UMG Events Dallas has come to an end and Denial eSports has won the tournament and the $10,000 price.

Here’s the top 5 placement:

  1. Denial eSports – $10,000
  2. Team EnVyUs – $4,000
  3. OpTic Nation – $3,000
  4. OpTic Gaming – $2,000
  5. Most Wanted – $1, 000

The next UMG Event is currently UMG Nashville, which is set to take place on October 10th according to Call of Duty’s site here under upcoming events.

Stay tuned for the latest Call of Duty eSports news.

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  • congrats to denial, I watched the Nv vs Optic Nation game and Nv looked sharp but man denial 3-0 really! Where is Complexity aka EG at?

    • mile104mc

      EG Karma couldn’t attend, so the team didn’t attend.

      • didnt he get suspended for trash talk? Do correct me if Im wrong.

        • Smile4TheKi1lcam

          Negative, he had a baby

          • Oh ok haha. Do you know who got suspended? I know somebody did.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            No idea sorry.

          • aches got suspended dude. Vid on drama alert

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            I was gonna say I wouldn’t be surprised if it was aches. Bloody greasy sook! If people are gonna complain about e-sports, Aches is the man to blame. He is the cause for every change in the game with his constant whining

    • Smile4TheKi1lcam

      I believe that EG isn’t attending any more Ghosts events due to Karma recently having a baby.

      • Cool thank’s man, Ghosts is really bad for esports anyways Domination just doesnt do it from a spectators point of view

  • jordanxbrookes

    Still can’t believe OpTic Nation beat OpTic Gaming, but at least we knew that OpTic would win that fight XD. Kudos to Denial for winning at UMG Dallas.

    • Don

      I still can’t believe people care about etournaments!

      • Its the same thing as watch real life sports. You got your team that you root for. You got your players that you like the most. You watch them compete and hope they dont get eliminated. Its just like watching the playoffs in the NFL but all year round and not just in January. That’s why it grows it’s community everyday.

        • Don

          It’s a recreational hobby it’s not like the NFL. If I train for years and build up the credentials and deal with the Physical torments of either the worlds elements or other players then it’s a sport!

          But not Cod, a game that I literally learned in 10min and mastered in 2months. Cod is not a sport no more than street fighter or LoL!

          • Its still the same thing as watching real sports haha. I do agree that it is not completely a “sport” but watching is the same because of the things I listed in my last comment. Im not here to force anything on people though.

          • blbsnipe

            Hence CoD players not getting payed nearly as much as Athletes, and for the most part not having a steady salary at all. It all evens out, and some people find e-Sports entertaining.

    • OG vs ON in this event was my favorite matchup of all time. Not only was it both OpTic but it was non stop back and fourth with every second being such a close score. For sure going on the Esports Report tomorrow

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

    Finally someone other than OpTic wins. Still don’t care about e-Sports.

    • Wut

      Can’t tell if serious but optic has literally won one event in the past two years.

      • What about x-games? They won that!

        • Wut

          -___- … Read my comment again.

          • fine. they did get third in the COD championship though. sorry if I seem pathetic. 😛

          • Wut

            Nah, just a minor misunderstanding, all good.

          • They also won UMG Chicago on BO2

          • Wut

            I was saying years as in 2013 and 2014, that was in December 2012 IIRC. But if you’re going by months that’s correct.

          • *clap* *clap* The internet isnt full of ass holes after all

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            And who’s the asshole? Me? For having an opinion? Stupid biased competitive idiot.

          • when did I call you an ass hole? And also know you are acting like one as you have falsely called me bias. I dont even know what you called me bias about since you have an inability to process thoughts so that was not included but I dont give a shit what people do or like or dislike. But if I can point a fact I will

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You’re biased towards e-Sports, you’re defending it and making excuses for it left and right and there’s nothing objective about it.

          • There is a difference between bias and stating facts. I have no problem with pubs. The casual community does keep the game alive. But its not true to say hat MLG doesnt add strategy to the game

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You’re not stating facts, you seem like you’re biased. IN FAVOR, no less, of competitive, and you’re blind to the things that it effects. How does MLG add strategy? It’s the same game, just significantly dumbed down.

          • And you are acting bias towards non competitive. And MLG adds strategy to the game because it makes the developers change it up to make the game less “Oh were are gonna give a little 6 year old named billy that never played the game this so he can tear through people who’ve played since COD4 and ruin the game for the ‘vets'”. That’s why in AW they took away Dead Silence and are doing something with it that should be better. Probably and exo ability. That’ll add more strategy because you have to use it at the right time. The game should not be about carrying six year old squeakers into glory and competitive helps with that. Ghosts abandoned comp though…plus guard dogs….that’s why every person on that game pretty much is some 2 year old that hasnt learn how to stop sucking on their pacifier yet. P.S. sorry that was pretty long

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Not really. I don’t know if you have been reading my comments, but this is why I have a strong negative opinion towards competitive:

            -It’s too predictable
            -They ban shit to the point where the game they play is not CoD at all and is just a Barebones version
            -It influences the core game
            -It has a shitty community
            -It has not grown enough in order to give “pros” benefits

            I never said that I liked non-competitive better. CoD for the past 5 years has been shit in general. If they have to ban so many things, then competitive CoD shouldn’t exist, or we should play what the competitive players play. I feel like AW will feel like not only a more competitive game, but also a more balanced game. But MLG is already trying to ban multiple things. It’s not needed. They could easily balance these things or add it unto the competitive metagame. It doesn’t make sense to me. I’m basically saying that I’m not willing to support competitive until it’s improved. I’m unbiased because I’m neutral; I don’t like the past 3/4/5 CoD games, and I don’t like competitive. So how am I biased?

            But you’re right in terms of the “strategical” part of competitive. We need to play what they play, or have them play what we play, in order to give a balanced experience and a non-separate community split.

          • blbsnipe

            I would gear more towards playing what they play, as it does make the game far more enjoyable. When you can play a match of Ghosts (for example) without worrying about, I.E.D.s, Guard dogs, or basically the items that make the game unbearable, you tend to have more fun than the other side of the game. I also think that its okay to ban certain items for competitive, but they shouldn’t create such a schism between ‘casuals’ and ‘pros’. If more people started playing the competitive, or vice versa, maybe the game would be released to fit all players. That said its doubtful that they could make a perfectly balanced game on release, seeing as even games like League of Legends (which has been out for 4) years still needs to balance certain champions with every patch.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You’re going along more of the right track, however, I slightly disagree. In order for MLG to improve, they need to get rid of their rules and play what we play. Period, end of conversation. You’re saying to “ban a few things”, no, they shouldn’t ban a single thing. Build the entire game around a competitive rule-set by getting rid of bullshit entirely is how CoD improves. Competitive gaming doesn’t work because of the fact that it’s Barebones, and also because it’s a game catered to “noobs” (hence Target Finders, quickscoping, etc.). It’s too CASUAL of a game to be competitive. That’s why it doesn’t work. That’s why LoL and SC players laugh at it.

