Sledgehammer Games’s Michael Condrey has posted a blog post on SHGames’s site talking about the most popular topic in Advanced Warfare – Skill Based Matchmaking. In a lengthy statement, Condrey states that connection is still a priority and that the matchmaking system currently in Advanced Warfare resembles previous Call of Duty titles, but Advanced Warfare does consider player skill while matchmaking to level the playing field.

First, and I can’t stress this enough, player connection to the host always takes priority over skill in the matchmaking process – always, no exceptions. Fast connection to a match hosted on our global dedicated servers is the most important component of our matchmaking system. And yes, to a lesser extent skill as a component of matchmaking is important, too. We believe that it adds a level of fairness in the mechanism for team balance and individual enjoyment. The system we have today is, to all intents and purposes, identical to what Activision has always had in place, with the same matchmaking parameters, as previous Call of Duty titles.

Another issue that has arisen with SBMM is that players get matched with players in other countries. Condrey says that this happens in “fringe” cases, where the player count is lower and differences in which players are playing certain modes.

A few of you have asked, and we’ve also noticed, that some players have experienced fringe cases like being matched with someone in another country. Much of this comes down to the pool of people online and which modes are being played at any point in time.

A big issue that has arisen with SBMM is something called “reverse boosting,” where players intentionally lower their stats to match with lower skill players. Activision and SHGames has been banning players thus far, and Condrey says that they will continue to do so.

It’s not right, and it hurts you and your team’s online experience. Call of Duty is both social and competitive, and we respect and honor that.

Condrey assures us that the team at Sledgehammer Games are continuously optimizing the matchmaking experience and will continue to alter as they get more feedback from fans and more information from their data. He has stated that they will continue to update us on changes and improvements that are made.

SOURCE: SHGames (Condrey’s full statement is available in the link) | [main image via @eLevateKela]

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  • Well, looks like it’s here to stay… But I still don’t believe this
    “The system we have today is, to all intents and purposes, identical to
    what Activision has always had in place, with the same matchmaking
    parameters, as previous Call of Duty titles.”

    • KernosT

      So basically even if he wanted to change it,ATVI decides what kind of connection the game runs on.Fucking pathetic moneywhoring cunts.I think that proves why he didnt reply to any message from anyone regarding SBMM.Cos ATVI PR didnt allow him to.

    • Guest

      He basically just said he copied and pasted just like every other cod did….facepalm

    • mark brookes

      money talks.. i have 152meg download with 12 meg upload and 10ms ping with a 1kd ratio yet i shoot a full clip that gets me hit markers, i have played every multiplayer cod game since world at war, matches me with india and america all the time. my clan are all from the uk n we never get host anymore but previous cod games i did (10000kbps bandwidth in settings on advanced warfare).. yet they claim it’s the same system in use

  • And the waterworks begin.

  • Michael Condrey block me when I told him I made $110 selling reverse boost accounts all thanks to SBMM….

    • KernosT

      He cant reply or do anything.ATVI PR wont allow him to,He is fired if he replies.

      • common sense

        If he would rather lie to the public to save face, then there is seriously something wrong.

    • jordanxbrookes

      What if Michael Condrey secretly reverse boosts? How hilarious would that be?

      • Marshall

        I blamed him on twitter for doing so haha, he responded to me too – here is the link to my tweet if you care – https://twitter.com/iGotGFX/status/554121820865953793

        • Marshall
          • Mr Doge

            Haha thats a great comeback.

          • ccrows

            Glen Schofield is hands down the WORST Community manager of all 3. (Yes GS is actually worse than Tina)

            Anybody here can do a better job than Glen.

            Seriously what does Glen do?

            ^ Nothing! He ignores questions, and Tweets caricatures. He does NOTHING ELSE!

            He has no idea how to play COD, and he’s completely clueless why people get mad at this game… (especially when it comes to SBMM)

          • RdJokr

            Schofield isn’t a community manager. That’s Condrey’s job atm. Remember, this guy is the co-founder of SHG. He’s got a lot of important executive-type work to do. Hence why he doesn’t show up on Twitter that often.

            While I do agree that Schofield (and even Condrey) should be more active in answering community questions, you also have to recognize the fact that they’re only human, and they have a life outside of COD. You can’t expect them to be in the mood to answer every goddamn question that comes their way.

          • ccrows

            Condrey isn’t the community manager either. “Technically” there isn’t one ATM.

            However when this game launched, Glen started off as the role of CM, and then that fell off to the wayside. Condrey basically picked up the ball recently, because Glen pissed a lot of people off by not answering questions, and then Michel pissed a lot of people off with how he’s handling the SBMM BS.

            As for the “Lives” part that you wrote, No S*** Sherlock! – but in comparison to other CMs, Von is IMO is the most interactive with the community. Even Bowling had a good run before he stopped caring in MW3…

          • RdJokr

            That’s because Vonderhaar and Bowling don’t have to handle all the executive stuffs that studio heads like Schofield and Condrey have to go through. That’s why you don’t see Mark Lamia on Twitter. He’s too busy with his job as Studio Head. That is why Treyarch currently has Vonderhaar for the job.

          • ccrows

            Von is a Dev. There’s a lot of time and effort just to do that job alone, yet he still wears the hat of “unofficial” Community Manager as well.

            A game like COD needs a Community Manager for each dev team. If you’re too lazy or cheap to hire one, then you deserve to get pounded as the unofficial CM when you royally F*** up… (such as this SBMM mess)

          • no comment

            I mean y did SHgames say a pack includes exo zombies but u have to buy a extra 35 dollar season pass

          • mark brookes

            they got our hard earned cash now.. so why respond to our questions?

          • mark brookes

            both have time to go to the bank to spend our money!

          • Mario Rivera

            a cm doing nothing wouldnt be worse than tina…

          • ccrows

            Tina IMO was a HUGE step down compared to Bowling and Von. (not even remotely close to Von)

            & Yes she shared waaay too much of her personal life on Twitter, but she still communicated more about COD than what SH is currently doing.

            At least I knew who was the F***ing Community Manager of IW, not this Glen does it for a while and then Michael does it for a while BS!

            ^ By DLC2, SHG will probably have Mayor McCheese answering questions… *SMH*

            http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_16002.jpg

          • Keshav Bhat

            Uh, before you go on roasting and insulting people, you need to first educate yourself. Glen Schofield is not a community manager of any studio. He is the Studio Head at SHGames.

          • ccrows

            annnnnnnd I already explained where I was going with that later…

          • Chris Rash

            Is literacy a problem for you?

          • mark brookes

            get a fancy job title then turn your back on the people..

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            He acts like KD even matters.

    • ccrows

      No doubt that what you did/were doing is wrong, but at least you didn’t lie about what you were doing.

      Condrey is FLAT OUT LYING that “players get matched with players in other countries happens in ‘fringe’ cases”.

      I’m in Chicago, and I’ve had NUMEROUS encounters with people in England, and different areas in South America. That happens “at the very least” once every night. Fringe areas my F**king ASS!

      ^ If he’s gonna lie about that, then he’s obviously lying that connection takes priority over skill too…

      • What I did is no different than selling my own personal account just because it had over 200 Platinum trophies on it. So no, I don’t think I’m in the wrong; Condrey shouldn’t had implement just a stupid system like SBMM, period. I still can’t believe he got so butthole over it too. But hey, the community have spoken buying my accounts.

        • ccrows

          “Condrey shouldn’t had implement just a stupid system like SBMM, period.”

          ^ I agree with you 100% on that, but still reverse boosting does ruin lobbies. (especially if you’re feeding)

          But whatever, I’m not gonna get mad at you about it since you’re right. SBMM had no business being in this game in the first place…

        • This is all SH’s fault. The community wouldn’t be exploiting AW if they wouldn’t implement something as stupid as SBMM. This should be a good enough reason to cut SBMM out completley and permanently, especially after Treyarch cut it out the first month the game came out.

      • thebulky1cometh

        You’re in Chicago and playing COD? Do you do so while dodging real life bullets?

    • WasabeJuice

      It is a good thing that SH games are not listening to losers and whiners like you, all those who are loud on this site and always complain about SBMM are whiners, they always complain coz they always lose.

      • I’m in no way complaining. I just thought it was funny I was able to make profit out of this ridiculous system and he just got butthole over it. Me losing? be careful who you talking to man, I’m the biggest tryhard you will ever meet (I’m not going to lie).

        PSN: KnightZhroud
        Check my stats on CoD Tracker and try again. Ohh, while you at it, you see that emblem I have? that represents you in a nutshell; taking Condrey’s c*** up your ass and he just left you there…crying

        Have a nice day

      • mark brookes

        dont worry guys.. it’s the stupid ones that don’t listen. sbmm gives him an advantage and makes him believe hes one of the best cod players ever!! sooo funny some people!!!

    • common sense

      It’s amazing his response. A bunch of BS. Global dedicated servers? TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA. It must be 1 server for the entire planet hahahah. The same as EVERY OTHER COD??? AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH CONDREY WHAT ARE YOU SMOKIN? His entire response would be better if I interviewed him, or someone who actually understands wtf they are talking about interviews him. What happened to those REGIONAL dedicated servers you were talking about Condrey? huuuhhh? How many are in place, when are they used. How many games are RAN STRICTLY from a dedicated server, meaning no player host AT ALL. That’ll shut him up real quick. His entire response is a freaking farce, and he should be fired.

    • condorado

      how is this the most voted comment???

  • jrnotaloka

    Fuck this shit

  • HOSTRUINCOD

    Dedicated servers ??????????? Why is he still saying that…

    • It’s called he’s lieing

      • Felipe Rios

        I’ve had ONE host migration since launch…

    • RdJokr

      Because there are dedicated servers.

  • ShankSquadIII

    I’ve overall have had a good experience on AW just a couple laggy matches since launch

    • ShankSquadIII

      It just gets annoying when I can’t play with my friends because of the skill difference (Master Prestige)

      • Felipe Rios

        Does the game actually stop you from playing with them? Or is it just not fair for everyone?

        • ww

          I cant really play with my friends because “im too good” and in turn theyre getting stomped on while im the only one going positive. But there are reports of people not being able to play with friends due to skill (as in not being able to join each other)

        • For me, I was litteraly unable to get into a server, it would take forever, find one lobby, then kick me out and repeat. Once I took my friend ( who is a plain, unprestiged rank 29. ) out of split screening, I could find a match instantly.

          • Felipe Rios

            Interesting. Sometimes I have that same issue by myself. I get into a lobby, then the background goes black, everything freezes and it backs out. Sometimes though it works first try.

        • ShankSquadIII

          It says the “Skill difference is too big”

          • tarfeef101

            I hate that message. So much.

    • Kobrah

      The only issue I have is the insane amount of parties I’m matched against :/

  • LongSensation

    It still needs removing. First of all for the connection, I see no problem and have not had problems with lag since the first major patch and if I do have connection issues I know it’s down to my own internet connection (streaming whilst playing for example).

    The reason why I and many others hate SBMM is because it makes the game unbearable to play. One of the biggest factors as to what made Call of Duty so popular and such a good franchise is that fact that you CAN ‘pubstomp’ and get your killstreaks and have that one off game where you pull off a MOAB for example. The diversity of the players skill in a lobby just makes the game fun and we always look forward to that ‘God lobby’.

    • LongSensation

      Also just to quickly add I’ve been reverse boosting now for around 6 weeks and even facing a FULL lobby of players with no thumbs and getting 10 DNA bombs a day is also making the game not fun to play. Like I said, it’s the diversity of the players skill that makes the game fun for me. On the plus side I have around 400GB of gameplay saved and I’ll just use them until either SBMM is removed or until the next CoD title.

      • HenryDF

        “Also just to quickly add I’ve been reverse boosting now for around 6 weeks and even facing a FULL lobby of players with no thumbs and getting 10 DNA bombs a day is also making the game not fun to play.”

        Why would you expect that to be fun? Facing a challenge is fun, not spending 6 weeks ploughing through noobs with no skill.

        It’s your fault for manipulating the situation to not give you a diversity of players – normal matchmaking puts me with people similar to my skill, but there are always people better and worse than me.

        Only difference for me is that there’s not the 60-4 prestige master and the 2-20 noob sitting at the opposite ends of the leaderboard, which I find is a good thing. There is diversity though. I’m still getting games where I die 5 times in a row, and games where I get 20+ killstreaks. I’m not sure what else you’d call that.

        • Guest

          communist^^^

          • HenryDF

            Nah mate, facism FTW.

          • guest

            there is literally no incentive to play cod with sbmm

          • HenryDF

            Meh. I get it can give other people issues, but it’s presented me with none – if anything it’s been an improvement on previous titles. Plus I enjoy it. So, there’s my incentive.

          • guest

            people like you are why we cant have nice things. πŸ™

          • HenryDF

            Because I enjoy something you don’t?

