Treyarch has confirmed to AliA during his recent visit to the studio that Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 matchmaking system will be similar to Black Ops 2, in that Skill Based Matchmaking will not be a highly prominent as it was in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare.

Skill based matchmaking has been a big controversy in Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, and it looks like Treyarch has opted to take the route from Black Ops 2 instead.

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  • LovekillerX

    This is fine for me. Everyone is winner I guess?

    • Slothigans

      This is more than fine. People just need to genuinely shut the fuck up. All the haters are acting like the world revolves around them. I’m happy.

    • Sexy Mcgee

      Just in case I’m still going to start my MP career with the shittiest weapons or the most trolling playing style.

  • HenryDF

    I never noticed it in the first place. Glad the comments isn’t going to be filled with whiny kids though from now on.

  • TheDemonOfHate

    I’m happy ^.^

  • Hi, Elliot Rodger here

    So it looks like I’m going to be pub stomping on all you noobs now. Thanks Treyarch.

    • Tricky VIk

      “Or vice-versa.” c;

  • guest

    welp thats the only thing i cared about. not the trailer not the double jump not anything else just the sbmm im fully hyped now

  • jordanxbrookes

    I’M DANCING WITH JOY RIGHT NOW!! YES!! LOVE YOU VAHN AND YOUR BIG BALD HEAD!!

    • HenryDF

      Calm down Jordan. Remember what happened last time you got excited about a game.

      • jordanxbrookes

        I know, but this brings tears to my eyes knowing that it isn’t going to be Sweaty Warfare 24/7 for me.

        • HenryDF

          If the news that there won’t be AW-level SBMM brings tears to your eyes, you need to get a life.

          • jordanxbrookes

            “You need to get a life” K.

          • Dangelo95

            He’s not the only one excited about SBMM being like black ops 2 I like to be laid back when I play cod I don’t like having to go try hard every single game cause I’m playing with try yards and I think I can speak for the whole community on this one

          • SoulTaker

            Well the way he put it “brings tears to his eyes” made it seem like COD is his life lol no hate on him, but that was a little far.

          • jordanxbrookes

            It’s only because this year felt like I missed out on a CoD due to it being unplayable.

          • Dangelo95

            A lot felt that way and what people don’t realize and what I truly believe is that Advanced Warfare could have been a very fun game the Exo suit could have worked but SBMM is what killed it for a lot of us I’m not against advanced movement it just doesn’t work with SBMM and the map designs in AW

          • jordanxbrookes

            AW had a lot of potential to be good, but it was the chaotic movement and SBMM that made it unplayable for me.

          • John

            I can’t wait for November when you’re bitching about how bad this game is. ?

          • jordanxbrookes

            Don’t worry, I’m already expecting the lag, bad hit detection, OP shotguns, C4 spam and the rest of the bullshit.

          • FaZe Luuk

            Cant take that? Go play de campaign you pussy

          • jordanxbrookes

            *Has FaZe in his name* Seems legit.

          • idkwhatmynameis

            The game is very playable. If you don’t enjoy a challenge every game say that, don’t cry and exaggerate things.

          • jordanxbrookes

            The game isn’t to me and many people, that’s why we’re playing other games lmao.

          • idkwhatmynameis

            Its playable to me and many people. We also play other games because one title doesn’t control our life. Lmao

          • idkwhatmynameis

            I bet every game you’re not good at is UNPLAYABLE

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            We have to be good at a casual game? Stupid ass logic.

          • idkwhatmynameis

            We have jump in to defend other peoples conversation? Stupid ass commenter. So now the object of the game is to be bad?

