Following Sledgehammer Games’s tweet, Steam has updated the Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare product page confirming the minimum spec requirements for the game.

MINIMUM:
-OS: Windows 7 64-Bit / Windows 8 64-Bit / Windows 8.1 64-Bit
-Processor: Intel® CoreTM i3-530 @ 2.93 GHz / AMD PhenomTM II X4 810 @ 2.80 GHz or better
-Memory: 6 GB RAM
-Graphics: NVIDIA® GeForce® GTS 450 @ 1GB / ATI® Radeon™ HD 5870 @ 1GB or better
-DirectX: Version 11
-Network: Broadband Internet connection
-Hard Drive: 55 GB available space
-Sound Card: DirectX-compatible

Stay tuned for more information.

SOURCE: Steam

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  • YAY!! But then again, this is all we know about AW on PC. :

  • guestrits

    Hopefully it runs well and smoothly unlike Ghosts on PC :/

  • Seven

    People have to expect the PC versions of cod to be inferior to the console. Cod is designed for and made on consoles.

    • badoptimzation

      incorrect

      3 million sales is not to be joked about. also you incompetent clown pcs are more powerful than your puny console and always will be so the pc version is always better even on direct ports bcuz we get native 1080 with high fps and you dont.

      only thing inferior here is you

      • MeNed

        in your other comment you said its bad optimization. Its no knock against PC games but it seems like activision just doesnt care that much about their CoD PC ports

        • badoptimzation

          yes but he said we deserve and should expect it to worse. we should never have to expect that and we dont deserve it with 3 million copies selling on pc.

          • td90uk

            Yeah, we shouldn’t expect a well made game, not like we pay the same price as consoles for the game and get a vastly inferior product. Regardless of the companies motives, it still costs the same, it should be scaled as such. (Not to mention it costs more than a lot of other games on PC).

          • All COD ports are trash pretty much on PC. That annoys me and Im not even a PC gamer. IT’s sad that you should expect worse but it’s true. :/ You cant get mad at the console players because Activision doesnt care enough about PC

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            We’re not mad at the console players. We’re mad at them. We still need to pay the same as you guys and get a worse version.

            If it was at least it should be cheaper. But no. The problem is that Activision still releases the fucking god-awful versions full-priced.

            I know that CoD will stop releasing on PC. I just don’t know when that’s gonna happen. But I know it will happen eventually. If they continue this path, specially if AW is shit on PC, CoD will stop existing on PC. Look at games like Titanfall, the only problem that game had was being locked at 60fps. I wasn’t even expecting such a good PC version since it was the old Infinity Ward after all. Titanfall has a future on PC, but CoD really does not.

            Treyarch still makes decent/good PC versions, but the bad outweights the good, it has always been like that. There are 160 players on Ghosts currently playing it. The Stanley Parable has 185 playing currently playing it. A GAME WITHOUT A MULTIPLAYER THAT WAS RELEASED ALMOST A YEAR AGO HAS MORE PLAYERS PLAYING IT. A game that your objective is walk around and make choices while an AMAZING narrator talks to you. (The game is more than just that, but that’s the base of the game).

            That is how bad Ghosts is on PC. Now think about it. Would you guys still have faith on a franchise that the last 3 games were not only not up to par with the older installments in terms of gameplay but also looked really bad (lowest graphical settings) and still played like absolute shit?
            I mean look at games like The Walking Dead Season 1 where it froze from time to time on consoles and people were moaning about it (and had the reason to). Now think of that but in a multiplayer game where you need constant 60fps and no freezes to enjoy it but you can’t and there is nothing you can really do. I have one of the best rigs you can have and the game still froze like hell.

      • Siftblade of Rivia

        Just because PC gets native 1080p doesn’t mean it’s always better on PC. In fact, it’s mostly better on consoles. More players, less bugs, more attention (patches, buffs, nerfs, etc.), better ports, and so on. Plus the graphics aren’t even that big of a deal in COD, so saying the PC version is ALWAYS better because “pcs are more powerful than your puny console” is very ignorant.

        • TheShadowReaper

          you are WRONG! Shifty. the PC version, even with the worst porting that can exist, is always superior to the console versions, no matter what. simply because of superior controls (kb & mouse) and the ability to change your settings to your liking, being able to create the best experience for yourself!

          and the “pcs are more powerful than your puny console” is a true statement. maybe not elaborate or intelligent, but its true.

          • CGkillZ

            What you said may be true but consoles get more attention and for the past few years cod on pc has sucked ass.

          • TheShadowReaper

            the only COD game that has sucked ass on PC is Ghosts. before that we had no real big problems. especially with BO2 which is probably the optimized COD game on PC to date. but Ghosts left a bad taste in our mouths so we are really loud this time around. we love our COD too. its not like the console players are the only ones that deserve COD. its a multiplat and the best selling multiplat too, its a must to have good opt for every platform. they make billions each year.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            The best selling multiplat is GTA V and it isn’t even out on next gen/PC yet, the sales are going to skyrocket even more.

            Black Ops 2 was a decent port, but was still missing some settings. But saying that Ghosts is the only poorly optimized CoD game for PC is wrong. Modern Warfare 2, Black Ops 1, Modern Warfare 3, and Ghosts all had sub-par ports with small player basis.

          • TheShadowReaper

            you have no idea what you’re typing. please, get informed before you type that bullshit!

            and yes, not GTAV is the best selling game but i didnt mention cause i’ll had to type two more rows and i’m lazy.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Really? So MW2 and BO1 didn’t have bad ports? It’s a fact that this has been an issue for years, BO2 didn’t even have that good of a port.

          • TheShadowReaper

            BO2 was an amazing port! ok, end of discussion. you have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. its crystal clear now.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            “amazing”? I guess you don’t know what the definition of that word is. Compare it to, say, Battlefield 4 or 3’s optimization and it’ll get demolished.

          • TheShadowReaper

            huh…what you say now? i could run BO2 on a dual core. trying running BF3 and BF4 on that. xD

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Lmfao the graphics in Black Ops 2 weren’t even good.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            And by the way, how many petitions have you signed?

          • TheShadowReaper

            about what? that’s a very generic question

          • Guest

            ,

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That’s what I thought.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Don’t you want to compare Doom to Crysis 3 aswell?

          • TheShadowReaper

            wasnt me that made a stupid comparison. or are you a butthurt BF fanboy too? except for the hate mail that you gave me. you sound like a sissy girl in that one.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Stupid comparison? You compared Black Ops II to Battlefield 4.

            I only exaggerated your comparison.

            Hate mail? What hate mail? Am I a spam bot and I don’t even know it :O ?

          • TheShadowReaper

            look at @sillibk:disqus ‘s posts and learn who made the comparison. i merely replied to correct this inaccuracies.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            He compared optimization. You compared performance.

          • TheShadowReaper

            uhh…do you even know what optimization is? do you even?

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Yes, I know, but you don’t seen to know.

            That’s why I only commented that and didn’t say that optimization is not performance.

            Bad Company 2 runs better than Battlefield 4 performance-wise. But Battlefield 4 is much more optimized.

            I know what I’m talking about, I work on that…

          • TheShadowReaper

            look BO2 and Ghosts. two games running on the same engine. you can max out BO2 in a relatively good PC. for Ghosts you need a Titan to max it out, or maybe one of these new Nvidia’s 9xx series. optimization isnt just bugs, glitches and menu scripts. its about how well you can make the game run and use up as less resources as possible. else every game would wanted a Titan to run.

            yeah, i believe you, you work on that…how obvious.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Yes.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            wut

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            That Battlefield demolishes CoD in terms of optimization.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I forgot what the conversation was about lmao.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            We weren’t talking about anything. I just agreed with you that Battlefield is much more optimized than Call of Duty (on PC at least)

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Oh okay, because I only reply on the Disqus notification bar and I didn’t want to take all that time to click on the link and see what the discussion was about. Thanks for elaborating.

          • Brandalf

            I’m sorry but as a fellow PC gamer could you please STFU and stop making us all look like arrogant asses? BO2 was a decent port at best when compared to what we had with COD2/COD4/WaW and even BO1.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Yes, he is that type of person that responds and comments on everything game related with the insults and judgement already on his mind. And that’s why people think what they think about PC gamers. The normal PC gamers don’t usually comment, it’s these assholes that are always commenting, and that’s why people only see these guys and assume everyone is like this.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Nah, BO2’s port was pretty good. If Advanced Warfare is as good as BOII I will be golden, since CoD on PC isn’t good.

            It really depends on the game. If a Battlefield game released for PC and it was like BOII, I would lose my shit. But the BF franchise has been pretty good on PC, BC2 aside which as a masked console port (still ran pretty good).

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            BTW I don’t want PC guys to have a restricted experience, that’s not what I’m trying to say (not saying that you think that).

          • James Veach

            GTA V is not a franchise. GTA is a franchise you twit. Also
            Mario is the highest selling and grossing game franchise of all time. You try to sound smart, but everything you type is utter bullshit.

          • Brandalf

            BO1 and MW2 both had over 100k concurrent users daily at their peaks. MW2 was about as lazy of a port as you could imagine; but it was still more well optimized than Ghosts. BO1 wasn’t the best in terms of optimization but it brought back the features PC gamers wanted back in the series from COD2/COD4/WaW.

            I do agree completely with you about BO2. People always praise it but in the grand scheme it’s just a decent console port with an FOV slider and graphics options. It was still missing what the PC community wanted back which is a console command line, server browser, rentable servers, mod tools, etc.

            Steam has more active accounts than both XBL and PSN; so the potential playerbase is there; the devs just need to deliver is all 🙂

          • TheShadowReaper

            when COD on PC has “sucked ass” mate? when it was perfectly optimized with BO2? when it was decently optimized with MW3? you dont play COD on PC, you dont know how it has been, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT IT! ok? ^^ and let PC gamers talk about COD on PC. we have played on PC, you havent. we know about it, you dont.

          • Wow you’re just a whiny little bitch who can’t take “my opinion differs from yours” for an answer. Go join the fucking tumblr feminists. You’ll fit right in b.

          • CGkillZ

            Everybody told me that pc sucks on ghosts, bo2, and I know for a fact it sucked on mw3 cause everybody bitches about it. Chill the fuck out I wasn’t talking shit about your precious pc lol. So guess what mate FUCK YOU.

          • TheShadowReaper

            everybody eventually joins the bandwagon and claims that “COD sucks”. you get the same from console players, you get the same from PC players. how you misinterpreted hate about the game as hate about the optimization of the game, i dont know. and yes, fuck you too.

          • CGkillZ

            It’s not a bandwagon. People just relize shit. Cod is going downhill very fast. Nothing lasts forever. Cod was lucky to stay as big as it did for that many years. Everybody says that cod on pc is fucked up. They don’t get the good patches and just aren’t as strong as the consoles. And the reason for that is money. Not that many people play cod on pc as much as console. That’s why. I’m not talking shit about your precious pc lol. I said something so small like pc doesn’t get support so cod on console is generally better and you flip out like a whiny little bitch.

          • TheShadowReaper

            “everybody” where is this everybody you’re talking about? BO2 has received the best reception on PC since MW2. i like how you base your thinking on 1 or 2 people (if these even exist) and claim that COD sucks on PC. no, it doesnt suck. its the best on PC. its an FPS game and we have the option to play with a k/b and mouse. exactly how an FPS game should be played. i flip out cause you say things that arent true, not even a bit.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            I’ve argued with you multiple times about this, and I’m not doing it again. It’s a waste of my time, and you’re obviously not going to change your mind, so even though I disagree, I simply don’t care.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i dont need to change my mind or my opinion cause its not an opinion. its the truth. but take as you will, accepting the truth is hard for people it seems.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            No, it’s your opinion about what platform is the best. Down to the core, that is an opinion. I could say Wii U is the best platform, and that is my opinion. Because even though the FACTS say PC is more powerful, my OPINION is that Wii U is better for multiple other reasons. I don’t like Wii U, this is just an example. I don’t care what you think is the best platform, it’s just your condescending attitude that annoys everyone when you talk about PC, just saying.

          • TheShadowReaper

            “I could say Wii U is the best platform, and that is my opinion” yes, its YOUR opinion. i bring you mere facts. you cant blame me if you are in denial Sift. every single one of you are. although i’m not prohibiting you from playing on your peasant boxes. i just give you facts and expect you to accept them. but fanboys use no logic, which of course means that their box is immune to facts all of a sudden. you may like living as an ignorammus Shift but i dont. not all of us are content with the lies that MS and Sony and Nintendo are serving us on a plate.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Smh I give up. No point. Also, my username doesn’t have an h in it.

          • TheShadowReaper

            edited* now its typed as the original. 🙂

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            PC isn’t sunshine and rainbows, either. You really think that Valve gives a fuck about you? At least I know what to expect; significantly better first party developers with the PS4 and Wii U.

            You aren’t bringing “facts”, you’re bringing arrogant nonsense like that of what the generic PC player does.

          • TheShadowReaper

            said the generic console slave?

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Keep on proving the reasons as to why the PC “fan”base is shit.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            It’s funny how irony works now isn’t it?

            You know what the word “hypocrite” means?

            You’re the generic PC hater. “PC is more expensive (depends, and it is not on the long run), they are always asking for stuff that I don’t know what they are or why they need it, I don’t see any interest on this game because it is a PC exclusive, they’re always moaning for no reason, yada yada yada). Why do you continue to engage on debates that you know little to nothing about.

            I am as much as a PC Gamer as a console Gamer. I’m still very active on my PS3.

            I like both of them but I like PC way more than console.
            I was a console gamer until 2 years back, when I switched to PC gaming. Never regretted it.

            Not only that but everyone that I’ve seen switching to PC now enjoys PC way more. Many Youtubers aswell. (SeaNanners, Sark, GassyMexican, Hutch (although he still plays on Xbox)The SyndicateProject, etc)

            And yes, you do see many PC players saying that the PC is better, but they are usually responding to people like you. Condescending pricks. There are idiots that just like to say “PC is better, fuck PS4/XBONE” but guess what, there are a lot of concole gamers who do that aswell.

            Just people muslims flew a plane into some towers doesn’t mean that every muslim will do that. Just because many robberies and gang related crimes (in America) are “usually” commited by Black/hispanic people doesn’t mean that every black/hispanic person is a criminal. I could go on and on.

            BTW I’m not defending Shadow, since I don’t really like how he is representing the PC community.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That’s funny, because I play PC, too. I’m just proving to Shadow that PC gaming isn’t as good as he thinks it is. I personally find PC to be much weaker than consoles, because hardware isn’t everything.

          • James Veach

            Shadow is the king of you tards. You have potential to be smart. Reseach your topic more and you will be.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I am smart. Smarter than the average. But many gamers (like you and me) are more intelligent than the average human. At least that’s what I see on a daily basis.

          • James Veach

            I don’t think it’s a matter of intelligence as much as it is a matter of being able to view issues from multiple points. Maybe that in itself is intelligence.

          • ScOott

            I don’t normally agree with anything u say but this guy is an arragont **** who thinks he’s god because he has a p.c

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            When have we not agreed?

          • ScOott

            Not so much not agreeing I duno I just avoided saying anything on your comments after the whole ” joke” u came up with about me must being a kid with no education after not being interested in the lecture video about the development of the game (face palm)

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Oh XD that’s what I say to any random person I don’t know who makes posts out of the blue, it was a wrong assumption.

          • kplem

            i agree with you on this

          • James Veach

            The day you guys get rid of your hackers and other dumbass gimmicks will be the day I switch to pc.

          • TheShadowReaper

            havent seen a hacker for years. also, gimmicks are what consoles use. Kinect and Move anyone?

            time to move to PC buddy.

          • James Veach

            Are we discussing Call of Duty on console/pc? Or console vs pc pick your arguement buddy, and prepare to take a seat.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i have a seat, i play games on my desk. didnt catch you surprised on that i hope.

            any game. doesnt matter. better on PC, no hackers. and if you see any hackers its probably the last time you see them too. VAC system sees to that.

          • James Veach

            LOLOLOLOLOL You must be blind or currently playing offline on steam because there is a shit load of hackers on PC. You can argue that i’m wrong if you want to try, but when you and I both know that PC has the most hackers. Followed by Wii, then playstation, then xbox. That should be no surprise if you look at the lengths you have to go to mod each. PC you just have to know the right people and have the right software. Wii you have to download software onto a flash drive and home brew your console the same goes to the playstation but you may also need tinker with your hardrive and update versions. Finally you have Xbox where you have to know the right people download the right things but also physically modify your hardware, buy extra parts, and piece them together. Also to give you a background on myself I am currently studying to design games on pc. In fact right now im supposed to be setting up a rig for a character model. However, I am here.

            TLDR: YOU’RE A DUMBASS

          • TheShadowReaper

            ” PC you just have to know the right people and have the right software” pff, what is this? a political movement? have to know the right people, you’re ridiculous! xD

            and yea, your tldr perfect describes you.

