Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 introduces an all new Gunsmith feature which will allow fans to customize and modfiy weapons to be more personal then ever before. The Gunsmith allows players to add camos (which are pre-set, designed by Treyarch), paint jobs (which allows players to create their own looks for weapons) from the Paintshop, and attachments. For attachments, new attachment variants exist which allow fans to modify looks of attachments; the attachment variants are unlocked within multiplayer progression. 

David Vonderhaar has confirmed that these modifications are only cosmetic. Unlike Advanced Warfare’s extensive supply drop system with variants, there’s no variants of weapons fans can create that can modify stats. Treyarch has already confirmed that Supply Drops won’t be returning in Black Ops 3. In Black Ops 3, players will be able to design their weapons, name it whatever they’d like, and push it into their Create-A-Class system. Vahn stated that the weapons will appear in Create-A-Class similarly to how variants appear in Advanced Warfare’s create-a-class system, but not exactly the same. He stated the UI/UX is different.

More details on how all multiplayer features work will be revealed soon…Activision has already confirmed Black Ops 3 multiplayer will be playable at E3. 

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  • So there’s no gun variants then? Good. It seemed like a good idea, but AW proved it was a balancing issue.

    • Freeze

      Technically with the 5+ attachments possible, there are kindof variants, you can name them and make your owm.

      • but at least there won’t be like damage increases on the weapons like AW did with the obsidian steed as an example

        • Freeze

          Yeah, I am so glad. Impossible to balance, and nearly impossible to make it fair. Which system are you going to get it for?

      • Can the names be seen in public games? I hope so 🙂

        • Freeze

          Yo se. Te gusta Call of Duty Black Ops 3?

  • British Blaze

    While I’ve still yet to formulate a proper opinion, Vonderhaar is certainly stressing that Black Ops 3 will not have all of the undesirable features of Advanced Warfare, which I am so far liking very much.

  • Freeze

    I am very glad, I am liking everything I hear, going to preorder on PSN store instead becasue the disk will never come on the day of black friday!

    • Guywithbrains

      If that disc version doesn’t come on Friday… well… you are going to wait that whole weekend and watch others play it. 😛

      I pre-order and if the game is good (now sounding awesome but I remain skeptical) I will pre-order from Gamestop and go pick it up on launch day.

      Note: my standards may be low because I liked Ghosts. *runs away*

      • Freeze

        I like ghosts, I mean I had to adapt to the totally different mentality around it but I liked it. My favorite game for infected, so much fun, I can still play infected and never be bored. I have average internet so I think the download is safer, plus I will buy my XB1 copy (If I like it enough) hard copy. (Since my PC version obv will be digital.

  • ccrows

    Still don’t get why this is a thing, when half the community is gonna use this to put penis emblems on their weapons along with weapon slur names… *SMH*

    • That’s a small part of the community. Besides, this is a fantastic idea. I’ve always wanted to make my own camo 🙂

      • Guywithbrains

        I already saw someone’s idea of making galaxy camo.

        • That sounds awesome! And I’ve heard there will be a place where you can share them too for others to use

      • ccrows

        C’Mon man, I’ve probably reported a thousand emblems in BO2 alone. (now that I think about it, it was probably more)

        It’s not that I’m offended by them, it’s just that I’m tired of seeing the same stuff over and over and over. Especially when squeakers just copy that stuff from a youtube/website guide. It just gets old fast. *sigh*

        At least be original. I won’t mark someone if they are at least original. BUT FFS how many pig-tail blowjobs, or 2 fingers by the clit, or dolphins humping something, or heck even the chocking hazard emblem with AW have we seen? Meh whatever…

        • It sounds like a cool idea :/

          • ccrows

            It’s as cool as the emblem editor, but at the same time the community ruins it… 🙁

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            Just ignore the toxic emblems. I prefer having this option than not. It gives many players the chance to share their creativity and really personalize their weapons. No point in removing the entire feature because a select few make toxic emblems imo. I can easily look past them, they don’t really bother me.

          • ccrows

            “I can easily look past them, they don’t really bother me.”

            That’s like telling people ignore the posts about SBMM around here.

