • i hope the mobile barricades are either a killstreak or a campaign only equipment

    • Mitch

      I’m hoping for a killstreak. No running when active, but once you die you lose it.

      • Kenny Alexandre

        Lol not bad of a kill streak there lol

    • Guest

      I think it should be equipable in create a class but there should also be a perk to counter it for example if you have the perk equipped when a person with a barricade tries to aim specifically at you the shield shouldn’t drop.

      • a

        I don’t think you should have to use a perk to counter equipment, maybe a piece of equipment to counter it, perhaps something that causes destroys the shield like emp grenades did to trophies, sentries etc in BO2

    • ccrows

      +1 to this, and no to CI with vehicles for AW (or really any other COD game).

      I’m calling it right now, if AW ends up having too many changes and gimmicks in MP, it’s gonna kill the game.

      The majority of people that would still be playing it would be squeakers…

  • xmaccabix

    “We’ve never had ground vehicles in multiplayer before – except in Call of Duty: World at War with the tanks.” erm motorbikes with side cars were in cod multiplayer before

    • Mitch

      When people talk about ‘CoD’, they generally talk about CoD4 and beyond because CoD4 started it all.

      • TheTempestFenix

        Tbh, I dunno how that would work. We’d need big maps to give the bikes sufficient space to maneuver.

        • thats why I think hoverbike in mp=no but walking tank or hover tank = yes. Tanks are slow. They dont need to turn constantly because they keep hitting stuff like walls

      • Grenada!

        CoD 1 started it all. If there wasn’t a CoD1, then I’m afraid to say that CoD4 would never of existed.

        • a

          CoD4 is the game that brought such a big following compared to previous titles

      • Majorbludd

        COD 1 won tons of awards and was voted game of the year. Sold millions of copies.

      • Carrisi

        Agree totally, COD4 was the COD Father

        • bob loblaw

          CoD 4 was the first title to bring perks to the game. By manually placing imbalance in the game play via perks they made the game way more accessible, hence the main stream success. Basically it was the start of the downward spiral for the now gimmick laden franchise.

    • jordanxbrookes

      Call of Duty 3’s Motorbikes :O

    • Grenada!

      CoD 3 had vehicles in its MP. I would love to see vehicles in AW as it will spice up the usual run and gun gameplay. Not on every map, maybe like 4 or 5 maps with vehicles.

  • jooker-jr

    I think the treat detection grenade should only reveal campers.

    EDIT : like the millimeter scanner from bo2.

    • HenryDF

      So you can’t be detected if you’re moving? Yeah, that’d be good.

      • MR_WATSiT2YA

        Yeah like ghost perk in bo2

        • Pathetic.

          Yea but you are fucking invisible here

          • MR_WATSiT2YA

            Wtf did I do to you asshole?

          • Henk

            Dafuq?

          • Pathetic.

            ? Im sorry if i insulted you in some way lol

          • MR_WATSiT2YA

            Sorry I misunderstood your comment or something ha

    • MichiganerE

      ^ This.

    • Grenada!

      YES

    • TheShadowReaper

      reveal non moving targets (aka campers) and briefly highlight moving targets. i would dig that more than just a grenade for “revealing campers duh!”.

      • jooker-jr

        I think it will be op because if it highlighted everyone all the players will use it.

        • TheShadowReaper

          if it is for a brief moment, lets say 0,5 seconds, i would hardly call it op.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Nah, it displays an enemy’s position, it’s like the Target Finder/Marksman Pro. And it’s just as OP. The targets show, at least in the SP, for around 5 seconds, and they stay red for a bit, or at least that just happens with the shield.

          • TheShadowReaper

            the difference is that and target finder is that you can use target finder all the time unless you are dead! using a grenade once every life that reveals enemies briefly is like using 5% of target finder, which is the best way to balance it. + this is AW! *kicks him off a well*

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Still, you get Marksman Pro for 5 seconds, and maybe for a little bit of time afterwards (I am unsure). Still, you get to see multiple people and they shine red for 5 seconds, whereas there’s just a diamond on the Target Finder (The TF, however, is the worst idea I’ve ever seen).

          • TheShadowReaper

            as i told earlier, if it reveals moving targets for just 1 second its perfectly balanced. its a great device for anti-camping strategies and is limited as an option. whereas you can hold down your sights all the time like a little bitch.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Well, we don’t know what it’ll do, or if it’ll even be in the game. If this were the case, and you have to be stationary, then I would be all up on SH’s dick and praising them, but you know, CoD logic. They always have to put some bullshit in to let the little kids exploit.

            We can both agree that the Target Finder is the dumbest idea ever on CoD. Or one of the dumbest. Noob tubes are overpowered in MW2, but at least they don’t REVEAL YOUR FUCKING POSITION lol.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        How about “PLEASE BASED SH NO THREAT DETECTION AT ALL”?

    • Ed

      it would probably be a super brief period of time it would work, and i’m betting there will be some sort of counter to it, anyways.
      so no. i don’t think they should give tools to favor one method of playing over the other. that’s what bops2 did wrong, imo.