          • Super

            After reading all of your comments i just wanted to let you know that you’re not smart at all. You clearly know nothing about competitive and all of your arguments are stupid. Please, just stop.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            AKA “I’m a competitive fanboy who doesn’t like seeing someone critique something that I love and put my time into. I’m a big baby who doesn’t know what an intelligent argument is”.

            Just shut up. If you can’t refute my points, then why the fuck are you replying to me?

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Touche. Top 3. Competitive is predictable since EG has won most events as Complexity, then. But you’re wrong, OpTic has won multiple events.

        • Wut

          Optic won tons of events in the first black ops and MW3. I was saying in the last two years (2013 and 2014, not by months).

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I’ve seen them win multiple Black Ops 2 and Ghosts events.

          • Wut

            Really? Which ones? I’m gonna assume you’re talking about online tournaments which are not considered by the players as an actual tournament win. Only the events that are on LAN are considered a tournament win due to many factors with online play such as: player connection, host advantage, various forms of cheating and for example rise is 12-2 (1st place in the online season 3 league) yet in this LAN event they didn’t place top 16. The reason they’re so dominant online is because of how good their connection is.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Nope, I’m talking about events. I don’t bother to look at anything related to, say, League Play and Clan Wars, since both are stupid concepts in my opinion. I remember them either winning or taking second place in both Ghosts and BO2. There’s still the irrefutable claim that EG wins all the time, and it becomes predictable. That’s why I can’t stand CoD “e-Sports”.

        • CGkillZ

          They place 3rd and 2nd more then anything. They need to drop proof. He’s been doing horrible. Need a better slayer. He hasn’t been doing a great job since joining optic. Maybe it’s just ghosts but Idk shit needs changed.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Still doesn’t refute my point that the same 3 teams place in every tournament. Why should competitive be popular, if it’s predictable as hell?

          • CGkillZ

            Yes that’s very true. I just like watching the competitive matches cause at this point most teams can beat each others. So it’s just really EG this is the better team. But Idk it was more exciting in bo2. Wasn’t as predictable. I think it’s more ghosts then anything.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I hate competitive CoD period. It just isn’t a concept that makes sense.

          • CGkillZ

            Yeah people have there own opinion just got to respect em. I personally think it’s fun to get a good team of 4 and kick ass. I just don’t like the base game and those modes make it playable. I don’t think these guys should be making ad much as they do tho. Playing video games all day making ashit ton while people do labor jobs making nothing compared to that is bs.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            The “pros” don’t deserve the money I get. Peoples’ families don’t earn nearly what EG makes, and then you see their dumbasses gloating about it on Twitter. They’re not the only ones doing it. The only competitive team I respect is OpTic.

          • CGkillZ

            Yes I totally agree with you on that. All of them gloat just some of have better social game. Optic knows how to treat fans. EG doesn’t. I don’t really like the people but it’s fun to watch at times.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            BTW I made a mistake. “deserve the money *I* get” I meant to say “deserve the money *they* get”. Anyway.

            Them being douche bags is one of the reasons as to why I’ll never support MLG. Why should I? How does it benefit me?

          • Super

            You really know jack shit about e-sports dont you? The same 3 teams most certainly dont place T3 every tournament.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I know plenty. I know that it’s either EG, OpTic, or nV winning. It’s too predictable, get over it.

    • pdan

      Doesn’t care about e-Sports. Still takes the time out of his life to comment on an e-Sports article.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Fanboys and damage controls over e-Sports; takes time to make up excuses.

        These articles are for opinions. It doesn’t matter if they’re negative.

  • Typo: Price = Prize

  • Interesting results with a not so interesting game

  • Seven

    I don’t understand why people are so into mlg. You sit there and watch a video game.

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      Just like Youtube.

      • Seven

        YouTube is a little different becuase people are showing you how to do stuff, trolls, ect. But mlg is legit just sitting there and watching “pro call of duty players” play a game you can play yourself.

        • IamConnolly

          You can also play football yourself, but people still watch it because they want to see it played at the highest level.

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          Why do people watch sports? You’re just sitting there watching “pro sports players” play a sport you can play yourself.

          • Seven

            Well it’s moving pixels on a screen. Nothing accually really happens.

          • Nytrofactor

            Lol just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Lol just stop, you’re a biased plebeian.

          • watching football is watching pixels on a screen. Im guessing 1080P pigskins?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Watching e-Sports? I’d rather watch paint dry. Never have I seen such a predictable thing to watch in my life. Besides some TV shows.

          • jordanxbrookes

            So you predicted Denial would win? That’s strange, because I wouldn’t have predicted they’d win.

          • Pixels don’t move 😛

          • CGkillZ

            Stop now lol. Digging yourself in a deeper hole… I think you should think before speaking or typing lol

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            e-Sports is not sports, though, although people who play competitive gaming call themselves athletes, which they’re not.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        The difference is that e-Sports is predictable, in which it’s not meant to be. YouTube is predictable in the sense that content creators have a strict schedule and multiple series to put out. e-Sports is just there.

    • pdan

      I don’t understand why people are so into commenting on things they purportedly don’t care about. You sit there on your computer and waste time you could be doing something you consider valuable and productive for yourself.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        You waste your time figuratively jacking off to things you’re biased towards. You know what else is a waste of time? What we’re ALL doing. You’re also typing on a computer and you’re not doing anything productive, hypocrite. You know what else is a waste of time? Video games. CoD. This is an opinion website. I have a negative opinion? Instead of white knighting, how about you refute said opinions instead of doing said white knighting?

        • pdan

          I know you are, but what am I.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Another immature comment. This is what e-Sports does to you kids… “I know you are but what am I?” so elementary. And you asked a question, so add a question mark, not a period, it makes you look like a retard.

    • Oh yes because sitting there and watching people play a sport is so much different?

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Sports are sports. e-Sports aren’t sports. Seriously, it’s not a good argument to say that sports are similar. They’re not. Activision wants to make CoD go on ESPN (which is bullshit) so that the immature e-Sports kids can call themselves athletes, even though they’re not.

        I hate watching sports because I don’t find it entertaining. I say the same thing about e-Sports. But sports like American Football are watched because it’s traditional. e-Sports is not. Most of the people I know have no clue what Call of Duty even is, let alone its retarded e-Sports aspects. If I asked them what American Football is, they’d tell me in an instant.