          • James Veach

            You calling me a dumbass?… Okay first off you said GTA V was the highest selling gaming franchise of all time, secondly you said consoles cannot achieve 1080p, thirdly you said there are no hackers on pc. You are the fucking pure, and I mean PURE definition of a dumb ass. You must be 13 years old or something.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i corrected that. stop bashing me for just one mistake.

            no, consoles cant achieve 1080p in most multiplats. of course if they couldnt achieve 1080p in their exclusives that’s an epic fail. cause they are exclusives. they are “supposed” to take more time to take advantage of the system’s power and resources.

            10 years older, 23. i still dont see you refuting any of my points. you can hurl at me as many insults as you like but as long as there’s nothing factual about your insults dont expect me to take you seriously.

          • James Veach

            I have provided a rebuttle to all of your childish arguements. You may want to grab a few more PC friends so that this arguement will be remotely fair, because you are incappable of producing an intelligent thought.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Let’s end this.

            There is no evidence that PC has more hackers. But you can use logic, common sense to assume that since it is easier to get the hacking tools/programs. Then again, the PC has a better anti-cheat system that can be updated in no time.

            Also depending on the game. I can assure you that Ghosts on PS3 has more hackers than Battlefield on PC. Never had an encounter with any hacker on BF4. But I’ve encountered some hackers on Ghosts (PS3) (The PC version is atrocious, I have what, 40h in Ghosts maybe, found more hackers than my entire life in BF). Not only that, but I have played BF4 for 340h and I’ve played maybe around 10h on the PS3 version of Ghosts?

            Meaning that I would likely run into many more hackers if I’ve logged more 330h into it.

            Fun Fact: I have a relatively close friend that knows a shit-ton of hackers and personally knows a guy (a friend of his, I guess) that has a Homebrew’ed PS3 and he hacks people’s accounts for money. Like he will inject hacking tools into your PS3 (don’t know how you do that shit) and you’ll have a MENU and shit on the desired game. I saw my friend mess around with that on MW2, back in the day when I was primarly a console gamer.

            So, to sum up. It is easier to get hacking tools on PC, there are many websites that distribute that shit, but if you know the right people on PSN, you can get hacking tools without a problem.

            On PC is easier to get the hacking tools, but you will get banned way more quickly. On console it is harder to get hacking tools, but you won’t get hacked so easilly. So both balance each other.

            So let’s think like this: If you want to cheat in a game, you will search on the internet for it and you will come accross websites for that, both PC and CONSOLE based. So if you really want to cheat, you’ll find a way, either way.

            BTW: If you want a PC just to play CoD then don’t even bother. But if you are willing to play other games, you won’t find any hackers, that depends on the game.

          • James Veach

            Your friend is infecting other console ip’s with a mod menu that they can use when they are host. It disables when the console is turned off. This can be done on pc as well. The added benefit to hacking on pc is that there are a lot more discreet hacks. Things that don’t show up on kill cams ie: Infinite radar, oracle, perk modifiers, and gun modifiers.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Again, Call of Duty. As I said, depends on the game.

            Call of Duty will always have hackers, on any system. It is by far the game with most hackers. I mean the franchsie itself.

            The franchise comes right after WarZ on the hackers-count.

            There was a time where a shit game named WarZ (now Infestation MMO) that was soo broken and full of hackers, that decent people actually started cheating because they had no choice. There was a rummor or something that said that 90% of the users where cheating.
            My cousin, which never cheats, had no choice but to download a cheating program. Got banned, and he says that it was amazing that he got banned. That game was atrocious.

            It’s funny because they changed the name since the name WarZ was soo dirty and they changed it to a more appropriate name. Infestation – as the game is infested with bugs.

          • James Veach

            Call of Duty is high on that list because of it’s competative nature but not the highest. And I know about infestation but I never had any hopes for that game anyways. Also how much work in ur4 have you done?

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I’ve been messing around with it since what, June maybe?

            I was working on some stuff in Unity, but it was very limiting.

            The Blueprint is an amazing feature. It’s a thing that should be adapted in the market. It is amazing if you get any problems with your blueprint because that kinda tells you what it is. The only problem is that it is 10x slower than C++.

            I’ve done some meshes with different poly-counts to see how it handles them. Haven’t done anything crazy. I’ve made a snow shader (similar to The Division’s) and some wavy grass fields. I’m figuring out the UMG and how animations work. Haven’t done much lately in UE4, I’m now learning about dynamesh and how to PROPPERLY use it in ZBrush.

            But UE4 is a really amazing engine.

          • James Veach

            Do you work in code developement or has this pursuit been on your own time?

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Own time. But I’ve been learning, slowly. The only problem is, since I work, I don’t have much time. Plus I still have my life to worry about so I don’t have much time to learn and mess around with programs as much has I wanted to.

            My grades were good (have 100% in Math, which is one of the most important grades for anything Tech related) so I’ve been trying to get a course so that I get a change to go to University and learn Game Design.

            I’m currently living in Switzerland, and German isn’t an easy language to learn. I’m still thinking in moving to England, since my English knowledge is quite good. I would love to get a change but with the knowledge that I have in the German language, I would go far. I’ve been living in Switzerland for around 4 years now.

            I’ve also been thinking in making a game or something along those lines so that I could get some “spotlight” and maybe get hired or get an internship somewhere.

          • James Veach

            If you are good you could possibly tag along with a group of indie devs. Most AAA studios require a four year degree unfortunately. Maybe sometime I could give you a few rigged gun aninimation pieces and see what you do with them in ue4. If your work is solid and I do a bit in ue later this year I could throw you a bone on some small projects.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Thanks man 😉

            This Saturday I’m also going to a UE4 devs meet-up ( http://www.meetup.com/Game-Developers-Zurich/events/196455452/ ) and I’m gonna try and find a Dev team who’ll accept me. No money, just to learn. I would work and learn from them and then maybe get hired, or at least get a certificate or a recommendation. After that I might start my own project and we’ll see how it goes.

            It might seem stupid to work for them costless, but it can’t go better for me.

            Can’t even imagine learn what I most love, damn! I’m not really a fan of texturing, but I might become once I learn how to do it without problems) but I love doing meshes and coding, blueprints only for now. I’ve been reading “Programmin-Principles and Practice Using C++”. Still have the Bible of C++ books to read “C++-The Complete Reference” and some more.
            With time and efford I think I can get there.

          • James Veach

            I hope you are correct in saying that your cheat provention is good at least better then the later 2000’s. However there are many many ways to adjust your games values if you know how to edit scripts/codes and have a tool to do so. Also you must admit that the pc community is the least grateful of all.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I won’t admit anything. Why is PC the most ungrateful of all? Because we get shit ports that freeze everytime the character moves?

          • James Veach

            No because you guys make it difficult to keep balance in games and you often exploit things within them. Not to mention the whole piracy thing. It is way more prominent than you believe. I actually just did a sort of case study for a group analysis presentation the other day where I interviewed different game developers and publishers. Not only is piracy a problem to AAA titles but it is a major problem for indie devs too. In fact several small and I mean SMALL time developers are bankrupt or about to be because the games they publish produce little and most of the time their games are pirated almost 6 times as much as they are legally downloaded! 6 times as much! and these are unheard of developers, it’s crazy!

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Has nothing to do with being ungrateful.

            And that’s bullshit, most games sell more than they get pirated.

            Piracy is a problem yes, but it will never go away. Not only that but console gamers pirate too.
            It’s not a matter of who “pirates” more.

            Just because Zedong killed more people doesn’t mean that Hitler is a better person than him.

            Look at the Standley Parable, that game sold like crazy, indie game. The Forest, Rust, fucking ‘The Stomping Land’ for fuck sake… People will throw money at anything.

          • James Veach

            I’ve seen the numbers for my self. Im not a giant anti piracy advocate I’m just saying it effects small and large games alike. Also I don’t think you can pirate next gen games at this time. You’re right it is not a matter of who pirates more, because PC and Mobile are the only ones that really effect the market. Also I did retrieved that information with my own work I did not pull those stats from anywhere. A game may start at a 50/50 ratio maybe 70/30 if you are lucky, but it may take a while for the mainstream market to grab it and take the ratio to 90/10.

          • James Veach

            Also playstation holds about as much ground in anti-hacking as nintendo. They are shit teir when it comes to prevention and prohibition.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            To be fair with or without facts, I never saw you change opinions. I’ve had countless arguments with you. Remember a user named “Storm_Worm5364”? That was me…

            I don’t have anything against you, but you really need to start listening to people’s opinions.

          • TheShadowReaper

            fair or not doesnt matter to me. facts do.

            and although i dont remember the convo with this Storm whatever, dont you have anything else better to do than make fake accounts on top of your originals? are you that desperate that you are trying to pummel me with mindless spam hate just because i use facts? wow, i’m losing faith to humanity more and more with each passing day. we are doomed. human stupidity is going to rule us all unfortunately.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            What? Fake accout names, I’ve had this account name since begin of this year. You know, people like to change usernames once in awhile.

            “fair or not doesnt matter to me. facts do.” -What? I said that you don’t change, with or without facts, not to be fair or not.

            Spam hate? I haven’t confronted you since forever, and that’s the reason why. You always assume stuff instead of using your brain.

            Not only that but you are without a doubt one of the most discusting people I’ve ever known. I pray to Charles Darwin to never meet a person like you, because you are the lost of faith in Humanity, you are what’s causing hopelessness and showing how people can be really stupid. You use insults as a way to boost your undeserved ego.

            To sum it all up, you’re a condescending, futile, vain, nonsensical, dim-witted, pseudo-intellectual fuck.

          • TheShadowReaper

            and you are just an insecure kid that hurls mindless insults to others because you think that this is the way for your insecurities to vanish. truly pitiful.

            and dont use Darwin’s name to make your flawed reasoning sound legit. you are staining his name.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Flawed reasoning? There is nothing flawed about my reasoning.

            You are condescending, you are futile, you are also vain and nonsensical, you are dim-witted and a pseudo-intellectual. All of this can be proven with your own words. And I’m not alone on this one.

          • TheShadowReaper

            yes, you and your army of internet degenerates are ready to marsh against me! xD ahahahahaha…what a joke. thanks for the laugh though.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            You’re welcome, pseudo-intellectual cunt.

            Love you! <3

          • kplem

            yeah he said i should be hung publicly because i said i cant wait for GTA V on PC and how im a disgrace like haha that proved to me that there is something insanely wrong with him, he must have sex with his PC

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I’m not even gonna bother with him anymore. He has his own Hipster opinion. Never saw him change his mind so don’t even bother. It’s like trying to make a religious person see the facts or at least believe in something other than “God dun did it” (sorry if you’re religious).

          • kplem

            yeah true (first part), we are talking call of duty here and games in general don’t bring up religion into this because tbh you said “facts” when you haven’t got any proof to make it fact that god doesn’t exist. don’t want this to get into a debate about beliefs please.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            You don’t have to prove that God doens’t exist. Religion has the burden of proof. They are the ones making the extraordinary claim.

            Example:
            _________________________________________________
            Religion: I have a golden Apple.
            Me: I don’t believe that you have a golden Apple.
            Religion: PROVE TO ME that I don’t have the golden Apple!
            _________________________________________________

            Does that make any sense? The religion has to show me the golden Apple or something that will make it obviously that they have a golden Apple.

          • kplem

            please dont start a beliefs war, i have plenty of defenses but not here please we are talking cod here and games. lets go back to how cod is better on PC :D. oh BTW http://teknogods.com/ go to this site they have MW3 with ranked dedicated servers on a server browser 24/7 dome servers and more, i was playing blackpulse 24/7 dome server TDM up to 30,000+ very fun got an AC130

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I don’t want to start anything, I just answered your question.

            Meh, I never liked MW3. I still play a shit-ton of MW2 though xD

          • kplem

            good! MW2 fourdeltaone was the best good lord 18 players on nuketown AC-130 and nuke

          • James Veach

            And yes if you know the right communities your modding resources are greater that is just common sense.

          • TheShadowReaper

            the modding community arent the hacker police! you have no idea what you’re talking about, do you now?

          • James Veach

            WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU READING? Is english your second language. You misunderstood every part of that sentence you twat.

          • TheShadowReaper

            “You can argue that i’m wrong if you want to try, but when you and I both know that PC has the most hackers.”

            followed by

            “And yes if you know the right communities your modding resources are greater that is just common sense.”

            english is my second language, mind you asshole. but still…what do you think a modding community can do? they can improve the game yes but why even bring them up after talking about hackers? and its not like the modding community is hiding and special modders are available to me that arent to you. every modder does what he does for free and his mods and available for download for free. just a google search. or is it so difficult now to google search? you are talking and talking but i dont see much more than bullshit coming out of your mouth. its clear that you do not have knowledge or understand of PC gaming in general i i will very politely ask you, stop talking about it! thank you in advance. good day.

          • James Veach

            You have merely scratched the surface of what is naturally a diverse group. Not all modders or hackers reveal everything publicly. There are many things you don’t understand. I’ll have you know that I enjoy both pc and console communities. If you don’t want to be treated harshly then don’t act like a retarded cunt.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i’m not here to educate you by posting text walls about PC gaming. of course we’ve only scratched the surface of the monster that is called “PC gaming”. i understand everything just fine. and that’s what is great about PC gaming. everyone can make his own experience, mods, no mods, FOV at 90 or at 110, and countless other things. you enjoy both communities, good for you, although i cant see how you enjoy the console community seeing as there is always bickering between them (especially the XBox vs PS wars). its not about being treated harshly, i treat idiots like you harshly. but if between the insults there is no substance and facts (which of course there isnt) then what is the point? did you come here to burst out your anger somewhere? that’s what i see. unlike what i do, which is bash upon anyone who spits inaccuracies and lies.

          • James Veach

            You ignore all the facts I have given. You are ignorant.

          • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

            Seriously ? Is it cool designing games ?

          • James Veach

            I am still in college so I have not been able to work on finished pieces. However, I can say that the work I have done so far has been very rewarding. I work in the artistic side of the feild so I am responsible for character creation, concept art, modeling, rigging, and animating. The other side of the field is the developement side so coding, writing scripts, creating ui, and tweaking physics. If you are better with art I would look into game art. If you are better with math and code creation, I would look into game developement.

            Cheers.

          • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

            I m ok at maths but my teachers and friends say that I draw really well and designing games is my dream job lol.I am also good at writing xD.

          • James Veach

            What kind of drawing do you do?

          • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

            I like to draw human bodies and then “customize” them with clothes,hair,eyes,etc.I also like to draw humans,monsters,superheros,characters from games and so on .

          • James Veach

            As long as you have a good understanding of anatomy you can be a good character artist. Perfect your scale hands, heads, feet etc. Study color composition in your media both in games and animation. If you are truly passionate about it you can do it. Also when creating your work only take the bare ideas from your peers don’t focus on their final results, only the thoughts that led them their. This will make your art and product stand out from the rest.

          • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

            Yea I m going to give my best xD thank you for the advices.

          • Brandalf

            I saw more cheating on console than I ever have on PC; that’s one of those myths about PC gaming like “all PC gamers are pirates” or “all PC gamers are basement dwelling neckbeards”, etc.

          • James Veach

            I don’t know what games you have been playing or if hacking is more discreet now. As I see it on some games there may be more hackers on console but almost always the percentage of hackers on pc is larger then on console.

          • Brandalf

            When talking about a new generation such as the Xbone/PS4 early on; you’re right. It takes a bit of time for modders to properly “crack open” new consoles. But comparing the 360/PS3 to PC it’s really no contest. In all my times playing COD on PC over the last 3 years I’ve encountered maybe 6-8 legitimate cheaters; I encountered countless cheaters in MW2/MW3 on both PS3 and 360. I’ve encountered 2 or 3 on PC in MW2.

            Obviously each individuals experiences will vary though and there’s really no direct science behind it.

          • Primey_

            Maybe you should then play a game with a good anti-cheat and stop blaming people who outclass you as cheating

            FYI consoles get cheaters as well. BO2 is a mess

          • James Veach

            I’m not seven years old. Hacking and cheating are very different. I can play fine on PC. Granted i’m not as good on PC as I am console but I can still hold a 2.5 with ease.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Then switch to PC. Because I’ve been playing Black Ops II on PS3 and damn… In the last week I’ve found AT LEAST 4 hackers.

            Never found one on PC, but I’m sure that I’ve already played with some and that there are a shit-ton of them on PC aswell. CoD has never been good at keeping hackers away.

          • James Veach

            That’s ps3…..I don’t play ps3 for that very reason. I play Xbox One and some casual PC. I don’t play competitive games on PC because it is too easy to modify your stats and get ahead. The only competitive games I would recommend on PC are MoBa’s because you are more unlikely to run into malicious problems.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Nah man. On still play BF2, never found an hacker there, BC2 never found hackers there, BF3 found one hacker called “FICKMEIMFAMOUS”, he is famous because he hacks in every game.
            in BF4 I never found any hacker.