            ^ Heck I even tried telling that to people here. Easier said than done…

          • Siftblade of Rivia

            No it’s not, because SBMM actually affects your gameplay. Emblems and camos have no effect at all.

          • ccrows

            You kinda missed the point, so let’s try this again.

            It was the “talking about SBMM around here itself” as in the SBMM POSTS made here.

            ^ AKA I’m 100% against SBMM, but I got a lot of S*** for talking about it here. So I told others in the past to “just ignore it”. That doesn’t work, and it bothered a lot of people, so I tapered down the SBMM discussion from what I used to be like around here…

          • I know right! Why would anyone want to get rid of a such cool feature just because some people don’t use the feature correctly. I don’t mind the ‘offensive’ stuff, I’m not even offended by them

          • ccrows

            Once again, as I said already before, I’m not offended by them it’s the offensive ones that you see at least (at the very minimum) once a day.

            It’s like this, tell me an offensive joke and 99/100 I’ll probably laugh at it. Eventually it wears off to “yeah thx but I heard it before” to you just get flat out annoyed even hearing the joke. That’s (kinda) where I’m going with this…

          • But what does it matter what other people do with them? You’ll see cool camos from ~80% of the people in the lobby and then you can just totally ignore the stupid ones. I don’t know… I don’t see anything wrong with the emblem/camo customization idea so I probably have a hard time seeing your perspective. For me it’s an awesome feature I’ve been waiting for ages.

          • Totally agree. I rather have the ability to create emblems and express yourself and whatnot than being restricted to a limited amount of emblems – which reminds me, Ghosts’ was all bad, lol.

          • justchill

            then remove the community,not the feature

          • ccrows

            Tell you what, I’m officially gonna put you in charge of telling Activision that. Let me know how that goes for ya bruh…

          • Ban Hammer needs to be stronger then.

      • >small

        I don’t think you’ve played black ops 2 much.

      • ccrows

        Tell ya what, I’ll meet you and everybody else here halfway.

        You get a warning message EVEN BEFORE you make your first emblem of what’s allowed and what’s not.

        Then you get a 2nd warning message right after that for all the ADD kids out there, just so Activision can say “Hey we already told you twice”.

        Violate it, and you lose all emblem privileges for the game per account.

        ^ Sounds like we’ve already done that before right? OK but 1 less warning, and the hope that Trey actually enforces it.

        That should make EVERYONE happy…

    • RdJokr

      That’s why there’s a report button for those immature kids.

  • Guywithbrains

    No weapon variants is awesome news. I am waiting to hear more about possible new features. Especially Safe house got my interest.

    • EJ

      Drift0r has a video on safehouse, he had hands on with the game

    • ccrows

      Makes you wonder where the MT’s money is gonna come from though?

      If it’s just weapon camo, and personalized things like jet packs ETC, that would be awesome…

    • Static_oz

      I’m not hating on all the new things Treyarch is adding. I’m sure I’ll like most of them. But what I really care about are getting into games quickly, minimal lag, HIT DETECTION, balanced weapons/classes, and last but not least but good gun fights with BOOTS ON THE GROUND ….good maps would definitely be a plus.
      I have faith in you Treyarch, make us proud!

    • Rorke File

      Hope they put in recognizable guns..

      • Kurama The Nine-Tailed Fox

        Didn’t you see the AK-12 in the trailer?

        Think I saw the AUG, G11 and M4A1 and the Remington.

        • Rorke File

          If that’s true it would be amazing to have those guns back especially the AUG.

    • Nic Carmack

      As long as exo jumping or hovering isn’t involved I might like BO3

      • grimm joww

        theres no exo suits or doulbe jumping

        • Draconeye88

          There is a boost system but not a boost dodge you still get boosted jumps and can now run along walls but yes the exos have been taken out

  • Mick

    So basically I can have a weapon and put an attachment variant on it and it won’t affect the guns stats?

    • RdJokr

      That’s basically the idea. You can change how the attachment looks, but the stats of the guns remain the same.

      • Mick

        That’s a good move by Treyarch IMO. I like how they’re not bringing back weapon variants. I want a fair, equal playing field.

        • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

          That’s not what balance means.

          • Mick

            What do you mean?

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Balance doesn’t mean either fair nor equal. Games aren’t designed to be fair and equal.