        • so you’re saying just because not everyone knows what it is means it shouldn’t be a thing? And what i meant when i said was. It is entertainment to sit down and watch sports just like how for some people (Half a million people follow the MLG twitter) they find sitting down and watching pro gamers play a sport. Sure the whole world doesn’t know who Scumpii or Nadeshot are but I could go around America and ask them if they know who Richie McCaw is and they wouldn’t have a clue even though he is probably the most respected rugby player in the world. Same with music, there are some unknown musicians that nobody knows about that are just as good as those that are huge celebrities. Judging something by the amount of fans something has is just stupid, at one point in the NRLs time it had even less fans than eSports does so why did people still like it if it had no fans?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            No, it shouldn’t be a game, because it changes what WE play way too much, and there’s TOO much focus on it. How many CoD games would have been better if these “pros” told the developers what to balance in actuality? They don’t care about us public players, they only want to make sure that what THEY play is good. I’m sorry, but in my opinion, predictable tournaments aren’t entertaining to me. Stupid usernames don’t really seem entertaining to me. 17-20 year olds high on adderall being “hyped” is not entertaining to me. Watching “pros” 4v4 with 10% of the content of the game also does not qualify as entertainment. “Pro gamers play a sport” I think you mean pro athletes lol. I wouldn’t know who Richie McCaw is because I don’t watch Rugby (American Football is Rugby but the real Rugby is more popular in other countries). “MLG” is more known in America than any place else, so asking people who these “pros” are should be easy, since it’s growing so much, right?

            Answer me this; why does Football not have a separated community or fanbase? Or does it? Does Soccer? Baseball? No. But with competitive gaming, these fans who follow the so-called “pros” are actually following a separation with our community. It’s wrong and needs to be changed. Imagine if CoD got completely rid of public matches and just made League Play the norm. That would piss people off, instead of equalizing it for all of us. Just make us all equal, that’s all I ask out of e-Sports. If people have to ban things, then you know the game has issues.

          • The developers don’t change the game for eSports players, if it were like that then how come only 5 or 6 of the maps are used for competitive and MLG ban assault and support streaks and some lethals like C4 and IED, they ban some perks and even weapons. The developers invite the pro players to see the game pre release and ask for their opinion on the game not because they make the game for them, its because the pro players have been mostly playing cod since COD4 days, and its the pro players that spend most of their time playing cod. Just like TmarTn and AliA went and gave their opinion because they play the game a lot. Even the guy who runs this site went out and saw what was going on, the pro players don’t change the game in general they only alter their aspect which is why if you go into private match it has the eSport ruleset. The guns that get patched aren’t because pro players use them, its because the developers see in tournaments or in general play that some guns kill way faster then they should.

            And to top it off, if you really think games are made for pro players then why do nearly all of the pro players hate ghosts?? Nadeshot has said it plenty of times and he’s the most known pro player, the whole EG squad say the game is shit and they have won half the events.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Because the only reason IW patched the Bizon was nerfed was for competitive? Multiple patches were for competitive. Don’t be so naive.

            There’s a difference between players saying the games are shit, and the devs trying to improve it FOR them. In this case, it’s both. And I’m tired of people making up excuses… There’s no reason to excuse/fanboy over competitive. It’s a stupid concept.

  • FATHEAD661

    Is it just me or are there other people out there who just DO NOT care for e-sports? Just a bunch of “pros” who bitch and complain about games until they get it THEIR way. And game devs, whether they they be for LoL or CoD and anything else that is played competitively, kiss their asses just so they can get some extra publicity. All the while all they do is f**k the game up for US regular players with the tweaks that are added for them.

    • Don

      Realist comment ever!!!!

    • Seven

      I feel you brother

    • actually competitive adds strategy to the game which has been missing more and more from COD since the first Black Ops.

      • Seven

        Psh black ops is when the franchise started getting a little general and at times crappy. Also around the time mlg started. See the patern?!

        • MLG has been around since COD4 (COD wise). The new hated and purposely not fixed lag comp system started in Black Ops. I personally love that game though

          • Seven

            Multiplayer after black ops is when the mlg thing started going mainstream

          • so black ops was not made around Esports if it did not start getting mainstream until after it was out. So thereeeeeefor the start of COD being bad was NOT due to Esports but the lag comp and the fact that activision wants to beat EA as worst rated company in the world

          • DopeAap

            Mlg was a thing after Counter Strike 1,6

        • Smile4TheKi1lcam

          Ahahaha that’s cute, you must be one of those children that think MW2 was the best game in existence. There have only been a few great COD games and MW2 isn’t on the list. Fan boys are just to blind to realise how completely broken the game was.

          COD2, COD4 & BO1 are widely regarded as the best games. BO2 is also the best competitive game to date. There is no correlation between COD games getting worse and e-sports becoming more popular. The only thing that is true about COD is that a washed up developer team (Infinity Ward) keeps trying to make games and failing.

          • Seven

            Cod 2?!?!? And I think waw is the best game

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            Those who played the game in it’s prime time, will say that it is one of their favourite games. I am thankful that your favourite game isn’t MW2, and WAW wasn’t half bad.

            However, if you can’t destroy e-sports, there is only to join it. E-sports is here to stay, whether it’s COD, DOTA, SC2, LOL, HS it’s not going anywhere anytime soon. E-sports is growing at such a rate that it will inevitably be widely known as a competitive sport and shown on the tv.

          • Seven

            It shouldn’t change the entire game tho. And hopefully it will never revolve around it.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            How does it harm the game if it changes it? The only change that happens is balancing the weapons, perks, streaks etc. These balances only make the game more fair and allow you to use different guns and not get wrecked because your not using the two best guns in the game.

          • Seven

            It’s fun when everyone is using guns that they like and that’s all that matters

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            Yes. Therefore you should like the e-sports balancing then, as it allows for everyone’s favourite guns to actually be able to compete with eachother

          • CGkillZ

            Well I agree with that alil. Remember the pdw. It was a good weapon until they fucked it up so badly it’s not even usable anymore. Competitive likes to change things in public matches a little too much. I love balance but you can’t just break guns like they seem to do. Like the msbs and the bizon.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            If you think about it though, the guns were broken in the first place. They were just on the other side of the spectrum of broken, over-powered. Therefore they had to balance them out to work with the other guns. You can still do reasonably well using almost any gun in the game as long as you play to the advantages of said weapon

          • CGkillZ

            There’s a difference in balanced and broken. Some of these weapons are far under others. They need to balance to the point of it being fair. Not when you can’t use it

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            Yeah but those weapons can’t be buffed even the slightest otherwise they become overpowered. Just like what happened to the Bizon a little while ago.

            I think the main reason for why the weapons can’t be overall balanced in Ghosts is just because it’s a crap game.