            Now to Steam games:
            Arma 2 – never
            Arma 3 – never
            Black Ops – some
            Black Ops II – some
            Ghosts – many
            MW2 – 1 at the time, many now (it’s normal, the game’s 5 years old)
            MW3 – many’er
            Global Offensive – none
            DayZ – 1 or 2
            DayZ MOD – 1
            GMod – none
            GTA 4 – none
            Hawken – none
            Insurgency – none
            Loadout – none
            L4D and L4D2 – none
            Natural Selection 2 – none
            Nosgoth – none
            Payday – none
            Payday 2 – 1
            Rust – none
            Battlefront II – none
            TF2 – none
            Gotham City Impostors – none
            War Thunder – none
            Warframe – none
            Sanctum 2 – none

            Since most MOBAs are free, I’m gonna guess that those have a shit-ton of hackers aswell. You can simply create accounts, and accounts.

          • James Veach

            I’m only going to reply with a rating of hackers (not ratio, just relative to other games) and only in regards to games that are with active support, because once a game loses active/proactive support anyone and everyone will hack it. I also am putting mods that effect multiplayer experience in here too. (PC ONLY)

            Arma 3 – 3/10
            Black Ops II – 7/10
            Ghosts – 6/10
            MW3 – 9/10
            Global Offensive – 5/10
            DayZ – 6/10
            GMod – 7/10
            GTA 4 – 9/10
            Hawken – N/A
            Insurgency – N/A
            Loadout – N/A
            L4D2 – 8/10
            Natural Selection 2 – N/A
            Nosgoth – N/A
            Payday 2 – N/A
            Rust – 5/10
            TF2 – 3/10
            Gotham City Impostors – 5/10
            War Thunder – N/A
            Warframe – N/A
            Sanctum 2 – N/A

            Keep in mind not all hacks are obvious or immediately visible. Discrete hacks/modifications are the trend these days.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Damn, BLACK OPS II 7/10? That means that more half of your rounds have hackers? Nah, that can’t by right.

            I have no problems in Black Ops II. Maybe I’ll find one or two in 5 months, and that’s it.

          • James Veach

            No I told you thats not percentage based thats just in relevance to other games you can go hundreds of games without a hacker those are just stats related to other games.

          • Leger

            Why do you make us PC gamers look so bad smh. Half the shit you say 70% opinion and 30%fact. You say you speak nothing but the truth but you don’t XD honestly your the #1 person on here that’s in denial 24/7

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I’ve been playing with a controller for 16+ years. I’m just as good with a controller as I am with a keyboard and mouse.

            The whole “being able to change your settings” or “kb/m” or anything else is irrelevant when you have no one to play against or with.

          • TheShadowReaper

            irrelevant? what…nah. you’re just trolling at this point. no wonder people called you on your bullshit some weeks ago sillibk.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            No, you’re just arrogant for no real reason. People called me on my bullshit? Like who? Don’t make me laugh.

          • Brandalf

            That’s the beauty of PC, you can use a controller and sit back on your couch or you can sit at a desk and use a kb+m or any combination of the two. Also the lack of a playerbase in COD on PC is only a recent trend; pre MW3 the PC playerbase was quite health with 120k+ concurrent players online daily. This pretty much directly correlates to when the PC versions of COD started diminishing in terms of quality and features.

            See this graph for proof: http://www.steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&appid=42710q42690q202990q10190q209170&from=0

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That’s the thing, not all games have controller support.

          • Brandalf

            Any major release in the past few years has had at least partial controller support. The only games you’ll see that MIGHT not have controller support are some of the small indie type projects or quite old releases; and that’s where Xpadder or similar tools come in handy 😉

        • kplem

          have you seen the stats? alot of devs are moving to PC and say they want their games on PC because shitty outdated consoles are holding their talent back. just because COD aint good on PC no more doesnt mean its better on console. better on console? maybe ghosts thats it but we all know we didnt loose anything with ghosts it sucked period, COD 4 you had the amazing mods, server browser with funny as servers up to 200 players and i cant be bothered saying more the priorities you got on PC are too high look em up, same as world at war especially with the custom nazi zombies maps (on console you had a total of 4 zombie maps and you had to pay for 3 (BTW on PC on COD 4 [email protected] DLC was free with the update :D) while on PC we have currently more than 300 including maps from BO2 like slums and whatever the modders want, MW2 was shit till april when alterIWnet came and saved it, BO1 PC dedicated servers, server browser, mod tools, WAY better connection than console, MW3 same with MW2 but was saved by Fourdeltaone (alteriwnet crew after being shut down), BO2 every one knows it was WAY better on PC you didnt have the terrible issues of lag because we had dedis which lag was a massive issue in pubs of BO2, you didnt have quick scoping problem (no AIM ASSIST) we had better FPS and we had FOV and ghosts we had dedis but the game sucked overall so i only am pissed because i wasted my money. More players? you mean more toxic players that are either kids, racists, assholes, pedos, weirdos list goes on, patches, buffs, nerfs? the update rolls for everybody you clown, better port? last time i checked the bad port was ghosts? the reason why complaining is high with us is because we want basic features of the pc which is a server browser and dedis which are the most basic features to implement. but in conclusion its still better than the console version. funny how MW2 MW3 were terrible on PC yet we found a way to implement dedis and mods on it but activion got their nickers in a not and closed down the develpment team 5 times, they were named AlterIWNet then fourdeltaone then AlterIWNet again then aiw3 then rekt and thats how we got nuketown on MW2 and cod 4 Maps on MW2 AND servers that banned noob tubes with commando. there are plenty of other games that are dominant on PC just because cod aint one as much as it used to doesnt mean PC aint destroying consoles, look at the games you got on your next gen systems? none while pc has the whole steam library to pick from for started and that says it all. BTW all i need to say is steam and consoles are buried. so dont call us ignorant when YOU are ignorant yourself!

          • TheShadowReaper

            it doesnt matter dude, let it go. console peasants are console peasants. they are like a wife getting beat up by her husband but still return to him because she is crazy for him. its just…there is no logic or critical thinking. these are thrown out of the window for stupid shit like brand loyalties because they make them feel nice, warm and fuzzy inside! ^^ if that makes them feel good, why even bother using their brains, which they dont. so dont bother.

          • kplem

            yeah true man haha, they think because ghosts was a failure on PC mean everyone of them is lel they will never see why PC is better the reality he is ignorant

          • TheShadowReaper

            yeah, that’s why i said dont bother. they have their opinion, they are not interested to learn anything new or the truth so yeah…let it go. eventually they will notice but it will be too late by then.

          • kplem

            haha yeah but i just had to let it go when i see ignorance like that you have to say something, in all it was an ignorant opinion

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            “Console peasants” watch what you say, that makes PC players look bad. And I’m not a “peasant” when my multiplats run on similar settings with yours. There are no real differences except 4k and higher FPS.

            Consoles are holding developers back? You can’t be even more wrong. Last gen held developers back, but you don’t see CD Projekt Red getting angry over the next gen consoles. The purpose of next gen was so that developers wouldn’t be restricted by the hardware. Now they have complete freedom.

          • TheShadowReaper

            “There are no real differences except 4k and higher FPS.” are you trolling? or are you stupid? your consoles cant even do 1080p! xD and yes higher fps matter since it actually makes the experience WAY better.

            take a bite of this and tell me about consoles not holding gaming back.

            http://mp1st.com/2013/05/24/are-consoles-holding-back-gamings-true-potential/#.VESQBcmtci4

          • MichiganerE

            Actually, the Xbox One and PS4 have done 1080p with quite a few games. But in the end, they’re very outdated. I see a 9th console gen in the next 4 years.

          • Carlos

            Yeah they’re outdated for a reason. Companies want shorter console generations. Last gen was like 8 years!

          • MichiganerE

            Because of the economy.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            My PS4 can do 1080p just fine. Are you really that misinformed? 4 games are at 900p. Xbox One’s games are the games that can’t run at 1080p, so leave PS4 out of it. The majority of PS4’s library is at 1080p, so I don’t know where you’re getting your bullshit from.

            I never said that higher frame rate provides you with a better experience of some sort, but paying significantly more to do that? That’s so stupid and gimmicky. The rotten ways of PC has effected your brain. Not one thing you’ve said could be even considered the truth.

          • spartanelite

            Well to bad because the xbox allready has games at 1080p, but personaly I don’t care abou that t I’m not going to get up to my TV and count every pixel while I’m playing the game, instead you know I’m actually going to play it

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            “Not one thing you’ve said could be even considered the truth.”

            You really look like one of those religious people trying to fight science.

            Everything he said is true. PS4 can’t run 1080p in games that came with it. Killzone MP runs at 900p. Battlefield runs @900p and doesn’t max out the game. So it is CLEARLY holding it back. When it can’t run, it is holding it back. AS.SIMPLE.AS.THAT.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Killzone Shadow Fall factually runs at 1080p https://www.killzone.com/en_GB/blog/news/2014-03-06_regarding-killzone-shadow-fall-and-1080p.html. Battlefield 4 IS maxed out (not much AA though). As I said, the majority of PS4 games are 1080p, there are merely 3 or 4 that are at 900p. Watch Dogs, Battlefield 4, UFC, and soon-to-be Assassin’s Creed Unity, because of console parity.

            You’d be a complete ignoramus to say that next gen is holding PC back, because they aren’t.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel
          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Ah okay sorry for the misinformation 🙁

          • James Veach

            So you believe that the game devs were like “herp derp lets go from 1080p back to 900p on next gen consoles cuz er herp wefj” no you twat they are developing for new languages it is difficult to get games to a high native resolution when you have not been working on that platform for more than a year. The same thing happened when they were first making mac games. The reason pc games are consistantly high performing, is that the language does not change you simply push further than the previous year. It saddens me that you “PC” guys are soo fucking dumb when the actual PC community is rather intelligent. You guys are the worst people to represent your platform, because nothing you say makes any fucking sense.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I’ve been messing arround with Unreal Engine 4 with current-gen in mind. It isn’t any harder than doing a PC game. But while a PC can have a shit-ton of combinations, a console has frozen specs. So you will need to see in what areas they can perform better.

            They are still holding it back. They will always going to be holding PCs back. The Xbox 360 / PS3 weren’t, since they had architecture that wasn’t even available to PC users at that time. But it is not like that anymore. The current-gen is a mid-range PC.

          • James Veach

            I am aware of the mid ranged specs but you and I both know no one is going to buy a 1000 dollar console. Playstation and xbox don’t make as much as you think per sale. Truth is pc specs always fluctuate. Consoles are locked until they adapt the ability to swap parts. However consoles wont be holding you back for at least a couple more years. Games that are pc only are still developed for mid range pcs because that is the majority of the market. Games are not really made towards the high end pcs or at least it is rare. This will most likely always be the case and for consumer cost this is a good thing. Also look forward to your years of vr solitude and progress, I would.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Yes. I only say that they’re holding it back because they are supposed to say around for a decade (9 years from now on). And by 2016 they will most likely already be fully maxed out by devs. I don’t want a dead-weight until 2023.

          • James Veach

            Lol a new generation will most likely be released in 5-9 years. Honestly if game streaming catches on consoles may die off and you may see xbox and playstation go the route of steam where they are a software.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Shuhei Yoshida said himself that he thinks that consoles won’t last very long, and that actually makes me sad. I was primarly a console gamer believe it or not, and I still play on it (not that much anymore, but sometimes I like to hop in and play some GTA V), and most of my gaming “life/time” was spent playing Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Dreamcast (ooh, good times, Sonic the Hedgehog is still one of my favorite games), PS2 (SLY COOPER <3) and PS3.

            But I like where Sony is going. The cloud gaming is a really cool idea and it shows that they are going to newer grounds, if the console market goes to shit (which won't probably happen, still having Plan B is always good).

            I really hope that the new consoles don't last as long as the last gen. $400 is not that much either way. And I'm still going to buy both consoles, soo. Wanna play Sunset Overdrive, Halo and Quantum Break. And on the Playstation side is more than obvious. Sly Cooper, InFamous, LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted, maybe The Last of Us 2, whatever's the next IP from Naughty Dog, Gran Turismo, etc etc etc…

          • Carlos

            Ryse Son of Rome on Xbox One won Best real-time graphics game of the year! What happened to PS4’s “more powerful” GPU?

          • James Veach

            You are so stupid, “Consoles can’t even do 1080p.” You win the fucktard of the year award.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Are you really that ignorant?

            If the console can’t handle games that are coming out now, then it is holding you back.

            “Now they have complete freedom.” Yes, that’s why you get 720p 30fps. That’s why LAST-GEN games can’t run @1080p60fps.

            Please.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            That’s funny, because most PS4 games are at 1080p. Consoles aren’t holding PC’s back, developers are. The PS4 can run games just fine. I don’t have a single game on my PS4 that is 30 FPS 720p.

          • Luis

            Yep he in no way represents the pc community even though they all believe they have the right to be “Superior”. I spent $1500 on my pc build. Sure I love the graphics since I am up close to the monitor but when playing the games on a tv(console) from far away, you can hardly tell if it’s 1080 p or 900 p. Consoles are cheaper more consumer friendly versions of a pc when you think about it. With that said, those that want to game affordable, pay around $500 compared to $1500+.That is one huge difference, makes sense if they’re not capable of running the same thing. Also don’t make false claims that “Now they have complete freedom” which they don’t unless your specifically talking abt Max 1080 p and 60 fps. I dont think I’ll be seeing higher resolution games on either console anytime soon.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Everyone has the right to feel superior, but it’s not a justified action, albeit with reasoning. I don’t see how PC guys hate next gen, when they have PC architecture and it’s like playing on your current build (except your build is 1000x better).

          • James Veach

            You see what happened there? You shut your stupid fucking mouth because you know you’re wrong. Come back when you have a few pc buddies who know what the fuck they are talking about if you want a good arguement.

          • Aaron V

            Wow, i remember you trying to pick a fight with me a while back and look at you now. Still acting the same way…. Smh. I really feel bad for you.

            Do you really have nothing better to do? You do realize you’re on a games forum that is for games that are made for consoles first…. And here you are being a PC fanboy about a game you are going to play anyways that has console written all over it, haha.

          • TheShadowReaper

            COD: released in 2003, PC only.

            did you say something son? “made for consoles first”. i was playing COD way before this retarded console community even was a concept. please…no more bullshit. arent you tired of typing bullshit? please stop already.

          • James Veach

            My ass you were probably a fucking fetus in 03 you downsy fuck.

          • ScOott

            Lmao I’m glad I’m not on p.c just so I can avoid people like you, who think they know best and are better than everyone else just because you have a p.c some one needs to get out more

          • James Veach

            Those mods were mostly unavailable when cod 4 released….GG Try again.

          • kplem

            no shit you clown, its hard to make those mods it doesnt take a small amount of time to make them considering alot of modders are only one person, PC actually had them AND we had dedis and server browser so i wouldnt talk. and look what the mods have done?

          • James Veach

            Wtf do mods for a game that came out in 2007 have to do with anything. If you play games for mods fine that’s why we have things like g-mod, and day-z not Call of Duty, because the mods on call of duty are basically mini games that hardly anyone really gives a fuck about.

          • kplem

            we are talking about zombie mods, custom maps, mods that make the game better, hide n seek, aizombie, the peacekeeper from bo2 in MW2 etc just because you didnt like them doesnt mean others dont, no one gave a fuck about? last time i checked all good zombie servers were full same as modded maps, same as aizombie from MW2 they wernt irrelevant they were fun as mods. forgot about Isnipe that was always full

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Never heard or even read about that.

          • kplem

            look up on google, consoles holding back gaming or holding back pc games, http://kotaku.com/5701066/crysis-developers-consoles-are-holding-pc-games-back here is one, and here is an article with the crysis dev but there was a specific article i read and will find and show you where it showed what the devs preferred more it was like mobile at like 25% pc at like 21 PS4 at like 15 and xbox at 10 ill find it i dont remember it exactly

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Yes, I’ve actually remember something about that, but I think it came from a Ubisoft dev.

          • Dean Cowan

            Could you’s stop bickering over what’s better. If you think pc is better good for you. There’s no need argue.

          • kplem

            i had to reply to an ignorant comment/opinion.

        • mountkarma

          When dev’s do PC games right like by giving mod tools and rent-able servers there’s no comparison. It’s way better to play a game on PC if you have that because so much content is created by the community as well as be able to ban hackers from your own servers.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Yes, but COD never has stuff like mods, so i don’t see it as better at all.

          • mountkarma

            COD up until MW2 always had mod tools and private servers. So we’re talking COD, COD:UO, COD2, COD4 and WAW…

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            “Up until MW2” Proved my point.

          • kplem

            alterIWnet gave us mod tools which gave us nuketown same as BO1 so MW3

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Mods like that aren’t even that great. Arguably the only good PC mod imo is WAW Custom Zombies.

          • MichiganerE

            Mods aren’t that great? What?

          • kplem

            i dont get it either

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Those previous mods, no. They weren’t that big of a deal. Skyrim mods, GTA mods, Watchdogs Mods, BF mods, etc. Those are all amazing on PC. But COD mods were pretty shit back in the day.

          • MichiganerE

            What about CoD 4 mods such as zombies, Prop hunt and Star Wars? Those Mods are sick.