          • Mick

            I know that. What I mean is I’m glad that weapon variants aren’t back. That’s what I was trying to get at.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Alright lol just letting ya know

  • Ryumoau

    I’m really happy its only cosmetic. It would be a weapon balancing nightmare to add any stats to it. This will hopefully be a good alternative to Advanced Warfare’s supply drop loot system.

  • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

    This system look 10x times better than AW s supply drops and variants.

  • The7Reaper

    So I’ll be able to make a Tommy Gun with the drum mag sweet sign me up

  • Great, I can finally make a camo that has Vahn’s face all over it.

    • Mark

      Someone made this just after the DSR Nerf and I’ve always wanted to have this, now we finally can!

      • Michael:GodOfEWN

        10/10

    • Daniel

      I would pay 10$ for that

  • Dylan Baker

    is this on the Xbox 360?

  • Deadly Ed

    🙁 Weapon variants are one of the best things to be added to the franchise in years. I’m hoping IW has them in Ghosts 2

  • justchill1234

    the ps4 description of this game says that 1-4 players can play, meaning that split-screen is now four players

    unfortunately, the amount of network players is from 2-12, implying that there is no ground war

    • Siftblade of Rivia

      There’s 4 player coop campaign. I don’t think that’s referencing 4 player online split screen.

      • justchill

        that comes under network players, since you are playing the coop online. so that must be split screen …..

        • Siftblade of Rivia

          It’s probably 4 player split screen in local lobbies (offline), but only 2 player split screen online. BO2 did this already.

    • Ismael Khan

      Well that is certainly good to hear.

  • Slothigans

    That’s perfect. I was confused on that. I really how there are at least a few old school guns. Especially the mp5. That was a staple in the cod series. 🙁

    • MichiganerE

      Since when was the MP5 a staple weapon? It was in only 5 games. Now, the M1911 was the staple weapon.

      • Slothigans

        Ok.

  • Siftblade of Rivia

    I prefer it to be cosmetic. Weapon variants were kinda cool, but they came hand in hand with supply drops. If you give players the ability to just create their own variants, they could really exploit some of the guns. I prefer this, it’s simple.

  • Stefan Lang

    Lol for the love of God dont allow people to put emblems to cover their weapons. I dont wanna get killed by a dick covered, KKK member covered weapon in the year 2060.

    • Slothigans

      Most likely will happen anyways lol.

    • EJ

      Lmao, im look forward to materials we can use like cabon fiber. Im hoping for like a glass or crystal like material, like the blops 2 zombie camo, would look nice in red or orange.

      • Xx_ThomesAnTennksweg_xX

        Im gonna make a blue tiger style gun

    • Vikerii

      But what about Family Guy/American Dad paintshops? That would be an honor to get killed by those.

    • lulz, I guess the best thing to do is just report the guy after the match is done.

    • Drasadex

      Don’t forget the naked ladies and weed symbols along with those.

      • Smayo

        Nothing wrong with naked ladies…

        • Drasadex

          Not saying there is, but it’ll be amusing to see how many people will make a camo with one.

    • Kobrah

      If they enforce emblems as strictly as AW it shouldn’t be a problem

  • Biff Ibkus

    I hope I can just put an emblem on my gun without a whole new paint, like in BO1 and BO2.

  • JJ

    Im always happy to see more aesthetic customisation, hopefully BO3 will expand on the soldier customisations too!

    • negr

      fag

    • Xx_ThomesAnTennksweg_xX

      I want customisations out completely or have a customisation items separate for each team. Both teams should look different not the exact same.

    • Mario Rivera

      Soldier customization is really being used by tryhards to blend in corners and bushes lol. I rather see cod go back to the days of visible, pre determined uniforms like bo1. It seems every year ppl are becoming harder and harder to see and its super annoying.

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        They’re not adding character customization like AW I heard. You can change their face and such in SP though.

        • KevJumbaify .

          No

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            What? Elaborate, cut it out with the short stupid replies

          • Daniel

            You can customize your specialist but no that much

        • Tricky VIk

          “I hope they do, I like being distinguishable.”

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            No real point when you have different characters. Not a hundred percent on it, but I have a strong feeling that there won’t be much character armor customization and such.