    • Send Campers to the Gallows

      I say if someone is camping in the game overall for more than 2 minutes, that specific camper should be highlighted on the mini-map and can be seen through walls. Plus make that person stay highlighted so players can hunt them down and get extra XP lol

      • fires

        sounds really bad in game modes like SnD. However, implementing the system for high killstreak players on like 15-20 streaks, should maybe blink their location– like the MVP target ability in BF4 Commander

      • That would never work. You’d just have to move the analog stick a bit a boom timer reset

      • Dot Chaser

        F$%k You … yo low life pacman dot chasing asshole!!!

        You cant do a f$%king thing without a mini map, sorry excuse for a player!!!

        I can’t do anything, they are camping, it’s over powered!!!

    • or maybe it can only reveal 1 or 2 people at a time depending on the range

  • bsktballmsu1

    Can’t wait til august for the mp reveal so CI will have something relevant to post.

    • sadly, it’s true at this time of the year

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      I hate that e-Sports guys saw it before us. Bullshit.

      • TheShadowReaper

        i still dont get why you’re angry that they saw it before us. on the other hand i see them as very unlucky. cause they will have something to talk about that they CANT talk about. also, it changes nothing that they saw it early. so…what is the point of hating them? i smell jelly…

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          I smell bias.

          It’s not about being jealous (although that may be the case :/ jealousy is a good reason for being angry, they saw a game I want to see early), it’s about a minority getting special treatment over the majority that actually give the company their profits. I’d understand YouTubers, but not the competitive guys, because their community is full of arrogant dickheads. People like OpTic are people I support, though, not pieces of shit like EG and FaZe. It’s cool that Nadeshot and BigT got to see it because they’re genuinely good people. I just don’t want to wait months while they don’t. I really don’t like Activision (it’s because of them).

          • TheShadowReaper

            i dont care if you think that i’m biased or not but, i’m all about the gamer at the end of the day and i dont see how this affect me or you.

            i really dont care about Faze, Optic, whatever…a few fucks given about Curse and EG. (they play LoL) but i dont understand all this drama “this guy is good, or this guy is bad – i dont like him” affect COD gamers at all. they saw something earlier than you. and? so what? how is this bad? and its not like they dont deserve it or anything, they are professional E-Sports players. if you want to see something SO bad and cant wait one more month to see it why dont you try for pro player? see how easy it is to become one.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It doesn’t really affect me, as long as they don’t threaten me or actually do something to harm me, then it really isn’t that important. In the gaming world, however, it is important, at least to me. I don’t think it’s something that we should ignore.

            Well, earlier looks at multiplayer over us mean a couple of things. One of them is that this means special treatment, which also means that they’ll start giving them EXCLUSIVE things in favor of them over us. We’ve already seen this, like weapon patches in favor of competitive, instead of listening to the casual community. What gives them the ability to do so?

            I’d rather not be one, because I don’t want it to change my attitude like it did to a lot of people. But anyone can be a pro if they play for 8 hours a day.

          • TheShadowReaper

            “it doesnt actually affect you but you dont think that its something you should ignore?” hmm…ok, sure mate.

            special treatment to certain people in the video gaming world has been here from the early 90’s where people that were considered “hardcore” and such were invited to take a look at games and actually give advise to developers. its not a new thing, it has been here for decades! the difference here is that you fear E-Sports players because they actually have a name and are popular among thousands of people, unlike the certain hardcore people back in the day that were popular among dozens.

            what gives them the ability to do so? ahaha! damnit…did you really asked that? Activision, Sledgehammer and every one like you and me that watches streams and made them popular gave them the right to be in that position. but its not like they will change the game to THEIR desires. the developer and publisher make the calls. they just call them there to make them popular and in return the crowd that follows them turn their eyes on what they were doing. namely – AW. a grand Activision plan, dont you agree? what is laughable though is that nobody understands that these people dont have any power over the game. the patch notes that happened, IW made the changes not E-Sports people. if you want to bitch about it dont turn to the competitive players, turn to IW and Activision if you dont like some changes. i cant believe people make SUCH a big deal of some patch notes. you guys are being silly. but then again, that’s 95% of the COD community so i’m not surprised. on the other hand, i’m disappointed.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Yes, I’ve looked at this objectively before. I don’t mind guys like OpTic heading over the studios. It’s more of a mixed reaction. The guys like Scump, Nade, and BigTymer seem like good people to me, and I don’t mind if they see CoD. As long as it isn’t people like FaZe members, again, then I’m cool with it. I’m aware that YouTubers have gotten favored treatment, we saw that with Ghosts. They saw the multiplayer trailer and e-Sports guys even saw the game last year, and they even spoke negatively about it. I just don’t want favored FEATURES given to them, like them seeing things that we don’t get to see, and things like patches and level design in favor of them. A good CoD game isn’t a good e-Sports CoD game, and that’s what these people need to learn to understand. A good core CoD game, is a good CoD for all. e-Sports guys see heavily dumbed down features compared to what me and you play. It’s extremely significant.