          • kplem

            at least we’ve had them unlike consoles stuck with the same game

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            CoD did have mods. Even MW2 had, but not officially supported. MW2 was the sixth installment in the CoD franchise, meaning that more than half of the CoD games had mods on PC.

            How does that prove your point?

          • Brandalf

            COD4/WaW and to a much lesser extent BO1 all had mod tools and there were mods aplenty. There was a mod that made COD4 into a star wars FPS….STAR WARS xD

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Ah, well I didn’t know that. I knew they had camo mods and stuff, but not that far, lol.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I’m against games like CoD having rentable servers. We all so the problem with Black Ops. Nuketown 24/7 and little to no DLC servers.

        • Brandalf

          Native 1080p? Try up to native 4k. The possibility for well over 144hz monitor support, which means even smoother gameplay. Up until after BO1 playerbase was not an issue on PC with 120k+ concurrent players daily. Bug fixes are more easily deployed and MUCH cheaper for the developer to deploy on PC rather than on console. The PC versions of games usually get more frequent updates than on console(not really the case with the more recent COD titles).

          The PC version of COD4 and WaW got all of the DLC free thanks to deals made with PC hardware manufacturers such as Nvidia or Intel. PC also has much, much more flexibility in terms of personal preference.

          I agree visuals aren’t really very important and most PC gamers agree visuals are just the cherry on top. They care about options, freedom and smooth gameplay. A properly developed PC game will always be superior to that same game on a console in every aspect you can think of. Graphics/gameplay/controls/connection quality/options/etc.

          This is all coming from someone who hadn’t touched a PC for gaming purposes until about 3 years ago; and I’ll never go back.

        • Primey_

          The pc version has the same amount of bugs as the console version. iw and treyarch do a good job at releasing patches for consoles and pc near the same time which fix the same issues on both platforms.

          The pc version is generally not just better because we can play at 1080p +. We’ve got superior controls.

      • Freeze

        I like all gaming. Stop arguing and gtfo the internet. Stop making it a god awful place.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Low populated players, ring a bell?

        • ApoX

          You mean less squeaking kids and actual competition to play against.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            There are just as much squeaking kids and PC players are more annoying to play against than console players.

      • James Veach

        Yeah but you dicks also have a million and one hackers which I for one cannot fucking stand.

        • Brandalf

          Pure myth. I’ve encountered more cheating on console than I have on PC. That just comes from pure ignorance of the platform. It’s like saying all PC gamers pirate their games.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Are you stupid? The PS4 ran CoD Ghosts at 60 FPS 1080p…

      • spartanelite

        I’m sure that Cod ghosts is better on PC like everyone said it was right? But you know it’s better like you said

      • James Puckett

        I could care less how a game looks.I could care less how fast it runs. All I care about is how fun the game is.

    • MichiganerE

      Even though CoD started out as a PC exclusive franchise? A franchise can’t just betray it’s roots and say “fuck you PC!”.

      • Kobrah

        Can’t betray its roots? Just watch it

        • MichiganerE

          I’m just saying that because that’s how it should be. But CoD already betrayed PC years ago, starting with MW2.

    • TheShadowReaper

      i have invested in a better machine that you did. i expect my AW to run and look better than your generalized 400$ gaming box.

      • NuttyTheSquirrel

        Again, condescending asshole.

        • TheShadowReaper

          how the fuck am i being condescending in this one? maybe on 90% of my comments, but this one is in the 10% that i said nothing offensive in. what’s your problem asshole?

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            “than your generalized 400$ gaming box.”

          • TheShadowReaper

            that’s exactly what it is. how is the truth an insult? it seems you are searching things to be offended by, and while doing that you completely disregard any truth, honesty or facts as mere insults. plz, grow up, get a brain then come to the internet again. you are too young for this shit mate.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            How am I trying to be insulted by anything you idiot? This just proves how morronic you are. What I said is 100% truth. You’re putting yourself in higher ground, as fucking always.

            Did I say it was an insult? Condescending is not insulting.

            Play the guess games all you want. But you’re not better than anyone else because you have a biffy PC. You’re actually lower than most people I’ve met so far.

            “you are too young for this shit mate.” Guess, guess, guess.

            I’m too young, yet I’m smarter than you. Not a fact, but I can see you’re not that bright of a person yourself with all of your bullshit around Charlie Intel.

            How do you even dare to fucking know who Darwin is when you come up with all your fucking guess games. I can assure you that Darwin didn’t guess his theories.

            Seriously, stop with your guessing games, I’m sure you like to play them, but guessing doesn’t win an argument. Specially if 90% of your comment is mere that, guesses.

          • Guest

            would you jst stop replying to this guy?

    • mountkarma

      That’s true now but COD was initially PC only…

      • Diego Diniz

        After COD4…MW2 till now…PC versions are just Console’s Ports. I miss these old days…

    • James Veach

      Why do the pros only play on console…..

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        The “pros” are irrelevant in nearly every conversation.

        • James Veach

          Why did you put pros in quotes???? They are the best at these games period.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            “Best”

            If I sat around all day playing with the same gun, attachments, perks, and get “cheating” peripherals I too would be “the best”.

          • jribeiro97

            no you wouldn’t

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Pois…

            Of course I would. They don’t have special powers. I rarely play and I’m good, these guys play 24/7… Gaming is a skill.

          • Leger

            Pros aren’t special. They are average. The only thing that makes them seem good is because they dropshot, jumpshot soundwhore, pre fire, bitch about everything that kills them to get pachted and spend over 5+ playing against noobs. I can gurantee there are regular players out there (including myself, yes I’m being conceided af) that can beat them. Not easily it will be a close match.

          • James Veach

            you can’t beat me…

        • Brandalf

          +1000

    • Brandalf

      The more recent COD games are made for console, but no they’te not made on consoles. COD wouldn’t have gotten it’s original success of exposure if it weren’t for the PC community. COD1 up to WaW were all PC first games; there is a reason the PC population of COD on PC has dropped over 66% since after Black Ops 1 released(the last COD with proper PC tools & support).

      These minimum required specs are not promising and tell us that it’s going to be similar quality to Ghosts on PC; if that’s the case they should go ahead and stop porting it altogether.

      For reference here’s a graph comparing the population of each COD game from BO1 and later on PC: http://www.steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&appid=42710q42690q202990q10190q209170&from=0

      The pattern is pretty telling that COD is going to die on PC sooner rather than later and that may not be such a bad thing.

    • gsdfdfs

      lol idiot

  • badoptimzation

    bad optimization

    6 gbs ram, an i3 at 3ghz and 55 GBS is really high for a game like this. sad. so many companies do so much better. they cant even be bothered to try.

    • JoZer805g

      Your name though.

    • RdJokr

      Don’t say it’s bad optimization just because your potato PC can’t run it.

      • Juses

        Umm it is bad optimization. Do you have any idea what you’re talking about.

        • MichiganerE

          No he does not.

    • TheGamerBeast

      bad optimization? REALLY? it’s not Modern warfare anymore the Game is going to have higher specs anyway, you’re not going to expect the same specs every year, go buy a better PC or just move to console

      • badoptimzation

        oh another very dumb individual

        “FOR A GAME LIKE THIS” the way the game looks, acts, performs, etc, compared to its competitors should NOT be that high if it was optimized properly. fact. get your fucking head out of your ass and maybe research about this type of thing before you make your idiotic assumptions that have no merit arguing people WHO SIMPLY WANT A PLAYABLE GAME.

        i hope your console dies and when you complain about it dying everyone laughs and you, says you deserve it, and should expect to dish out a lot more. you are such a horrible person and its sickening.

        • TheGamerBeast

          LMFAO, you mad? why are u mad? that shows that you’re a kid for sure, don’t be mad nothing worth, it’s just a game ffs, and i didn’t say 6GB ram for a min req wasn’t high yes it is, but expect anything

          • badoptimzation

            im not mad you are very dumb and it makes me sad that people like you continually hold the world back.

            ” 6GB ram for a min req wasn’t high yes it is, but expect anything” –> why should i expect anything. if they want me to buy their product they need to make it good and yes it is worth it pc cod still gets a lot of sales alot more than you dumb console people give it credit for its worth an hour to add in an fov slider.

            this just shows how sad you really are. you are such an elitist and hate people having fun. miserable dumb person.

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      The game actually looks the part, unlike Ghosts. If you haven’t seen the lighting and shadow system of Advanced Warfare, I highly suggest you look at maps like Biolab and Riot.

      • Juses

        Crysis 3 did not need 6gb of ram 😛

        • RdJokr

          Crysis 3 was a last-gen hardware benchmark tool with shiny textures and glossy post-effects, complete with a campaign and multiplayer mode to boot.

          If we use that as a standard for every PC game these days, no one would wanna play PC games any more.

          • TheShadowReaper

            if we use that as a standard for every PC game these days, we’ll end up seeing that more PC games need to become like Crysis. not anyone not wanting to play games on PC. your comment was “fuck logic” incarnate.

          • RdJokr

            The entire Crysis series brought every gaming PC to its knees. That’s the thing that I don’t want to be a standard, PC games just trying to go all “maximum graphics that can only be played with super high end systems”. When I play a PC game, I wanna PLAY it, not stress test my hardware. That’s why I called Crysis 3 a glossy benchmark tool.

            The system requirements for Crysis 3 might have said 2GB RAM, but that was back when gaming was still limited to using 32-bit architecture. Now that games are using 64-bit architecture thanks to the next-gen consoles, developers are taking advantage of more hardware available. I bet if Crysis 3 was released this year on next-gen and PC, it would have demanded as much RAM as AW does now.

          • TheShadowReaper

            it still didnt need 6gb of RAM to do so. why does AW need that? i actually know but i’m bored of too much typing, maybe some other day.

            oh come on! everyone had 8gb of RAM minimum when Crysis 3 launched. if they needed more RAM they could ask for it. but they didnt need. they needed faster CPUs and GPUs. the problem is that AW need everything more. CPU, GPU, more RAM, more HDD space. wtf! i understand, it has great graphics, its demanding. but if they pull another Ghosts on us its going to be torches and rakes November 4th early in the morning i assure you.

          • RdJokr

            Technically, we could understand the RAM requirements as the total RAM we need to have for the PC, not what AW runs on. Let’s say the system and Steam takes up 2GB of your RAM. That leaves about 4GB left, if you only have 6GB. The game runs on about 2-3GB, leaving you with 1-2GB free RAM left. It gives the PC some breathing room, and in case it needs to swap data between the free RAM, it can. You don’t wanna end up playing the game with little to no free RAM left.

            Of course, Ghosts was a different case, seeing as it suffered from memory leak. But until AW comes out, we have no idea whether AW will have the same issues or not.

  • What COD haters think Advanced Warfare looks like.

    • Nice.

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)
      • That’s your opinion and I disagree with you 🙂

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          Not sure if sarcasm… I was trying to say that it looks good lol.

          • Apologies. I thought you were saying this game was practically Crysis like a lot of people say it is. I misunderstood your picture comment 🙂

            EDIT: I thought it was Titan Fall so I fixed the comment. Lol #Fail

          • Aaron V

            Titanfall doesn’t even look that good tbh. This game is Crysis btw.

          • MichiganerE

            Titanfall’s graphics are good for the engine it’s running on. But compared to other games, they’re just okay.

          • TheShadowReaper

            its quite funny if you think about it. getting the Source code license to use on a game but fail miserably. even tho Source is even easier than Unreal to code on…uh, Respawn Entertainment…epic fail right there!

          • Righteous dude

            I’d be interested to look at some of your coding, if you have a link. 🙂

          • TheShadowReaper

            its called Source SDK. free to instal on Steam. go play around with it, its fairly easy.

          • Righteous dude

            Yes.. i’d be interested to see what you coded in it.

          • Righteous dude

            I’m sure you’re not one of them, but you know what it’s like. You get these people that talk all big like this is easy etc, but then they’ve never coded in their lives. Have no games, apps etc.

            But I doubt you’re one of those buffoons.

          • FazalGaming

            Sh*ts getting real

          • Dean Cowan

            Just because someone can’t do “X” thing doesn’t mean they can’t understand it. Would you say that Einstein can’t do maths because he didn’t pass it in school?

          • Righteous dude

            Of course Einstein was good at maths, but then he never failed his exam either. But even if he had of failed, I’m not quite sure what your point would have been.

            And are you really trying to compare shadowReaper to Einstein?

          • TheShadowReaper

            let me guess where this is going:

            “you cant actually program anything worthwhile so that means you can criticize them” you’re sadly mistaken if you think that.

          • Righteous dude

            Ah, you are one of those buffoons. You may want to read and correct your post btw.

            And of course you can criticise Respawn, but with your comment you implied a deep understanding of coding engines.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i have an understanding of coding engines. i do not have the skills to use one (i would if i was to practice), but the knowledge about how they work is pretty much there. have learn most things from the UE dev kit.

            and no, YOU are one of those buffoons. you must feel so “cool” or whatever thinking you exposed me or something. laughable.

          • Righteous dude

            Then link me to your work 😉

          • Ben

            But Respawn using a heavily modified Source engine…

          • TheShadowReaper

            well its still Source engine. at least i could easily tell cause of the lighting and shadows. worked the same as HL2. maybe its not as obvious to everyone.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Still is really nice to see what they did when you know the capabilities of the Source engine. Tintanfall is without a doubt, the best looking game on the Source engine.

          • TheShadowReaper

            along with Portal 2 and the community mod of Half-Life, Black Mesa.

            but still, the screen tearing issues are inexcusable imo. they have room to improve and a lot of it.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I never had any problems with it. The only “problem” that I had was on release, because the game was locked at 60fps. They quickly changed that.

            And depends on the level of tearing, I remember that MW3 and Ghosts had massive tearing problems. But I never noticed tearing in Titanfall, go give it a try right now and see, maybe I missed it.

          • TheShadowReaper

            its true, MW3 on release was worse on screen tearing problems than TF. they unlocked the frame rate? props to them, i didnt knew that.

          • MichiganerE

            Wow.

          • Carlos

            How did Titanfall fail?

          • TheShadowReaper

            how did it succeed? with the least possible content available? screen tearing problems even on consoles? repetitive gameplay?

          • XLKILLA

            A lot of people still play it and the game is continuing to be supported with updates and new content so obviously it’s succeeding or they wouldn’t be supporting it.

          • XLKILLA

            Cod doesn’t have repetitive gameplay lmfao.

          • TheShadowReaper

            at least i can call more things than just a titan.

          • XLKILLA

            Lol

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Yes, compare a indie developer that is making a new IP with one of the most established franchises of all time, with almost 10 main titles on their franchise.

          • TheShadowReaper

            yeah ok, maybe its kind of a bad comparison i’ll give you that. but it was overhyped as shit and everyone bought into it when they knew that Respawn wouldnt be able to pull off a COD on us. and no they arent Indie, Respawn is close to a B or A studio but not Indie. they had backing from EA.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            You could have a trillion dollars backing up a game, you would still be an indie dev. And yes, they are an indie developer.

            And Titanfall is much more fun than CoD has been, the only problem is that there aren’t many things to do in terms of unlocks and customization. Again, normal for their first game.

            Most people that I know that played Titanfall’s beta didn’t had that much fun in forever, me included. I felt like a 15 year old again, back in the old CoD days, playing for a shit-ton of hours straight and still want to play more after those hours.

            The only problem is after you unlock everything for you weapons.

            There are no camos nor class based unlocks. But it is normal. I mean look at Destiny, Watch_Dogs or Assassin’s Creed. The first game is always a “testing the playground” thing. I hate the original Assassin’s Creed now, specially after playing AC2. Boring as hell, but look at it, it made a money-printing franchise.

            And Watch_Dogs wasn’t even a bad game. It didn’t survive the hype, but it was a good game. I blasted through the campaign and I had fun with it, still had more fun in Watch_Dogs then in GTA 4 (without mods, of course).

          • TheShadowReaper

            no, they arent an Indie dev. plz. tagging every single dev an Indie these days, its an insult to those who are actually Indie.

            i dont know if it is more fun than COD or whatnot but its an EA game, and i boycott EA so, you get the picture.

            but still the game is a sorry excuse for a full priced release. if it was priced 40 or 30 euros i wouldnt mind but a full price release for a game that has only content of a few weeks playtime is really bad and shouldnt be excused just because the game is “good or fun to play”. we need to be more cynical of releases these days, especially when they come from EA, Ubisoft or yours truly, Activision.

            i wont talk about the rest you listed cause i dont want to, they are a different case and a huge talk and i’m not in the mood of posting text walls right now. maybe another time.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            There are no “true Indie devs”. Indie is short for independent. Crytek is indie, Bungie is indie, Insomniac Games is indie, Respawn Entertainment is indie.

            The game wasn’t full-priced, it costed 40 or 50 dollars, but I know that it wasn’t a full-priced game.

          • TheShadowReaper

            well, yes and no. what “true Indie” is supposed to be is that they even publish games on their own and their budget for making the game doesnt even touch a B. ofc “true Indie” is an ideal term cause a really low % of Indie devs are like that.