          • guest

            how long you been playing this game buddy

            might seem random but yea

          • guest

            this letter or what ever is the biggest kick in the balls to cod veterans that devs have ever done and thats saying something

        • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

          Completely focusing on a game for long periods of time is NOT fun. Dying 10 times a game is not fun.

        • Chris Rash

          It’s not a challenge if you have no chance.

      • Keshav Bhat

        I guess you’ll be banned soon.

      • Kill Denied

        I guess playing with people on the same skill level is too hard for you.

        • Chris Rash

          That’s not what people are bitching about. It the damn lag it brings. Pay attention.

          • Kill Denied

            He was reverse boosting because playing with people on the same level as him is too hard. Pay attention.

      • Scoops

        Guess your a terrible player then if you do that, if I see you doing it you’ll be getting reported and hopefully banned. Loser.

    • jordanxbrookes

      Exactly my good friend. I know people complained about “randies”, but playing against random people in the same country as you worked. Also, the main thing that made Call of Duty popular, CASUAL. It was a simple casual game that you could pick-up, get some kills and earn killstreaks rewards. It was something for everyone to take a break and unleash that inner soldier in all of us. Call of Duty has been losing it’s popularity ever since MLG collaborated with Activision and the devs.

      • HenryDF

        Part of me misses the randomness. Like, I rarely have those moments when I’m impressed by that guy getting two or three nukes and destroying the opposition, nor do I have those moments of anger when my team loses because of the level 5 at the bottom of the leader board who’s gone 2-20.

        But, I’d rather not have the elements of randomness and have a fair game – a game that isn’t ruined by noobs losing the game for me, and that doesn’t involve my team getting obliterated by a Prestige Master.

        I gain more satisfaction beating a team of similar skill to me. It’s challenging, but it’s rarely a whitewash. I play so many close games, and while that can be good and bad, it just offers a more consistent experience – one that isn’t ruined by occasional trips into the world of randomness.

      • Keshav Bhat

        Actually, MLG has no say in SBMM being in the game. Do you read twitter and see all the pros hating on SBMM? I hope you do. Because constantly whining that everything is MLG’s fault is so childish and dumb. Yeah, some parts of the game change cause of MLG, but not everything. But to blame SBMM on MLG is ridiculous.

        • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

          MLG is not directly responsible, but Sledgehammer being so focused on it makes them to blame, too.

          • ww

            i dont think thats why theyre doing it honestly. Theyre doing so that the noobs enjoy it and thus buy DLC and future iterations. The sad truth is that noobs outnumber the good players. Sledgehammer is a business after all, theyre trying to maximize their profits.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Noobs have Combat Readiness.

          • ww

            exactly. but thats not my point. my point is that its not ‘MLG’ thats at fault. Its SHG trying to gain the most money possible, so they cater to noobs (the biggest crowd for this game).

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            On the contrary, I think it’s the “fact” (can’t call it fact, because, hehehe NO EVIDENCE :[) that they are far too involved and focused with MLG. He has followed multiple MLG personalities on Twitter, notably Puckett, Fwiz, and Nadeshot. Plus, SH has been to multiple tournaments taking notes.

          • Scoops

            If you’re a good player, can’t you handle yourself against people of your skill?

          • ww

            yes, why are you asking me this? My post is about why SHG has this system for noobs (arguing against MLG being the fault), not sure why you’re telling me this.

          • tarfeef101

            We can, but we are tired of the lag because we have to play people across the globe to find others in our skill bracket. We’re tired of having to play each game like it’s MLG. We are tired of making gaming a task and not fun.

          • Scoops

            I don’t get it though, every cod has lag. AW has had a load of lag since launch admittedly but since the very latest patch, lag has been very minimal (and I have a terrible connection)! Only on team deathmatch are the pings terrible for some reason, no worse than any other cods.

          • tarfeef101

            First, that was the more minor of my points. And second, I have 45 down, 15 up, and 8 ping connected to my modem and I lag constantly because I keep playing host to foreign lobbies. Due to SBMM matching me with them instead of people in Canada and the US. But more importantly, see the second part of my first post.

        • ShankSquadIII

          Thank you for shutting down the people consistently complaining about SBMM

          • Keshav Bhat

            You’re welcome. All these folks who hate SBMM should probably just play a different game if SBMM affects their lives that badly.

          • MrGladiator20

            That’s why I stopped playing cod. All they do is make it so you have to try. If you want to actually have fun you need to reverse boost so you can just chill with noobs. In blackops 2 half the time I used the worst gun or something like the executioner and I would go positive or a little negative and that was fun. I try to use a bad gun and I go 3-49 every time. It’s like there is no point in even trying to have fun. Also to your previous comment percent doesn’t matter. Just because esports went up 99% doesn’t mean much. What are there now officially 1500 players for esports so there was around 1000 previously? So a 500 player growth. Casual had around 1 million. If it went up 1% then it went up 10000. As you see, percents don’t mean anything. The reason casual is not increasing as much as it used to is the developers are now more in for the money rather than the community. You don’t see a community manager for cod anymore addressing problems in the game. Contact activision support they say they look into your request but have yet to look at lag issues. My connection is 1 bar almost every game and I have a high speed connection. In a game like Blackops 2 I would almost always have 3 or 4 bar without host. The servers are regional?! (Kevin Spacey’s) “Give me a break”. I would admit it’s one of the better cods if you look at it but the way the devs and support team responds to the community is outrageous. In my overall opinion, cod is no longer an enjoyable game, hence why I dont play it.

            Don’t hate on me for just saying all of this and claiming that I hate cod. I sometimes go back to it and also check the forums to see what’s happening with cod

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Telling me to play a different game that I paid for, even though I can’t receive a refund, is, to put it bluntly, nothing but an unfair (and generic) excuse.

          • Chris Rash

            You are paid by Activision so you have no credibility whatsoever on here. Your “opinions” are bought.

        • jordanxbrookes

          This and Black Ops 2 were pretty much made for competitive. And yes I’ve seen the pros complain about SBMM. Where did I say “I blame MLG for SBMM in AW”? I said “Call of Duty has been losing it’s popularity ever since MLG collaborated with Activision and the devs.” which is true because sales and popularity have been going downhill since MW3. Sure Black Ops 2 was and still is popular, but it wasn’t as popular as MW3 was. I blame MLG for part of the downfall of Call of Duty. Catering a game for less than 5% of the community is the stupidest thing a dev/publisher would do. I really hope Treyarch make Call of Duty 2015 like Black Ops or World At War, with maybe a few things from Black Ops 2. I just want them to focus on the majority and focus on “fun” not “skill”.

          • Keshav Bhat

            it amazes me how many people fail to realize this industry. If I was an Activision executive, and I sit down and see the numbers over the last few years, I’m sure they would see the following:

            Growth over last 5 years:
            CODeSports: 95% growth
            Causual: 1% growth.

            When I see those numbers, who would I cater too? A community that’s already been declining or a community that’s seeing incredible and unprecedented growth? Obviously you work with the growth. That’s why CoD Champs came about; that’s why Activision sponsors all these eSports events. You put the money and effort where growth is, not to the casual community who keeps hating on the growth. They’ll leave you behind real quick; profits are flowing from eSports side and there’s no sign and slowing down from eSports.

          • jordanxbrookes

            Who buys CoD more? Casuals and Public guys like myself. The only reason CODeSports is growing is because Call of Duty games are catering to them. I’d never even heard of MLG until the first COD Champs back 2011. We the casuals and Public players made Call of Duty what it is today, not eSports. And you are right, Activision being the greedy scumbags they are would cater to eSports because of growth potential and money. It’s a massive kick in the nuts to the fanbase that made Activision all of that money. The more Activision and the devs cater to eSports, the more numbers will drop because players will just give up on this franchise and they’ll go play other fun FPS games like Battlefield, Titanfall, Halo, CS:GO or even the older Call of Duty games because they were fun and friendly to the majority.

          • Keshav Bhat

            Why do you call Activision greedy scumbags? Can you please point me in a direction where any company in this entire world does not revolve around money? Everything’s about money. Activision, as with any other company, goes where money and growth is. Compare it too any other company out there, for example: Apple. Apple goes where they money is. iPod’s are dead, so they left those behind.

            Same way for Activision: casual gamers are slowly declining across the board, and more competitive action is taking over. Casual gamers who don’t like eSports are gonna be left behind, and companies won’t care. You go where growth is. I’ve been around CoD community since COD 4. I heard about eSports with Black Ops 2 myself as well, and I knew immediately this is the future. I didn’t sit there and act as if casuals like myself should be priority. I saw potential in how the game could be, so I realized then and there eSports is the future, whether the haters want to believe the facts or not.

            Plus, if you want a recent Call of Duty game that doesn’t cater to eSports, go enjoy Ghosts! Infinity Ward catered to casuals for the entire Call of Duty: Ghosts. There was no ranked playlists, there was no eSports functions till after launch. Once MLG asked them nicely for ANYTHING, because let’s be honest, Ghosts had zero eSports features at launch, IW put out a shitty broadcaster mode at launch. Ghosts was for the casual gamers and it sucked so bad. Advanced Warfare caters to both communities, but the reason why it’s messed up is because they tried to merge the two together. If they hadn’t done that, no one would be complaining. SHGames tried to merge two communities when casual still hates eSports. eSports understands that casuals are priorities, but casual gamers straight up hate eSports for some odd reasons. Makes no sense to me, but I never try to understand haters logic nowadays.

          • HenryDF

            When it’s the same person over and over again, there is no logic to understand. It’s just ranting for the sake of ranting.

          • Keshav Bhat

            Agreed.

          • jordanxbrookes

            At the end of the day, Call of Duty is dying in terms of sales and players compared to previous CoD games. I would love to look at the number of players playing online, but wait, you can’t because ATVI knew AW wasn’t going to do well, and decided to take the numbers out so that way they wouldn’t feel embarrassed. If ATVI want to cater to the 2% of the community instead of the 98%, it’s their loss. We’ll just go play other FPS games or older Call of Duty games instead. Oh and every big company is full of greedy scumbags, Activision is just one of them. And whilst Ghosts is casual, IW catered that game to camping noobs. Plus that game is just too boring to play. I’ve been playing Black Ops. Now THAT is a casually fun Call of Duty game.

          • Keshav Bhat

            Then go play Black Ops and please stop attacking the developers. You look so dumb attacking them all the time. It’s immature and you lose all credibility you’ve ever had.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            We don’t even have any credibility. I don’t attack developers, but catering to a small minority almost completely and ignoring the majority is something that I don’t respect. Hopefully Sledgehammer wakes up.

          • Chris Rash

            & doing the same to the CoD fans on a this website gives you credibility or deep throating the devs in articles does?

          • mark brookes

            immature and credibility lol get that tongue in there kesnav!!!… ghost and aw could have been good games! messi n ronaldo r too good at football so to balance it out they should chop a foot of each player maybe remove an hand of lewis hamilton.. lol its not fair ussain bolt is too fast..hahahaha

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            So adding microtransactions to a full AAA title or adding a Season Pass that barely costed them anything and should have always been on-disc is not money-grabbing? There’s a reason why Activision is so hated. They have killed/ruined multiple beloved franchises (including Guitar Hero, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon), they have underpaid their developers in the past (old Infinity Ward), and worst of all, they false-advertise (“CoD has a brand new engine!” “Dedicated servers!”).

            Money-grabbing means greed. The definition of greed = “An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth:” Activision doesn’t need nor deserve the money, they are just tacking it on to get more money. It’s fact that Activision like cash-grabs. I know I can’t do anything about it and therefore complaining is pretty much worthless, but facts are facts (what’s funny is, is that AW has potential).

          • Chris Rash

            Naughty Dog. Next?

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            The casuals are what made Activision $1 billion per year, not e-Sports. That “95%” is far from a “fact”, especially since it’s factual that e-Sports is a very small minority in comparison to the casual consumer. Apparently catering to MLG failed, thanks to AW selling merely 5.8 million copies.

            And Activision profits from e-Sports? I guess that’s why they host million dollar tournaments. I don’t see how they profit from it, especially since it’s a very tiny minority.

          • Chris Rash

            Microsoft pays for the 1 million not activision.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            You know this for sure? I was pretty sure Activision hosted the event, although it DOES say “hosted by Xbox” or something.

          • Chris Rash

            Something you fail to realize is that the 95% e-sport growth is from the casual community. Why CoD hasn’t seen an increase in sales since MW3.

          • HenryDF

            ” I blame MLG for part of the downfall of Call of Duty.”

            *sigh*

          • jordanxbrookes

            The more MLG has been involved, the more numbers have been dropping. There is a clear correlation here.

          • HenryDF

            The move to next gen, the addition of jump boost, the introduction of a new developer, Activision having to deal with two blockbuster games, the poor reception for Ghosts, the amount of other games coming out last fall, the fact that there are games like Titanfall and Halo and Destiny instead…all possible reasons for numbers dropping.