          • idkwhatmynameis

            All I see everyday is people like you whining about how aw isn’t good. Its too chaotic its too random its too fast sbmm exos suck op guns supply drops lag, if its such a casual game stfu and just play it. Stop logging on to the same website just to vent and get up votes for some satisfying feeling in your little sad life. Most casual gamers aren’t on fan pages like this every effin minute searching for any new details or update about the game. I played with people yesterday who didn’t know about the tdm update and I had to explain, that happens when you’re a casual gamer you find out things at random times and your life doesn’t revolve around cod. Plus 99% of games are casual its up to the individuals that play to decide if they are going to take it casually. If you go the extra mile to be into every aspect of the game its no longer casual, you guys religiously play cod. Don’t call it casual I played for two years before I even knew about YouTube and perk/class setups and leaks and patch notes etc..
            If it was such a casual game to you, you wouldn’t have responded with your stupid ass logic comment. And don’t throw out some “WE have to good” bs, YOU know YOU want to be ok/good enough to have fun with the game so speak for yourself try hard crybaby bitch

          • idkwhatmynameis

            Also show me a direct quote since you felt the need to step up and say something stupid ass boy

          • Midy

            LOL. Nice burn.

            Hate internet ppl stepping up to say something. Wish there was an internet sucker punch.. like his webcam would shoot out the laptop / desktop and give him a bloody nose.

          • idkwhatmynameis

            Or at least a phone app

          • Tricky VIk

            “Though you may be right on your account and some other peoples opinion, I enjoy AW, though you may not I respect your opinion, comrade.”

          • The Real Vorkuta is in Russia

            Are you Russian? You type like you are stereotyping Russians.

            I am from Moscow and I take offence to non-Russians dissing my nation.

          • Tricky VIk

            “No one is stereotyping anything, but to each their own my friend.”

          • Devedre That’s Daved Slaughter

            Not thats a hot lie how in the heck is it playable when the lag has running into walls and you shoot at some one and it takes you 20 shots to kill someone and takes the other team 2or1 and your dead playable my booty have several seats please

          • Kurama The Nine-Tailed Fox

            How do you know he wasn’t speaking figuratively?

          • SoulTaker

            Shhhh Kurama Naruto needs you right now.

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            It’s a figure of speech.

          • SoulTaker

            I know, but still feels funky.
            😛

          • jordanxbrookes

            Thankyou Sal.

          • Billy Bedlam

            i agree with jordan we dont need SBMM what happen to just having fun in pubs?

          • jordanxbrookes

            Fun > Skill, PERIOD. Been saying this for months.

          • Billy Bedlam

            agreed AW SBMM killed cod but ive been on bo2 so much fun compared to aw

          • jordanxbrookes

            Same, these last 4 days I’ve been getting my fun on with Black Ops 2.

          • Billy Bedlam

            this game could be so much fun im looking fowaed to the beta

          • idkwhatmynameis

            Don’t speak for me

          • Bolbi Stroganovsky

            Sweaties and try-hards mannn; tired of it :/

          • Tricky VIk

            “Would he be dead if he had no life?..”
            “Just a thought.”

        • sweaty warfare ? those ‘tryhards’ (or how the fuck you noobage call them) are just better players than you.. deal with it and from that moment, you’re going to have bit more fun in FPS games 😉

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        You’re getting excited, too.

    • Theater mode confirmed *_* Now i just want league play

      • jordanxbrookes

        I know, I heard. Just YES!

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        Nty league play is awful and encourages esports.

    • Practice Some Restraint

      Calm down.. You sure you want to commit now?

      Don’t want no career in youtub-ing no more? No more likes and upvotes for you?

      Pariah of CI? or return of the Prodigal Son?

      The ball is in your court mate.

  • guest

    im glad they announced this and didnt try to keep it from the fan base so glad they did this im ecstatic right now!

  • Dang it. I love skill based match making. I don’t like playing people that have different skill then I do. I like playing people my skill level.

    • LovekillerX

      Well for me it is important that it isn’t gone for good. It is still there but not in so big role than in AW.

      • What I liked in Advance Warfare was before they took a little bit of SSBM when I prestiged, I would be in a lobby full of people who recently just prestiged as well and they would be level one. That’s what I liked.

    • guest

      shut up please

      • No.

        • guest

          yes

          • guest

            no

          • rel

            why u hitting yourself retard?

      • SoulTaker

        He’s stating his opinion.

    • Lawfulmaxhavoc

      For me I was playing people from across the world because I had a 3.0+ kd, my connection was shit on because of SBMM

      • LovekillerX

        If they can prioritize connection but still include the skill level in matchmaking that would be cool. It seems like they are going to do it that way. I’m happy.