            Crytek may be Indie but i personally do not consider them cause they always published games under a company, namely Ubisoft and EA, not just by themselves. same for Bungie and Respawn. they didnt publish the game on their own.

            as for Insomniac, yes they are Indie.

            yeah, not a full priced but still even with 50 euros, the content the game had was roughly worth 30 euros. just a MP based game with a few unlocks and a Single Player that takes up to 2 hours to complete and is a copy of MP with bots. tsk tsk tsk. really bad for the consumer. but i’m sure EA is to blame about that.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            You may not consider them indie, but they are still an independent studio. They aren’t owned by any publisher.

            The only difference is that the bigger independent studios are well known for their skills, so of course that publishers want a piece of that money-pie if they find that the game has potential.

            It has worked that way since the beggining.

            Many people think that Indie games are “low” quality or low budget when that’s not the case at all. But just because most of them are that doesn’t mean that they’re all like that. The words “indie dev” already existed way before this wave of indie devs came along. It won’t change meaning just because.

          • Darn. Mega Fail on my part. Haha

          • Thats Crysis, the best looking FPS series in history. Titanfall looks worst then Ghosts did

          • Carlos

            Titanfall has way more action and a faster pace then ghosts though. People said ghosts graphics sucked I just thought their art sucked!

          • TheShadowReaper

            relax, its Crysis 3, that was actually a compliment to AW…

            btw, which weapons you’re gonna use? i’ve set my eyes on this energy based shotgun a long time ago… 🙂

          • Rmawi

            Kf5 with dual nag. First 5 bullets have extra damage so if you keep reloading extra damage.

          • TheShadowReaper

            you’re going to need fast reloading perk for dat tho

          • Dean Cowan

            Sleight of hand is duel mags in this. Like blops 2.

          • Rmawi

            there is no perk like that so we will have to settle with dual mags. Do you have any goods class setups

          • TheShadowReaper

            yeah, @deancowan:disqus said so too. its dual mags yet again. which is a good thing. its too much as a perk. it becomes overused in the end.

            class setups? @JordanxBrookes said that he will do some but me, no i dont have any. i want to explore classes on my own through playing the game rather than get them served on a plate just for stupid reasons such as KDA.

          • Rmawi

            hahaha good point. cant wait to hyped for this game, this is what we needed for a long time. have u preordered

          • TheShadowReaper

            as a COD gamer, naturally, i have indeed pre-ordered.

          • Rmawi

            i have preordered as well #11days

          • Most likely the HBRa3 🙂

          • Didn’t really understand why I have to “relax” ,but okay. lol

          • TheShadowReaper

            because nothing is really going on? well, i dont know. text sometimes seems different that it originally means to be.

            or maybe its just me and my sucky english time to time.

          • Sometimes I read into things too much.

          • CGkillZ

            It looks like a badass game. I will say it looks at ad bit like crisis but I know it’s not.

      • gsdfdfs

        You definitly need some glasses.

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          Not rly i cri everytiem doe

      • Carlos

        Dang what game is that?

    • TiHi

      But that’s how it will look like lele

    • spartanelite

      What game is that?

    • XLKILLA

      BO 2.1

  • 6GB of RAM? please dont tell me that you guys are going to pull another ghosts on this game for PC.

    • Well the game is for next-gen. However, I do agree that the game should be optimized better as these requirements are pretty high.

    • RdJokr

      RAM is dirt cheap, man. Every gaming PC should have at least 8GB by now.

      • Mario Rivera

        True story, these kids are bitching like they expected to play a next-gen focused game on a old pc running pentium 4 lol.

      • TheShadowReaper

        i have 8gb of Ram man but, 6gb is still too much, and its borderline on the RAM i’ve got. if more than 2gb are asked to be used by the system or Steam the game will be unplayable until i get 8gb more and make it 16gb.

      • Brandalf

        That’s not the point. It shows a potentially bad PC port when it lacks proper scalability.

        • RdJokr

          Nobody knows how well the game will run till release date. No one except Sledgehammer. So my suggestion is to stop saying shit till you have solid proof that the game is a bad port.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Well, games like Battlefield 4 or Crysis 3 don’t even use 4GB eventhough they recommend it. Battlefield has 64 players on a map 6x bigger than CoD’s maps and more than 15 vehicles, all at once. Not only that but it looks similar if not better than Advanced Warfare.

          • TheShadowReaper

            dont forget tho, Frostbite is like a newly born baby when it is compared to ID Tech 3 (heavily modified) that COD uses. cause of its limitations it probably need to use a lot of ram cause its tech is really old.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I think it has more to do with Infinity Ward not giving a shit about the PC version. BO2 worked just fine.

            And the current-gen (PS4 as least) only has around 5GB of usable RAM.

          • TheShadowReaper

            yeah, IW never gave a shit for PC. shame on them. boycotted by me hard.

          • Brandalf

            Anyone who has played good and bad ports on PC can get a good idea for the quality of a port from it’s minimum requirements. AW has nearly the exact same requirements as Ghosts; except it requires a SLIGHTLY more powerful CPU. Sure it has been further updated but a good PC port should be highly scalable and from the looks of these specs this game will not be very scalable at all.

            We don’t know for sure, that’s true. We also don’t need to buy the game until we do know for sure. I know I won’t be touching this game until I know for sure how it runs and that it at least has an FOV slider along with no or high FPS caps. I’m not getting swindled out of another $60 on a PC COD game and I have a feeling most PC COD players feel the same way; especially after Ghosts.

          • RdJokr

            Well, it has an FOV slider now, so there’s that. I get the feeling that it would be similar to Black Ops II in terms of graphical optimization: various options and such, with high FPS caps (Black Ops II capped at 200 I think).

          • Brandalf

            That’s true, and that small tidbit gives me some hope that it won’t be as bad as previously expected. I’m still not convinced but if we get anymore similar promising information regarding the PC version then they may still earn my $60. We’ll find out within the next 2 weeks. If not then I’ll spend that money on the new Borderlands game instead.

    • Freeze

      The difference is that this game actually ha good graphics, and you prbly should have 8 by now

      • NuttyTheSquirrel

        The graphics don’t matter when it comes to RAM.

        What RAM does is it allows your computer to access information faster so it doesn’t have to write everything to your hard-drive every time you have to access data. So when your gaming if you move a unit you have to process that movement and the computer has to hold that information until it’s no longer needed.

        Let’s put it this way. When you start a level in a game, usually there is a loading screen. This loading screen basically loads all the data it needs into your RAM so that it can be accessed when it needs to. Otherwise, every second, the computer would freeze for a little bit while it moves and copies stuff to the hard drive.

        There’s a problem with some games where they cause memory leaks. It’s “funny” because Memory leaks are actually the opposite of what it’s called. xD

        When a game allocates what it needs to your RAM, it uses that information and if it doesn’t need that anymore, it releases that informations, making room for new information. But sometimes, memory which is no longer needed is not released, and new information is still loaded to your RAM, using more RAM than it should and slowing down your PC. The problem with this is the more this happens, the more memory leaks you will have, meaning that if you have a memory leak in a game, memory leaks will follow the first memory leak until the game stops responding, or crashes (usually Windows closing it).

    • Derrick Wingler

      Gotta agree with the others. These days 8 gigs of DDR3 is standard, 16 for a gaming PC. Now that DDR4 RAM is here DDR3 is cheap shit.

  • Vermell

    Finally, now people can stop bitching and moaning about PC info. They be like oh but it started on PC and what not. I mean sure it did, but when consoles took off they had a much bigger market than PC gamers only. Sure they’re less powerful, sure the graphics may be worse but they’re cheaper and are more readily available (to an extent). Your causal gamer (Activision’s target audience) is willing to splurge on a console, but not invest the time and money one a high end gaming PC.

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      This wasn’t really the PC info they were asking for but yeah, lol.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        Well they can deal with the hand they’re dealt, be appreciative/grateful, and get over it. I swear, PC guys are the most spoiled brats ever.

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          They, not I.

        • Aaron V

          PC Elitist aren’t spoiled brats, but full of crap.

        • NuttyTheSquirrel

          Why are we spoiled brats? Because we want to make sure not to vomit on our keyboards because the fucking FoV is awful? Because we want full keyboard and mouse support like the consoles have for their fucking controllers? Because we want to be able to use the things that we spent money on it and not have a fucking FPS cap? Because we want an optimized game and not a fucking shit game that runs like crap on the best machine you can have? Because we don’t want to see fucking xbox icons instead of keyboard icons?

          Ye, right. If you had half of our problems you would be moaning too. If you release a game on a platform you NEED to make sure it works on that platform and it delivers.

          I swear of god, when you talk about anything that envolves PC, only shit comes out of your mouth.

          It doesn’t take an intelligent person to figure out that if EVERYONE is asking for it, THEY ARE RIGHT.

          I would like to see AW run like shit on consoles and then I would reply with this: “I swear, console guys are the most spoiled brats ever.”

          Give me 5 reasons why PC guys are spoiled brats? And I’ll tell you why that’s not true.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You said consoles are holding PC back? PC’s are holding consoles back. You want to know why your community is full of spoiled brats? Fine. Petitions for console games to come to PC, refusing to pay $60 for brand new games, robbing of developers their money, piracy, etc. You want me to post every single comment I see on YouTube and forums/message boards? The Reddit posts? If you think that console is in the wrong and PC is sunshine and rainbows, then YOU can’t be any more wrong. Just because you play at a slightly higher frame rate and slightly higher settings, does not mean that your community can barge into a comments section and start bitching. You have the most powerful machines, right? Then you don’t need to act vulnerable. If you “have the best experience ever”, then you’ll be able to play Advanced Warfare with no issues.

            Again, deal with the hand you have been dealt. CoD hasn’t been good on PC for years and it doesn’t sell well on PC. The port is looking bad. Since apparently you have so many games on PC, you don’t need CoD on it. It has a shit port? They didn’t deliver this year, then. Either refuse to buy the game with your hard-earned money, or buy it on ‘consolololo’, it’s that simple.

            I could care less about Field of View. I don’t think fish vision is a feature.

            “I would like to see AW run like shit on consoles and then I would reply with this: ‘I swear, console guys are the most spoiled brats ever.'” I wouldn’t bitch, because I would simply not get the game. I didn’t get Watch_Dogs because I knew the game would be overhyped garbage, and I don’t agree with Ubisoft’s logic and the way that they handle their games.

          • TheShadowReaper

            i’ll have to agree here with you. and @sillibk:disqus most of the times spits bullshit all over the place and thinks he made an argument. pitiful.

        • Primey_

          Yeah fuck us for being annoyed that SHG ignores us. I swear if it was you console owners being ignored then it would be the same way, you lot would complain. But it will never be like that because you lot are locked into using one or two shitty performing systems. Console gamers are just as loud and spoiled as pc gamers. When things don’t go their way they make everyone hear about it

          Asking for information so we know we can run it and how well is not being spoiled. Most devs release this information without trouble and ages before release, most devs are OK about talking about the pc version. SHG are the complete opposite of this.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Yeah, that’s right, fuck you. Your “PC master race” pathetic bullshit can go somewhere else. Shitty performing systems? PC gaming has effected your brain. You see how stupid that is? Just as loud and spoiled? Do I say PS4 master race to you?

            They may as well stop putting CoD on PC because it sells like shit.

          • Primey_

            Nobody said anything about master race. Why did you have you bring that shit up? It’s not a master race thing to say consoles are very underpowered. It’s the truth. They can barely handle 1080p, 60fps

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Naw I didn’t mean to be too insulting. And people with that kind of logic make me think of the Reddit inside jokes.

            Actually, the PS4 can run 60 FPS 1080p pretty decently imo. Ever heard of Deep Down?

        • badoptimzation

          you are so dumb… like really dumb

          just…. i actually can’t believe this level of dumb exists

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            No, you’re just a biased, arrogant PC gaymer.

    • Michael X D

      Wow i was about to type this good thing i read the comment section but ye lol

    • NuttyTheSquirrel

      Shut the fuck up when you don’t know jack shit about what you’re talking about.

      You’re not right. I could give to shits about the specs. I want to know if there will be an FOV slider that goes at least until 90º so that I don’t throw up while I’m playing. I want to know if there will be a 60fps cap because Darwin knows why. I want to know if it will run good like other triple-A titles do. etc etc etc.

      • Vermell

        No, you shut the fuck up cause guess what. For all your superior hardware and specs, you’re in the minority of players when it comes to CoD. At this point you guys are more of a nuisance to CoD developers than an actual target audience. While 2-3 million sales is nothing to sneer at, its also but a drop in the bucket overall. Activision can take the loss of PC gamers, they’ll just charge more for DLC and micro DLC shit.

        • NuttyTheSquirrel

          I would rather see CoD completely gone from PC than release Ghosts-like versions for PC every year.

          Does it feel good to know that the developers of one of your favorite franchise doesn’t really give jack shit about you? Ye…

          • Vermell

            Ghosts was, IS, horrible on all platforms. If PCs becomes as mainstream and cheaper (for initial pricing) then you can bet your ass they’ll be putting more time/care into it again. There’s other factors of course, generally speaking your average PC gamer is somewhat more tech savvy than your average console gamer.

            Why should they give a shit? They’re (to us) as much a product as we are to them. We’re faceless consumers, just like how here we’re faceless usernames on a screen. They don’t know us personally and have no reason to. Even SHG, you really think they care about the “community”? It’s all marketing/publicity. So what if its your “favorite franchise” in the end its just a videogame. If you develop some sort of sentimental attachment then that’s silly, unhealthy even. Thought process like that is what led to bullshit like GamerGate.

          • TheShadowReaper

            PC is more relevant than it’s ever been. accept the facts. you dont need to like them, you just have to accept them.

            and btw #GamerGate has nothing to do with this. it has to do with journalists being unethical and outright liars towards the consumers, us gamers. if you are anti-#GamerGate you are essentially anti-gaming. so stop gaming altogether if you believe that GG is bullshit.

            i will list 2 videos backing up my claims.

            http://youtu.be/UKwW2JD9nHM

            http://youtu.be/ipcWm4B3EU4

      • Guest

        The FPS cap levels out the weapons’ ROF, so that not every gun is a zero recoil 1400 RPM weapon. If there wasn’t a cap, you’d bitch about people modding so that their guns are better. You and ShadowReaper are two of the most irritating people I’ve ever encountered.

        • NuttyTheSquirrel

          Bullshit. Yes the Weapon’s ROF is connected with the FPS. But I’d bitch about it about people modding, why of course. I’m bitching everyday about that on BF3, BF4, CS:GO, CS:S, etc, etc etc. Everyday.

        • TheShadowReaper

          then how 3arc could do a 90 fps cap on BO without the weapon rpm being affected? you clown! dance for us.

      • TheShadowReaper

        (small parenthesis here. you are talking about me being a condescending asshole yet here you are doing the exact same thing as i do. hypocrisy? who knows. i believe that you do well to give them the truth and how things are like a punch to the face but why is it ok for you to do so but not ok for ME to do so? we have a common target, to spread truth and reduce the spreading of misinformation and lies. then we do we fight again?)

        • NuttyTheSquirrel

          I’m not condescending. I’m not saying I’m better or that I’m in higher ground than he is. He was saying that now the PC community can shut up. But that’s not the informations that the PC community wants.

          Inform yourself.

          • TheShadowReaper

            did i ever claim that? higher ground? what are you talking about? its obvious what i claim and i have made it clear numerous times as well. which is that i have a way better experience than he or any console player does. and of course all of them cant accept facts. mere facts! pathetic.

            yes, that’s not the info we wanted indeed.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Yes, higher ground. Do you know what condescending even means?

            “its obvious what i claim and i have made it clear numerous times as well. which is that i have a way better experience than he or any console player does. and of course all of them cant accept facts.”

            Again, condescending. No, it’s not a fact that you have a better experience than console players.

            There are games that just run better on console. Ghosts still freezes every 90 seconds on PC. It doesn’t on console, therefore the console has a better CoD Ghosts experience.
            In games like Assassin’s Creed, Batman or racing games, it is just better to play with a controller, which is a native console peripheral.

            It all comes from personal preference. There’s even people that play FPS or shooters in general better with the controller.

          • TheShadowReaper

            again with that word “condescending”. do you even understand what it means at this point?

            you list games that have full k/b and mouse compatibility and you claim they are better on consoles? btw all of them on consoles run in sub 1080p resolutions and sub 60 fps frame rates (not even mentioning anti-aa, depth of field, phsyx and all of that) and you wanna tell me that they run better on consoles because you like to lick your controller at night? the only possible option of these 3 is Ghosts and even if it runs a little better on consoles you can always just lower the graphic options and make it as it is on a console, which means that you still have superior controls. k/b and mouse. everyone knows that FPS games are played better on the PC, always have, always will. even with a shitty port like Ghosts.

            i’ll leave you with a saying that goes like: “the truth isnt harsh, its just the truth. you dont have to like the truth, you just have to accept it.”

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Out of those three? No. You can control the cars WAY BETTER with a controller, you can control Batman/AC Character way better with a controller.