            It’s like how you have goes at SBMM because you want something to blame your struggle on, you have goes at MLG because you want something to blame the numbers on.

            I don’t necessarily agree with some of the influence eSports is having on the game. But nor do I think you can blame a drop in numbers on consumers having a problem with the game because of the impact of MLG.

          • jordanxbrookes

            “I blame MLG for part of the downfall of Call of Duty.”

            I said “PART”, never said it’s the full cause for the downfall.

          • HenryDF

            No, but you said there was a correlation, which is kinda ridiculous. There are so many factors that could cause a drop in numbers, so many, and MLG is one of the least likely to make an impact.

            MLG exposes CoD to a wider audience. A boost in numbers, surely? MLG makes CoD – and other games – more than just something that you sit in your living room and play. Millions of people watch those event streams, so surely a boost in numbers?

            Then you can approach the impact MLG has had on the games themselves. Like I’ve said, I’m not a huge fan of people like Nadeshot having an input, but realistically, what makes the content Advanced Warfare more pro-focused than Ghosts, or BO2, or MW3?

            There’s no point in bringing up SBMM with me because I’ve had a flawless experience in that area, so where else? The content? If the content was going to be MLG orientated, we wouldn’t have the cloak, we wouldn’t have the stim, we wouldn’t have support modules, we wouldn’t have laser weapons – we’d ultimately be playing eSports rules. But we’re not.

            Just look at it realistically – how many consumers are going to go “Ew, CoD is associated with MLG, I’m not going to buy that game”? None, other than people like you who spend all their time passionately ranting about it on here because you have nothing better to do (other than make shitty videos).

            Before launch, I had nothing that made me concerned about the impact eSports had had on AW, and post-launch, I’m really not that concerned either; Ranked is somewhat atrocious, the One Shot playlist was meh, but there is nothing that MLG has done that has damaged my core experience of the game – and there was nothing pre-launch that made me think “I don’t like that, that’s MLG’s fault, I’m not going to buy that game”.

            It’s just a ridiculous, unrealistic approach to take.

          • SlyCooper5555 .

            Very well said argument if I do say so myself.

          • jordanxbrookes

            It is a correlation, whether you like it or not. Just like how sales and numbers were down for Ghosts because lots of people were transitioning consoles. That’s A correlation. And again, you seem to think that I blame everything on MLG. MLG is PART, note, PART of the cause. I remember when GBs were something on the side, now you just have to go in AW Public lobbies and you’re competing in one. SBMM only works for noobs, PERIOD. Just like how deathstreaks were for noobs. Now that deathstreaks are gone, we have another noob-friendly factor in the game. Right now, I blame either SHG or ATVI for keeping SBMM in the game. And here’s me hoping that the competitive players complaining about SBMM would result in it getting removed. FFS. Like I’ve said before, I’m just gonna play the older CoD games until Treyarch’s title this year.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            “The move to next gen?” You know that was an excuse because people weren’t that interested in Ghosts, right? It may be a downright conspiracy, or it could be fact.

            Look at Halo. I consider Halo to be a casual-based game, especially in the first couple of games in the franchise. Then MLG was created, and Halo lost sales. Call of Duty is now suffering the same fate. The developers have turned a casual-based game into a hardcore game like Counter-Strike.

          • HenryDF

            “You know that was an excuse?”

            Ugh don’t talk too me about excuses. Read any of the comments on here. Excuses.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Justifying SBMM and telling me to “play a different game” is an excuse. Wanting SBMM out with logical reason is not an excuse. We want a better product because we are fans of the franchise and don’t want to see the quality drop significantly (even though it already did).

            An excuse means to seek justification or to lessen the blame on something. Moving to next gen did fuck-all, but Activision decided to damage control, anyway.

          • Chris Rash

            2 of those game you mentioned were flops & console transition is strait BS. Only as fool would believe that.

          • Smartz

            Correlation does not determine causation. People stopped playing COD because it is getting worse each year, not because of MLG.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            He has a point. How does it not? It indirectly caused SBMM. MLG has every right to be blamed.

          • HenryDF

            SBMM will not have affected the sales figures of AW. I see no downfall.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            5.8 million sales in comparison to over 20 million since MW2 up until Ghosts is a downfall. SBMM didn’t, but moving a casual game to a hardcore game more than likely did. Call it a conspiracy. It’s not factual, so I’m not going to lie to you and tell you that it is.

            IMO, it’s because Advanced Warfare is futuristic.

          • Chris Rash

            Then explain the decline in sales since E-sports took over CoD?

          • mark brookes

            campers and sbmm killed ghost

        • Chris Rash

          1 isn’t many.

      • justsomebody

        iirc, Nadeshot tweeted about how he hated SBMM in pubs

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        This. CoD is a casual game, not a competitive one. That’s why I have so much trouble understanding Condrey’s logic. He’s far too blinded by MLG to the point where his game suffered.

  • God, all he’s doing is lieing. Connection never takes priority. I’ve just played now for 2hrs and all I did was lag. I never experience this in other games or ghosts, so it’s not my internet it’s the games SBMM!

    • You say connection never takes priority. But the reality is you don’t have a clue about how matchmaking has been coded, and neither do I. I don’t lag on AW but I do regularly on Ghosts and BO2. So your problem isn’t universal. The matchmaking code is highly complex and far beyond what the majority of people on here could understand, so to say Condrey is lying is ridiculous. He has far more knowledge of what’s really going on than any of us.

    • RdJokr

      It’s more likely that when you fail to find the best connection-based match, the system switches over to skill-based, and you get put in whatever lobby that fits your skill level.

  • Beast_Beast_Beast

    Can’t understand how he keeps saying that SBMM improves the enjoyment of players… Increased lag for 1. My big thing is the progression shown by players. When you’re a n00b, you should be getting smashed. When you get good, you should be beasting so you can see some improvement in your game. With SBMM, your KD is the same no matter how good you are, as you’re always playing against players of the same standard. Ridiculous that he keeps saying it prioritises connection over skill, has he played the game!

    • Rav

      no…if youre good enough you usually still always get first place, like in free for all. I mean they pair you with harder players but like not exactly the same skill level that you are. ive met some EXTREMELY bad players like in most of my lobbies.

      and acctually when you ppl complain about SSBM, it seems like most players oppose it.
      but acctually the people who come onto this site, and acctually go type their opinions are pro players, or people who play a lot
      if you make a new account and join your first few lobbies im 100% sure most of them will like SSBM
      of course the better players would not really like SSBM, as it makes their skill seem worse than it acctually is, and they go on here to complain
      but the fact is that most call of duty players arent hardcore or that skillful, but they just dont get represented on this website because i doubt they would spend that much time on websites for call of duty

      this is comparable to america before, where the rich try to get richer at the expense of the poor. and because the rich have more power and voice, they usually get what they want.

      if you had taken a vote out of EVERYONE who played call of duty, good or bad players, i think that most would in fact be grateful of SSBM, because the “poor” class is greater in numbers than the “rich”

      so please, chill XD

      • Scoops

        So many players crying about SBMM, it’s great you get put with players on your level. Now they’re crying they can’t stomp every game, ridiculous. Plus the thing about the lag, there’s is in every cod, since the last update I hardly notice any except on TD.

        • ccrows

          Waaaaay to generalize there numnuts, a lot of us are pissed about the “Global” MM…

        • mark brookes

          obviously ur a rubbish player and sbmm is making u enjoy the game

      • mark brookes

        if so how come i play world at war and no one takes a full clip and lives yet its the same sbmm lmfao

    • ccrows

      I can’t believe that Condrey thought that he could sneak SBMM by without anyone noticing.

      Honestly I truly believe he would get rid of SBMM if he could, but is too worried/stupid on how to do so without breaking something else in the game.

      ^ It wouldn’t surprise me if he just copied and pasted what BO2 used at launch, and has no clue on how to take it out…

    • TehShadewRaeper

      Played a game last night where everybody was on a one bar except two people who had two bars.

    • mark brookes

      yeah full clip into the enemies back then they turn and hit you with one bullet and your dead.. that’s fair?

  • Aaron V

    Okay, can someone please explain to me what exactly is the problem with this SBMM? Why have i seen everyone rage about it since the game came out? What’s the problem?

    Is it because players have a horrible K/D compared to other CoDs? (SBMM isn’t the reason for that. This game is fast paced and it’s not as easy to keep a high K/D).

    Is it because players are getting out gunned all the time when they think they shouldn’t be? (Aim-Assist is the strongest it’s ever been in AW than any other CoD game made)

    If it’s neither of these, what’s the issue with SBMM? In my opinion, it’s actually hard to tell who is actually good in AW because of the strong Aim-Assist. Any casual player can seem amazing because they are mostly likely on a low-sens and they can shoot like a pro with the stronger aim-assist that’s in this game. I feel like people actually think they’re going against significantly better players when they actually aren’t… Which is causing everyone to think SBMM is an issue.

    I’ve been playing CoD every year regularly for the past 6-7 years and this is my opinion.

    • guest

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEyYyQA09s8

      here watch this it will explain to you a lot if your willing to watch it all….

      oh ps fuck SBMM

    • Daniel

      I get matched with people from other countries and that makes me lag

      • Aaron V

        So skill isn’t the problem in your opinion?

    • HenryDF

      No fucking clue, everything feels the same to me.

      • Aaron V

        It does, only things I’ve noticed are the 2 questions i asked.

        • HenryDF

          My K/D has been mostly the same. I haven’t noticed anything worse, and if anything I’m doing better. Some people lag though, some people just don’t play AW as good as they do other CoDs because of the movement and stuff, so I guess it;s easy to blame SBMM.

          • Aaron V

            I didn’t really clarify on the whole K/D thing, but basically im talking about anyone that usually had a 2.00+K/D in most CoDs. I know of about 15 players on my friends list that usually did, and for this game they don’t, like myself.

            But yeah, it is easy to blame SBMM in AW for numerous reasons. I just don’t believe it has anything to do with Skill.

          • Felipe Rios

            My K/D did drop, 1.55 to 1.35 but I love the challenge of trying to actually raise it. It’s hard because of SBMM but I enjoy it. I get lag from time to time, however a lot of it is probably on my end. Haven’t seen much a difference otherwise.

  • Daniel

    I only get matched with people from another country

  • Guest

    Fuck SBMM, and you know what Fuck Cod.

  • If they would have put a player count from the beginning, players would blame small player pools rather than SBMM.

  • Unreal

    i can assure you that there are not fringe cases of matchmaking me in other countrys lobbies I track that with my netduma r1 and it shows that I rarely get any lobbies in my country …

  • ritdude

    ‘If you disagree or need to rant, please hit up to Glen Schofield. ‘ I think I laughed to hard on that! Honestly, I have been getting into more random lobbies! Especially after I prestige. I haven’t had an issue with SBMM and I still don’t. Sure I do prefer a variety of players but lets be honest not everyone tryhards all the time (at least in my case). I’ve dropped 20 bombs but I’ve also been killed 10 times in a row. SBMM is there… at times

  • Juses

    Only took them two months.

    • guest

      and yet it still doesnt seem worth it does it

  • Muszic

    Did you see that fuckers? “Connection always takes priority over skill” so stfu and move along you whiny bitches.

    • jordanxbrookes

      Did you see that? He pulled the wool over your eyes and you fell for it. Smh.

      • Guywithbrains

        I rather believe expert who is behind this game than some angry fan who isn’t anymore capable of using noob tactics to crush their enemies.

        • jordanxbrookes

          So you’re going to believe Tina and Rubin for what they said about Ghosts because they are the “expert who is behind this game” too?

      • Muszic

        of course this is the kid to say something. gtfo pubstar.

        • jordanxbrookes

          Open your eyes idiot. ATVI PR is telling him to say that. How stupid can one be? Smh.

          • Muszic

            All of a sudden you know how things work in the Game Industry lol. Just staahhp.

          • jordanxbrookes

            I’m on a Games Development course, so yes, I do have knowledge of the Games Industry. We even have an Industry Week where developers and game journalists come in and lecture us about their role in the industry etc.

          • Muszic

            Game Development course is waayyy different than the business side of things. Stop trying to act like you know how activision runs shit. You obviously dont.

  • jordanxbrookes

    The only way SBMM and high connection quality could ever work together is by using dedicated servers. Where are they?

    • HenryDF

      That puzzled me. My best guess is that they’re doing what they claimed to do with Ghosts, and running a bit of both. Though I haven’t had one host migration or host error in Advanced Warfare, so I’m not seeing any of the flaws I noticed with player hosts in previous titles – nor have I had any lag until I’ve played Ranked. That doesn’t mean dedis are there, but it means something’s going right somewhere.