          • CGkillZ

            Yes it is a shitty game but you can slightly make a gun better. It’s happened before in mw3. When that game was almost over they buffed a few guns and made them decent. They shouldn’t break weapons like they’ve been doing. I want balance but that’s not balance .

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Then why didn’t they nerf quickscoping?

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            I wish they had… The only reason they haven’t and won’t is because a good portion of people won’t buy or continue to play the game if they can’t quick scope and make montages.

            I hate all aspects of snipers and think they either shouldn’t be in the game or they should have the same mechanics as BO1

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Ermahgerd a million or two people won’t buy the game! Ghosts lost about 4 million people compared to BO2. Activision should get over it. NO, the developers won’t nerf it because the quickscoping community is awful and immature. They’d be afraid to get death threats. When it comes to the internet, you’ll never know; people CAN be crazy and kill us. I don’t blame the developers for being at least SLIGHTLY petrified.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            I completely agree. But just a little bit less aggressively

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            e-Sports balancing is AIDS. All “pros” use are the best weapons in the game. Wouldn’t that cater to low Time to Kill rates?

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            Of course the pros are going to use the best weapons in the game. Why would they put themselves at a disadvantage?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Why ban things and separate the communities? Why not balance ALL the weapons so that the word “disadvantage” doesn’t exist? Then it’s the game’s fault, and they shouldn’t be playing a bad game like the past 5 or so CoD games.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            It shouldn’t matter because those things aren’t banned in public matches. You don’t even sound interested in competitive so what does it matter if your favourite weapon, perk or equipment is banned?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That’s not what it’s about. They are given crutches. If things have to be banned, then you know that the game is fucked. I can’t stand the crutches, not my favorite things being removed. It’s also due to the fact that they have a more dumbed down experience in general. Then you have to include that competitive is predictable and unrewarding, thus breaking the whole “entertainment” value of e-Sport’s conception.

          • Seven

            Games are always more fun before they are patched.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Balancing is not to make the game fair, but to make sure that we play on an even playing field without any bullshit or overpowered mechanics, in which were added just because of e-Sports. You DO know that some weapons in BO2 and Ghosts were added JUST so that the “pros” can use them? The MSMC, PDW, M8A1, etc. What you said is completely wrong. It hinders the game, not help it.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            Making the game fair and levelling the playing field are exactly the same things.

            And what prof exactly do you have of weapons being directly added just for pros to use them.

            Also, stop putting quotations around the word pros. They are professionals at what they do, and deserve to be recognised for their efforts

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Not really. I don’t want to say “equal”, because I don’t think that’s a correct conception. I can’t think of other ways to put it, other than “‘non-broken’ or ‘non-OP’ things”. Fair isn’t one of the things I’d call it. Would you really want a fair experience? Not towards your opponent. I win gunfights all the time not caring that it was a fair gunfight. You play games just to play games. Sometimes you DO have to have that headglitch or play cheaply just so that you can win gunfights. That’s sort of what competition is. Referees in sports make unnecessary/unfair calls all the time, but they’re the referees; whether you like their calls or not, you still can’t change their decisions. Just like how I can’t change MY decisions in-game. I think taking out these “cheap” things is what makes the game balanced, not providing a “fair” experience, but an experience that’s not cheap/OP like headglitches.

            There is no evidence, and I can admit it. Just like you have no evidence as to why e-Sports does NOT effect the core game. I collected my refutes by knowing objectively that the developers LOVE to talk to people affiliated with CoD e-Sports. The developers are biased towards them, and want to make sure that they get a good experience; or possibly even a better one. It has messed with their logical approaches to game development for us core players that buy their game and make 99% of their money.

            I’ll do what I please. They’re not pros. Try mastering a REAL sport and having required college and working your ass off since you could walk. They shouldn’t even be making any money, they play games just the way we do. Maybe if it was NOT a CoD game I’d have a different approach.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_sports

            e-Sports is not a sport, nor are e-Sports players athletes, so they’re not professional at what they do. They’re difference between regular professionalism, and sports professionalism.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            I’m not saying that fair is to balance all weapons, equipment, perks and kill streaks so they aren’t OP. Fair doesn’t have anything to do with me ability to win gunfights. I’m just as good as a player as you who analyses the situation on the go in order to control the gunfight and have a higher chance if winning it.

            Also, e-sports is a real thing according to the US Government. Late last year they announced that LOL is now a recognised e-sports and player will now be able to apply for visas. Some colleges are also making varsity LOL teams and giving away scholarships. This is something I hope to see happen for all game as it allows for people who like to play video games competitively a chance to succeed in life just as a jock who plays basketball or some other shitty sport can succeed.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Games aren’t supposed to be fair. That was my point.

            e-Sports is a real thing according to the Government! Such legit much wow! Video games aren’t a sport, and that is an objective claim. LoL is NOT CoD (even though it isn’t really a sport). CoD would never be a sport. If it were, I wouldn’t want to live on this planet anymore, because its inhabitants would suffer from retardation.

          • L00d3r

            You are equating eSports with sports. They are as different as mail and email. Try sending a mouse by email.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            e-Sports isn’t a sport period.

          • Muszic

            Holy shit you fuckin wrecked ?

          • L00d3r

            A professional is someone that makes a living off an activity. A bookkeeper is a professional, an engineer is a professional. eSports players are professionals by the definition of the word. They get most, if not all, of their remunaration from playing their games, and they spend countless hours every day practicing (more than most pro athletes). Just because theirs is not a physical activity does not mean they are not professionals.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            They’re not professional at sports because they are not athletes. They are not athletes because what they do requires 0% physical exertion. I stated the definition of professional SPORTS.

          • You got your source off of Wikipedia. Why not an actual dictionary site, and not a site ANYONE can edit?

            Here you go. http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/professional%20sports

            By ACTUAL definition, eSports is, in fact, a professional sport.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            It’s a site where it is heavily looked at. Anything that isn’t correct, is edited. Either taken out, or added unto. It’s a valid source for common things like definitions, which is why I posted the Wiki article.

          • And because of your Wiki article, I retort with an actual dictionary definition: http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/professional%20sports

            And if not that, how about from Merriam Webster: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professional

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Still not a legitimate argument. There’s a difference between Professional in terms of a profession or job, and Professional in terms of sports. I gave you the sporting definition.

          • Dude, sillibk is a troll. And watch out for kplem as well.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Are you serious? The Super Bowl can refute your claim. The World Cup can refute your claim. CoD e-Sports is not NEARLY as popular as the others.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            I completely agree that it’s not as big as The Super Bowl/World Cup, but it’s growing. I didn’t say it was going to be on the tv tomorrow, I said soon.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I don’t want it to grow, though (I sound elementary for that). I don’t want it to grow until the viewing experience is unpredictable, and until they stop banning things and play what we play on a daily basis for 8 hours.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            If you don’t like the viewing experience don’t watch it and stop complaining about it. Plenty of people enjoy it and want it to grow.