            What truth you fucking dumb fuck? There’s no truth about experiencing games in different platforms.

            There are people who don’t like to play on PC, IT’S A FACT. Therefore saying that the PC is the ultimate and the best for everything is NOT TRUE and just shows how fucked up your mind is.

            What you don’t seem to understand is that there is no true or false opinion. An opinion is a judgment, viewpoint, or statement about matters commonly considered to be subjective, no facts can make the opinion itself change, people can.
            Example: If I say that Ghosts is the best FPS of all time, that would be my opinion, although you can present facts that there are better games out there. Games that can play the same or better and have more stuff. My opinion would still be that “Ghosts is the best FPS of all time.”

            “again with that word “condescending”. do you even understand what it means at this point?”

            It means the same as the first time I’ve said it, I can say it 2 or 2000 times, it will still mean the same thing.

          • TheShadowReaper

            if a controller is the problem then why not plug in one into your PC? even tho the k/b and mouse are way superior to play games on you can still play with a controller. just plug it into your PC! that’s what PC is, freedom and making your the best experience for YOU! thus one of the many reasons its the best platform to play games on. its the truth, its a fact, end of story. stop refuting facts.

            you can call me whatever the fuck you want but facts are facts. you arent going to refute them by calling me condescending. actually you arent going to refute them with anything, cause they are facts. face them already instead of crying “condescending” like a little crybaby.

  • bruh

    People complain ghosts was crap on pc, then they complain the specs for this are too high. If you want a good game, expect high optimization

    • Juses

      No, you need 6gb of ram because of bad optimization

    • Derrick Wingler

      You have to understand, these are the “minimum” requirements. That means in order to even start the game at its lowest settings you have to have at least 6 gigs of RAM and a 3GHz CPU. For it to play smoothly at good settings you would probably have to have at least 12 gigs and a processor overclocked to 4GHz lol.

    • Brandalf

      You don’t understand how proper hardware optimzation works do you? A good PC port should be highly scalable and run stably on a large variety of hardware from an entry level $300-500 gaming PC up to a $5,000+ gaming PC with top of the line hardware.

    • “That Guy”

      i dont think you understand, optimization and actually being able to run are two totally different things. Ghosts wasnt able to run on almost any PC, no matter what rig you had. These specs are too high because they should make it at least able to have it so people with mid range PCs can at LEAST play the game with low quality. they are just preventing many people from being able to buy the game.

  • Juses

    Anybody can run this 😛

    • Juses

      Also 6gb of ram? A fps does not need that much.

      • Freeze

        to be honest, the extra 2 is a 10 trip to a store or amazon

      • RdJokr

        Says you. Stop living in the fucking past.

        • Juses

          What? How am I living in the past? If crysis 3 does not need 6gb of ram neither does AW

  • Nice to know I could play it on my computer, but I wont. Console gaming for meh.

  • TheGamerBeast

    thank god NOW I’m HAPPY, and Now i’m sure that now i will be Downloading 55GB god help me lol, and who says 6GB is alot, which is not who Now a days doesn’t have 8GB atleast

    • NuttyTheSquirrel

      “Now a days doesn’t have 8GB atleast”

      Most people. Assuming that all people who are PC gamers have a Steam account, only 41,44% of those people have 8GBs or higher.

      Not only that, but almost 50% of Steam users have a 2 core CPU, which is sad :(…

      34% have only 1GB of VRAM and DAMN! Only ~29% use Windows 8 or higher. EVERYONE should be using Windows 8. It is far better than Windows 7.

      It boots quicker, it has the same features as Win7 (+ you can always download Start8, which gives you the Home button again, and it processes much more efficiently.

      • TheGamerBeast

        you’re so true

        actually about the windows part alot of people say that windows 7 is the best, which is wrong windows 8 is really fast and boosts your performance, actually the better that i have is 8.1 which is perfect rn, and about the RAM part people who wanna play Next Gen and high graphics games should have atleast 8GB ram, maybe AW 6GB maybe little high for min req, but games every year becomes more higher in graphics req, but personally if they made min 4GB for AW will be actually fair and good, but i’m good with it anway

        • NuttyTheSquirrel

          I don’t know why they say you’ll require 6GB. Look at Crysis 3 or battlefield 4, they recommend 4GBs and they look equally good, if not better.

          • TheGamerBeast

            i really don’t know & when Ghosts launched the min was 6GB ram also and they released a patch to be 4GB but let’s not talk about ghosts cz it was horrible on launch

          • Carlos

            Ghosts was good on consoles, horrible on PC.

          • DanDustEmOff

            Because Crysis and BF run on 32 bit operating systems so they can not exceed 4gb. Both ghosts and AW require 64bit operating systems, so the games can use more than 4gb of ram.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            That doesn’t matter. 64-bit enables you to use more than 4GB of RAM, but the game itself doesn’t use more than that. If Battlefield doesn’t use more than that it is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE for CoD to use more. Battlefield has every that CoD has going on and more stuff on top of that.

          • DanDustEmOff

            PhysX?

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            PhysX uses VRAM. And even if it was RAM intensive, I don’t think it would use as much as a game (2GB).

          • DanDustEmOff

            Surely that depends on how you have PhysX set up. If it’s dedicated to the cpu then I highly doubt that it will use the vRAM on the gpu. Anyway that’s besides the point. You stated BF has everything CoD has and more. I was pointing out that Ghosts uses PhysX and BF doesn’t. I also argued a while back that Ghosts has more detailed textures than BF, which you ridiculed and stated that you were going to get some screenshots to show me ‘just how wrong you are’…. Still waiting for those btw. So to clear up my position CoD has a lot more graphically going on, so of course the specs are going to be higher. It’s not a given that it is poorly optimized just because it is highly spec’ed.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            And I did, I remember shooting them and uploading them to imgur. Not only that, but Battlefield 4 has the option to set your Resolution Scale by 200%, 4K resolution which in itself changes the texture size. So no, Ghosts’ textures aren’t more detailed, nor does ghosts have more going on.

            I’m sorry, but that is a really stupid thing to say.

          • DanDustEmOff

            You may have uploaded them but you never replied with a link. Can’t talk about 4k as I have only played both at 1080p. I may be wrong , but I certainly remember being unimpressed with the textures in BF4’s mp and impressed by the textures in Ghost’s at 1080p. When I see your proof I may change my mind. But I will certainly download both again to see for myself.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Even Totalbiscuit says that Ghosts’ textures are bad.

            (Watch “► WTF Is… – Call of Duty: Ghosts (Multiplayer)”)

            And no, he is actually one of the best reviews ever, since he shows you gameplay and talks while playing the game. I’ve been a fan since forever and he is a neutral reviewer, he doesn’t levitate towards franchises because he likes them better.

      • DanDustEmOff

        Why should everyone. Use Windows 8? Surely that’s a matter of preference. personally I dislike Windows 8 and prefer 7. To me 8 is the Vista or Me of this gen. Had Windows 10 running for a while and it’s much better than 8. Especially from a productivity stand point. When 10 gets released I will get that but 8 is a complete disaster.

        • NuttyTheSquirrel

          Windows 8 is better than 7. It’s faster, it is more efficient and it has everything Win7 already has. Win10 is pretty much Win8 with a third party program to enable the start-button. It is still better than Win8, and of course it is better than Win8, that’s what they’re aiming for.

          It has much more features, one of them is how you can actually see what’s going on when moving or copy/pasting stuff.

          • DanDustEmOff

            Better is a matter of opinion. Personnally I dislike the ui. I don’t care if it is faster. From a productivity standpoint it sucks, I get what MS were trying to do but Win 8 wasn’t made with desktop in mind. Windows 10 is made for the desktop and other platforms, instead of tablets and phones. Win 8 was MS attempt to brute force desktop users on to metro. It is a massive failure even MS know this, which is why they are so keen to publish 10 and distance themselves from 8.

  • Mario Rivera

    In b4 a bunch of PC nerds start crying about bad optimization. Oops… guess I’m too late for that.

    • Juses

      “PC nerds”?

    • MichiganerE

      Crying about bad optimization? If the the PC port of the game is bad, then people have a reason to be angry. What if the game is badly optimized for consoles? How about that?

      • TheShadowReaper

        they dont think this through. in their little minds they believe that gaming in a console is an essential but gaming on a PC is a luxury, when its considered a luxury on both anyways. i’m guessing since they have nothing better than the PC (expect what? a handful of exclusives?) they need to have something that PC doesnt have or doesnt have better. their revenge is with COD optimized bad for PC…or so they think. they call PC gamers elitists but i’ve never seen such pro parity crybabies holding a controller ever.

        • MichiganerE

          Agreed. People forget that console games are developed on PC. And the more someone games on PC, the more likely they’ll have more knowledge of game development. Also, I believe ALL platforms should be treated equal and be pushed to their potential while having good optimization. If developers stopped being scared and had the balls to push each platform to it’s limits, we’d probably start seeing more out of gaming then we should.

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          A ‘handful’ of exclusives? You want me to remind you of the hundreds of incredible PS3 exclusives? The brilliant minds of Naughty Dog? PC honestly isn’t much better at all, especially because of the fact that you have to pay more with overcomplicated features.

          • Brandalf

            PC is a larger initial investment but in the long run console is more costly. PS+ and XBL subs, more expensive peripherials, nothing consoles do compares to Steam sales.

            Also as much as I love Sony exclusives you’re embellishing quite a lot with the “hundreds of incredible PS3 exclusives” line :p

    • Derrick Wingler

      As a PC gamer i would be pretty upset if i found out the console version of a game was shit compared to the PC version. I’m still pissed at Overkill for how they screwed console players on Payday 2. Why are you so antagonistic about us not wanting our version to suck like it did with the last COD? Seems like a pretty dickish way to be.

  • MichiganerE

    So, how broken will AW be on PC? Just as bad as Ghosts? Worse than Ghosts? Will they actually put effort into the PC port like with BO2? Who knows?

    • RdJokr

      Let’s look back at Ghosts for a minute.

      Ghosts ran on Xbone at 720p, PS4 at 1080p, and both struggle for stable 60 FPS. PC suffered from frame rate issues as well.
      Now, AW runs on Xbone at 900p, PS4 at 1080p (probably), and so far, Xbone framerates are pretty stable. That should reflect something on the PC version. It should, in theory, perform as well as the next-gen consoles, considering their similar structure.

      • MichiganerE

        Indeed. The Xbox One and PS4 are just low to mid range PC.

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          I understand mid range, but the PS4 is not even close to low range.

          • MichiganerE

            Okay then, they’re just low range PCs at most.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            XD oh you devil.

          • MichiganerE

            ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        PS4 had poor frame rate only because it went over 60 FPS. It was forced “parity”.

        • TheShadowReaper

          are you completely stupid!? or am i reading it wrong? O.O

          “PS4 had poor frame rate only because it went over 60 FPS”

          you are saying that PS4’s frame rate was bad because it was above the minimum for a good framerate which is 60? how…umm, i dont know…cant someone plz help me with this one? he has no idea what he is talking about.

          • Volt

            What he means is the PS4 went slightly above 60 frames at 1080p, and it couldn’t handle all that.

            So if it was too much to handle for the system, it had frame drops from time to time such as dropping to 20 to even 10!

            I believe it was set to 62-65.

          • TheShadowReaper

            and that’s why i cant stand console peasants. they have no idea what they are talking about…ever!

            it wasnt much for the system to handle, PS4 was more than capable to run Ghosts on 60 or more. same goes for the XBoxOne. Ghosts’s optimization was fucking bullshit. it run like hell on any machine. its not because they made the game to run on more frames than 60, no, that’s actually a good thing. its because the game couldnt get a stable frame rate anytime, anywhere. and even multiple Nvidia Titan cards couldnt handle it on PC on max.

          • MichiganerE

            Yep. Ghosts’ optimization was the worst of the franchise. It wasn’t that great on consoles, and it was god awful on PC. I believe that Nostalgia Critic had two Titans at the times of the games launch and the game STILL ran like shit. Fanboys defend a game when it does bullshit like that.

          • TheShadowReaper

            funny thing is that if you were to pirate the game you could play it on half the specs or even less on PC! nice parity that IW and ATVI created between the PC and the consoles. if they pull another Ghosts on us, not talking only for optimization but the parity thing as well they will face the wrath of PC gamers. what is it you may ask? no money! 🙂

          • MichiganerE

            Indeed. In fact, if they’re gonna keep pulling the same bullshit on PC every single year, then why even still release CoD games on PC at all. They stopped caring with MW2 (BO1 and 2 were exceptions I suppose).

          • TheShadowReaper

            BO and BO2 were exceptions because their developer, which is Treyarch, cares for PC. they are PC gamers themselves. not some lowly console peasants like IW are. if AW and SHGames flop this year they only COD dev that will get my money is going to be Treyarch. they deserve it.

          • MichiganerE

            Agreed. They fucked up with somethings on BO2, but it’s a good game.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Another PC problem; piracy, and PC is full of it.

          • TheShadowReaper

            when cornered, console slaves always bring up piracy. whay dont you ask Steam and Valve about piracy? ^^

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            You brought up piracy, not me. And “console slave”? PC players pay $1000 for their rigs, that’s $600 more than the PS4, for slightly better settings and frame rate. You have no right to call anyone a slave, especially when Valve has you hanging by DRM’s balls.

          • TheShadowReaper

            1k for my PC, 4 years now. i played the entire 7th gen on 1080p 60 fps maxed out and i’m going to play the entire 8th gen too 1080p 60 mostly maxed out. how much did you pay again? how much do your games cost? yeah, i thought so. there’s no debate, there never was a debate. PC is superior.

            Valve has given us plenty of reason to invest in DRM. if you have used Steam you know.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I play all of my games at 1080p, whether it’s 30 FPS or 60 FPS it’s irrelevant. I don’t need 200 FPS in order to have fun. That’s all you PC guys bitch about; graphics graphics graphics. Nothing about gameplay or narrative or anything actually important. Consoles are killing this industry? No, PC is.

            I pay $60 when I want to support the developers. Their blood, sweat, and tears go into their work. Games are a developer’s baby. A game takes more effort than a movie. But Steam isn’t the only console with sales. I got Injustice for $8. I get 2 free games a month. The PS4 was $400, your PC is $1000. I win. PC is superior? Not in games. You mentioned a “handful” of exclusives, and for someone who claims that you’re ‘bringing facts’, you’re completely wrong.

            I bet you bitched about Xbox One DRM. Keep on being hypocritical.

          • Tricky VIk

            “Seeing all the PC people argue kinda makes me wish this port is terrible, just so they can’t play.”

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I don’t want them to have a restricted experience, I just want them to be appreciative and respectful.

          • Tricky VIk

            “I know I know, I didn’t mean to say that so I take it back, I just wish some of the people weren’t so elitist, to just have fun and run with their pack, that’s what it comes down to, even the best computer isn’t worth it if you’re just alone.”

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Yep. Gaming isn’t about whose dick is bigger, it’s about having fun. People should own all platforms if they can.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            I know exactly what I’m talking about. When you lock a game at 60 FPS and a glitch occurs that sets the frame rate over the limit, then the game will stutter. It’s an annoyance.

          • Tricky VIk

            “You know calling people peasants is kinda meh, you should learn to be a bit nicer.”

    • Derrick Wingler

      Find out the next episode of drangon ball z: “PC Defeated!”.

      I built a pretty damn high end PC at least. Hopefully i can just brute force it into running well lol.

      • MichiganerE

        If it doesn’t, then SHG is going to deal with a huge shit-storm.

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          From the 10 PC players that actually play it? They’re too busy playing Counter-Strike.

          • MichiganerE

            There’s more then 10 players. The only reason the PC CoD community is so small now is because the developers stopped caring. Treayarch on the other hand is an exception.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Actually, CoD doesn’t sell well on PC at all, especially compared to console versions.

          • MichiganerE

            CoD used to.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Yeah, 7 years ago.

          • MichiganerE

            Right.

          • Brandalf

            Closer to 3-4 years ago.

  • How I think others will feel…

  • RdJokr

    Well, I can’t say I’m too excited. Mainly because this game is asking for quite a lot of HDD space (my main HDD only has 70GB free space left, so yeah…)
    And that’s only because I recently bought Final Fantasy XIII on Steam, and it took a whopping 60GB already…

    • TheShadowReaper

      yeah…i have an SSD with 100+ gb free on it but 55 is still a lot. we’ll see. if i dont want it on my SSD i can always opt for my HDD with has like 700+ gb free on it! 😛

  • CrowReap .

    I remember the time when games used to be less then 1GB and now, its like 55GB. (Not saying this is a bad thing but wow look at the difference from like 10 years ago and now)

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      Blu Ray. 😛

  • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

    PC players; is this good?

    • MichiganerE

      Well, it depends on how well or bad the game is optimized.

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        AKA it’s ‘meh’. Depends on the lower recommendations for Ghosts. But unlike Ghosts, AW looks the part.

        • MichiganerE

          And Ghosts had horrible optimization.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Because IW is bad on the tech side of things.