      • jordanxbrookes

        There are no dedicated servers my friend, and even if there are, it’s only probably about 2. Just like Ghosts, we got lied too about DS. I’ve experienced numerous host migrations since launch.

        • HenryDF

          For me, just generally, SBMM and all, AW has given me far better connections than in previous titles. No lag, no host migrations, no host errors, no long waits for games.

          I get that this isn’t the case universally, but something must have changed between now and Ghosts somewhere. I was still getting lag months into Ghosts’ life, I was still getting host migrations, and often I’d sit there and just not get a game. I dunno what it is.

          • jordanxbrookes

            I’ve been shot around corners more times than I don’t know what. This game is literally Black Ops 2.5 to me. LAG! LAG! AND MORE F*CKING LAG! I’ve literally never been so disappointed with a CoD game, and Ghosts was extremely disappointing.

          • Psychomaggot105

            You just described my experience with the game yesterday. Aw is on the bottom of my cod list.

          • jordanxbrookes

            I’m not even classing AW as a CoD game, it’s that bad.

        • spartanelite

          I’ve expired 3 so little I can count them

    • Keshav Bhat

      They are there. It’s same as Ghosts – hybrid server system.

  • Juses

    Did he really just say matchmaking is the same as it was in previous cods? Does Micheal Condrey think cod fans are retarded?

    • jordanxbrookes

      Michael CONdrey.

    • jrnotaloka

      I’m starting to think that way

    • You know, I havent been one of the main people complaining about SBMM, but that statement is rediculous. I cant remember how Ghosts was, but Black Ops 2 was certainly NOT the same.

    • Melchor

      He does, and that’s the problem with AW.

    • I play Call of Duty a lot, but even I can say that a lot of COD fans are not that bright–and that’s me being nice.

  • jahladagaming

    I wonder if he is constantly thrown into losing games with no chance of coming back.

    I wonder if he is often disconnected when he’s doing well and about to win.

    I wonder if his character model in the pre-game lobby actually matches the character he made (mine often is completely different, not important, just weird and broken)

    I wonder if he actually understands that the community wants skill based matchmaking restricted to ranked play/clan wars or whatever they call it now and keep public lobbies to very local connection only. The Netduma router is gaining popularity to restrict it ourselves, take note.

  • Psychomaggot105

    I thank him for making a statement but he’s not pulling the wool over my eyes. I played a few matches yesterday and it’s just full of lag. “Identical” I highly doubt that. Please zombies team make that mode enjoyable!! Your are only hope!

  • Stefan Lang

    Okay if they wanna be fair, stop putting solo players, such as myself, up against full parties. If I do end up winning its very rare and I have to lose 10 games before I can win and actually get good team mates. Earlier I joined a game of Momentum as soon as I picked a class, the game ended and I received a loss. They should go back to where if the game was going to end, you wouldn’t be able to connect. As I said once before, they have combat training for new players to go and get skilled at the game. The way I got better is by getting shit on in MW2. It’ll be nice if the lobbies were mixed with different skills but if you’re good you’re facing fucking MLG pros all around.

  • Brad

    This is mind boggling. He is in denial! Vonderhaar removed SBMM a few weeks after release, and black ops 2 had 400-700k players on each console playing at any given time.

  • Guywithbrains

    “Connection to the host always takes priority over skill in the matchmaking process.”

    This is good to hear. Although I never believed otherwise.

    “We believe that it adds a level of fairness in the mechanism for team balance and individual enjoyment.”

    This system has definitely shown it to me. The most balanced experience when it comes to making teams.

  • Tim Vikouski

    this guy like a dose of the clap ,what a frigging moron he dont care about the players ,so why dont he put in a patch so we can play the game with the most people playing instead of what crap we have now i would like to see the players pools numbers or is he scared to show us that their is less people playing this game then ghost last year ,gay boy

    • Guywithbrains

      He does care about the players. Actually I am one of those players who feel they are listened. I asked to have fair matchmaking and not full enemy parties spawn trapping and calling themselves skilled.

      Now they must play against same skill level as them. Now it is more difficult to praise your skill by uploading gameplay videos against noob players.

  • Tim Vikouski

    well if you want to get past the lag you are going to have to buy the netduma router from the uk so you can play with only good host at a cost of 200 dollars

  • Hi

    The community’s opinion > His opinion

    He needs to remove SBMM….

    • Rav

      by community, you mean all of you hardcore players who like destroying the greater number of noobs? who dont come here and voice their opinion?

      • Guest

        Fucking thank you. These douche bags think they’re entitled to smashing bad kids. They dont care about those type of players.

        • Scoops

          I completely agree! Now there against players of their same skill (which sounds low to me), they can’t stomp on noobs. If you see anyone reverse boosting (cheating), report them.

          • LegitBedsheets

            I don’t like SBMM because everyone I play with is a clone of each other. There is little player and gun variety when I play, making the experience less enjoyable . Having SBMM in pubs also makes Ranked playlists irrelevant.

          • Colin MacKenzie

            It doesn’t make it that irrelevant. Ranked Play still uses competitive playlists, and still uses rules to ban cheap streaks and other items. Truth be told, I don’t play pubs that often because AW wasn’t designed for 6v6 as much as it was for 4v4. Ranked Play (despite what it’s missing from BO2 League Play) feels much better than public matches. Less lag, more map space and less BS attachments and devices.

        • Stefan Lang

          Well did the vets care about us when we all were rookies? Fuck no. I had to grind out MW2 to get good at the game. Nobody is going to take it easy on new players if they’ve been playing year after year. They need to go through the same shit we did.

        • tarfeef101

          We get tired of paying like its MLG every game. We get tired of avoidable lag. And we get annoyed when we got stomped when we started but everyone new is getting a free ride at our expense.

      • StaticShockFather

        No! The community wants skill based matchmaking gone mostly because they are being matched in different countries. Don’t listen to condrey when he says it happens in “fringe cases”, it actually happens quite often.

      • mark brookes

        been playing online cods since waw, ghost and aw have stopped me from buying dlc (i av dlc for all cods before ghost and am an elite founder) aw will be the last cod i buy! good players with fibre broadband are in the minority so who cares.. i play aw every night for 3 games on kill confirmed and dashboard everyone of them! virgin 152mb download with 12 meg upload pfft to sbmm

    • Keshav Bhat

      This isn’t his opinion; his statement is presenting the facts.

      • common sense

        WHAT FACTS? ARE YOU SERIOUS RIGHT NOW? HE HAS NO FACTS. HE HAS PRESENTED AN OPINION. Keshav my gawd. You are CONdrey’s number 1 fan I swear man. Can you tell me if he has GLOBAL OR REGIONAL SERVERS? WHICH IS IT? ONE WEEK ITS REGIONAL THE NEXT ITS GLOBAL. I’m typing in capital so you freaking see this and process what I’m saying. HOW MANY PLAYERS HAVE USED DEDICATED SERVERS STRICTLY? NO PLAYER HOST AT ALL? WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF CONNECTION TO SKILL IN HOSTING? WHERE ARE THE FACTS HUUUUUHHH?

        • Keshav Bhat

          Use your common sense. Who should I believe? A crying hater who hates because things aren’t going their way or the guy who made the game?

          Hm.

          • common sense

            Have we gotten a STRAIGHT answer from anything??? Have we? Who should I believe the facts?? Or a guy who’s purpose is to SELL THE GAME? I’m sure you think 30 fps is in place to make it feel more cinematic in certain other games too right?? LMAO. You are such an idiot Keshav. It’s disgusting.

            btw I hate, because we were LIED to again! I’m sure you believed the clown when he said f#$% you last stand.

    • WasabeJuice

      You mean community of whiners and losers?

      • ccrows

        You mean the community that wants better matchmaking because of the lag?…

      • Chris Rash

        Says the guy crying & whining.

  • guest

    how bout since michael condrey is sooooo confident that only a small amount of players dont like sbmm he does a poll. if more no sbmm get rid of it.

    and yes i am very confident that it would get removed

  • Sergeant

    JxB bitching again over SBMM -_-

    • jordanxbrookes

      u wan sum m8? ill giv it ya.

      • Sergeant

        What is your 18 year old fat ass going to do?

        • Juses

          Y er yew sew meen?

        • jordanxbrookes

          Obviously didn’t get the reference but whatever. I ain’t going anywhere so get used to my bitching.

          • I don’t wanna be that guy, but not everyone is going to get the reference because you forced a unfunny meme a couple of times.

          • jordanxbrookes

            But you just were “that guy”. I crie nuw :'(

          • tfw i hurt someone’s feelings

    • Sigh

      Fat boy Brooke’s is always bitching about sbmm and always crying over the old cods he’s like a little girl to be honest!

      • jordanxbrookes

        Call me whatever you want, doesn’t bother me.

        • Guywithbrains

          I don’t get it why you get so much personal hate because of your opinions.

          Also I have started to get a little bit of hate. Guest accounts talking with my username and claiming I like men. No, I like women just to make it clear to guests hiding behind anonymous accounts.

          • jordanxbrookes

            It’s only guest accounts, like I could care. The popular you get, the more haters you get. That’s just the way it goes.

        • Its probably one Lonley kid sitting on his computer who thinks they’re funny because they make fun of someone who is very valued in the community for posting, and then he’s making multiple guest posts agreeing with himself to make themselves look correct.

          • jordanxbrookes

            Most of the time, that is the case.

  • Ryumoau

    It took awhile but i’m glad Condrey has at least addressed this issue. i personally don’t care about the actual ‘skill matching’ part but the connection issues were what worried me.

  • peacamaker

    Too bad it connects you to other countries no matter what for most part which is a huge disadvantage cause of huge latency in ping. I have a router that let’s me stay in United States now and if you could see how many servers it tries to connect me in a other countries cause sbmm it’s unbelievable

  • Guywithbrains

    After reading a massive amount of messages about SBMM over the internet, here is what I have found out:

    – Group 1 wants to get rid of SBMM because of lag
    – Group 2 wants SBMM to stay because it makes the game fair for all
    – Both groups have in common that they want to get rid of lag

    Group 1 solution (SBMM goes) > lag MAY leave but game becomes unfair as in previous titles
    Group 2 solution (SBMM stays) > lag MAY stay but game is fair

    So seems like removing SBMM isn’t right solution. Why? Unfairness and lag are both game changers. So are there any other ways to make the game lag less?

    • Juses

      SBMM just caters to bad players imo. If have good stats you’ll play against sweaty kids, and if you have bad stats you’ll play against other bad people. The game is not fun for people with good stats and that’s the reason why so many people quit playing advanced warfare. Also, SBMM just leads to reverse boosting which is something Micheal Condrey does not like.

      • Guywithbrains

        I agree SBMM leads to reverse boosting and I have seen it.

        But previous Call of Duty games have always catered to wannabe pros (spawn traps in Terminal and Dome for example). I do think they should taste their own medicine and handle them their own asses. That’s how me and thousands of other “bad players” feel like. (1.1 K.D. because I rush objectives)

        • Juses

          You can spawn trap easily in AW too. You act like you only play against good players in previous cods but you don’t, you play against good and bad players in previous cods. Yet in Advanced warfare you only play people that’s the same skill level as you. And “bad players” won’t get any better if they only play against other bad players.

    • spartanelite

      No its because the SBMM basically makes a border the tryhard raging at other tryhards and the shit players sucking ass with other shit player’s so they obviously don’t care,so its basically the good side bitching about not being able to kill shit players

  • To be honest, I’ve noticed that I’ve been paired with much better people lately. It’s been almost as if there’s little to know SBMM. idk if it’s legit, but things seem to be getting better πŸ™‚

  • Lol, this is a perfect example.
    http://imgur.com/a/qt5bU

    (From reddit http://redd.it/2srqwt )

    • jooker-jr

      For my experience on the PS4 the game match me faster than any cod I played.

      • Xx_COLSEY_xX

        I play on PS3. But i have also played AW on XBOX ONE at my friends house. But if it wasn’t for SHG adding in exo movements, Then it would possibly be another year for call of duty to be ghosts 2.0. Thanks for SHG for bringing CoD back alive.

        • jooker-jr

          I liked the fact that they tried to change the gameplay unlike treyarch and IW (not saying that they are bad ) and thats their first game.

          • Xx_COLSEY_xX

            Same here. I just hate when people start complaing about AW. No game isn’t perfect but this game is definitely good although it’s SHG first CoD (Except MW3) People needs to start appreciating games because it take so much time and skill to create games like CoD. All respect to any game designers!!

  • Money Boy

    Why not make it like Halo Reach? You can choose for yourself if you focus only on connection and/or skill in Matchmaking. Everyone is Happy. Until People find something new to complain

    • Guest

      you know they pretty much already had that with ranked but you know what they say if it aint broke then… fix it?

    • ccrows

      You mean like what BO2 had after Treyarch removed SBMM?