            They have a name with merely a million followers, compared to the actual majority, that’s nothing to really brag about. If they had 10 million followers, then that’s where I would agree, but they’re insignificant in my mind. They have no right to be favored over the majority. Features shouldn’t be removed or added because of them, but because of us. They don’t listen to us because we have a bigger outspoken voice over them. We see people cussing at Tina and Vahn, that’s only because they don’t do their jobs and they favor competitive over us. They don’t deserve any kind of position because they’re “popular”. Ali-A has a cult following of 5 million people, but I don’t want him seeing CoD early, even though he has because he has a biased channel. It’s not up to me, those idiots watching those streams are their fault, not mine. I don’t think you understand the arrogance behind competitive, watch Keemstar’s Drama Alerts, you’ll recognize what I’m talking about. They have the attitude and mentality of a 12 year old trick-shooter fapping to FaZe montages. Would you excuse people like FaZe? They literally act the same way that a lot of competitive guys do. And competitive is stupid to me not only because of that, but because it’s also predictable. The same three people win every single time, so its entertainment value is lost. There’s EG, OpTic, and Envy. That’s it. There’s no reason to have eight teams when they lose every single time.

            I accept the League of Legends, DOTA 2, and Starcraft 2’s competitive aspects because of the fact that those games have significantly heavier skill levels/gaps. They’re more difficult games to learn, and their games aren’t significantly dumbed down, because they’re balanced games from the get-go. What those guys play, are what you and I play. Call of Duty is the exact opposite. I don’t watch e-Sports in general, because it just doesn’t entertain me, and that’s my personal preference, and because of the fact that MOBAs don’t interest me and they bore me. I played one match of LoL and I couldn’t get into it. The game bores me and I don’t like it.

            Your statement on SH and Activision making the calls prove my point. They wouldn’t be making these calls if they were’t favoring the “pros”. They listen to only the pros, and that was my entire point. We say that we don’t know what we want, when “pro players” are the exact DEFINITION of that. It’s silly. IW made the patches with e-Sports in mind, because the e-Sports guys bitched and complained, look at the Bizon, that weapon is bipolar as shit. I will point my fingers whenever I feel is necessary, and I blame the competitive players, because they always get what they want. I DO blame Activision and IW, however, that doesn’t mean that I can’t blame the competitive guys, because they’re also in the wrong. Their mentality/ways of thinking are ignorant. CoD, apparently to them, is only a good game if what THEY play are good, instead of the ENTIRE game being good. Why doesn’t Nadeshot like Ghosts? Because competitive is bad. Not because the game itself is bad. He’s biased.

          • TheShadowReaper

            meh whatever. each to their own i guess.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            > sees essay
            > says “fuck that”

            I’d do the same thing.

          • TheShadowReaper

            its not just that. i just noticed that i was ready to argue about the exact same points i argued on my first reply. i see no point in that. + essay doesnt help.

  • Leave the hoverbikes in campaign. I don’t think they’ll be used in MP. As for the threat detection grenade, I can totally see that in MP because to “eliminate campers” although I have no problem with camping in general. Mobile barricades could just stay in campaign as well. I don’t want to see them in MP. The tanks will most likely be singplayer only. Doubt they’ll add tanks. Last time they did that it was in World at War.

  • jordanxbrookes

    I feel you should only be shown from a Threat Detection Grenade, if you are stationary, kinda similar to the MMS in Black Ops 2 to detect campers. Obviously there could be some perk to counter too, like Cold Blooded in Black Ops 2 can counter the MMS.

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      Then campers will just use Cold Blooded.

      • jordanxbrookes

        Not if there’s a perk more beneficial than CB, in Black Ops 2, everyone ran with either Toughness, Scavenger or both.

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          Everyone uses the Holy Trinity on BO2. Nothing else. Lighweight, Toughness, and Dexterity. I don’t think you understand the generic Call of Duty player mentality. When there is a perk to leave them stationary, then they will use it. If there’s no counter to Cold-Blooded, then Advanced Warfare would become Ghosts. No Threat Detection Grenades. Period.

  • Harper79

    I’m not pumped for this game anymore. Been playing the Destiny beta and COD just cannot compete with a game like this in terms of quality, scope and longevity. Activision invested five times as much money into this game than Advanced Warfare so I can kinda see where their priorities lie. After how terrible Ghosts was; I’m not surprised they don’t have much confidence in the franchise now. It will still sell regardless of how good it is as the community just lap up the same old crap. A year ago; everyone was mesmerised by Ghosts yet anyone with a brain cell that isn’t your stereotypical fanboy had common sense not to buy it….twice.

    All this speculation for AW yet it’s still going to be the same old nonsense that we saw 7 years ago. Words like ‘revolutionary’ and ‘innovative’ don’t cut it with COD so I’m not expecting much. Destiny is where the future lies. COD will always be a last gen memory.

    • J4MES

      I think Destiny has the potential to be the best game ever made but that doesn’t write off the fact that AW could be a good game in its own right. Activision certainly have a quality portfolio of games and whilst the hype lies with Destiny at the minute; I think interest in AW will grow as we get closer to release and things get leaked.

      • Grenada!

        Destiny is the next big thing since sliced bread. However CoD AW will still sell like crazy but not as much as previous CoDs I don’t think.

  • J4MES

    Hoverbikes in multiplayer? No thanks.