            Like I said before, what does it matter that in competitive games things are banned. You’re not the one playing competitively

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Yay more excuses! Just what I wanted! No, that’s not an option, don’t you want your viewing experiences to be improved? Or do you want lack of quality? If those people want it to grow with poor quality, then they are retarded.

            *facepalm* it’s not about me, it’s about the franchise. The franchise does NOT benefit from those guys playing at a dumbed down level. *sigh* more excuses…

          • I have not seen any excuses from Smile. You’re either delusional, or just flat out dumb.

            Competitive COD has been around since COD4 (probably even before that, someone can correct me.) And eSports in general have been around since 2001. Things have been restricted in every eSport game that’s been around.

            If you don’t like competitive rule sets, don’t play with those rules. If you don’t like eSports at all, stop commenting on eSports posts.

            It’s people like you, kplem, and everyone else who’s starting an eSport vs Pubs flame war that gives the Call of Duty community a bad name.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            No, you’re flat out dumb, for being biased. I’m the delusional one? Who’s biased for e-Sports? YOU.

            If e-Sports has to give restrictions, then it does not need to exist period. You’re literally fanboying over this shit. There’s no logical refute you can give.

            Don’t tell me what to do, you fucking brat. I have an opinion and I’m ALLOWED TO FUCKING POST IT. I can do whatever I want, you piece of shit.

            No, it’s the idiots like you who flat out defend and make up excuses for e-Sports, separating the communities, is what’s giving CoD a bad name. People in competitive yelling at their screens and jumping around like a retard in excitement whilst being on drugs is what’s giving the CoD community a bad name. Quickscoping fanboys on FaZe’s cock give this community a bad name, not me. It’s the people like YOU. Now shut the fuck up and fathom the fact that people have a different, more intelligent opinion than you.

          • blbsnipe

            Whats wrong with fanboying? I you are entitled to your opinion shouldn’t others be entitled to theirs, without receiving unnecessary hate? That being said no excuses for e-Sports here, I just enjoy them plain and simple.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            ex·cuse
            verb
            ikˈskyo͞oz/
            1.
            attempt to lessen the blame attaching to (a fault or offense); seek to defend or justify.)

            You’re basically justifying competitive gaming, and lessening the blame attached to it. What you’re doing is the definition of an excuse. Fanboying is a curse, and it’s a nightmare in the gaming industry. It’s, supposedly, blind, extreme brand loyalty. If you’re going to sit there and defend competitive all day without a decent enough argument to justify your reasoning, then I consider you a fanboy. The objectivity behind competitive gaming, is that it needs to be improved. Not only do the rules need to be improved in terms of making MLG NON-Barebones, it has to be improved in terms of the community and general support. If a gun gets patched because some “pro” wanted it to, such as the Bizon, then we have a problem.

          • blbsnipe

            Sorry let me rephrase. I enjoy e-Sports as a general concept, when it is executed correctly and doesn’t effect the ‘casual’ side of the game. So I enjoy e-Sports for games such as League of Legends or Dota. Sorry about not specifying that in my previous comment.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I’m fine with that.

          • Can we say you’re “fanboying” as well then?

            Also, the majority of the COD fanbase wanted the Bizon nerfed after its super buff.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I’m unbiased because I’m neutral. I have no blind brand loyalty, unlike you.

            Even if that were the case, IW still didn’t listen. Not a single patch was due to the casual community’s feedback.

          • https://community.callofduty.com/thread/200809776

            https://community.callofduty.com/thread/200800959

            Are you sure the non-esports players got nothing? I’m seeing otherwise. I’m pretty sure pros didn’t ask for Juggernaut and Loki buffs, the Mtar nerf, IED nerfs, and the MSBS nerfs, and the Bizon buff.

            What they DID ask for was 2-sided Dom, and the S&D bomb glitch to be fixed. It took IW until May to add in 2-sided Dom, and who knows when the bomb glitch will be fixed.

            The casual community asked for the nerfs/buffs. So if anything, Infinity Ward hardly listens to the competitive community. There will always be things for the pub players, like the single launcher that locks onto vehicles OR players in AW.

            Also, the “updates” eSports was given were things that should have been in the game since day one.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            “Pros” DID ask for the M-Tar and Bizon nerfs.

            No, Infinity Ward ONLY listened to the competitive community. The patches they put out weren’t even things that we wanted, they worked on the game themselves. Do you not notice Tina doing her job extremely poorly?

            No, e-Sports players don’t deserve anything.

          • If IW listened to the competitive community, there would have been Hardpoint, CTF, 3-lane symmetrical maps, SCOREstreaks, a functional S&D, and all of the esport “updates” would have been in from the start.

            Since you’re the self proclaimed “head of casuals,” what is it that you guys want?What is it that I want? Hm?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Finally.

            Anyway, IW made a stupid mistake in which they shouldn’t have done in the first place; Ghosts wasn’t made to be a competitive game. Then they made a half-assed competitive mode and then just left it. “Listening to competitive” does not mean that they have to put in ‘three laned maps, HP, CTF, etc.’ Those things aren’t even that great (besides maybe three-lane maps). A game isn’t magically good because it has those things in it. That’s stupid logic.

            Self-proclaimed? Are you stupid? I’ve never said that. Quit putting words into my mouth. I’m not the one with blind loyalty to competitive, which shouldn’t be in the game in the first place. I want a game where there is no community separation. You have to accept the fact that CoD wasn’t made to be a competitive game. What is it that YOU want? Shitty, non-flowing modes full of bullshit like Hardpoint and Capture the Flag? Banned guns? MLG is flawed.

          • I can agree with you on the fact that Ghosts Sucks. What I cannot agree with is that esports shouldn’t be in the game. If it has multiplayer, there will almost always be a competitive scene.

            I’m not blindly following anything. I’m a competitive gamer. I want to win. I want to play against the best. I want to BE the best. Anyone with 1/3 of that mentality can be considered a competitive gamer.

            The eSports rules can actually be fun. You said before you played League Play in Black Ops 2. To you, was LP fun?

            What I want? I want a balanced game that can be directed towards both communities, and for both communities to stop hating on each other and just get along. If the casuals and the comp. players could just start agreeing on things, then games like Ghosts would hopefully never happen again.

          • I would love for a Oddball-style mode in COD again (Team Defender in MW3.) And I would love a skill based playlist to be a staple in future CODs

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Competitive doesn’t belong in Call of Duty. CoD wasn’t a game that was built with a competitive scene. Promod was a side mode for good players that wanted a challenge. CoD is a casual shooter, not a competitive phenomenon like PC games. Competitive on it simply just does not work. When it separates our community, then you know that it’s effecting the franchise negatively, and that MLG needs to be improved.