          • Tricky VIk

            “Well, let’s hope, I like things like that.”

          • Choppabro2psn

            Yeah, because in a video tmartn uploaded, he said they’ve leaned away from it since it only benefitted other players besides yourself. That’s the purpose of paint shop and gunsmith. To deck out the thing you will constantly see on your screen most of the cod cycle: your gun.

  • Anthony

    I would much rather prefer this customization over the character customization in all honesty. It makes perfect sense because this is a FPS game and you can’t play them in 3rd person. So glad that COD has finally decided to do this, especially at the hands of Treyarch. I hope we can have lots of options to create our own gun variants besides creating our own camos. This is gonna be awesome.

    • Dangelo95

      What’s even better is we will still get hat after customization as well I bet it will be even more detailed then AW we will be able to pick the colors of our arms lags feet and more since its cybernetic enhancements we should be able to customize our look

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        You won’t be able to.

        • KevJumbaify .

          Drift0r said you can change the eye color hair, facial features, etc

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            That’s it. Not armor and such like ghosts and aw.

          • Smayo

            The specialist class you pick determines how you look right ? So no nigerian underpants etc anymore ?

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Yes. Exactly.

  • BO3 seems too perfect to be true, there has to be some sort of unguessable mess up that ruins the game for a big part of the community.

    AW it was SBMM,
    Ghosts was.. well..

    Everything, and BO2 it was quick scoping.

    • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

      Probably snipers, but other than that, there aren’t any bs attachments, no panic knifing, etc.

      • Yeah, but there’s that suttle feeling that they’re going to do something stupid, like ” by BO2 SBMM we mean before we nerfed/removed it ! “

        • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

          This’ll be the best cod period. The only bs thing I see is the Glitch ability. They’ve made a new engine, not just a new graphics engine, AKA they got rid of frame rounding, they got rid of Toughness, etc. Not sure what else there is to complain about other than snipers and Glitch.

          • Spook

            Lol what a schmuck.

    • XtremeK1ll3r

      Ghosts was the fucking riot shield with radar and c4 OMG…

      • It was kind of everything.

        For instance, you say Riot shield and C4 while others might say M27 IAR thermal suppressed Ghillie suit campers, or the weak gameplay ect.

        • AKenerly

          TTK and spawns was Ghosts real problem

        • Brenden Lewis

          For me it just got boring.
          I could stand the BS (as every COD has its BS), but it just got boring. Extinction was kind of fun, but multiplayer got stale after a while.

    • idkwhatmynameis

      Its going to be the destiny supers that everyone gets for doing nothing

      • I can definitely see that.

        • idkwhatmynameis

          The worst will be the damn hulk smash. People think aw took no skill, wait until you’re trying to cap a flag and then WHAM!!! TRIPLE FEED from some kid going 5 and 13.

          • MichiganerE
          • Aceshigh87

            On the plus side if he’s playing that bad and not playing the objective than he’ll likely only get the one ability. According to Drift0r’s pre-alpha play through if you do nothing all game you’ll get it probably once. If you’re playing the objective and doing well it’s around 2-4 times per match depending on the specialist chosen.

          • idkwhatmynameis

            My initial thought was it would be like destiny. 3 would be the average, maybe one less or one more

          • Draconeye88

            Thats fairly accurate I’ve been playing the beta and smile climb really slow if u don’t play for the odjective but much faster the more objectives you get

    • Daniel

      Bo2 was too cartoonish I couldnt stand it

      • Brandon Johnson

        You’re pretty much the only one. Have fun with Ghosts and AW haha

    • MichiganerE

      What ruined Ghosts was the lack of a fun factor.

      • Derived from multiple things, such as clans, camping, and a sea of other stuff that is much easier to say as ” everything “

        • MichiganerE

          YAW.

  • kidburman

    So what I’m hearing is no loss of Range or Damage when you use a suppressor lol

  • Dangelo95

    Black ops 3 Is shaping up to be a great call of duty if it plays like black ops 2 and the new movement is balanced we will have a very very fun year I mean come on this is treyarch I doubt they will let us down all the content they already announced for this game is way more then ghosts and AW put together and there’s still more they haven’t even announced

    • kidburman

      plus lets be honest, if everyone hated the multiplayer during the Beta they could just make it classic by default and have an “Evo” playlist

      • XtremeK1ll3r

        I think what we see from e3 multiplayer , its the same thing that we will play on beta , so people maybe starts to hate things after the e3 multiplayer and give feedback to vonderhaar before the beta

  • jordanxbrookes

    Good.