  • HenryDF

    The maps will need to suit hoverbikes, so unless they plan on building them nice and big with wide areas, I doubt they’ll do it.

    • jordanxbrookes

      Well big maps shouldn’t be a problem SINCE SLEDGEHAMMER SAID THE MP IS GOING TO BE VERY FAST-PACED.

      • TheShadowReaper

        unless they make the player count bigger, say like 9v9, bigger maps are gonna be more of a nuisance rather than a service…

        • jordanxbrookes

          Well big maps worked for Tfall and Halo, due to fast-pace of the game, so I wouldn’t haven’t problem for big maps, also verticality can play a big part in map design as well, if you see the golden gate bridge in the trailer, you can see the soldiers on that billboard overhang, plus I think this is going to be a map.

          • TheShadowReaper

            well, COD isnt Titanfall or Halo. + Halo has the most hilariously slow gameplay i have seen in any FPS of this decade. just awful.

            if the verticality of the map comes into play then my point stands even stronger cause that mean we are gonna need players to cover even more ground. even more reasons to go 9v9 on the normal playlists imo.

          • jordanxbrookes

            I know Call of Duty isn’t those games, but if it were fast-paced like Titanfall, then I don’t think big maps would be such an issue.

          • TheShadowReaper

            well, we saw that with Ghosts now, didnt we? but i wont be dramatic here and take everything into account. Ghosts didnt had boost jumps and dashes so i guess bigger maps with more levels will probably work on AW.

          • jordanxbrookes

            See that’s the response I imagine getting, Ghosts wasn’t fast-paced in the slightest, apart from the small-medium maps. Just depends on certain nodes.

          • TheShadowReaper

            yeah + Ghosts was really slow paced for a COD game. if everything is right and in place, AW sounds like a COD gamers’ heaven. lets hope it is true.

      • HenryDF

        They’ve said it is going to be…it doesn’t mean it is going to be. Infinity Ward said all that nonsense about Ghosts (I’m not even gonna bother listing some of the bullshit they said), and look at how that turned out.

    • ThisGuy

      But then people will complain about big maps.

      • fires

        people complained because of with the slow gameplay, that shit caused matches to time out in the end.

  • k5berry

    About the mobile barricade, I was thinking that this could be a utility on the map for anyone to use, like the Minigun on some maps like Turbine. You could walk up to it and hit the action button, and it would automatically move with you and just function like it normally does (I haven’t seen the video so I’m sorry if that isn’t how it works). Or, maybe an interesting way to put a spin on things would be that you would have to have a certain piece of equipment or a certain perk to interact with it. This could also be a nice MP aspect: that there are more utilities and things to interact with around the map, but you have to have specific pieces of equipment to interact with them. For example, with one piece, you’re able to interact with defensive technology like the barricades, but with another one, you’re able to interact with offensive weapons like drones and such.

  • jordanxbrookes

    I WANT CLAYMORES!!

    • TheShadowReaper

      yeah, i miss the good ol’ claymores too!

      • jordanxbrookes

        Setting up claymores back in the Black Ops days 😀

        • MW2 days* 🙂

          • TheShadowReaper

            who gives a damn about that train wreck of a game. (MW2)

          • MW2 was the most worshiped CoD to date…

          • Guywithbrains

            Agreed. I remember my first match in Terminal… good memories besides those noobtubes coming from that legendary death valley…

            Claymores should return, so no one could be able to sneak back if they don’t equip any specific perk so claymore explosion would get delayed.

          • jordanxbrookes

            Every game that had the Claymore in, happy? 🙂

          • TheShadowReaper

            yeah and it was the one with the most bullshit in it. i still wonder why people worship it. its one of the worst in the franchise, if not THE worst.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            That’s your opinion. Just like people that gave 50 or less to The Last of Us. That is BY FAR, the best game (story-wise, detail-wise, console graphical-wise and all that shit-wise) that I’ve ever played. You think the game’s shit, most people think that the game’s one of the best CoD’s ever, maybe even one of the best FPS’ ever.

            I’m certainly one of them.

            But what about Black Ops, do you like it? Because I can say that it is the closest game to MW2 (not counting CoD4, of course)

          • TheShadowReaper

            the Last of Us is a piece of art. i dunno why people bash it so much. but people have always been stupid so i’m not so surprised to see such a good game like the Last of Us being so negatively criticized. i mean, people like MW2 and not the Last of Us… x)

            Black Ops is the best COD to date without any doubt in my mind. i dont care care what people say cause people have always been retards as i said. (especially Americans, which are the vocal majority of those who are being idiots over the internet about games). COD4 sure did bring a lot to the table, MW2 kinda screwed it over, then BO did everything COD4 did but even better. especially the cold war era setting is something that i love and havent seen many FPS games explore that much. there are not many of us that believe BO is the best COD so far, but whoever does imo knows better. and its not like i became a BO fan just piss of a MW fanboy or anything like that. i saw value and effort in BO. more than any COD up until now. and i stand strong by my choice.