            I’m completely different. I don’t care if I’m good or not, I just play games. But I still consider myself a hardcore gamer. I’m just a core CoD player because that’s how CoD was originally meant to be played. I hate competitive. I can’t stand it and what it stands for. It causes separation with communities and there are the competitive kids all around the internet acting like arrogant, pompous douche bags. I’m sick of it.

            League Play isn’t fun when you’re playing solo (with a random team) against an entire clan of headglitching objective campers. I played LP during BO2’s lifecycle and that happened to me. It’s fun when you aren’t facing clans and also when you hold your own. I didn’t play it because it was irrelevant and had a small player-base.

            I want a game with no community separation with balance to boot. Maybe AW, being built with competitive in mind (mind you), will be just that, but the first instance I see of competitive bans, is when I’ll stay with what I’ve been saying this whole time. MLG is currently flawed.

          • There’s only a handfull of pros that are arrogant. (Parasite, Aches, the entire Rise roster) Most are very respectable. (TeePee and Merk come instantly to mind)

            Competitive doesn’t work on COD? I’ve been watching past MLG events from 2009 and I would have to say it definitely does work. Though I am honestly not too sure where competitive COD first started out (PC or console?)

            I mainly played League Play solo, and I still did pretty well, even with below sub-par teammates.

            And with your previous gripe about headglitching, that’s been in COD for as long as I can remember. It boils down to the Quake engine.

            I’m looking at the confirmed list so far, and I can see 3 things that will most likely be banned, so your hopes of no restrictions is still just high hopes.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You’re just making up statistics. I’ve seen tons of arrogant, pompous MLG douche bags. Just look at Drama Alert. They take the game way too seriously.

            I disagree. It doesn’t work at all. Hardcore play in casual shooters like Call of Duty does not work at all, especially in Barebones form.

            Yes, I’ve done well in League Play multiple times. There’s still those annoying times where you play against clans. Now, it’s hard to find LP lobbies. If BO2 pissed me off a lot, that’s when I go to League Play.

            Headglitching is in all FPS games. Doesn’t mean it’s fun to play against it. Saying “yeah it’s on CoD because of the engine” and excusing it doesn’t really seem logical to me. Headglitching messes up the game’s movement [flow]. Saying it’s been in the game for as long as you can remember, doesn’t really justify anything.

            Then that is pathetic, and I will stand by the opinions I’ve had this whole time. That proves that MLG is just full of pussies.

          • There’s your main problem. You’re going off Drama Alert. Keemstar is not a great source, man.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Keem is a valid source for how immature the e-Sports community is. What better evidence is there other than images? Considering the fact that Keem’s Drama Alert series is or was going to be featured on MLG.

          • People were complaining about how Keem was getting an MLG channel and someone respectable like KingdomSoldier wasn’t. If you want an actual reliable esports source, Kingdom is probably your best bet, along with Nadeshot, Merk, Crimsix, and Teepee. Keemstar is the TMZ of esports. Keemstar looks for only the drama, and tries to cause drama.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I’ve been watching and supporting Keem (albeit not going to sit around like a little kid and make up excuses fanboying over him) for 2 years. It seems to me like he’s either delivering the news like he says, or he is trolling. Or both. Keem never starts drama on DramaAlert, he’s always neutral. Probably in other places, though, like with Woody.
            Still, there’s no doubt that the ‘competitive’ community is full of thousands upon thousands of immature douche bags that act like every other competitive douche bag.

          • And the competitive community wants nothing to do with those kinds of people. Biggest example of “immature douche bag” is Nihill.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You’d be surprised how many people act like ‘Nihill’ in competitive, though… Plus, these competitive guys go to events that are outside of the US competing, and it’s to the point where they’re not just setting an example for the franchise, but the country, and yet you still have these idiots yelling at the top of their lungs and jumping up and shit… Unjustifiable.

            Is this justified?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7HbCkU_-cM

            Should competitive be in the game NOW?

          • More intelligent? All of your responses are literally the same, with more and more profanity in each one.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Yours are biased, stupid claims, so who’s really in the “wrong”?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Again, no legitimate arguments.

          • Mario Rivera

            Mw2 was broken b4 the hackers lol

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You must be as stupid as the other competitive fanboys.

            The “best competitive game” was Black Ops 2? Yes, so far, and that’ll go to Advanced Warfare (ugh) when it’s released. You know that it was a good competitive game BECAUSE THEY BANNED SHIT, when the public game that WE played was total garbage? e-Sports added headglitches on the maps on BO2, which fucked up the fast movement and catered to cheap play. Treyarch (and IW) also focused more on patches for e-Sports than public play.

            “There is no correlation between COD games getting worse and e-sports becoming more popular” you’re daft. Is it just a coincidence that CoD’s sales have been going down for years? The same thing happened to Halo and Battlefield. I wonder. But that’s not the point I’m trying to display. You do know that Infinity Ward and Treyarch both completely ignored players and replaced the patches for public play for e-Sports instead? The Bizon could be used as an example. To say that e-Sports did not influence public play is extremely ignorant and is also an extremely biased claim.

          • Smile4TheKi1lcam

            First of all what’s so disgusting about Advanced Warfare?

            Saying that developers put head glitches in the game just to cater for competitive gameplay is seriously stupid. They would’ve been there regardless, it’s not like public players are too stupid to use them.

            Both BO2 & Ghosts have put out countless more patches for public matches than competitive. What’s the big deal if one patch out of hundreds is focused more on competitive than public? You can’t just tell the whole competitive community to get lost, just as we can’t say it to snipers (Unfortunately). If they tried to do that they’d lose so many players to other franchises or previous titles.

            COD sales dropping isn’t related to competitive at all. Almost exactly the same game is released every single year, this is something that a true committed COD fan will choose to move on from eventually. The sales are lowering because no one is innovating; did you read the post that said AW preorders went up 385% after the multiplayer reveal. People are interested in the innovation.

            I haven’t said once that it doesn’t affect the public play, I said that e-sports aims to balance the guns in the game and therefore public players should enjoy this as the guns that they want to use should be able to compete with eachother.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I don’t know. I’ve never played it. But if they ban anything, then I know that the game would be in trouble, since all they’d cater to is e-Sports. I know Activision. They’ve been using the same e-Sports cycle for 3 or 4 years.

            Oh really? That’s what three-laned maps are for… Competitive players ALWAYS use headglitches. I can tell that competitive players influenced map design on BO2, and it’s quite well known.