          • MichiganerE

            The last good PC IW game was CoD 4. Then with MW2, they stopped caring.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            So did MW2, BO1, and MW3.

          • MichiganerE

            Better than Ghosts.

          • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

            Not by much.

          • MichiganerE

            Oh, for sure.

    • RdJokr

      Would be nice if we get that information on dedicated server now though…

    • Danny Hargreaves Kernot

      not really no. i mean my new current pc im building has 8 gig. this game uses 6 what in the fuck? lol. this game will be i “imagine” a badly optimised piece of junk. im on console also. and i think this will work better on console than pc probably lol. as for an i3 ok i3 is like low tier cpu. more than likely will need an i5 or i7 for it to run well. even then. it still might be crap time will tell. and 55 gig? wtf lol. thats abit over sized. high end is better than minimum specs

      • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

        I thought so. AW actually looks really good, though. The 6 gigs are worrisome, I agree. If I were to get AW, I’d get it on PS4.

        • Danny Hargreaves Kernot

          no doubt it will work on console better. i would not get this on pc. lol. thats for sure

      • RdJokr

        6GB of RAM can be justified though. Let’s assume your PC has 6GB of RAM. Your PC alone, with all the tasks running at the same time, Steam included, should take up at least 1 to 2GB. The game could eat up to 3GB, maybe even 4GB. In such cases, you would want to have some extra RAM so your PC has some breathing room.

        • Danny Hargreaves Kernot

          well. ok look at the fiasco that ghosts was. history ALWAYS mostly repeats itself. i dont expect positive results but ive been around since the days of mw2 and bo1 cod is declining in the stability of there games. even bo2 hard freezes on ps3. i used to be on ps3 and now im on xbox. ive been on all platforms. the devs or well publisher also. favour other consoles more than making it work correctly on certain platforms. they know it sells so they just dont care lol

  • Already made a video about it lol,

    • MichiganerE

      Okay, Tmartn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

      • Haha i wish lol

        • MichiganerE

          No, you DON’T want to be Tmartn. I was just joking because you said you already made a video about it.

          • My dream job is to become a Youtuber.

          • MichiganerE

            Good luck with that. It we were in 2008, then you’d most likely be very popular. But now, in 2014, it’s hard to get somewhere. I rebooted back on October 20, 2013 and I’m lucky to have 360+ subs.

          • Check my channel out /ElectricShock14

          • MichiganerE

            I already did. 1737 subs isn’t a lot.

          • Yes i know

  • Blaine

    lmao artificial 6GB requirement AGAIN?!?! Did they not learn anything from the epic fail that was Ghosts on PC just 1 year ago?? It’s the same story all over again, this port will be another pathetic steaming pile of shit. The amount of RAM isn’t the problem – any respectable gaming PC will have at least 8GB – but any port that NEEDS 6GB (or claims to need) is going to run terribly, even on a system with far more than 8GB. Treyarch is (was) the only COD dev that knows a damn thing about PC, but now that PCDev has left them their next COD will probably be just as bad.

    But then again, COD is dead on PC. Even when Ghosts was new, the peak player count on PC every day was absolutely pathetic. Even if the game ran properly and wasn’t nearly unplayable, that doesn’t matter when there’s nobody else online to play with. BO2 was and will always be the last proper PC port. I anticipated AW being the first COD since WAW that I’ve skipped, so it’s no shocker to me, but this definitely seals the deal. I think I may finally be done with COD. GG Sledgehammer, GG.

    • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

      “I anticipated AW being the first COD since WAW that I’ve skipped, so it’s no shocker to me, but this definitely seals the deal. I think I may finally be done with COD. GG Sledgehammer, GG.”

      Just get it on console…

      • Blaine

        Kb+mouse or die.

        • Why? I don’t die with my Xbox one controller! Everyone has a personal preference. I like controllers. You like a keyboard and mouse. Deal with it.

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          I’m just as good with a kb/m as I am with a controller.

      • MrGladiator20

        Ok so if your done quit always talkin trash about cod on a cod forum. Do you want an invitation to leave? You sure as hell don’t need one

        • Brady the Defiled (sillibk)

          No need to get butthurt, the comments section is for stating opinions.

  • kplem

    im a PC gamer and for me as long as its optimized well which i have high doubts, im waiting for treyarch’s game and no i aint hoping on the bandwagon its because treyarch has their on dedicated PC team which SHG looks like another NEW IW. the reason is Max Payne 3 on PC had ridiculous specs (but they were recommend, plus it came out in 2012) but for some reason i could play the game on highest settings on my laptop with a nvidia GT 330M which was odd, but the concern comes in the ridiculous specs for AW are minimal? are you fucking kidding me? like that is where things go bad main reason is this game needs 60 FPS constant or its shit, it aint like rise son of rome or GTA etc etc on PC where it doesn’t need the 60FPS but cod does constant. im really hoping my 280x can take it im hopping for good optimization but like i said i have high doubts. im glad this game is flopping in sales. lets hope treyarch saves it they have stuffed up for me once which was BO2

  • TheShadowReaper

    the only thing that concerns me is the 6gb ram requirement. i mean…wtf. the game isnt a Crysis title. maybe “optimize” it guys instead of just porting it?

    • badoptimzation

      55 gbs a bit large as well to be honest. even needing an i3?! i know this isnt hard stuff to get but it is a bit ridiculous considering other games and whatnot.

      • TheShadowReaper

        that’s exactly my point. hardly some demanding games like BF and Crysis need that kind of stuff. all the rest just need a 4 core with 2.0 Ghz or more. i dont mind having better looking games for that price but when Unreal Engine 4 comes around and demands the same while looking way better then ATVI will have a problem.

    • J4MES

      I think the inflated RAM requirement is probably down to the engine and mechanics being stretched to oblivion. They’ve built it from the ground up but it’s still pretty tin-pot tech behind it and there’s probably a huge amount of excess data to support the basis to bring it up to par with today’s expectations. Compare this to the new Unreal Engine which is very clever platform because it looks absolutely staggering and it’s optimized to a state where it’s processing and holding as little storage as possible whilst looking er…unreal! Until Activision endorse a different engine or someone in the franchise develops a new standalone engine; it’s always going to be a demanding game for all the wrong reasons.

      • TheShadowReaper

        so fucking true, so fucking true…

  • So funny how the PC idiots know the minimum its the same for every game almost they were never specific they said “we want pc info” heres pc info!(i said pc idiots referring to the idiots who ruining it with the pc master race stuff)

    • The minimum specs matter because if they’re too high (Like with Ghosts) you can already tell it’s a bad port.

  • kyr95

    Im a pc gamer, though i dont brag about the capabilities of my pc or something like that. Im definitely getting AW on pc, i seriously dont have a problem with the requirements, ive had 6gb ram for 3-4 years, and so far i havent had a reason to believe SHG will deliver a bad port like Ghosts.I hope that everyone will enjoy playing the game in their console/pc. I dont want people to call me a “pc loser, master race stuff” and all this unecessary stupid things. I love pc because i love playing on pc, i love the feel of keyboard and the mouse will im sitting in my desk in my room ( bit poetic, i know haha 😛 ).I once went on an internet cafe in 2007, and i played a game-Call of Duty Modern Warfare…so yeah i play on pc thanks to Cod, and i love the experience 🙂
    Again, hope you all enjoy it in the end. A question though, to fellow pc players, as the size is 55 gb, im guessing it will take me a day at the most to install it through steam, and since i dont have the day zero edition in my country ( nooooo ), i dont want to waste the whole day that ill take off university. So i ask, would it be better but at the same time safe, to download it digitaly from steam, and not physically? Please, if anyone can tell me id appreciate it greatly 🙂

  • Aaron V

    The maximum potential that game devs are making games, are now able to be played the way they were mean’t to be played on current-gen consoles.

    PC will never have a huge edge over consoles in terms of graphics comparisons for a very long time IMO. Games already look as realistic as the creators want them to be at this point and current consoles can now show that.

    The whole argument of “PC has better graphics” for games is pretty much dead now and it will be for the foreseeable future. Sure they have superior graphics cards, but like i said before, games are being made to their maximum potential like they always have been, but now current-gen consoles are able to show that.

    Unlike last-gen consoles, they simply weren’t powerful enough to be able to play and show how the games were made at their maximum potential. It’s pretty simple.

    • Xbocks720p

      Hahahahahahahah! Funniest peasant post I’ve read in a long time. You’ve clearly never heard of 4K. The fact you think 2010 hardware architecture is good for the ‘next’ gen just shows you have no grasp of high-end gaming. Perhaps you spent too long on the 360. Games like Advanced Warfare look no better than Crysis 2 on max settings.

      Most clueless post I’ve read on here in a long time and this is coming from a CoD fanboy site lulz.

      • Aaron V

        1. I’ve heard and know what 4K is, nice failed assumption.

        2. I never said i thought 2010 hardware was good for next gen, nice fail again.

        3. I built my own custom “high-end gaming” PC. Fail again.

        4. “Perhaps you spent too long on the 360” I had my custom built PC even before X1. So i knew how games looked Maxed on PC even when i had a 360. Fail….. Again.

        5. Games like Advanced Warfare look no better than Crysis 2 on max settings. Cool? I don’t see any point proven here. Fail.

        6. “Most clueless post I’ve read on here in a long time and this is coming from a CoD fanboy site lulz.” Now that i made you look like an idiot, it’s obviously not clue-less and yet you are here. Have a nice day buddy LOL.

        • Xbocks720p

          1. Liar
          2. Liar
          3. Liar
          4. Liar
          5. Liar
          6. Nope

          Upvoting your own post isn’t going to enhance your credibility either. Peasant.

        • TheShadowReaper

          also, when cornered just say “i have a pc or i have build a pc” and all of a sudden you think you tricked us into being a pc gamer. seriously, clowns do not even try these days anymore. at least make up a believable lie for us to bite into.

    • Michael

      Who cares about graphics? Consoles are holding back gaming on a ridiculous level and it’ll be worse on this gen as we’ll have to cope with another 5+ years of HD gaming which has been in the industry for already over 7 years. Even 4K will be dated when these consoles come to an end.

      • Aaron V

        “Who cares about graphics?” ……….. Everything you just said after that is basically irrelevant then, lol. But you’re right, who cares? That’s my point. I’m just letting everyone know (Mostly the PC Elite whores) that it doesn’t matter anymore.

        And you say that the industry is being held back when the developers don’t actually care to move past where gaming is right now. It doesn’t need to get better graphically right now. So im not sure what you’re trying to say. WHO CARES ABOUT GRAPHICS.

        • TheShadowReaper

          when someone makes a valid point just flag it as “irrelevant” and you’ve won the argument without giving out facts or truths. good going, consoles clowns keep impressing me everyday.

          • whoa

            Awww someones mad because thier a PC fanboy XD

  • Sal

    That’s boderline Crysis…

  • DarthDan97

    I definitely plan to pick it up on one of the steam sales when I get my pc next year! 🙂

  • Guest

    Those aren’t bad minimum specs

  • iBlindHD

    6 GB RAM AGAIN? SRSLY? I mean.. I have 8GB ram, i7 4700k, GTX760.. So I’ll be able to run it, no problem..But this is the first info about PC that we heard, and its bad. Doesn’t lead to good :/

  • OscarTheTitan

    Thank goodness. For a second when I read 6GB I automatically went to VRAM and I was about to flip my shit 😛 It would seem like this will be like good port! Now let’s hope for some great in game options (GOOD FOV SLIDERS WOULD NICE SH!! :D)

  • Oh boy, console gamers fighting against PC gamers about something they have no clue… I’m a console gamer myself and I’m not saying I know a lot more but at least I know something. :p

  • Archie83

    This specs are really low. Seems that Advanced Warfare is still an old gen forward-port of a 360 game. 99% of PC players will be able to run this comfortably even with rigs from 2010. Just goes to show how dated the ‘next gen’ consoles are.

    • SPAWNST4R

      its just an “updated” MW3 engine so yeah !

  • J4MES

    The only game that hasn’t ran well on PC was Ghosts and looking at these requirements; they should be fairly routine to run for most people in this day and age. I am very impressed with Sledgehammer with AW and if they get the optimisation right; the game will be excellent in many aspects. Infinity Ward left a bad taste in people’s mouths after how bad Ghosts was as a game and how the PC version was abysmally strung together but they have to be one of the weakest and clueless developers out there from a design and technical standpoint. If SHG can mimic how Treyarch execute their games in quality and in regards to the technical side; it’ll be sublime.

  • Ghosts never used more than 2 gb of RAM and so AW won’t.

  • k5berry

    Everyone debating over PC specs, and I’m just here like “So uhhhh… do PC players like go to Target and get the disc in the “PC-ROM” disc?…”

  • Guywithbrains

    If finally some PC elitists (not talking about all PC players) can shut up. Enough of this non-sense and calling SHGames names for no reason. Also since when people have played console games (yeah I know Call of Duty was before PC game but not anymore) on PC?

    But in the end it is nice to see this port seems like to be at least better than Ghosts. I hope you PC guys can enjoy Call of Duty again on your 3000 dollars PC. 😀

    • SPAWNST4R

      yeah but them specs are for a $150 PC so…..

  • Diego Diniz

    Im wondering…how is gonna be EXo Movements on PC??? Dodge for example…will be a Double Shift Button + D??? DOuble Shift + A???

  • SlyCooper5555 .

    I wish this stupid PC vs console war would stop it is getting rather childish. Everyone has their opinions and like what they they think best suits them. Gamers these days care WAY too much about specs, just enjoy the game for what it is.

  • LovekillerX

    I don’t know if this means anything but surely demolition fans might be interested. Found this image from SAC3 article on Call of Duty wiki. Refresh if not visible.

    EDIT: It seems like these doesn’t mean anything.

    • J4MES

      Those were the gamertag submission winners who got featured in the MP trailer. DemolitionPit is a real Xbox Live player

      • LovekillerX

        Okay thanks for information. I didn’t know that.

  • ALOKAKO123

    ok we got minimum so what are recomended .)

  • Take Two

    I smell another Ghosts port, 6gb of ram, for what?

  • Take Two

    Oh and i can’t wait to plug my mouse and kb to play AW on PS4, a easy way to earn some quick money 😉

    • Diego Diniz

      Cheater…

      • Take Two

        Cry more, the games are made to play with kb n mouse

        • Diego Diniz

          I am a PC PLayer…I like to PLay with Keyboard + Mouse but…when I play on my PS4..I play with DS4 Controller…Fair Play. Because if you feel a better player playing with Keyboard + mouse on a platform that EVERYBODY plays with a controller…you are just a DUMB ASS…

          • Take Two

            Trust me i would, how many DS4 controllers i replaced cuz of their poor quality, and moving from PC to consoles, it’s hard to play with it.So salut for great players with controller and stop bitching it.It’s legit from Sony and MS

          • Diego Diniz

            Yes, its legit. But not a “Fair PLay”!

          • J4MES

            To be fair; plenty of players on consoles use undetectable modded controllers that are allowed. KB/M is supported in a few games so if someone wants to use that; they can.

          • Diego Diniz

            One thing I can tell for sure: PC have much more Cheaters than Consoles. I play on both since MW2.

    • You can’t use a keyboard/mouse on PS4 in games unless you’re using a special adapter, they’d still replicate the analog stick so your mouse movement wouldn’t be accurate

      • Take Two

        Sure i can, XIM here we go yah.With a little tweak i disable auto aim and my aim is more precise.So the gaming is much more fun

        • If you’re speaking the truth, my bad then. 😛

  • jasonxbrookes

    The PC vs. Console argument is too strong in this thread. Way to go guys, making all gamers look like complete nerds.

    “ERHMAHGERD MY PC RUNS FER-K AND UR CONSULES CAN’T EVEN DO TERN-EIGHTY-P!” Grow the hell up.

    • JaBoiKnoWs

      That’s because most PC gamers are nerds. When you go around arguing specs and whether console or PC is better, you’re a nerd. Some people need to go outside.

  • Christopher Ricci

    PC will always be better than console if you haven’t noticed, the game is made on PC and not consoles for a reason.

    • If you didn’t notice Ghosts was playable on consoles in the launch.

    • Guywithbrains

      PC is too expensive in my opinion. You have to change your CPU, GPU… you name it. Also if I want to buy a game, then it is too hard to know if it will run on your computer. Console has that advantage that when you see it says “PS4”, I know it will work.

      Also I think only games that should be played on PC are MMO and strategy games. In my opinion.

  • Christopher Ricci

    but 6 gigs minimum is a flaw within the game engine, or it is a superficial cap they made up to make the game seem high tech, crysis, far cry 4, and all the frostbyte engines only require 4 gigs minimum because you can turn the graphics all the way down to basic you know? Basic would not or shouldn’t require 6 gigs that’s just silly.Your system will be eating damn near 2 gigs of ram with background applications alone making it dangerously close to maxing your ram usage 24/7 it just was a bad move on their part but hey my $2500 system is ready for just about anything their silly lil asses can come up with so bring it on. Not trading my machine for a console anytime soon.