          • I dont have last of us. MY old friend did and I tried it out on MP. Saw tad bits of story. I suck at it but it is a masterpiece even with only an hour of experience under my belt and in my eyes

          • UpRiftCOD

            Wow what a dick

          • TheShadowReaper

            about what?.

          • jordanxbrookes

            Commando FTW 🙂

          • bob loblaw

            While I tend to favor the Treyarch titles as of late I still regard Call of Duty 2 as being the best. Call of Duty 2 was the last balanced Call of Duty title, meaning everyone started on equal ground.

          • TheShadowReaper

            while that is correct it is also that COD2 isnt what COD is now. create a class, perks, level ups. all these things were not present in COD2. making the game repetitive and boring after a short while. but it was great for lan events. i sure have played my fair share of COD2 multiplayer in lan events with friends.

          • bob loblaw

            The game may have been boring to those that don’t play games for game play. Those people tend to leave anyways when the next big title arrives. The Call of Duty franchise hasn’t been retaining it’s players since Black Ops, even Black Ops 2 seen a drastic drop off a month or so after release. Nearly all the large FPS titles have slacked off other than Battlefield, where are those players going? I’m not talking sales either, I’m talking actual activity. While Call of Duty has brought the FPS genre to a broad audience it has also tainted the quality of titles in the same genre. I’d personally like to see better game play with less gimmicks, I believe that would help retain players and create a more stable community. I highly doubt Advanced Warfare will deliver like they’re claiming it will, at it’s core it will still offer the same experience the gaming community has obviously grown tired of.

          • TheShadowReaper

            are my eyes hurt or did you really type that? ” Nearly all the large FPS titles have slacked off other than Battlefield” whaaaaaaaaaaaat? BF is the worst offender when it comes to the FPS genre. any FPS franchise hasnt been slacking off but BF. that’s what you wanted to say…

          • bob loblaw

            I’m referring to retaining players. Read what I posted again. Battlefield is the only FPS title, even with the absurd amount of problems with BF4, that has retained a large portion of it’s player base for any length of time. Call of Duty has had a bad influence on game design and the declining populations across the board are a clear indicator of that.

            I don’t even like the console ported Battlefield games of today but they do retain players. Even when the game is obviously broken.

          • TheShadowReaper

            well…
            1) they have a smaller player base. its way easier to retain. even when half of the fanbase rage quit after BF3, there were other morons that took their place.
            2) EA has the best suckers on the planet. the BF fanboys. most retarded community ever. they love BF. even when EA has been treating them like a little bitch.

            also, COD is retaining its players too. its just that its easier to lose players when you have so many games released and have so many people playing it. i mean look at the numbers, COD reached the biggest number a video game can, its not like it can get eve MORE fans because there are so many people out there in the first place playing games and specifically playing FPS games. if you get what i’m saying.

          • bob loblaw

            Again, I’m not referring to sales. You argument is mute as I’m referring to retaining the players and not actual sales.

            Today’s gamers seek longevity in a multiplayer experience, that was once sustained via various player investment methods. I believe what we’re seeing is that younger gamers have grown tired of such methods and are currently looking for better game play.

            A good example of player retention would be Halo 3, it endured even during the glory days of Call of Duty 4. Halo 3 didn’t really have an expansive player investment system yet the players kept playing. Why is that? It’s because the game offered solid game play. That’s something Call of Duty has been lacking for quite some time, which in turn has altered other FPS titles due to the success of Call of Duty.

            Long story short, casuals are becoming less casual. In an industry that’s always changing they had better be ready to adjust to these changes or they might just end up like Atari.

          • TheShadowReaper

            are you stupid or are you trying really hard to be? when did i talked about sales? but even in your mind i did talk about sales, sales is what makes the numbers of people playing idiot! you can see how COD or any game for that matter retains people via sales. not always (example Ghosts) but yeah…

            Halo is an arena shooter. and its probably the slowest and worst arena shooter out there. Unreal Tournament and Quake would easily make a chew out of it. but surprisingly not only it didnt die but become MS’s and Xbox’s killer app.

            imo what Ghosts lacked is longevity to keep players interested and playing. you unlock anything you want as long as you have enough credits to do so unlike any other COD game where you needed to wait for the appropriate level. this alone did hold many players to the game, including me. a good example of a COD game that retains its players is BO2. everyone “hated” it but everyone still plays it.

          • bob loblaw

            Name calling, are you 12?

            Anyways, I read all of our posts again and I believe I found the issue. When I say retention I’m referring to the percentage of people that stay playing game for the duration of it’s cycle. You went on some rage induced rant about how Call of Duty can’t get any more fans or something to that extent. That’s why I believe you don’t quite understand what I mean when I say retention.

            I used Halo as an example of player retention, wasn’t referring to it’s style of play. Halo did indeed die, why is that? Well they wanted to make the game more accessible so they took the Call of Duty approach. They implemented all sorts of gimmicks to cause imbalance. That’s why I have stated Call of Duty has had a negative impact on the FPS genre. Many games are taking the Call of Duty approach, which is why I believe we’re seeing a much lower retention rate of players.