      If you chose “Search by ‘BEST’ connection”. Then you were forcing matchmaking system to focus on Connection.

      If you took the default settings, then it matched you up with players of equal skill and there was a whole lot of 2-3 bars by doing that.

      Kinda funny that SH gives everyone 3-4 bars in this game, yet when the game gets extremely laggy at times THEY ARE STILL AT 3-4 BARS!

      ^ PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THAT HAPPENS CONDREY! I mean I know that you’re gonna lie about that too, but I would LOVE to hear your excuse!…

      • HenryDF

        “Bars”, the most accurate form of representing and measuring connection.

  • Baldmanz_RAGE

    Bullshit!!!!!

  • Charlie

    I don’t know if SBMM is the problem here, but there is no question that there is a problem. The matchmaking is off, the lag comp feels over the top at times, and this has been a very frustrating experience. I do enjoy this game, (1.8 KD) down from previous games but I’m fine with that. But the amount of losses I have is ridiculous. No matter what time or what gametype I play, I have the worst players on my team. I laughed at the balanced team part of his statement. No fucking way is that happening for me, ever. I get matched with players of my own skill, but also a lot of people worse than me, and it feels like it’s me and the bad kids in my lobby, versus a well balanced team with players on my skill level.

    I know for a fact I would be doing better and having more fun if the matchmaking was similar to how it was in every other game. I loved the randomness of lobbies, but now I just feel like Lose, lose, lose, lag, lag, lag, WIN!, lose, start of doing great and randomly get kicked, lose. No joke, that is my experience majority of the time. Every now and then I’ll get in lobbies where I feel like a God.

    If this was fixed, I’d honestly rank this up there with the best Cods, but I just can’t have fun and play for long when this happens to me constantly.

    • Charlie

      And that’s not to mention how often I get in lobbies where I feel like players turn corners already shooting at me with no time to react, only to watch the kill cam and see that I was on there screen for a good 2-3 seconds before they even fired. Yeah that’s awesome and surely doesn’t feel like a disadvantage. My internet is great also, so I just don’t get it.

  • jooker-jr

    Maybe because I’ve been playing a lot of AW but I’m starting to not notice SBMM at all, one match I’m the best, the other I’m littarly the worst.

    And connection is sometimes good, sometimes bad ( just like every cod I played )

    My K/D is 0.86 and before you say “you enjoy the game because you suck” my K/D is low in AW because I littarly said before picking up the game : I will not care about any of my data ( K/D , score per minute , etc… ) I’m gonna just play this game for fun ( I try bad combinations of weapons every time, some of them work, some of them didn’t ) and after 3 days and 14 hours of gameplay, I find that the game is fun and refreashing.
    EDIT : yes, I can take the game seriously and raise my K/D to like 1.5 or more but this will take the fun factor for me.

    So I like what SH did with AW and I hope them the best for 2015 and 2017.

    EDIT : does the game have flaws ? Absolutely, but what I’m trying to say is that SH tried to change the fourmla of COD and for their first game, I would say that this is a great game.

    • Juses

      Yup. That explains why you like SBMM. You only play against noobs because you’re kd is bad.

      • Guywithbrains

        But that is not the same as crushing noobs because you are not “overpowered” compared to your enemy.

        • Charlie

          That’s what made COD fun. Random. from Cod4-Mw2. You would get your ass kicked, dominate, play a really close and balanced match and repeat all day long, it’s fun that way. I started in Cod4 getting my ass kicked and now I’m a 2.0 plus player easily. this catering to noobs bullshit by adding lag comp, death streaks, SBMM of any kind, etc. is what’s wrong with the games now.

          • Freeze

            Agree, playing well on those games reall showed how good you are. I would do much better If i did not get unfairly outplayed by lag comp

      • jooker-jr

        I prefer playing agenst noobs than complaining.

        And you clearly didn’t read my comment very well.

      • jooker-jr

        And I didn’t say that I liked it or not, so don’t pull up words from your butt.

      • Felipe Rios

        I like SBMM and I do just fine. I absolutely go on tears on BO2 and MW2 daily but on AW that’s really challenging. I think its fun (although frustrating; like every other COD) Juses I thought you were accepting of others, you lied. D: lol

      • Xx_COLSEY_xX

        Dude, i’m fine with SBMM and my K.D is 1.82. I also play solo most of the time too

        • Chris Rash

          SBMM goes off of SPM not K/D.

    • Freeze

      It makes sense. When you just want to have fun, it is fun. When I just randomly use only the RW1 I go 30-4, but then sweating for a DNA bomb with the BAL-27 I go triple negative. This game has one trick: don’t try, and even if you do bad you still don’t get too pissed. I found this out when my blood sugar (I am diabetic) was super low, and I could barely see strait, so playing was difficult, I still did well and wasn’t frustrated because it was fun. People say try hard, but it should be try not.

  • Micheal CONdrey jr the 3rd

    RESPECT AND HONOR MY LOCATION MOFO.
    I LIVE IN TEXAS YET I PLAY WIT SOOOOO MANY PUERTO RICANS[xPRx] AND WE ALL KNO WHAT THAT MEANS. LAGGITY LAGGITY LAG MY BALLS OFF.
    OH SURE WERE ALL THA SAME SKILL DOESNT MATTER THO BEKUZ I CANT UNDERSTAND MY TEAMS CALLOUTS

  • Nullspace

    Forget the SBMM for a sec. You’re the largest FPS franchise in the world. Your publisher is one of the largest in the world. How can they not afford dedicated servers? SBMM wouldn’t be much of an issue if they weren’t so cheap.

  • Guywithbrains

    Any Infected players here? Are there some guns you would like to have in Infected? I am getting bored with that Bulldog.

    • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

      Same here.Especially when it s a weak shotgun.

  • StaticShockFather

    Does trickshotting count as reverse boosting?

    • GinsuVictim

      Those people die about as much, so yeah. They aren’t doing their team any favors.

  • Guywithbrains

    We don’t need World at War 2 this year we already made one here in Charlieintel comment section!

    *badum tss*

  • Michael condrey

    There is nothing wrong with sbmm, it shows. You that others with the same skill can beat your ass. This means you need to step your game up get better. Or get lost and live with it take it like a man and suck it up this is your skill. The lag is also bull because you can block pablo. And search home town people use the gamercards for once! Ugh…

    • Rav

      sir, i have absolutely no freaking clue what in the world you’re saying πŸ™‚

    • peacamaker

      And that’s why my comment was deleted truth hurts I have with the game but it sad I had to get a special router to play the game correctly where your connected at least your own country

    • peacamaker

      Fun*

  • Unscene deX

    This is actually the first call of duty since world at war that I dont play consistently and this is due to SBMM. I find no joy in lagging while sweating my balls off just to do well.

  • GinsuVictim

    I love how he talks about our connection to the host, then tries to talk about dedicated servers, plus acting like SBMM is what’s best for our experience. We know the truth. You’re going to run out of air talking out both sides of your mouth AND your ass.

  • Red Cabelero

    Condrey said on twitter, Jan 3 that both skill and connection take 1/2 of the priority. A few days later he posts that connection has and will always take priority. I ask him which of the statements is true, and why did he lie (at least one has to be false), and of course I get no answer.

    Also, connecting to other countries happens to everyone. It happens all the time, no matter what game mode or time.

    Condrey is full of lies, and this is the first CoD in a while that I will not be buying a season pass, and the next game is going to have to be an amazing piece of work for me to even consider buying it.

    Sadly, like many others, I believe I may be finished with the franchise.

    • Ryan

      Oh shut up you will see the trailer for the next game run out and buy it then complain again

  • To be honest condrey really fucking sucks now.
    Not only is he pulling dick moves, he’s telling people to just deal with it now.
    This may be rude to some people, but condrey can gueinly eat shit and loose his fucking job, like seriously, who cares if noobs are put up with good players? You’re put up agaisnt them so you get GOOD. It’s lagging up servers, people are getting sick of this shit and it’s only in their to keep money in activisions pockets.

    Even ghosts, the shittiest call of duty to date, didn’t have to awful crap implemented into the game. At this point, I’m done with advanced warfare. If treyarch doesn’t fix this shit, Activison can go fuck themselves, I’m going to be enjoying Battlefield.

    • Juses

      Oooh Moo Cow get mad πŸ™‚

      • Sorry, i just hate to see the stuff that is ruining COD kept in just for money. I mean, even MLG hates SBMM but it’s still kept in.

    • Juses

      Also yup. I agree with everything you just said.

    • spartanelite

      Why do you guys blame the community manager he just say we what the whole company agrees on he can’t just be like make all guns semi auto or something snap his fingers and it instantly change’s

      • He’s the co-founder of SHG, not a community manager.

        • spartanelite

          Same shit he still can’t do anything about it,it has to be an agreement, also he doesn’t make the game,the devs do that

          • jordanxbrookes

            It’s not the same actually. And yes the devs do make it, but it’s pretty much Activision’s call.

      • Because he doesn’t explain anything or that a problem is apparent. Since the game’s release he’s been avoiding questions about SBMM and both have been dicks to the fanbase.

        • spartanelite

          They still can’t do anything this is reason why so much people make fun of the Cod fan base most you guys bitch and complain and want shit instantly done in a second when in fact its a really long process and he still can’t do anything about it,its not his fault

  • shantzonpoint

    So basically he’s saying that the game is just broken that changing the matchmaking cannot solve it. If matchmaking has such priority, why is the game so inconsistent? I can easily tell if I’m ahead or behind opponents. Being 500ms behind the opponent isn’t going to help your team either……. If the game played consistent, I wouldn’t care which type of matchmaking they use. But it’s obvious to 90% of the us that it’s not……..

    I’m sorry but when I’m consistently getting paired against people from Mexico, Seattle, Miami, and Dallas (I live in Michigan), I have a hard time believing the connecitons have that much priority……….

  • Condrey Killed Cod!

    Lol what a load of bullshit lies! @Michaelcondrey is a fucking joke!

  • MamaMia

    This devs are pure trash

  • Stentar

    “We believe it adds a level of fairness”. News flash Condrey, life’s not fair. That’s exactly why you have ranked play! At least add a Mercenary playlist, because playing with a team of tards against a clan is not “fairness”. You can’t have it both ways.

  • Tep Kok

    He’s pretty much announced that he wants the game to be dead in the water within a few months.

    It’s official – Activision is actively trying to kill off CoD so they can move onto their next cash cow.

  • sTb

    fucking bullshit. I live in florida and i am matched with people in england, europe, or canada. its a very rare basis where I’m matched with a lobby in my same geographic region. they lie. connection don’t matter, ping don’t matter, latency don’t matter.

  • #wedontneedSBMM

    I borrowed aw from a friend and received bal inferno and asm1 speakeasy in the same supply drop ^^

    • jooker-jr

      At the beginning they give a lot of luck.

  • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

    Well then he’s ignorant, it’s not balanced when the other team is good and my teammates are terrible and we lose all the time. Focusing for the entirety of the game is also far from fun. Doesn’t he realize there’s a Ranked playlist if someone wanted to play competitively?

    • Xx_COLSEY_xX

      Yeah that’s usually my case in most scenarios. Whenever my team ‘sucks’ i just not bother PTFO (Playing the f*cking objective), i just salvage my K.D. That’s only if i’m 100% sure i’m not going to win that game

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        You speak the truth, brother. That’s my exact experience.

  • Takeitoutalready

    They need to take out sbmm or i’m done. I play on 360 we have not had an update that did somthing in over 2 and half months. Last one was for ranked play 2 weeks ago that did nothing because they cancelled ranked play season on last gen. Condrey needs to just remove sbmm and move on to the dozens of other problems. I play on dial up internet and have been unable to play for weeks now. I have a 3 kd+ and its hard for me to find people before sbmm. Now I cant find anyone to connect too. my only way was playing on an account with low stats and nows thats gone.

  • titan9

    I could tell it was all a lie as soon as i saw “Global dedicated servers” lol!

  • Xx_COLSEY_xX

    This is good news right? He’s actually listening to the community. If SHG do remove SBMM in AW, What will be the next thing that everyone will moan about? Lag? OP guns? SBMM still in the game? Guns not balanced? Let’s just appreciate this good news rather than jumping to conclusions.

    • zack

      This isnt good news. He pretty much says hes aware everyone wants sbmm out but hes not going to do it. He also lies and says its connection based matching and on dedicated servers which is false. Then he goes on to say its the same match making system that always been in cod. Which is why this game is trash because there is too much going on for the old cod engine to handle.

      • Xx_COLSEY_xX

        Ok, My K.D is 1.82. That’s decent on AW IMO. I get good games and i get bad games. But imagine IF they removed SBMM from AW… Yeah ok it might be good on your side if you’re good at the game and you smash people who aren’t good at the game. But imagine those people who aren’t so good at the game coming up against people with 2+ K.D… They would get destroyed. I’m 50/50 with SBMM. You can disagree with my statement as much as you want, i’m not really interested.