        • Rei Zanaliu

          Yeah but even that way it affects badly the PC players where the player count is very low. so in my opinion it should be connection only.

        • ew

          thats the type of matchmaking Condrey said was instilled in AW… didnt exactly work

    • Anon

      You mean tht u love playing with noobs?

      • T

        And everyone anti-SBMM seems to prefer playing with noobs too

    • ben wills

      What? It’s a conceptually a flawed system. KD and any other score doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is the ELO rank which they don’t give you access to. It’s awful. You have no performance indicator.

    • Freeze

      K/D is not skill 🙂 simple as that. No problem. There are other things in the game that matter.

  • ben wills

    BO2 started this whole SBMM downfall. It’s the game that AW copied. This sucks. BO2 literally is the game that SBMM was first a problem with.

    • Smayo

      But they fixed it after the complaints, listened to the community, acknowledged their mistake putting it in pubs heavy, and for the SBMM lovers there was League play

      unlike SHG who think they know best, and look where there game is now, a competitor for worst CoD ever, I wonder how many people still be playing AW after november 6…

      • eee

        the SBMM lovers will still be playing AW, lol. Thats it I think.

    • idkwhatmynameis

      You know how it goes tho. People change their tune all the time. Conviently overlooking issues or not remembering correctly all the flaws they once complained about.

  • Guywithbrains

    I wonder if this brings eternal problem back: pubstompers. I would like to come from work/school/whatever place to home and relax by playing Black Ops 3. But I can’t have fun if enemy team is full of sweaty tryhards stomping on me.

    But I guess this is better solution than no SBMM at all. But remember guys new movement system + SBMM does bring a whole new skill requirements to this game as we learned with AW back then.

    • wee

      Just leave the game when there are “tryhards”. Its always been an option. Not every single game was full of pubstompers. Lobby shop a little.

    • Papa

      Excuse my english, son 😉
      Have you played aw cus
      i always play against full parties pubstompers, maybe my kd 2.01 wl 1.91
      these things were rare events on older cods like full parties and such
      Dont mean to offend you but maybe you have low stats and get in fun lobbies?

  • Desures

    this is great news now neck beard fat ass jordan wont have sweat stained on his white shirts from them “sweaty lobbies” 🙂

  • J4MES

    Great news. This means you don’t have to connect via P2P to someone on the other side of the world because they are in your skill group with the whole lobby getting lag comped in the process! BO2’s matchmaking was ideal because you had locale as a priority and the lobbies were filled with players of all abilities so the matches were all varied instead of being sweaty.

  • Freeze

    See? Everyone happy!

  • Guest

    <3

  • THEATER MODE IS COMING

  • Mark

    I just had to. PRAISE LORD VONDERHAAR

    • jordanxbrookes

      I love where Condrey is XD

    • Baruck obuma

      normal supply drops weren’t a bad thing

      • VersaType

        Yeah they were considering it takes way too long to get the variants you want. If it were based on a set amount of xp earned with a gun the variants would’ve been fine (for the most part).

    • Drasadex

      Lmao nice

    • lol @ Condrey.

    • Drasadex

      “notice me senpai”

    • zombiefreak935

      This is the kind of thing I remember from last year. Oh God!!

    • idkwhatmynameis

      Where does it say no sbmm????

    • Can’t forget a good PC version.

      • VersaType

        Yep! Now I won’t feel so tethered to a console for some games anymore. I can’t wait to finally get into PC gaming, and play this game at launch!

        • NuttyTheSquirrel

          If you want to get into PC Gaming, you couldn’t make a bigger mistake than want to play CoD. CoD has been the worst triple A game in years now to come to PC. Treyarch has been a pretty good PC developer, compared to the other CoD developers. But they need to get to the level of DICE or even Rockstar.

          • VersaType

            I’m not all of a sudden wanting to switch over just because of CoD. I’ve been wanting to make the switch for awhile now. However Treyarch is taking much bigger strides to make CoD really good on PC this time around. This is goid news to me, since it would be nice to play CoD on PC.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Ok, good luck then. 😉

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        Did you see the system requirements? Don’t get this game on pc, cod is a console game.