            Black Ops would be a much better example of a Call of Duty game retaining it’s players. If you recall Black Ops was met with some harsh backlash just after launch. The population then rose about 2 months into the cycle and the players stayed. Black Ops 2 had players leaving in large numbers weekly and they didn’t return. The population was always declining.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i thought you were talking about the game cycle and not after the end of the cycle. BO is a good example of that. COD4 is also a great example. (and both are great examples on the PC) BO2 lost a lot of players and got them back when Ghosts launched. retained players only because of the next games’ fail, Ghosts. i wasnt paying much attention about MW2 and MW3 so i’ll take your word for them.

            COD hasnt hurt the FPS industry directly ever. it did hurt indirectly though as you said. that’s because everyone wanted a piece of that COD money pie and started sacrificing game mechanics and gameplay over stupid gimmicks so they can compete with COD. what no one ever got though is that these gimmicks suit COD because that’s what COD was build upon. gimmicks such as perks, killstreaks etc. Halo and BF werent. but instead of staying true to what their franchise was representing they decided to take the “COD route”. which was why the FPS genre has been so stale lately. its because everyone tries to copy COD. while COD has never done anything bad to gaming itself, others did because they tried to copy its success. so in a sense COD is responsible indirectly, but still kinda not really. its a fucked up mess that was going to happen anyways with any game that got this popular. it just happened to be COD.

            edit: and it already started happening again. this time on PC instead of consoles. this time with League of Legends instead of COD.

          • BrotherhoodOfSteel

            Call of Duty Black Ops is the second worst Call of Duty. Ghosts being the worst. I go by statistics.
            You can buy whatever you want in those 2 games. Thus, they weren’t addicting, and were incredibly boring. Black Ops is better though, because you still have to unlock weapons, but buy everything for them. Ghosts, you can buy the best gun and attachment at level 4, but you still have to earn camos. Obviously camos aren’t as important as Weapons or Attachments, so Ghosts was worse. It also shows on the Metacritic scores. Black Ops and Ghosts have the 2 worst scores. Black Ops might have one of the best stories, even though it completely copied Fight Club.

          • TheShadowReaper

            see? another guy of the masses with little to no brain of his own to think or put in use. and BO having worse Metacritic scores than the rest of the games just confirms how people are mindless and cant actually use their damn brain.

          • BrotherhoodOfSteel

            I’m just saying the games with currency systems are the worst received, and the worst in general. They’re facts, not opinions. The metacritic thing was just more proof. Though “proof” or “statistics” don’t coincide with your brain apparently.

          • BrotherhoodOfSteel

            The Last of Us is one of my favorite games ever. Probably my favorite in terms of story. Other than that, its still beat out in terms of gameplay by Fallout and Skyrim. *could you tell my name*. I’d also say it’s tied with FarCry 3.

          • MichiganerE

            Because it was fun.

          • zombiefreak935

            have you not played ghost or mw3, TREYARCH FOR LIFE

          • Arguably, but I’d assume CoD4 is.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Lel, that’s why it is considered by many the best CoD ever made. #opinions

          • TheShadowReaper

            well as you already know from pretty much all of my posts in this website, i beg to differ from the majority.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Yup, and I respect that. Every person SHOULD have an opinion.

          • BrotherhoodOfSteel

            Modern Warfare 2 is my favorite. Easily

          • GG

            lol hipster

          • TheShadowReaper

            i prefer the title, realist. hipsters dont have a brain of their own unlike me.

          • UpRiftCOD

            And now where off topic, not a record breaker though.

          • Xecho

            MW1 you stupid foks

          • COD4Forever

            You can tell that 99% of people on here MW2 was their first COD and they probably think it was the first COD too!

          • Guywithbrains

            My first Call of Duty was Call of Duty 4. Played it about two years, then got my hands to MW2.

            So far MW3 > MW2 > MW1. MW1 was legendary, but when I found out what new the next Modern Warfare games had like co-op mode, better campaign and new killstreaks… damn.

          • Xecho

            No one here besides .5% of this here site played CoD1-3 I am part of that .5&

          • TheShadowReaper

            let me join that 0.5% along with you and…ok, its probably just us. ^^

          • Xecho

            we should make out

          • TheShadowReaper

            i dont have my nostalgia COD vibrator. you’re out of luck.

          • Xecho

            damnit

          • MichiganerE

            Same here. CoD 1 & 2 for life! CoD 3 was okay.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            “Oh, it has a 2 on the name, IT MOST BE THE FIRST CoD”

            I literally have never seen someone THAT stupid. Where do you get these ideas? Or/And how much does the drugs you’re taking cost? I want some of that crazy shit.

    • Mario Rivera

      Fuck that, cod needs to move away from camper friendly tools and mechanics.

    • Run N Gunning Camper

      Off topic but dude, you got to play Destiny. The beta is so good, I think I will play more Destiny than COD this year.

  • Batman

    I want the milimiter scanner back, as well as veichles and shields in some maps.
    Note: CoD 3 also had veichles in MP like cars and tanks

  • MichiganerE

    Hey Keshav, vehicles were in CoD 3 as well. The game featured tanks and motorcycles.

    • Nobody knows there is CoD 3 😛

      • MichiganerE

        The CoD community in a nutshell.