        • jordanxbrookes

          Play Combat Readiness and get good that way.

          • Xx_COLSEY_xX

            But what about those casual gamers? E.G: Someone works 8 hours a day, 5 days a week. Goes home, Have food and shower then hops on AW for an hour or two, Just to have fun after a long hard day at work and to take their mind off the stress. But then suddenly gets battered by competitive gamers. Do you think he / she would enjoy that experience? What if that was you?

          • jordanxbrookes

            Hence why I said Combat Readiness, it’s for noobs who want to play against other noobs.

          • zack

            Howd you start playing cod? You just start out with that 1.8 kd? No you got shit on like the rest of us until you learned and adapted to the game. They are catering to noobs because the real gamers are not playing this crap anymore. Aw was number one is sales this year but i can garauntee its also #1 in player drop off. This games so bad i refuse to play without a party of friends, because if i play alone sbmm is going to put me in a lobby with a party of good players and im gunna get wrecked. Almost every single game i play i alone i go negative or almost negative. Every game i play with a party i have atleast a 2.0. So tell me how it makes it more fun for the casual gamer that plays alone? I sure as hell dont have fun playing alone, let alone some noob whos never played. If it were mixed lobbies the noobs would have a chance to both play with AND against good players and it helps them do better.

          • Xx_COLSEY_xX

            actually i started playing CoD since MW3. (MAY 2012) My K.D was 1.35 i think until i reset my stats from 20th. Then my K.D was 1.90 at 7th. I had a great start on CoD TBH. Where you said “If it were mixed lobbies the noobs would have a chance to both play with AND against good players and it helps them do better” i can 100% agree with you and say fair point

    • He’s not listening to the community (at least on this subject). He’s been avoiding the questions for two months and now literally when Activision PR guys let him do it, he posts an answer you’d expect from a politician… And worst of all, he’s saying SBMM doesn’t even exists in AW – and that the matchmaking system in this game is exactly the same as it is in all the previous cods.

  • Haitian Jack

    So SBMM was never truly a factor in how people were matched up, and everyone was just whining for no reason. Hmmm….

    • jordanxbrookes

      *facepalm*

    • J4MES

      Yep and did you know the Loch Ness Monster is REAL too!?

      LOL!

      • jordanxbrookes

        And Big Foot lmao.

  • Mr Doge

    I know this has nothing to do with the subject but I’m pretty sure most people want these things added in:
    -The ability to set your matchmaking to ‘Best’ ‘Normal’ and ‘Any’ like in BO2.
    -The ability to see how many people are in each playlist as well as total amount of people online.
    -Last but not least, ability to turn off “Join in Session games”. I mean what the fuck, a lot of people are sick of joining in-session games and they get put into the losing team. Its so easy to do and it should of been in the game since CoD 4.

    • Multiple times I joined a halfway complete game. My teammates are getting literary raped by the enemies. I decided to stay, game ends, back to the lobby waiting for the game to start. For SOME reason, the game takes me out of that lobby and puts me in ANOTHER half way done game WTF? that’s when I completed quit this game….

  • Underdog BO1 FTW!

    I don’t have any connection issues but SBMM needs to go away…. It only took me 1 Week to be good at cod. Cod isn’t hard… I think SBMM should be in BF not COD because i tried BF and i quit because it’s too hard.

  • Fariko Lunatik

    LMAO all I get put against is people from France and Germany I mean there must be plenty of UK gamers out there!!! French always seem to get host and always have GOD connection

  • zack

    Tonight was one of the worst nights ive had in a while. Just lag city.

    • ccrows

      Yup, that’s why I played on my secondary garbage account.

      Connection was bad tonite…

  • MrTexMex

    fuk dis shit #treyarch2015

  • Sam

    Fuck SHG There shit This game is a time pass Untill BO3 comes out

  • Shannon Fightmaster

    Bullshit it shows in the sales that Call of Duty has been made for pros more then the every day player they are trying to force mlg still play on every day players and it shows if it was for the every day player the sales would be on top stop forceing me to play like a pro and just let me have fun remember Michael Condrey WITH OUT US THE EVERY DAY PLAYER YOU ARE JUST A NAME .

  • Super029something

    “” First, and I can’t stress this enough, player connection to the host always takes priority over skill in the matchmaking process – always, no exceptions. “”

    Aha, it feels good too be right! How many times have I said this only for idiots to say some shit like ” I CONNECTED WITH SOM1 FFRUM DIFF CUNTRY YESTERDOOO, ITS ALL BASED 0FF SK1LL NOT CONNECTION~!!!!~!)”. ((Looking at you, Kplem))

    Suck my dick, idiots of charlie intel.

    • Juses

      Micheal Condrey is lying.

      • Super029something

        But the people on internet forums are telling the truth, right?

        • Juses

          …About what?

          • Super029something

            ABOUT THE TOPIC WE’RE TALKING ABOUT /caps

    • J4MES

      If Michael Condrey told you Elvis Presley was still alive; you’d probably believe it!

      He lost all credibility when he said AW would be running on dedicated servers and yet it’s still 95% P2P. Stop sucking COD and Condrey’s dick kid.

      • Super029something

        Who am I gonna believe; people on internet forums, or the direct fucking source? I think its obvious.

        Suck my fat cock you stupid pleb.

        • LEL

          Source? Have you been living under a rock since November kid? This is well known and Michael Condom even apologised on Twatter for misleading people about the dedicated servers. CoD has you wrapped round their little finger. Deluded much

          • Super029something

            Haven’t played cod in like 5 weeks, not interested in playing it at all.

            But how fucking dare I believe the person who made the game over people who play the game.

        • J4MES

          Condrey already apologised for for his ‘error of judgement’ on this topic. Pay closer attention next time kid.

    • jordanxbrookes

      On a scale of 1-to-mentally retarded, how stupid are you?

      • Juses

        You tell him jordan.

        • jordanxbrookes

          Someone had to. The fact people believe the crap coming out of Condrey just proves how stupid people are.

          • Keshav Bhat

            And the fact that you were the person who sucked up to Condrey and now hate him just proves how stupid some people are.

            Stop attacking people because you don’t like this game. It’s immature and proves that you are a plan hater with no respect. Stop hating & start acting mature. Hate this game? Move on with your life.

      • Super029something

        Learn to use your the “-” key correctly before you insult my intelligence you ignorant faggot.

  • Get better

    This is getting too funny. You’ve all spent weeks moaning about SBMM, demanding answers. As soon as they give you what you want, you judder, and adjust your reality distortions by denouncing it as a lie.

    It really is too funny. Seriously.. what would actually convince you guys that connection comes first? Some people will argue a cups red, even when it’s clearly blue.

    Just deal with the fact that you were never as good as you thought you were. Your previous ratios were created by playing people who only played the game a couple of hours a week. These people are now quite properly protected from your advantage.

    May I suggest looking into a mirror daily and saying, you the man? It may help you with your egos.

    Viva la SBMM! πŸ˜€

    • This is probably the fairest and most unbiased comment I’ve seen on CharlieIntel.

      I’m ALMOST wanting to agree, however..

      I miss noobs. It’s what makes the game fun. Whether they’re on my team or the opposite team… It’s a game, it’s Call of Duty, SHG have just taken SBMM way over the top.

      Ranked Play Skill Based.

      Public Play.. A mosh pit of all skill levels based on optimal connections.

    • Juses

      Micheal Condrey is lying. And this wouldn’t be the first time a cod dev lied.

      • jooker-jr

        Prove it.

        • Juses

          Prove that cod devs lie? K
          Remember when they said no quick scoping in ghosts?
          Or when they said Fuk you last stand?
          Remember when they said that AW’s engine was built from scratch?

          • jooker-jr

            No, prove that M.condery lied in this statement.

            Sure they lied before ( I don’t consider ghosts’s quick scope to be a lie ) but randomly saying that they are laying just because you disagree with him is not right.

          • lunator100hd .

            blind ship you are

          • lunator100hd .

            i mean Get better

          • Keshav Bhat

            yeah, i remember when they said AW engine is new. where do you have proof that its not?

          • Juses

            Modders proved that it was not a new engine before the game launched.

      • J4MES

        He lied about dedicated servers blatantly so his trust has lost all credibility.

        • jooker-jr

          AW uses both DS and host ( unfortunatly )

      • Get better

        Devs lie? Absolutely! I just like to live in a world where people have proof before they accuse someone of lying.

        *This vision isn’t for everyone.

      • Keshav Bhat

        Can you show me proof of where Condrey is lying? k thanks.

        • Juses

          The part where he said that matchmaking takes priority over skill.

          • Guywithbrains

            That is not proof. You just repeated what Condrey said.

    • zack

      I actually have a higher kd in advanced warfare than ive had in any other cod. Ive played since cod 4. Bottom line is this game is lag city. Maybe you have 100ms internet so it doesnt lag for you? I have 50ms and its laggy. Its more so the lag compensation im talking about. I dont ever really skip around the map ever but the lag compensation is apparent almost every game. This game is twice as fast movement wise and its on the same engine theyve always used. Trying running around not sitting in a corner and youll see the lag compensation.

      • Get better

        Lol. I do lag – But that’s a different conversation!

    • LovekillerX

      Yeah this is so true. When you are being dominated, it isn’t fun at all and it makes you think that game is garbage. When you dominate… BOOM! Now it is fun to make noobs “cry.” Oh the irony…

      I can so agree with you. It is so nice to see people who thinks same way as I do. I want that SHG keeps protecting less skilled players from pros. And pros tend to say that “go to bots if you are bad.” Well we can say that go back to previous Call of Duty games if AW doesn’t please you! πŸ™‚

      I enjoy from AW and I have no lag at all. It has been good experience with a lot of challenge – I like that!

    • Tricky VIk

      “I don’t mind SBMM, I just wished I didn’t lag so often, still, I do good, highest K.D. from all the other CoD’s so far.”

  • Are you all serious? Either you are extremely sensetive or PC truly is master race…

    All jokes aside, I have never bumped into this problem on PC. One would think that because console has such a large number of players compared to PC(we have between 5k to 10k at the very most) it would match you up with better lobbies, however that seems like a negatory. I’ve noticed people on console not bein’ able to join their friends who are in higher prestiges than them, however I can connect to my friends, one who’s prestige master and has a great K/D of approximatly 3+ while I’m at 1.16 on prestige 9.

    Not to mention that I get into great lobbies with silky smooth connections 100% of the time(I have a connection of 100 bit down and 25 up), even when playin’ hardcore where there are usually 2 possible lobbies to join!

    From what I see, it seems like the network handling on console is rather broken if what you all say really is true, cus’ all of us over here have no problems at all :/

    • Oh really? Go to /r/CodAW, it’s mainly the PC players having huge issues because they have to sit in the queue for up to 20 minutes before they can find a game, and the only game mode they can play is mosh pit because it won’t connect to the other modes with less players.

      • J4MES

        I’ve never had matchmaking issues on PC and always get into a game fast and with no issues at all. Most people that have been spreading things like this on Steam don’t even own the game and have never played it. I wouldn’t pay any attention to them really.

      • I largely and wholeheartedly disagree. It takes barely 5 seconds for me to enter a match, no matter what I search for(Of course, unless it’s 4 in the mornin’ or work hours). Part of it may be because I live in Sweden and as far as I’m aware, PC CoD is more common in the Europe area.

        Some of my friends live elsewhere, such as Denmark, Germany and Austria, still no troubles with matchmaking there.

        If I have to, I can make a video showin’ 10 different matchmaking tries in order to prove the “bad PC matchmaking” shenanigans wrong :s If anythin’ was to make the connection bad for anyone, it’s the users internet, location and/or time of the day.

        • I’m not talking about your experience, but how you mentioned that everything is fine for everyone the on PC side… The people having issues might have a higher skill level so it can’t find anyone to match up with due to small player counts. But as J4MES mentioned, those complaints might not be even legit

          • I apologize for any misconceptions, but my original post was meant to describe my experience, I may have gone a wee bit overboard sayin’ that “everyone” is havin’ a good time here.

            And as I said, some of my friends are waaaaay better than me in the game and have the stats that reflects just that, yet they still have great matchmaking qualities. But then again, I don’t know where the words of “bad pc matchmaking” is comin’ from to be honest :/ The only complaints I hear from within the text chat in-game is how the game is generally bad, and, of course, how everyone is a hacker, heh.

            Then again, what the gentleman J4mes described may be true, that the bad words may come from people with the game not even at hand.

    • meow

      when will you people understand download/upload has nothing to do with having decent lat

    • Comrade

      I only played AW when it had a free weekend on steam. When I played my first 2 matches I did pretty decent cause it was mostly noobs, after that I suddenly got moved into a different lobby (without choosing to leave on my own) with more skilled players and I got crushed. I didn’t have a connection problem though.