        • ben wills

          …….no

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Yes. The game will not be optimized like blops deuce was.

          • ben wills

            k.

        • BradyAlucardisdumb

          Lmao yeah I’m gonna not play at 4k resolution at 90+fps on pc rofl keep joking to yourself console fanboy

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            You are an idiotic sock account troll. I’m talking about lower end rigs, idiot. And cod is a console game, get over it. And nice job being a hypocrite. Pc sucks btw

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Tell me why PC sucks? I wanna hear what you come up with.

            Probably the bullshit argument of piracy. Which isn’t as big as everyone makes it to be.
            But please, tell me.

          • mathew

            Did he for fit The fight hahaha pc wins fatallaty lol I’m ps4 but hahahaha

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            You’re an idiot. He’s totally right. CoD is a console game. CoD has never been that good on PC.

            CoD 4 and WaW were good. MW2 was really bad, Black Ops was really bad at launch, but it got better with time. MW3 was even worse than MW2. Black Ops II was good on PC (still has mouse acceleration problems). Ghost was the worst CoD ever on PC. And Advanced Warfare was good on optimization and the options that it gave us. But the sensitivity tab only has 10 options, and it still has mouse acceleration problems, something that is not acceptable because there are games that were released in 2005 with RAW Input option.

          • C’mon man, who’s opinion do you plan to change with that type of attitude?

        • RdJokr

          Dude, are you serious? That system requirements is perfectly fine. Plus, Treyarch’s aiming to make the game scalable on older hardware as well.

          And please don’t say COD is a console game. That’s just wrong. I respect your choice of platform, but COD has been a PC game since the very beginning. It had its ups and downs, but Treyarch is making it clear that they want BO3 to be as big as COD4 on PC. This is gonna revitalize the PC playerbase.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            I’m sorry but CoD is a console game. It has been since MW2 came out.

            The PC community has also moved on to better things. We’re not gonna wait 5 years for a good CoD.

            Just because it started on PC, doesn’t mean it can’t be a console game.

          • RdJokr

            Doesn’t mean it can change. You console guys had your fun, now it’s time PC players get the treatment they deserve. Now that Activision is taking the PC market seriously, we will show them that we are worth investing in if they do the job right.

          • NuttyTheSquirrel

            Activision doesn’t give a shit about PC. But Treyarch does. They’ve shown that they give a shit with BO and BO2.

            “You console guys had your fun” – I’m a PC gamer. And CoD is a console game, it has been for a long time. Doesn’t mean PC doesn’t deserve a good CoD game, I never said that.

        • Ofcourse, I’d never buy a FPS on PC my aim is god awful

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Well good for them, but Treyarch seems biased now. Its lame that there’s any platform bias.

      • RdJokr

        I literally cried when watching Drift0r talk about how much of an emphasis they put on PC.

        Finally, the PC community is getting the COD game they deserve ;_;

        • Rorke File

          Because they are only working on next gen and PC.

      • Cesar Martinez

        depends if you have a PC gamer (i7,geforce titan,4gb ram)

    • Ashton Cooper

      There is SBMM.

      • Won’t be as bad as AW if it’s like BO2!

        • ben wills

          BO2 IS WHERE AW COPIED IT FROM

          • Kobrah

            HAVE YOU EVEN PLAYED BOII AND AW?

          • ben wills

            No shit. Do you even know what SBMM is? Were you around on BO2’s launch? Did you pay any sort of attention? You fell off the rail somewhere.

          • Kobrah

            For 95% of its life cycle it had only very MINIMAL SBMM. Obviously I know what Skill Based MatchMaking is… Do you?

          • And what makes you think that?

          • ben wills

            the code

          • What code? Drift0r went over AW’s code awhile ago and it didn’t seem like BO2.

    • Is that Condrey as Judas? ?

  • Juses

    Dank teh lerd!

  • YES! The game should be much more enjoyable without heavy handed SBMM.

  • Stefan Lang

    This is why Treyarch will remain superior. A bo2 type feel on Next Gen is what we fucking needed for the longest. I’ve never cared about my stats in other games besides bo2.

  • I can finally be free from sweaty tryhards!