        • jordanxbrookes

          Hey I know CoD 3, I’ve completed the campaign at least a few times over.

          • MichiganerE

            Well that’s a first.

          • jordanxbrookes

            Remember Huxley haha.

          • MichiganerE

            Yep.

          • fires

            “You throw the grenade, not the pin!”

        • I’m not inside a nutshell, I’m inside a house.

        • Ryumoau

          lol

          • MichiganerE

            Lol.

        • TheShadowReaper

          sry i didnt knew about vehicles in COD3 that never came to PC. yeah…

          • MichiganerE

            I started out with CoD on PC as well. I originally owned CoD 1 & 2 on PC and bought a 360 because of CoD 3. Then from that point on, I became a console gamer. Sorry, Gabe!

          • TheShadowReaper

            you! Gaben trusted you! how could you! 😀

            (+ you’re doing yourself a disservice.)

          • MichiganerE

            I’m sorry my PC brothers! Also, why’d you put a smiley face in your comment? Are you happy or sad?

          • TheShadowReaper

            just being randomly silly and all. you know how we on the PC hail the Great Gaben and stuff! 😛

          • MichiganerE

            YES!

    • Keshav Bhat

      Sorry about that. Woke up early this morning and typed this out fast and only remembered about WaW

      • MichiganerE

        It’s okay…

  • ddrhodes33

    If the shield was implemented into MP would the campers abuse it, they could sit in a corner with a shield that covers them until they aim down sight to kill someone passing by. How would you counter this? Any Ideas?

  • ddrhodes33

    Hey Keshav, do you know when Peter will be bringing back the Charlie Intel podcast?

    • Ryumoau

      i’m curious as well. theres been so much more advanced warfare info since the last podcast episode. Or maybe they are waiting till the multiplayer reveal next month to bring it back.

  • justinn

    They should make a reduces detection grenade in mp one that only last for a sec or 2…

  • James Veach

    I would not include vehicles in multiplayer.

  • Josh

    kryptek raid camo found on player clothing for Advanced Warfare campaign.

    • Xecho

      That’s the wrong camo buddy but it is krytek

  • Eh?

    Slow news week?

  • Guest 601

    They should make the shield where you can only push it & not pull it towards you.

    • Xecho

      You just said mobile barricade

  • Josh

    From playing the destiny beta i can see how hover bikes could work but I just don’t see it being a kill streak, nor do I feel it would suit Call of Duty. Just need to wait and see how these technologies will be implemented. I trust in SHG to make it work well 🙂

  • pcp

    Call of Duty 1 United Offensive has vehicles in multiplayer.
    You didn’t know that and you have a site with name “charlieintel” ? LoL! Thats why CoD is what it is today.
    Because the most of the community knows CoD from MW2 and after,and they think….i dont know wtf they think.
    Is sad but is true also.

    • UW0TM8

      It’s actually been 10 years since I started playing Call of Duty. Time flies, doesn’t it? Ahh, I can just feel the nostalgia … waking up early in the morning just to jump on the good old Gamecube, playing CoD: Finest Hour, back in 2004. Back when they first introduced hitmarkers in campaign (although they were red, not white). I still have my Gamecube, and the game, luckily.

  • Guywithbrains

    I don’t want vehicles to multiplayer or big maps. If I want a game like that, I would play Battlefield.

    However, these gadgets sound great. Finally I would have a chance to detect all the campers before they can shoot me. Also that mobile barricade sounds great and if support streaks return, it would be nice to have it as a support streak (like 8 streak, so you won’t be able to spam it like UAV in MW3).

    We learn more when Gamescom starts… until then I have to find a way to speed time.

  • MIKKEtheMIDGET

    Some noobs will always find a way to ruin the game for everyone else, no matter if there was fancy equipment. It’s the community, what is dragging CoD to its downhill of doom. I wish there would be a playlist for like player with +1.8 KD or something like that

  • TheShadowReaper

    btw, the 3rd image (downwards) that you posted, i believe its ripped from multiplayer footage. they did say that they slip mp footage here and there now and then.

    • Kill Denied

      Source?

      • TheShadowReaper

        no way i can find it now, but i read it here on Charlie Intel.

  • NuttyTheSquirrel

    We know what happened to CoD when they tried implementing vehicles don’t we?….

    CoD is all about CQ-Medium engagements, there’s not enough space to have fucking stupid tanks and hoverbikes…….

    Sooo:

    Movable cover? —– GOD NO!
    Tanks /Hover bikes ? —– NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
    Threat Detection Grenade —– Depends on how it works, but it can be a good thing.

    • jooker-jr

      I think they should give a Free Map that has vechlies in it. So if we liked it they give us more. And if we didn’t then it’s free.

      • NuttyTheSquirrel

        I don’t know. If they REALLY WANT to put vehicles in a map it should be a different gamemode where they put 2 maps together with a road or something in between so that you’re able to travel from one map to another seamlessly.

        Example: Array + Summit

        You could be fighting in Array and on the bottom of the map would be a road where at the end of it you could catch a cable car/ski-lift and travel to Summit. The maps would also need to support more players…
        ~
        That’s the only way I see that working out.