  • RebornAngel666

    Never buying a Sledgehammer Games, COD game again.

  • Stefan Lang

    Honestly, the only day SBMM seemed to be turned off was on Christmas and probably two days after. There were nothing but noobs on TDM.. Anything else were mixed lobbies.

  • lunator100hd .

    The game is total garbage, almost nobody have fun in AW , these clueless developers have destroied cod for good

    • Mr.Bungle

      AW is best COD next to BO2

  • condorado

    its all big time corporate talk. these guys say what they’re told to say so everything sounds alright. and thats why nothing will change and they’re are just too stupid to program a decent matchmaking code. leave it to the experienced cod studios to get it right… if activision isn’t forcing them to do so the other way around… who knows. good bye aw.

  • Smarts

    If Bo3/WaW2 sucks, cod is dead. Nobody wants to play Ghosts 2, AW 2, or Treyarch’s 2018 game if the 2015 one sucks. They’d be smart to make a modern warfare remastered collection as well as a best of treyarch collection. That’d make more money than Ghosts 2/AW2

    • zack

      Treyarch is the only ones that can save cod.

  • Mr.Bungle

    All you complainers need to shut the hell up. I havent had a single problem with SBMM. Stop using McDonald’s wifi for you connection and I bet your connection problem will go away.

    • Ignorance level over 9000

    • zack

      Why should everyone need 100mbps internet to enjoy a game? I played on wifi 25mb for every cod before this. I play wired on 50mb now. And i lag more. Its the lag compensation that is the problem. Its just extra apparent on this game because of the movement. To a casual gamer it looks fine but its not.

      • Mr.Bungle

        I play on 15mb. I honestly dont know why everyone else has lag problems.

      • Mr.Bungle

        And I do know what lag is. You cant just lable me “casual” and say that I dont know what lag is. I do lag in AW, but its from someone else in the house streaming a movie. Once they stop streaming the connection is great.

    • LovekillerX

      This.

  • SoulTaker

    I feel bad for the man he probably doesn’t even have as much power as people think.

  • Cimbah

    anyone else lose the AE4 when you got unbanned?

  • Realist

    Can’t wait til March when Drif0r gets ‘leaked’ the new Treyarch Call of Duty from one of the ‘developers’ aka Activision marketing staff. I’m sick of AW already and have been for many weeks. At least we’ll know in two months what the next CoD is and we can expect a reasonable game from Treyarch who know the franchise and the community very well. 2015 is likely to be the last decent CoD game before it all falls apart when IW and SHG have another crack at the whip. I think both of these will kill the franchise off altogether. Ghosts 2 wont even sell 4m copies when that gets released and nobody will ever trust Condrey and co after their wealth of lies with Advanced Warfare.

    • Guywithbrains

      First of all don’t claim someone is a liar if you don’t have proof. A proof isn’t something that other Call of Duty developer has said (lied) years ago.

      Treyarch knows community? Spawn trapping in small maps, OP shotguns and SMGs, the worst lag ever, boosting, unfair teams more than often, too slow TTK, sounds from footsteps are too high (odd that no one complained about it but now they complain about SHG doing the same).

      Don’t be blind Treyarch fanboy. Remember this message when next title releases. Same old problems come back in their title but people just ignore them and don’t care.

      • zack

        Just stop. Treyarch is just better. Thats why there is more people playing black ops 2 than advanced warfare. Black ops 2 btw came out in 2012. The past two games have completely shit the bed and we are all waiting for treyarch to once again save the day with a playable call of duty.

        • Guywithbrains

          Well I only play BO2 party modes. Only mode which I can play from party modes are Stick and Stones and Gun game because the game doesn’t find lobbies to another ones and in normal playlist there is too much BS.

          “Just stop”. Can’t handle the facts I gave you? How are you going to answer to them?

          • zack

            AW is the easiest game ever to spawn trap. Op guns and smgs? Hello have you played advanced warfare? Ya know the game where the only usable guns are the bal27 and asm1? Add the obsidian steed and speakeasy to that which is a load of crap random unlock. TTK? Advanced warfare you get instantly melted but it takes 6 bullets to kill because of lag compensation.

          • Guywithbrains

            Well I don’t know about that lag compensation because I never experience it. I have had lag free experience since Day Zero on PS4.

            But OP guns is general problem with this series – even with Treyarch’s titles.

          • zack

            Sure some were over powered but others were still usable. I had almost every gun diamond or gold in bo1 and bo2. And my kd didnt suffer from using other guns. I had the day zero also and didnt get to play because sledgehammer sent out the wrong codes but never admitted it. They lied and said to be patient the servers were overloaded but it magically worked right at midnight.

      • Juses

        Uhh…? Do you not remember when Condrey said that there will be dedicated servers? Or when he said that AW’s engine was built from scratch? (Modders proved that it wasn’t a new engine) let’s not forget that he said just said matchmaking takes priority over skill, which is a obvious lie.

        • Guywithbrains

          Yes I remember. There are dedicated servers but they use same kind of system as Ghosts – not a lie.

          AW’s engine was built from scratch: I remember this one too but I remember them saying they used part of codes from previous titles (as everyone in gaming business does). – if I remember right – not a lie.

          Latest words being an “obvious” lie is something you can’t say because he has lied before. I lie too sometimes but that doesn’t mean I always lie.

  • chris

    Which is why PC sucks so bad, there aren’t enough players and it a laggy experience almost all of the time, do yourself a favor, stop releasing this game on PC.

    • Guywithbrains

      It is sad to admit but after MW2 this series has become a console game.

      • chris

        Had I known this, I wouldn’t have dropped 100 USD for this, I can sum up AW on PC in one word, disappointing.

        • zack

          Dont feel too bad, use console players are very disappointed as well.

        • Guywithbrains

          Well I personally don’t like PC gaming – too expensive, too complicated (error messages) etc. Only games I play on PC are MMOs (Guild Wars 2), MOBAs (LoL) and then The Sims series.

          Sorry for offtopic, moderators.

          • Terry

            How is PC gaming expensive? I could build a PC more powerful than the Xbox One for Β£100 cheaper than the unit itself. Also the games on Steam are extremely cheap. I picked up Alien Isolation for Β£15 two weeks after release, Evil Within Β£16 10 days after launch and CoD AW for Β£19. If you know how to run a PC; it’s easily the best method for gaming. 6200 games on Steam also compared to about 30 on the current systems. I’ve also been gaming in 4K for two years yet the consoles will still be in HD come 2021.

  • Terry78

    I can’t believe more people still play Black Ops 2 over Advanced Warfare. BO2 is also only on the old gen and AW is on both current and old and still fewer people play it. Just shows that the community loyalty lies with Treyarch even two years after the game was released. Thank god 2015 is their year and they are the only ones who can save CoD now.

    • Guywithbrains

      Can I lend your crystal ball? I want to see future too!

      • Juses

        Why do you get all defensive when someone says something bad about cod or something good about treyarch?

        • Guywithbrains

          Not being defensive I just want people to be realistic and stop pretending they know the future.

          “Treyarch saves Call of Duty”. By this logic I could say “WW3 starts tomorrow”.

      • Terry78

        Since 2009; Treyarch games have sold over 8m copies more than those made by IW or SHG. David Vonderhaar is also massively respected by the community as are the rest of the Treyarch team. Ghosts and AW are the two worst selling games since CoD 3. It’s clear the remaining CoD community value 3arc more and the fact that BO2 is still being played by more people than AW just says it all. Even AW has performed worse than Ghosts which is humiliating for SHG.

    • jooker-jr

      Do u have the data that proves that bo2 players are more than AW’s ?

  • Colin MacKenzie

    In all honesty, players should have the choice in which style of the game they try to play. That’s what attributes to BO2’s huge success. Players could still grind pubs if they wanted to, but at the same time they could use the League Play system to try and improve their game if they wanted to. When I first played Black Ops 2, I was going into my second year as a hardcore player (playing the hardcore playlist, in which there is little to no skill) and decided to try League Play. I grinded from Bronze (my first placement) to becoming a 5x Master by the time the game cycle ended. SBMM in the League Play system offered me and my friends the ability to challenge ourselves in a system with people of our own skill level. While I firmly believe that SBMM is beneficial for players (when coded and utilized properly), the players should be able to make a choice in the game to play casual pubs or League Play. I also agree with Keshav that eventually the casual community will have to face the choice to adapt to eSports or not purchase the future CoD titles. In the end, developers will continue to follow the trends and the money trail, so unless casuals choose to consciously stop purchasing the series, they will have little to no say as to how its development is influenced.

    • Assist King

      Damn good points. Liked the option to try my skills against people at a higher level. I then would realize I had no skills.

  • James Windle

    I’m not gonna lie; I had never heard of reverse boosting until I looked at this. This is one thing I would never do on a COD game, let alone being a normal booster, because I have some games where I do rubbish and I don’t do rubbish deliberately cos I’m nowhere near as good as everyone else. I’m not the type of person that does something to ruin the experience for other players because I’m just a typical guy that likes to play games.

    I play this game to have fun, whether I’m on my own or playing with friends, regardless of what my K/D is. The only real problems I’ve had ever since I got it on release day are lag, as I agree when they say connection is still a priority, and glitches in the maps that players seem to take advantage of all the time. That’s what gets on my nerves about this game.

    Like I said, I have good games, and I do have bad games as well, but I don’t have bad games on purpose.

    In terms of SBMM, I sometimes get in games where players are a higher prestige than me, and I just deal with it.

    As long I enjoy play this game, and play it for fun, that’s all I’m botheres about.

  • WasabeJuice

    Sad to know and say that the COD community especially on this site have become losers and whiners always complaining about SBMM over and over and not realizing they themselves are the problem they are not winning coz they are simply not good enough they prefer to play against newbies who are sitting ducks, what an epic Shame!

    • Favorite Ape

      If they weren’t good enough they are matched with not good enough players. Your fanboy argument is dismissed.

  • Dan Iron

    Well why are my team mates shit in every lobby while the entire enemy team is up and coming pro players

    • GinsuVictim

      Clan War

  • Guest

    {comunt wuz deletud}

    • Guest

      {wuz deletued tew}

      • Guest

        {am sery 4 deleten 3 communtz}

  • Assist King

    Shots taking/lag matter more to me than SBMM. AW is not consistent. I have a good modem and great internet connection that costs me a lot through Time Warner. I have never played a game where my shots taking can change every couple minutes. At least in Ghosts, yes I know how hated that game is, I could leave the lobby if the lag got bad and go to another lobby and not have issues. No luck with this game doing that. Some aspects of all the COD games that I did not care for, which can be said for everybody that plays, but at least my shots took on a regular basis in the past versions. I am done venting.

  • Alex

    Say what you want but I’m over this game (haven’t played it for weeks). Personally not a fan of futuristic FPS. The exo I feel is a gimmick and it got old quick. some maps are ok at best others can’t stand not to mention the LAG here in Australia is shocking I can’t find games (my internet is fine) blah blah same old story every year. Whatever, I just don’t care anymore. This franchise is finished, I will give Trayarch one last go after it’s the dreaded Ghosts 2 ahahah no way in hell I’ m buying that. On the plus side other great games to play this year a 2 year break from COD will do me well.

    Enjoy kids I just can’t be f***d anymore

    • jooker-jr

      So you hate futuristic games but you bought a futuristic FPS ?

      And since when you’ve been f***** ? Because none of us are.

      • Favorite Ape

        I was.

    • Carrisi

      Well said

  • JoZer805g

    If SHGames do remove SBMM, it would be really nice if they added a server browser to find a lobby with the best connection and maybe add rent a dedicated server which cost real $$$ with fair and legit rules and map rotations.

  • SBMM!!

  • I havent been one of the ones screaming about SBMM, maybe jokingly I have….But this matchmaking system is not the same as previous CODs and how strong the skill based part of the matchmaking is, is crazy. Unless I get somebody In my party to run the party that I know is really bad at the game, I have to fight my tail off every game just to go positive. The game that I do really well is pretty rare because of it. You can call it whining, you can call it fair to the people that arent very good, its whatever. But honestly, part of the fun in Call of Duty is destroying the other team sometimes. All I am saying is they need to tone it down a little if not remove it entirely.

    • shantzonpoint

      You and I are in lock step. I normally go positive but I’ll get in lobbies that I get destroyed in here and there. I average around 20-25 kills per matchand around 10-15 deaths.

      I played with my brother this weekend and it was his first time ever playing AW. To say the least he struggled. If he was party leader I would just roll match after match with 35-40 kills and less than 10 deaths. I went 46-4 one round. So the sbmm is really strong in this game.

      The fact that Condrey says connections are most important is a flat out lie. I have a netduma router and if I disable the filter I’ll consistently join hosts 2-3k miles away from me. It shows me right on a map where the host is so nice try Condrey……..