    • shantzonpoint

      This statement cracks me up because everybody that says it, are one themself…..lol.

      • but I am a n00b… :

        • shantzonpoint

          You’ll get better by playing against better competition. We were all noobs at one point as well. 🙂

          • w

            good thing theyre mostly removing SBMM then, alot these noobs that want SBMM to stay are gonna have to learn lol

  • Nitro21

    R.I.P PWNSTARZdotCOM ?

  • MichiganerE

    You’re all gonna hate this game 4 months after it comes out and say that AW was better.

    • Juses

      Nobody will say that AW is better

      • MichiganerE

        That’s what everyone said about Ghosts and looked at what happened.

        • Blaine

          I don’t think many people say Ghosts was better than AW, but both games were a special kind of bad. I can promise nobody will be saying AW or Ghosts was better when BO3 comes around.

          • MichiganerE

            Most are though, have you even read the comments? I can promise everyone will saying the same shit about BO3.

          • w

            yeah lets put the whole COD community under the same bubble because of a few comments.

          • MichiganerE

            Well, it mostly is the whole CoD community.

          • guest

            if you say so *rollseyes*

          • MichiganerE

            You know it’s true.

          • C’mon Now

            Please.. just link it and he will shut up.

            That is all he wanted and you seem too thick to understand that.

            Will save you carpal tunnel syndrome from all that typing when a link or screen shot would suffice.

          • C’mon Now

            When you can prove it, ppl will shut it.

          • Mini

            Please, by all means, link us some of the comments. Most people are still saying good things about BO2. There are very few comments about ghosts and those are only particular comments such as connection, old school movement, etc.

            All you have to do is look at the player count on xbox live and PSN for ghosts and BO2

          • MichiganerE

            Why link comments when the proof is right in front of your face?

          • Mini

            ahhahah yeah, believe what you want. Nice try, kid.

          • MichiganerE

            Even though it’s true? Also, I’d just like to bring this up, but a majority of the time, the person whom calls someone a kid is usually a kid themselves.

          • Mini

            huh it’s true? Let me interpret your bias, you mean in your opinion, it is true? Lol you are definitely a kid. You don’t even know how to properly express your thoughts. It’s too bad that this time doesn’t fit the majority.

          • MichiganerE

            It is true, just look at YouTube videos and comments and you’ll see. And you’re not a kid? You’re not doing a good job at expressing your opinion at all. But what do I expect from a CoD fan like you. You guys that still manage to to love this franchise are so in denial of everything someone else says. Only the minority in the Charlie Intel community have realized this. Yet again, you’re most likely the same person who get’s hyped up for the next CoD game, then hates on it after it’s release and says the last one was better.

          • Mini

            hahah man you are still going with your “it’s true.” Do you not realize that makes it seems as it’s a fact? And this discussion is clearly not about facts.
            So you are telling me to look at youtube comments? All I see is that people dislike both games. I don’t see any comments regarding ghosts is better than AW. By all means, link me some comments

            And I love how you are criticizing me failing to express my opinion. Coming from you? Tha’ts a joke. You are literally expressing your opinions so strongly as if they are facts. And you don’t even realize it! LOL

            I have yet to get hyped for a cod game after BO2. Again nice try.
            Denying everything? Minority of CHarlie Intel? Please, enlighten me more with that story. Seems like you didn’t finish.

          • MichiganerE

            Fine, keep denying it, you’re only hurting yourself.

          • Mini

            denying what? AW is worse than ghosts? hahaah clearly i’m hurting myself. Yup. lol you lost it. haha

          • MichiganerE

            I’d rather lose over being someone who finds victory in an argument like you. Lol, what an accomplishment.

          • Mini

            theres victory here in forums? LOL you are clearly taking this way too seriously

          • MichiganerE

            I’m not taking seriously, and what’s up with “LOL” being in all of your comments? Are you obsessed with it?

          • Mini

            I think your comments have been awfully amusing. What are you even trying to accomplish here? You are definitely a kid. The way you think is like… omg just *facepalm

          • MichiganerE

            I’m not trying to accomplish anything at all, i’m just here to fuck with you. Do you actually I give a shit about this “argument” at all? And you’re calling me a kid? Says the guy using “LOL” in every comment. The way I think? I at least I can think, I doubt you have the brain to.