  • Me want more players to kill

    They should make the team player pop to like 25 on 25 so we can have a real war. I mean we have next-gen consoles, time to max them out 🙂
    And no, not relating it to crappy battlefield

  • darude

    who the fuck wrote this ? we have never seen a ground vehicle before except in waw ? they have fucking a shit ton of vehicles in cod 3 not just tanks in waw

  • Dudeson

    vehicles nooooooo :/

  • Guest

    I think the detection grenade should work exactly how it does in Campaign but it should have a ‘blast’ radius. I’m also not too keen on COD adding vehicles into MP (I didn’t even like the tanks in WaW). Would be interesting to see the shields around the map with a ‘health’ system.

  • TheShadowReaper

    fuck her right in the pussy

  • Mario Rivera

    I pray to god they dnt put mobile shields in MP

    • jooker-jr

      I think it will be good in domination.

      For example : let’s say the enemy has the B flag and there’s no way to take it. Then u can use mobile shield ( which is placed near the The flag ) to push to the B flag and capture it.

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

    BTW yay! Finally some more Advanced Warfare stuff! I wish they’d announce new things. Speaking of which, we could possibly getting some news next week, so mark your calendars (Michael Condrey said so). Don’t know which day.

  • i know this isnt a “hot topic” but if hover bikes are in MP will they be in 3rd person view or first person

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      First Person. Or both.

  • Majorbludd

    Call of Duty: United Offensive had tanks and jeeps in multiplayer. 2004. Available on Steam. They worked beautifully, shame they didn’t keep them in the later CODs. UO was better than BF1942 IMO, due to CODs tighter controls and superior maps.

  • Underdog BO1 FTW!

    Please no Stupid field orders… No Free killstreak/scorestreak for noobs

    • J4MES

      Field orders in Ghosts were a complete disaster. Some noob gets the first kill, completes one measly task and then has a ridiculously huge advantage from the get go particualrly on the DLC maps with the map-specific rewards. They should have just rewarded extra XP or something that wasn’t going to be overly-beneficial at such a premature stage in matches. Some orders were easier than others but the ones like ‘humiliate the next person you kill’ just gave a silly early advantage for doing next to nothing.

      I have a feeling that most of the tacky crap IW included in Ghosts will be eradicated in AW.

  • Taylor911

    Can’t wait to see screenshots of the PS4 version; these XB1 ones look really tacky at 720p and the footage at 25fps is horrendous. Just hope the finished product can surpass Crysis 2 but it doesn’t look like it will.

  • Walter Iego

    Anything that is different from the older games is good. Looking forward to it.

  • Michael

    Now I respect CharlieIntel’s opinion on the paragraphs talking about the “threat detection grenade” but the thing is, I don’t wanna be forced to run a perk to counter something. (Some of you may know the term “critical perks.”) For example, mw3’s assasin perk which EVERYONE ran excluding myself. And bo2 flak jacket. These are critical perks. I don’t wanna to be forced to run something just to counter it. It’s a waste of a perk slot. But I can’t judge until we see multiplayer gameplay but great speculation CharlieIntel.

    • jooker-jr

      IMO ghosts perk system is the best

      • Michael

        Yeah I like ghost too. But I have such a great set up that I made myself in bo2. Rushing setup. If you would like to use this class set up for bo2 (which I recommend) then give it a go. Put any smg with any attachments you want. Put hardline scavenger+fast hands, and dexterity. Put c4 and emp grenade. That set up gives me wonders and that’s the reason why I hold a 1.65kd in bo2

        • Michael

          You don’t need perk 1 greed. Don’t get confused about that.

  • Guywithbrains

    http://www.computerandvideogames.com/471904/previews/advanced-warfare-how-call-of-dutys-classic-ghillied-up-level-is-driving-sledgehammer/

    You guys should definitely check that out! There was some new information and if I understood right, they even talk about new mission… or then I have missed something.

    However, I can’t wait for this week’s Advanced Warfare news… maybe we could finally get to see new video? 🙂

    • Ryumoau

      haven’t seen the article before, thanks.

      • Guywithbrains

        No problem. I always check for new things about Advanced Warfare from Google search. Just type the game’s name and then time options today or last 24 hours. 😉

  • washkinz

    F#ck all camper spawn trappen trash. Your noobs. Cod is a run and gun franchise and people that cant run and gun camp because they believe they will not win fair gun battles incapable of catching the people who are actually trying to beat players on the draw. a million excuses does not hide the fact that you’re a trash camper. and for everyone that is confused camping is not a plain style into an excuse for cheap playing. grow some balls and run around.

    • Guywithbrains

      Man, take this cookie from me! You said it!

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

    Quick question/statement; during Advanced Warfare’s Induction trailer (after the swarm of drones), I can’t grasp something. He throws the Threat Detection Grenade, and it reveals the position. Yep, we’ve established that already; but even after, it shows their positions. Is this with the Mobile Barricade, or is it an effect of Threat Detection? Hopefully these two gadgets will not be in MP. There’s no way in hell to balance them.

  • tre

    they should not put a dam riot shield on here

  • CBasss

    I like that SHGames isn’t overhyping their game pre-release and keeping it secretive