            Again, another million or two gone. That doesn’t really significantly lose Activision money, since they make BILLIONS a year. I’ve seen tons and tons of patches for competitive, and the Bizon was one of them. Why make a patch that significant just for competitive? THAT is my problem.

            I’m sure we could make that assessment, right…? It’s all speculation. And no, 385% of pre-orders going up doesn’t mean that it’s due to innovation, it just means that people who were unsure of the game until the multiplayer reveal pre-ordered. People who thought that CoD was the same game since the dawn of the franchise will continue to have that mindset. So many people are saying that the game is ripping off Titanfall and Halo, thus alters the reasoning as to why they’d play it. They think Sledgehammer aren’t original. Whether they’re uneducated or not, it doesn’t matter. 385%, and the pre-orders are STILL down. I just said that it’s due to competitive because there’s a strict cycle, and CoD IS dying, in which I’m pretty ashamed to admit.

            I thought that that statement was completely wrong, though. How does e-Sports positively effect the game by balancing it, when all they use are, like, 10% of the features, anyway? It doesn’t balance the game, they’d just choose 3 guns to use that are OP and make the others useless.

          • Whoa

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Best competitive COD game is BO2???LMFAOOOOOO!!! Mw2 is the most competitive cod.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That’s completely opinionated. BO2 had Gayarch sucking OpTic’s figurative penises.

          • whoa

            How do you regard any cod below 4 as the best XD that’s how you know you don’t know what your talking about. The most favored (by majority) best cods in the community are Cod4, mw2, and black ops 1 and I agree with it. Now in order of which one is the best i have my own opinion but those are the top 3.

          • Juicyjuice

            Instead of arguing what’s the best game, can we all agree Ghosts was and still is the worst game :/

          • Hostslayer

            Did you just say BO1 > MW2 for Comp?

        • Muszic

          Are you an idiot? MLG has been around since WaW. Lol I pray for you

          • CGkillZ

            It’s been since cod 4

          • Muszic

            Sorry, I knew it was somewhere around there.

          • CGkillZ

            Oh its fine man.

        • Super

          are you stupid? MLG started in COD 4, get the fucking facts before comment.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        You must be stupid. Competitive has been the primary focus for developers since Black Ops 2. It does NOT add strategy, it hurts the game, since they have to ban shit. LoL nor Starcraft ban a single thing.

        • Smile4TheKi1lcam

          LOL & SC don’t ban anything because nothing necessarily needs to be banned. The game is developed in a way that nothing is unbalanced and needs to be banned for competitive play. These games are just as focused on competitive as COD has been since BO2.

          Competitive adds plenty of strategy as well. You need to always be ahead of the curve finding new ways to get first bloods in SND, finding new nade spots and lines of sight, creating the best class for your role in the team etc. Competitive is the only way you can consider COD has strategy

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Nothing needs to be banned? Say that about the 10% of features being used on BO2 and Ghosts. Nothing is unbalanced, eh? So you can excuse the game being significantly dumbed down, separating the communities? It’s not my fault that the developers can’t think of a way to balance public matches. That doesn’t mean they resort to stupid things like taking out features to make the competitive kiddies happy. The games are just as focused on competitive as BO2, eh? That’s the issue.

            These are just excuses, not refutes. What a load of bullshit tbh. CoD is NOT a strategical game, that’s why e-Sports does NOT work on it. Why does e-Sports work for PC games? Because they don’t ban shit. The games were balanced to begin with, and they ACTUALLY, legitimately require strategy and add a challenge.

          • GodLikeLeftNut

            but in PC we’ve always put in promods, balancing weapons further and banning equipment. been doing this for years man were have you been? XD besides the pubbers have got all this 350 weapons things, dual lmgs, cloak, supple drops, proximity nades that isnt going to have anything to do with competitive :/

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Then that’s their problem. It shouldn’t exist, then.

          • Suu

            “I suppose they ban all that stuff to make it seem like barebone-ish and so no one can have the upper hand?..”

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Then that’s their own fault. Maybe they shouldn’t play CoD competitively since it has so much problems? Why play a dumbed-down, Barbones version?

          • A

            Banned Weapons
            SMAW
            RPG

            Banned Lethals
            C4
            Claymore
            Bouncing Betty

            Banned Tacticals
            Shock Charge
            Tactical Insertion

            Banned Attachments
            Launcher

            Banned Perks
            Ghost
            Hardline

            Banned Scorestreaks
            UAV
            Care Package
            Counter UAV
            Hunter Killer Drone
            Guardian
            Orbital VSAT

            Here’s a list of everything that was banned from comp in BO2. I didn’t know that was 90% of the game.

            As for the maps, the game had 15 maps and only 5/6 were competitively viable so that’s not catering to the competitive community. The competitive community chose those maps carefully because they were balanced.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Should they not play with everything period? If it’s a “balancing factor” that is the reasoning to these bans, then maybe either the game should be a more balanced game, or competitive shouldn’t exist. Why is CoD the laughing stock of this industry in terms of “e-Sports” Because it has to ban shit all the time. I don’t see League of Legends or Starcraft 2 banning a single thing.

            They ban weapons, as well. That’s still a lot of shit that they ban. In Ghosts, they only use 3 or 4 maps and 3 or 4 guns. Inexcusable. That is the DEFINITION of a dumbed down, inexcusable experience.

          • GodLikeLeftNut

            this guy gets it, the pubbers here who hate competitive are same as those who are like protos OP high temps OP because they tried fighting that strat with pure marines rather then countering. people are the same with CoD thermal OP use cold blooded, EMPS annoying use hardwire or trophy systems.

        • GodLikeLeftNut

          lol CoD has been competitive since its release. competitive changes was done by the community then not by developers

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Then that’s the problem. If it needs to be changed, then it shouldn’t exist at all.

          • GodLikeLeftNut

            so like LOL or SC2? but those games are solely focus on competitive use only lol but then even they get changes, SH arnt going to know the full effect of gun perks ect untill they get feedback millions

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Millions don’t follow competitive, hundreds of thousands do, and compared to the entire fanbase, that’s not much.

            You understand what you just said? What you stated is the 100% OBJECTIVE reason as to why competitive CoD should not exist.

        • they ban stuff on competitive play not pubs. They ban the OP bullshit that little kids who have never played before need to actually get a kill and not learn true skill at the game. And I was trying to say that since you said that COD has been bad since BO1 which is when Esports started going mainstream, the start of COD being bad (which was BO1) was not from Esports since it was not mainstream until AFTER the game was out.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Keep excusing what they play. Yes, I know whey they ban things, but that does NOT justify it. If the game is unbalanced for their liking to begin with, then maybe they shouldn’t play the game. BO1 didn’t have known e-Sports like BO2/Ghosts did.