          • Mini

            haha lol you are such as dumbass. Clearly i don’t have the brain to think. That’s why i’m here replying to you and disagreeing with your opinion.
            lmfao kid. You clearly give a shit, since you are still replying. hahaah are you acting stupid or actually stupid?

          • MichiganerE

            You’re calling me the idiot when you haven’t realized that this entire time, I’ve been trolling you? I don’t care about this thing at all. And you’re calling me a kid when you’re more brainless then one? Thanks for falling for the bait, let me give you a virtual cookie for falling for it for this long.

          • Mini

            You honestly believe that you are good at trolling? haha. Because believing that one game is better than the other is surely trolling. Thats got to be the shitties trolling ive ever seen. Hahhahhahaah thanks for proving my point. You are truly a fucking dumbass!
            either that, you are just backpeddling because you had no point. Regardless which side of the story this falls, it really makes you look so stupid and nevertheless, amusing.
            what a fail

          • Pointless comment(s)

            You both are clearly caring about how you appear on these forums, yet noone will remember you after 5 mins. Who the hell finds it funny trolling on forums that almost nobody reads? AND WHO KEEPS REPEATING LOL IN ALL HIS COMMENTS, AND SAYING SOMEONE IS WORSE THATN HIM??? Like seriously…..

            Wow i just relized that i wasted my life commenting you two

            Seriously now, nobodz cares tbh

          • MichiganerE

            Saying that i’m a fail when you’ve been gong along with it, k.

          • Mini

            Stating a different opinion such as this is not trolling you moron. So it’s not a fail just because I went along? hahaha
            *claps*

          • MichiganerE

            How it be an opinion if it’s a troll?

          • Mini

            I guess now you can call it trolling. But I have a smh feeling that you are actually dumb.

            I mean, how can anyone say that they trolled successfully by making a fool out of himself/herself? I love how you are putting yourself in a position where it’s fail regardless if it’s a troll message or serious message. Well, that’s the funny part though.

          • MichiganerE

            Clearly, it is trolling if I said it is.

            That’s the point, you fuck with someone to get a reaction out of them.

          • Mini

            by making a fool out of yourself at the same time? hahaha nice troll man! You really got me amused. NICE!

          • MichiganerE

            The troll was making a fool out of myself. So, there no need to be sarcastic.

  • Gamefr3akable

    It sucks that I am a part of the COD community, who bitch and whine at every change. Black Ops 3 doesn’t look appealing to me, but there is still time and I might like it. I am open for change! It looks cool, this is the first COD since MW2 where I was still confused with all changes being made. I learned that when I get confused about features, it means it is a drastic change in the GOOD way. Can’t wait, I just hate the community for what it is.

    • Kyle G

      Whining and complaining about people who are whining and complaining is just as bad as whining and complaining. Get it?

      • Gamefr3akable

        I would disagree. I am complaining that people get hyped up and don’t want any change.. which includes death threats to developers.. Is that really necessary? How does complaining about people the same as complaining about the game No logic whatsoever.

        • Kyle G

          I never said anything about them being the same. I just said that they are just as bad, meaning that it doesn’t matter what you’re complaining about, it’s still fucking annoying to read all of these comments.

          Also, if you are going to try and say that someone has “no logic whatsoever”, try and prove that. Just because you’re too much of a fucking idiot too understand it doesn’t mean that there isn’t any logic involved.

  • Blaine

    People seem to forget that BO2 had SBMM too until they dialed it back a bit after enough complaints… it’ll still be there to some degree.

    • idkwhatmynameis

      They always “forget”

    • Super029something

      I’m a fucking tryhard lil’ bitch with a 2+ k/d and I get placed against fucking morons who don’t even know how to shoot a gun.

      0 sbmm in bo2 pubs.

  • Holy shit, awhile back I thought all of this was bullcrap and just lies, but BO3 actually seems to be getting all the stuff that other cods horribly screwed up on.

    I’m genuiley wordless on how great this game may be.

  • CrowReap .

    see guys in vahn we trust

  • I’d just like a Ghillie Suit, please.