  • JaBoiKnoWs

    CoD is a console game that is meant to be played and enjoyed with friends on a CONSOLE. I’ll never understand why people want to play CoD on a PC …

    • MyKogInYourAshe

      CoD started as a PC exclusive, and CoD 4 was better on PC………So I think you’re wrong

      • JaBoiKnoWs

        You’re proving my point. I don’t care if it was a PC exclusive 10 years ago. It’s been better on console since CoD 5. Things change, move on.

        • Toby84

          The only bad COD game on PC was Ghosts and that was a terrible game in its own right. COD was born on the PC and will always be better on PC. The community isn’t filled with little quickscoping, whiny brats and campers. The PC version is for players with skill and who are good at the game. The console versions is for campers and people who can’t afford to be a part of elite gaming. Even the next gen consoles are about 5 years out of date now struggling to get just 900p in what was industry standard back on PC in 2006.

          Can’t stand these bitter, jealous peasants!

          • Guywithbrains

            How is 3000 dollars PC worthy if you get the same resolution as console (AC: Unity) and also your so called exclusives… the latest I know which is coming is game that tells an emotional story about bread getting ready to be toasted. Consoles are cheaper, they have real exclusives and it is easy to play with friends on console.

            You can play with PC if you want but don’t tell us that PC is flawless compared to consoles.

          • Toby84

            My $1,250 PC can support 4K and thanks to the PC community; games like AC Unity will run at this rate with unlocked fps. I’ll be playing AW on my NOT $3k PC in 4K too with 144fps. Your assumption that PC’s cost this much just shows your lack of knowledge and perhaps is why you were stupid enough to buy an Xbox One. My second hand work PC which cost $270 is still more powerful than the Xbox One and that I bought back in 2010! I bet you’re just bitter because you got sucked into buying inferior technology at a ridiculous price. Steam is also twice the size of Xbox Live in terms of players and the COD community is booming with proper players and not idiotic kids. I know where I’d rather play.

            You should perhaps change your name to Guywithoutabraincell.

          • Guywithbrains

            Yeah starting price might be 1,250 dollars but you have to invest to PC forever. Always you have to change GPU, CPU whatever you name it. So ending price might be 8000+ dollars.

            Second, I own PS4 for a couple of reasons: cheap, simple, easier to play with friends, no elitists like you (10 years old are better playing company than elitists)

            I couldn’t care less if Steam is larger because I don’t use Playstation Store to buy games.

            But you still didn’t answer anything to console ports you are starting to get. Also actually good and triple A exclusives? I don’t see any on PC.

            In the end I won’t bother anymore with you. You have your opinion, I have mine. I won’t change my name because I actually have conservation skills, but you started to call me names right away. I forgive you because I know internet nowadays isn’t the best place to give out opinions – people just go mad.

          • Toby84

            PS4 Cheap LOL! You clearly are absolutely clueless. Also it doesn’t look like you’ve ever been on Steam. I’ve saved thousands over the years on cheap games. Advanced Warfare physical cost me just $30 which is half the price of the PS4 version. Also I haven’t upgraded my gaming PC for 4 years and wont need to for another 3 and it’s still streets ahead of the current consoles and will be in years to come. You have no grasp of the market which is why you should stick to console gaming. If you haven’t heard of any major PC exclusives; you should stay lost in your utter ignorance.

            This site has more cod kiddies than ign!

          • Dipper

            pc= counter strike (1.6, source and GO), half life, rfactor, simraceway, assetto corsa, steam, origin, mods for games, free games, internet access, movies and media (videos, pictures, and more…) and more more more….

          • Guywithbrains

            Counter-strike= already old game, I don’t play it
            Half Life = some random game I’m not interested in
            Rfactor = what is this?
            Simraceway = never heard of
            Assetto corsa= never heard of
            Steam= overrated, I buy my games physically to my PS4
            Origin= I thought this was something PC users wants to get rid of…
            Mods= Let the developers do the game, I hate these persons who try to be developers by making new content
            Free games= Playstation Plus?
            Internet access= PS4
            Movies and media= My DVD player and PS4 takes handle of this

            I don’t want to be annoying or anything. You can have your opinion, I respect it.

          • Juses

            Why would you hate modders? They make games better. You obviouly hate them because you’ve never experinced games with mods. (Not Cod hacked lobbies)

          • kplem

            let the devs do the work? yeah if they make shitty as decision or if they stop supporting the games modders step in, modders with like the DAYZ mod have gotten jobs etc pletny of more great reasons why mods are a blessing, stop hating on mods because you dont have them. MODS make games better end of story

          • J4MES

            $3,000? That’s a bit pricey. I can build a Xbox One comparable rig for under £300.

          • Guywithbrains

            Investing to PC forever makes it even more. Believe it or not.

          • J4MES

            Not really. If you know how to build and maintain a gaming PC plus develop it; it’s a very cost-effective route to high-end gaming. The Steam catalogue and prices also save you hundreds in a year. My gaming PC will have a lifespan of at least 10 years and that only cost £1399. I won’t need to upgrade it until I decide to move towards 5K if I choose to, whilst my PS4 will still be sitting at basic HD which has been around for a very long time. If you have the money and want top quality gaming that represents value for money in the long run; PC is where it’s at. A solid gaming investment without the 900p squabbles associated with the current machines.

          • Dipper

            3000 pc, not sure

          • Juses

            $3,000? you can build a good pc for $800 and out peform next gen 😛
            Btw pc has more exclusives than consoles

          • Guywithbrains

            A bunch of simulators yet no actual triple A exclusives. Also every PC player here forget new hardware actually costs real money. So when upgrading your hardware and software… the cost of PC just keeps going up and up…

          • Juses

            I think you mean first party. not triple A exclusives. I think you should use Google. Theres alot of exclusives on pc, not just simulators 😛

            and you can build a $1,000 pc now that can last many years. so yea…. you don’t have to buy every new graphics card. You can still use a gtx 660 from 2012 and still play games on high 😛

        • badoptimzation

          how do people as dumb as you even exist. do you honestly not understand how fucking retarded you are. like its not even funny. i cant believe it. i really cant. you are just that level of dumb. so fucking stupid.

          • JaBoiKnoWs

            Talk about being a peasant. Calm down bud. It’s just video games.

    • Dipper

      mouse and keyboard, thats all for me

    • PingPong

      Steam is the biggest gaming market on the planet. Sadly Call of Duty is a very average game by PC standards despite being allegedly ‘great’ on console. Cod 4 on PC had the biggest audience of a game with up to 1.6m on at a time – far greater than the 360 and PS3 versions combined. Every Cod game after that has been awful and dumbed-down for console simpletons which is why players are looking elsewhere for a decent level of gaming.

    • J4MES

      4K PC + 46 inch 4K TV + Steam Big Picture + Xbox Controller = Gaming on another level.

  • Tricky VIk

    “I can already see people fighting in this article, talking about PC is better and consoles are better, lets just play what we wanna play and be friends, simple as that.”
    Edited: “Just looked down at the comments, peasants and master races, oh sigh, we need to settle this petty rivalry and become friends, either that or Activision does what Ubisoft did and lock specs for every platform.”

    • Diego Diniz

      Amen to that Bro! Give me a Hug…

      • Tricky VIk

        -bro hug-

    • drjakeyoung

      Just wandering, i totally agree, but why do you have to have quotation marks throughout the whole message?

      • Tricky VIk

        “Habit, freedom, I like it, it’s programmed into my fingers, doesn’t harm anyone, fun.”

        • ScOott

          Lmao I’m going to ask u the same question in the next article charlie intel post it seems to be a popular one

          • Tricky VIk

            “Ask away!” <3

    • Carrisi

      PCs are great for certain games agreed. COD is a console game. This is a COD site. PC players wind your neck in no one cares, including SH.

  • LovekillerX

    It seems like you get that zombie wave only on map called “Riot.” They have article about it where it is told as I said. Why they have it only on Riot?

    However it won’t matter to me but for someone it might matter.

    • marty bogroll

      I think its there as a reference to the walking dead since riot is a prison map

  • Slothigans

    Off topic but i fucking love this new look of the site.

  • Recehptive

    Has anyone seen the new layout for this website?

    • ScOott

      Yh I like it 😀

  • Ryumoau

    wow…way to prove the stereotypes of pc gamers all being entitled pricks. I can’t believe the comments in this thread. I’ll never understand the fascination they have with waving their small e-penises around like the rest of us actually care about how well their overpriced gaming machines run a game.
    They will still never play the memorable first party exclusives that companies like Nintendo and Sony create. You all just look like insecure children.

    • CoDGod

      ”and alot of pc gamers just end up stealing ideas from consoles anyway like using xbox controllers or hooking their pc up to a tv”

      I hooked my controller up to my pc whilst playing on my tv in 1991. It’s nothing new kid. Also many pc gamers including myself own a ps3/4 so we do play console exclusives now and again. Many of them aren’t very good but it’s not 1 system per person lol!

      • Ryumoau

        sure whatever you say. Next time how about actually making a real account to reply to me and not a lame guest one. Also, did you just upvote your own comment? Thats really lame. :/

        • CoDGoD

          Nope. Also I don’t wish to register an account at this time on this site because it doesn’t strike me as the most mature community at present which is expressed in this thread between bitter console players and PC elitists. Many people seem to be spouting completely nonsense on things they simply don’t know and then getting defensive where they get proved wrong. I am merely here for information at this present time. It’s people like yourself and others in this thread that is giving the Call of Duty community an even more immature and pathetic industry identity and it’s not fair on the people who run this site having to put up with such an IGN-esque support base.

          PC gamers and console gamers should be happy and not bitching with Advanced Warfare just around the corner. If it’s this bad on here; I feel sorry for SHG having to put up with such an intolerable community mentality. It’s no wonder Infinity Ward gave us the middle finger.

          • Ryumoau

            wah…wah…wah. Such entitled crybabies. :/

          • Carrisi

            Infinity ward ran out of ideas and then went in the wrong direction. SH have seen the mistakes, listened to the community and taken the good bits from previous titles. I’m really looking forward to the game.

    • Juses

      I wouldn’t say overpriced because you can build a pc better than next gen consoles for the same price. Also they have a reason to complain because they’re getting another crappy port. Btw its called a emulator or they can play the game on the console they most likely already have 😛

      • Ryumoau

        so steal games to play them on pc. Pc gamers are looking better and better. :/

        • Juses

          You can emulate games on phones or handhield devices such as a 3ds. So it’s not only pc gamers who do that 😛

        • Juses

          also idk how thats stealing

        • TheShadowReaper

          steal games? do you see any retailer selling NES games or am i blind and didnt see that? console clowns are so amusing at times.

      • Leger

        No you couldn’t go right now with $400 and build a PC stronger than a ps4. I can guarantee that is not possible. With $550 yes.

        • TheShadowReaper

          it is possible, stop lying to yourself.

    • Carrisi

      And even with the enhanced spec I’d argue they run better on the platforms the developers designed them for, next gen

    • JaBoiKnoWs

      THIS. So pathetic people think they’re hot sh*t because they have a nice PC? Wouldn’t doubt majority of PC Gamers reside in mommy’s basement and get absolutely no pussy. None. Fun life to live! Tell me more about your specs bro!!!

  • Felipe Rios

    Off topic, but I’m digging the new mobile site design! Great job!

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      Same, very sleek

  • NiftyGam3r

    Whats up with charli intels new look? Feels weird

    • Juses

      i don’t see it 😛

      • justchill1234

        me neither…

  • meow

    you all know the differences just shut up. this is about AW, i play PC thats my choice, ive just spent £1300 upgrading. why ? why would you get a skyline when a micra can still get the job done? you play console then good for you i couldnt care less and you shouldnt care too.

  • kyr95

    Guys, what do you think would be faster and easier on buying AW on pc? Digitally or Physically?

    • J4MES

      Digitally especially with the pre-load feature available before release. I had a physical version of Ghosts on PC as I got it really cheap and it was 3 bloody discs lol!

      • kyr95

        Im asking due to the fact that i have university and ill be very busy that week, the preload feature will help alot, since if i bought it on 4th, it would take me 10 hours to download ( 1.6 mb/s internet 😛 ). Is it safe though?

  • Juses

    Something kewl happens when i clich on charlie intel :O

  • Juses

    Hello i break the rules. I’m on the website when i’m not susposed to be because of new lay out

    • Tricky VIk

      “Sounds like you’re looking for another IP ban.”
      x3

      • Juses

        You’re on the website too. You get ip ban too?

        • ScOott

          I’m going to get banned to 😀

        • Tricky VIk

          “But it shows the old lay out, if they really didn’t want us on here they’d go offline right?”
          “What I meant was saying you’re allegedly breaking the rules and stuff, dun worry though, I noticed you get picked on alot, cheer up.”

      • You’re all getting banned

        • Tricky VIk

          “I rarely ever see you in the comments section, hard at work?”
          o:
          “Bringing us awesome news, keep it up.”

  • Tricky VIk

    “I noticed it’s probs cause I’m on Mozilla, if it makes the mods job easier being off then I’ll go, keep up the great work guys.”

  • kia0525

    6gb ram? I’m no dev but that’s pretty high for minimum requirements.

    • Freeze

      Most pcs have 8 at this point, and its like 20$ to add 4gb

  • ScOott

    Has everyone’s name just changed colour? I hope so unless my eyes r playing tricks on me again :-/

    • Drugs are bad, mmkay.

      • ScOott

        Shut it u donkey raping shit eater

  • JaBoiKnoWs

    Wow so many butthurt PC gamers on my last post. Face it, it doesn’t matter where CoD “originated” That was a long time ago, now it’s much more popular on consoles. Get over yourselves.

    • Brandalf

      Seems to me like you need to get over yourself; you made an ignorant statement and people called you on it as they should have. Of course it matters where the franchise was fostered early on. If it weren’t for the success and popularity of the early games on PC there would be no COD these days. At least recognize that fact.

      Lets also not forget that COD has stopped outselling itself every year and pre-order numbers are falling each year. The franchise is slowly dying on all platforms; just much more rapidly on PC.

      • JaBoiKnoWs

        Wasn’t ignorant at all. Times change. People are just butthurt.

  • Mr_ysi42t96

    Anyone knows when the pre download on ps4?

  • exeterman2

    Really not liking this new look charlie intel, it over complicates the style of the website. Function over form guys.

    • Is it only on mobile?

      • exeterman2

        I don’t know, possibly

      • Mr_ysi42t96

        Yes, not that bad though

  • Underdog BO1 FTW!

    Thanks god they added FOV because i got banned for fucking using 3rd party fov!
    Fuck you infinity ward, fuck you ghosts and fuck you my first call of duty…

    • Diego Diniz

      We will have FOV Slider on Consoles too??? or only on PC?

      • Underdog BO1 FTW!

        Why would you want that on Console? It’s on PC only

        • Let me ask you, why would you want it on PC? I’ve used fov on console and I like it.

          • Underdog BO1 FTW!

            That’s a stupid question… Almost all PC games have fov, It makes you dizzy when playing at 65 FOV because you sit infront of your monitor. Try 90 fov for 1 day, you’ll love it

          • No, I asked seriously. Not a dumb question.

            And by the way, some people sit in front of their monitors while playing on console…

          • Underdog BO1 FTW!

            I really don’t know man :/ Maybe idk lol
            Special for PC i guess? and Your FPS will drops if you change your FOV, Maybe that’s why because console can’t even hit 1080p

          • Yeah, in MW3 there was a glitch on PS3 if you watched hacker’s teather mode videos, you would get a weird fov. Maybe it was just placebo but I thought it made my accuracy better, because I had always thought people used fov to play better.

          • Diego Diniz

            I play PS4 on my BenQ 144hz Xl2420T Monitor Kick Ass 2.0 Mother Fucker Damn Good Frame Rate Version…

          • meow

            I’m sure 60fps is making great use of that 144hz

      • Primey_

        No. Developers think most console gamers don’t need a way to change the fov because 65 (The default for every CoD game) is fine for people who sit far away from their screens. PC gamers sit closer to the screen and with a fov of 65 a lot of people, including me, get very dizzy and feel sick after a few minutes. If you sit close to your screen and play on console then you’re shit out of luck, you will never be able to change the FOV.

        Increasing the FOV can have an effect on your framerate so increasing it on consoles would be a bad idea because they are barely pushing 60fps in CoD.

  • iBlindHD

    FoV!!! Getting more and more pumped for this game!

  • omar_soft

    55 Gigabytes? Goodbye Titanfall LOL

  • Diego Diniz

    My PS4 let me down and I HAVE TO send to Warranty after 8 weeks. So, I will have to buy PC version and wait my PS4 come back… Sad but True! If you guys wanna help somebody…help a poor Brazilian guy with no manoey to buy PC AND PS4 versions…gimme a PC version for free please!

  • When were the colors added to the new look

  • Juses

    There really is a new lay out on mobile :O

  • Anime Fan

    Look at all the fanboys in the comments…

  • Could someone show me the mobile layout?

  • Josh2242

    I’ve never seen so many comments on an article XD

  • GTX 760? Damn, that’s pretty demanding.