          • Black Ops 1 didn’t have eSports?

            http://youtu.be/kkEEATNzv-Q

            You’ve been proven wrong.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Not quite like the stupid shit we see today where it ruined the franchise (fact).

    • pdan

      Is it just me, or are there lots of people who claim they don’t like something, yet seem to show up on every discussion board and comment section related to that thing as if they don’t mind wasting what precious little time they have on this earth going around and being a whiny hater?

    • CGkillZ

      I like esports but at this point of the game it’s not as fun to watch. I did enjoy this event. Watching denial kick envyus was great. I’m happy for them.

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      Or you have Tina playing Hearthstone, instead of fixing her shit game.

    • awkenney

      The e-sports folks are always going to recommend changes to the game that promote the best competition among teams or individual players. For the most part, I’d say the current majority of COD players out there aren’t looking for competition, they’re looking for accessibility. So quite often the e-sports folks don’t get what they are looking for and they suck it up because they know Activision controls the state of the game.
      That being said, I don’t think I’d care to play any game that takes away from playing to an objective or a score and the battle to succeed or fail. That’s the core basis of playing a human VS human game. It just happens that after 20-30 years of being told we’re all winners, we’ve lost sight of that ambition.

  • Muszic

    People say they don’t care for Esports *they comment on an e-sports post anyway* lol

    • FATHEAD661

      What better way to get your point across then to go to the source of things?

      • Muszic

        No one cares about your point bro

        • FATHEAD661

          And I should care what YOU think why?…

          • Muszic

            You replied to MY comment. Smh I’m done.

      • pdan

        “What better way to get your point across then to go to the source of things?”

        Probably to just ignore the source of things.

        • Duke of hazard

          Exactly.

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      Probably because people have the right to an opinion? e-Sports is trash. Done.

      • Run N Gunning Camper

        I would like them to have their own Playlist, have different gun tunings so their nerfs and buffs won’t affect the general public. Keep them separated and contained in their own world. They play a watered down version of the game and call themselves “Pros.”

        • RUSSIA!!!!

          You do realize a pro player would destroy anyone here on CI. Regardless of the game settings being used. They can pubstomp just like anyone else. The reason they “water down” the game is to make it more fair and balanced and to also remove anything that is random. In the end banning those things makes the game more skillful with less luck involved.

          • Run N Gunning Camper

            It doesn’t matter if they could pubstomp. The point is that they shouldn’t be dictating the nerfs and buffs. Give them their own separate mode so that their demands would not affect pub. Their idea of “balance” is not how the devs envisioned the game for the masses. The devs should be catering to the masses and not to the minorities like the Pros.

          • Duke of hazard

            “The point is that they shouldn’t be dictating the nerfs and buffs.” They don’t. That’s the community in general.

            “The devs should be catering to the masses and not to the minorities like the Pros.” Or they can just cater to everyone. I hate people with your kind of logic. OH THAT PERSON IS A MINORITY, IGNORE HIM!

          • Run N Gunning Camper

            A lot of guns were accepted by the masses. The Pros then ran their mouths about it being OP’d and they quickly got nerfed. The devs are obviously catering to these Pros when they shouldn’t. This is why they should have their own playlist with different gun tuning than the rest of the masses. It’s because they have a tendency to demand nerfs that effect everyone. They shouldn’t be dictating how a gun should be according to their needs.

            This is why I want a game mode for them. The devs would still be catering to their needs and they won’t be ignored. This way, the changes that applies to them will no longer affect the masses.

      • Muszic

        Good for you bud ?

      • blbsnipe

        E-Sports in itself is not trash. CoD e-Sports is. Games like League of Legends and Dota 2 and Starcraft have a more competitive atmosphere which greatly benefits from e-Sports. So I respectfully read your opinion and attempt to prove a point of my own.

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          e-Sports in general could be improved. Gamers are far more immature to be competitive on the internet. However, I’ve never played the big e-Sports games because competitive has never been my cup of tea.

  • Sundr0p

    Does anybody know anything about umg Nashville I live near the area I want to go

  • nolyn

    Can you guys ( Charlie Intel) be more involved with eSports? Please and thanks

    • Seven

      NO

    • Muszic

      Yes ?

  • Max Martinez

    How does OpTic keep making it into eSport events? They all literally suck now! They haven’t been relevant since 2012. Not even 12 year olds want to claim they are in OpTic anymore.

    • LOST. You’re talking out of your ass, don’t say anything about something you’re uneducated about.

    • Who won the Xgames? Who do I see people talk about non stop on MLG streams even when they’re not playing? OpTic. Im not trying to be mean or start a fight but OpTic for sure aint dead haha

      • Its like people who try and teach Latin in school. They are a enthusiast of a dead language. Just like there are some people who are fans of OpTic, they aren’t really dead but they just aren’t as good as they used to be.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        CoD e-Sports in general should be a dying concept.

  • OpTic Nation should have won Strikezone Domination against nV and they most likely would have won the search so the tournament could have had a drastically different ending had this game not been garbage. GGs to Denial though.

    • At least part of the OpTic family made to top 3.

  • Lotterry

    Esports is so dumb. The teams change every 3 months and there is little to no skill gap in cod and over the internet there is nothing competitive about just connection. If you like esports your a dumb teenager or an immature young adult

    • Muszic

      You’re dropped

    • GodLikeLeftNut

      the connection part kinda true. no servers for consoles and 32 tick rate makes a huge part of online play about luck, not just when the update was but also if lag comp favours you or the enemy. nothing fair in competitive then shooting the enemy first 4 times (which say would be a kill) and only 2 hits register, he doges and kills you, so you got killed because of that and not because at that moment you was out skilled, plus this crap is happens half of the time. its why so many CSGO players hate MM 64 tick. just its a lot worse on CoD (well since the days you could have DS to run higher rates)

    • Duke of hazard

      Man I hate esports, so I’m just gonna click on it (of all things on the Internet) and just bitch about it instead of ignoring it and going on with my life because that makes so much sense -.-

  • That one match against NV was amazing

  • GodLikeLeftNut

    ya’ll just need to chill.

  • Cheesecake

    cheesecake is the reason they won duh

  • thunder2,0

    wow wat happened to EG

  • Autocorrect

    UMG = Ur Ma Gurd! 😀

  • Guest

    Man I hate esports, so I’m just gonna click on it (of all things on the Internet) and just bitch about it instead of ignoring it and going on with my life because that makes so much sense -.-.

  • Super

    Nobody that regularly visits charlieintel is a casual player. Casual players wouldnt give a fuck. Stop referring to yourselves as casual players.

    P.S. If you’re a trickshotter, a feeder or a pubstomper, you also ARENT a casual player.