    • Hell no, that Bush Wookie suit is the fuel for campers.

  • that guy eating cereal

    will it be on the 360 or will i be on bops deaux for another year

    • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

      Blops deuce all year

      • that guy eating cereal

        sooo only xbox one and ps4?

        • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

          Yes. And Pc.

  • Im happy? I mean how much? If you remember at the beginning og BLOOPS II life cicle the SBMM was bad, later on they patched it and it was great. So did they said which version are they going for?

  • zombiefreak935

    Just watched a TmarTn video. He barely sounds hyped.

    • burrgee

      “Wtf does TmarTn know”? “He went to play a alfa build of the game”. Its not even in the beta stages yet”. “He puts up like 10 videos that we already know about”.. “If you ask me he steals his infomation from Charlie intel “The Money Grabbing Whorebag”.

    • Ryumoau

      no offense but TmarTn isn’t the first person i go to for whether or not i’ll like a game.

  • Super029something

    so many people complaining about being place against “tryhards” and shit when in reality you’re just playing ppl better than you lmao.

    When you think about it being placed with people at the same skill level as you makes sense, idk why people are so apposed to it.

  • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

    Awesome, but it shouldn’t exist period.

  • Korflock

    Cool. As long as they fix the fucking lag.

  • Tricky VIk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNj9wRvG5zs
    “For anyone interested.”

  • reamerb .

    very impressed so far ?

  • SBMM doesn’t actually help anybody as I started a new account and had 0 on all stats and the first match I was put into a lobby with all prestige level 2, 3, and 4 players probably because of the low number of new players so it doesn’t really help anybody if new players are going to get players who have been playing for a while, so there is really no need for SBMM if it doesn’t match you against your own skill because there are low numbers of players who are only just starting

    • shantzonpoint

      Just because they are prestiged doesn’t mean they are high skilled players. SBMM had been toned down in AW since launch though.

      • Yeah I know that but if a new player is starting with 0 stats then there shouldn’t be any prestige players at all but there obviously are not enough new players to match you with so if there are no new players then SBMM isn’t helping anything. But if I was a new player who had never played before then a prestige player would be much better skilled than the player who has not played AW before. I at least think they should have separate playlists, one with SBMM and normal playlist without so that people who want to play SBMM then they can

        • shantzonpoint

          I understand what you’re saying. With cod only being released on the new consoles, the player bases may be large enough to do something like this.

          Call me old school but when I first started to play cod, cod4 had been out for like 6 months. I got destroyed for months while I leaned. Eventually I could break even about every round. Then I started going positive more than not. I had to pay my dues. This whole “everybody has to be 1.0 k/d” mindset bugs me. It falls right in line with the rest of the country’s wussification that everybody has to win or can’t have their feelings hurt. Now I do realize this is just a silly video game but it fits in that category nonetheless.

  • the thing with exo suits is that when it released everybody started exo suits together so everyone had to learn at the same time so to begin with i think people weren’t very good at the exo suits to begin with when they first started the game for the first time

  • I think they should at least make a playlist of non SBMM and one with SBMM, then if it doesn’t help people’s stats then change it back why don’t they just try it and see what happens

  • W1LL1AM04

    Get ready for reverse boosting

  • Melchor

    Good!

  • Kevin Acton

    KD ratio are up on average! (did none of them think about this stat?, if the average kills goes up, so do the deaths) all this stat shows is that reverse boosting is a massive problem,and is only done to negate the sbmm system. no sbmm for public lobbys, and please improve sbmm for ranked play or league in bo3.

  • Thomas Huffman
  • 10stepsdown

    Don’t celebrate until you hear this from Treyarch or a direct representative. Some random developer hearsay from a youtuber that is compensated based on the popularity of cod is tenuous to say the least.

    Silence on a subject that is this pivotal to the community by a major corporation is almost the same as admitting that you are guilty or are not telling the whole truth.

    Be skeptical and don’t pre-order until these things are officially put in writing by a company rep.

  • Pete

    All you guys sound like idiots argueing about which one is better. Just shut up, play whichever one you prefer, and get on with it, life goes on. Ever hear the phrase “To each their own”?