  • Andrewalaska

    He wants the multiplayer to be “FAIR”? Who decides what is fair? 10 kills 10 deaths? 1.0kd for everyone?

    I played Ghosts last night. Helo pilot twice. One game I was 21 & 1. That was fun advanced warfare isn’t.

    • BDigg

      Yep. The match making is not the same as what activision has always had in place I dont care what he says. SBMM is stupid, BO2 used it, and did not work in public matches there either. Ranked in BO2 worked great. In AW ranked should be SB, public should be regular casual public lobbies.

    • Guywithbrains

      Well another person could ask how is 21-1 stats fair for another team…? “Pro” playing against newbies you just proved it by yourself.

      Let me guess… you used the most used gun in the game?

  • Confirminator

    Garden Warfare is better than Advanced Warfare

    • Juses

      Without a Doubt.

  • Ak74u

    I won the clan war by myself guys!

    • jooker-jr

      Can u link to a webpage that explains CW ? Because I joined a clan I don’t know what to do.

      • Ak74u

        I don’t know where they would have a page that explains clan wars maybe try the official cod advanced warfare site. Do you have the app? The cod aw app also explains it under clan wars

        • jooker-jr

          Yes I do, thanks.

  • Ryan Ras

    If there isnt sbmm why does reverse boosting work??????????? P.s i have a friend who is terrible at this game. And when i tried to join an ongoing game of his it said the skill didference is to high. Any1 got that???? So he lies. Cause even the game tells you.

    • This is a pretty damn good question.

      Condrey is a liarrrrr

  • Ryan Ras

    So he posts a blog where he isn’t being interviewed by a real person? Basically its like one of his twitter posts where he gives you the round around but only this time its on shgames website

    • Juses

      He will be interviewed by a bunch of Youtubers on DramaAlert.

      • Ryan Ras

        They better ask, why does reverse boosting work. And why we get that skill level too high message

        • Juses

          Well yea… The interview was sussposted to be about trickshoters getting banned then in turned into The community vs Condrey.

      • jordanxbrookes

        I find it ridiculous that Thunder isn’t invited. If someone’s gonna rattle Condrey and attempt to get the truth of him, Thunder will do it.

        • Juses

          Well Keemstar and Thunder don’t really like each other at all. So that’s why Thunder was also not invited.

  • SPAWNST4R
  • Guest

    Holy shit, you guys are salty af!

  • Melchor

    What exactly is measured in SBMM? K/D and prestige level?

    • Kill Denied

      The length of your dick.

  • LovekillerX

    TAKE NOTE: Do not take this to yourself because this is Internet and everyone can tell their opinion. Read the comment if you can answer like an adult.

    ———————————————————————————————————

    I can imagine these people complaining about SBMM even if lag would be gone because they don’t like to be dominated. It is fun to humiliate noobs but when you’re being dominated… now it isn’t fun?

    I feel bad for this community. If I remember right we were asked if we wanted to have more competitive CoD or more casual and people voted for competitive – which means that SBMM would likely to be involved.

    I’m not a good player but I wouldn’t call myself bad. I still want that noobs can have fun too. I want to give them chance to get better. Now that they’re protected by SBMM I’m happy. I say that SBMM should stay and so does many others. You don’t see these people telling their opinion because they are simply HAPPY.

    So my point is that you should stop complaining because it isn’t going to change. They want that everyone can have fun. So if SBMM and lag doesn’t please you, you can simply return to Black Ops 2 which you praise so much or even earlier CoDs.

    • Favorite Ape

      No need to answer. All the reasons have been explained before. Look, we know by your past posts that your a ATVI shill, but why keep asking for the reasons SBMM is not good for anybody over and over? Tweets, Reddit, YouTube, even this site has plenty of evidence against SBMM. Look it up and come back when you can actually refute any of it. Thanks.

  • Piss Cakehole

    And this is the reason why i will never play online for this call of duty

  • Piss Cakehole

    Because of the sbmm

  • Reality Check

    Quote from Jordan Brookes below in the comments: ”The fact people believe the crap coming out of Condrey just proves how stupid people are”

    Now correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Jordan believe all the ‘crap’ coming out of Condrey which is why he bought the game in the first place and also branded Sledgehammer is ‘favourite’ developers in another article just before release? Just shows how idiotic the CoD community is;- hype themselves to death pre-release and then hate the game and spend most the year crying until the next game is announced only to go through it all again. It’s also pretty sad that people who aren’t good at this game blame everything else rather than their own inability to be good at it.

    Worst community ever. When CoD is finished for good next year, the gaming world will be a happier place.

    • Guywithbrains

      The first phase of Call of Duty cycle has started. I already saw in this comment section claims about Ghosts being better.

      But don’t worry when 2016 comes everyone like AW.

      (Take last part of this message as a half joke)

    • Favorite Ape

      I respect when someone looks at the hard facts and changes their view based on those facts. I wouldn’t worry about the cod community doing that every year. Based on the nose dive in sales I’d say people are getting smarter about the ATVI bs.

  • Luis

    ide buy stock off activision at this time.

    • Favorite Ape

      Buying stock for ATVI would be a bad investment at this time. It’s dropped $6 just since mid September.

      • Luis

        Best time to buy is when people don’t have faith. Prices drop. Never buy stock when its high up,that only leaves a long way down. Look at McDonalds. Ppl hated it when supersize me came out. Stock price dropped. Some people got tons of cash because it rose back again. Zombies will bring in tons of sales even if people claim they won’t buy it. The quiet ones are the majority . loud people just get their voices heard more.

        • Favorite Ape

          Could be, but the launch of aw and ATVI’s optimistic bs about it did nothing for the stock. They seem content in seeing one of their flagship franchises get dragged down with customer satisfaction at an all time low. I see nothing in the future to convince me ATVI will do anything more than continue to offer cheap gimmicks rather than produce a product that have a positive effect on their customer base. Anything connected with this game seems to be a loser. EA, on the other hand shows a clear growth of about $10 since mid September.

  • OldManLight

    he kinda contracticts himself when he says “matchmaking is the same as it always was” but then validates that skill is a factor over the concern over people suiciding to lower their skill rating” Which is it? If connection is paramount, then why does people suiciding in corner matter. If it doesn’t affect matchmaking, then all they’re doing is hurting themselves without benefit to them personally.

  • Tim Vikouski

    activision should be having a talk to this guy ,he does nothing but insult the cod players what a joke for a company ,im done with cod with all the games that are coming out now who needs cod ,ive been a fan of it since mw now its like a bad dose of the clap

  • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

    Maybe CoD players have gotten better. And maybe it’s NOT butter.

  • Chris Rash

    IW is the only dev team who knows how to make a CoD. Ghost is the best CoD out of the last 3.

  • Travaris

    What I want to know is when Treyarch said they removed SBMM. From what I remember, they never publically said they did but people assumed it was gone. If I’m wrong, show me Von’s tweet. If you dont and you say Treyarch’s the best COD dev ever, Im just gonna laugh at you

  • FUCK YOU LAST STAND!

  • Cody Moore

    It’s very easy to get around sbmm just party up with a friend with that isn’t good and tear up sbmm is a terrible system because all it takes is a party to make a match completely unfair I know from chains of games with great kds and big killstreaks

  • JMD2471

    It is definitely not the same as previous CoD’s. I have been playing CoD since CoD2 on the Xbox 360, and played every one since. SBMM doesn’t work. At first I thought it was going to be a good thing, but it turns out that all people have to do is make someone with terrible stats from the beginning the host of the squad. Guess what happens then Sledgehammer? The entire team is thrown into lobbies with terrible to mediocre players that get squashed game after game. That just shows, SBMM does not work. I hope that Treyarch is paying attention to all this information players are putting on here so they don’t make the same mistake Sledgehammer did.

  • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

    I’m not a reverse booster, but I understand why people do it.

    It does nothing to hinder the game. It’s not cheating, so why ban it? Maybe you shouldn’t put in saw a flawed system. By Sledgehammer’s logic, they should ban bad players because they don’t contribute. What a hack.

  • Black Six

    It doesn’t matter if connection comes over skill. SBMM is in this game and it fucks up the connection, and the pub stomping. What in the hell is SBMM doing in public lobbies when league play is SUPPOSED to be for that? That’s why I don’t play this shit anymore because I have to go into the game battles when I play. I went and played league play on Black Ops 2 today for the first time and I had to play balls to the walls because the people were playing super crazy. I don’t mind some competitive games here and there but not every day. sometimes I just want to run around the map using just a few smart tactics and outsmart people. I don’t wanna have to fucking play defensive every game just to stay alive. SBMM needs to be out of this game so I can ATLEAST enjoy it. Most of this games problems are minor but the SBMM has to go. Buff the fucking weak ass SMGs and some of the ARs so people can using a different variety. And stop taking so damn long to do it. Until SBMM is gone from this game, back to Black Ops 2.

  • Marquis Hendricks

    How does skill based matchmaking work if your in a party? Does anyone know?

  • ramiromoreno956

    Come on remove the skill match making its annoying thats the worst feature in the new cod who cares about the level of fairness, fairness is playing with random players with mixed skill level like the previous cods ..

  • javion

    Cod aw exo zombies not working can u please fix it….it says download able content package was removed or all profiles was signed out

  • Patrick

    It’s too hard, I get last kills now then when I first started. Forget about cool score streaks in death match.

  • wiseguy

    I have tried creating a cod account but have not received the verification email. What do I do?!?!

  • XAaroneous1112X

    Ive recorded multiple clips where i get 5 to 10 shots in then die and the kill cam either shows my gun never fires or i only get 1 bullet in. I have a 25 meg conn so this shouldnt happen as often as it does. Im no pro, idont mind dying, but dying in gunfights 80 percent of the time i should win is bull. I aim down sights around a corner and fire a good three bullets in their chest for them to hip fire kill me. If this has happened to anyone else let me know on here or msg me on xbox my gtag is my post name

  • Greg

    Doesn’t really matter. The game isn’t fair either way when only one person can get the best gun and the others are left with crap guns all game guaranteeing that person twice as many kills as anyone else and that person just running in every direction thinking they can kill everything just leads to that person getting his whole team killed

  • KLEM525

    I feel the worst aspect of skill based matchmaking is that I basically cannot play with my friends or anything other than TDM. I have a few friends that aren’t quite as good and we don’t even play anymore. It always matches me with people far away and the game is never smooth. Its no fun at all and we have been playing CoD together since Modern Warfare. I feel that their attitude is focused on gaining new players and not taking care of those who have made it what CoD is today.

    SBM SUCKS!!!!

  • Johnny Bravo

    Bruh fuck this guy, I’m taking this piece of shit ass game to GameStop as soon as Black Ops 3 comes out.

  • Discord

    umm im rank 31 and get ranked with rank 40-50s and

    rank 10-20s most of the time

  • advanced warfare is bad

    you get banned for joining a lobby that you hade no idea was a modded lobby

  • Mike Davis

    What a load of shit. This match making resembles nothing of previous titles. Unless you mean current! Yes COD AW has the same connectivity as BO2 has currently. With its degraded old title servers and degraded platform maintenance, yeah they’re the same when you compare them like that.. If BO3 lags half as bad as AW, I’ll be getting a refund and never fucking with anything from Activision again. This shit’s a fucking joke of a game.

  • Timor Miakhel

    I’m only prestige 6 and I’m always up against player that are far beyond my skill level (max prestige) so I can’t do challenges also I can never find any games in hardpoint and other popular game modes so I am half of the time I’ve played I was waiting in a lobby so no way is it bloody skill based.

  • Damian Cashman

    keep being matched to austrailian connection 1 bar non stop bops 3 WTF treyarch wheres the prioritisation ?

  • lucas leach

    Old thread and it has gotten worse I had 9 from Mexico 4 from Canada and 2 from the US. 2!!!!!!!! There is 347 players in my county online right now in the same mode!!!! Fringe my tail feathers I live in the middle of the US and the middle of town. I had a guy just now ask me why my team was acting like they were all very drunk. The answer is simple the game is not responding properly to our input consistently. Spikes make it fun and that is why it makes no bloody sense. You shoot 5 bullets 1 and 2 count 3 and 4 don’t exist then 5 does and you’ll never know the difference and believe those 2 just missed except they gave us hit markers. Now it creates an illusion of dropped damage output on your weapon.

  • lucas leach

    You want ghosts bullets to go away make a dual-host system. 12 players on one host is problematic we have seen that. Cut it down to half or duplex and see if that doesn’t fix just about everything. It isn’t as simple as it sounds you have things to worry about like what if one team has a great host and the other has a crappy one. Well I am glad you said that because it will probably happen. The best I can say is half of each team to a single host at least if this was to occur the field is split even. If one host was to dc half the lobby would drop out that would suck the other host might be able to hold you until a new host is selected. No more dc lobby’s πŸ™‚