  • Its really awesome that they are implementing such a customization system since basically one’s gun is everything (you get to see it when you play matches unlike your own character – though, I wouldn’t mind BOTH). On a side note, does anyone know if clan tags will be etched on guns like BO1 did? Dunno why in BO2 it was removed.

    • Aceshigh87

      It wasn’t removed? If you prestiged your weapon once you got the clan tag and twice you got your emblem.

      • Maybe I am blind but if you can link me to a vid or picture that would be great…

    • Erick

      It was never removed from BO2, what are you talking about? You can have both your clantag and emblem on your gun.

  • Thank god. Variants made for unbalanced gameplay and bullshit. I am all for cosmetic customization though.

  • Choppabro2psn

    Awe so I can’t make AK12 “speakeasy” variant? ?

  • Choppabro2psn

    This is seriously great news though. Sick of op variants, ridiculously unfair gunfight loses and supply drops. Great riddance AW

  • Choppabro2psn

    Does this mean we get to create our own variants, without stats changes? Like can you make them with pre built attachments?

    Example:
    You have a base….let’s say an94. You take it to gunsmith. Put rapid fire on it. In comparison to the base an94, that’s now a created variant right?

    • Thomas Huffman

      Correct

      • Choppabro2psn

        Than an94 (should they have it) speakeasy here I come.

  • forrest1985

    Whilst not a fantastic game, Ghost Recons gunsmith is the way forward! The long barrel’s/stocks etc..allowed players to make their own variants. CIA black ops customise their own weapons and whilst we have moved away from grounded “realistic” setting, surely treyarch would want to allow players maximum choice in their guns? Some gamers will want a giant pair of tits on their stock, whereas some of us would like to make a marksman and CQB version of same gun for different settings. Hopefully the extra attachment points will have more impact.

  • Gorudensukaji

    I always felt that black ops as the strongest cod, then I yearned for a futuristic cod, then black ops 2 which again I thought was one of the best (obviously excluding cod 4 because that rocked) then I yearned for something not futuristic because that shit is everywhere now, however future is still the next black ops, and its that bullcrappy postapocolyptic shit where everything had hot the fan and every area in the game is covered in dust and rubble, I’m actually sick of seeing this setting now, if they wanted to go future again, go waaay out there, like mass effect or halo kind of future, its time cod stopped mapping itself to plausibility, because for anyone who’s played their campaigns, they ain’t that. DESPITE this criticism of time zone, treyarch has probably (in my opinion) made the best COD’s, in terms of both multiplayer and story, and while modernwarefare made the most money, black ops always had the balls to be different. Advanced warfare in my eyes was kind of innovative with its exo’s but it made for a laggy frustrating game of who shoots first, with no map strongpoints or strategy in combat other then jumping around like a douche. Black ops 3 is the first cid with a REAL co op campaign, FREE on disc Zombies and the ability to get creative with emblem editor and gunsmith, so I hope it lives up to it. And while AW had emblem editor, the emblems are not as easily accessible to view so no one bothers with it. Ghosts.. Was well.. Ghosts.. This should be the COD worth waiting for.

  • scrotesmd

    Treyarch have always been my fave developer for Cod, really hopefull on this one. For me the killer on AW was the terrible spawns, TDM is unreal for spawing right beside the guy who just killed you just to get killed agian, I cant understand their thinking on the spawsn on AW.

  • Cadence

    I wouldn’t mind stat changes if they properly balanced them. They could start you out with a base variant and let you increase or decrease any stat you want. To save your gun you have to balance it out like in AW. Stuff like hipfire spread and sprint out time would cost 1 point, reload speed (+15% quicker per level) and accuracy would be 2 points, and damage would cost 4 points to go up 1 level. And you can’t go up or down more than 3 in any one category. That’s how I’d balance it anyhow. Skilled players might make an unbeatable CQB -3 damage gun with super fast reloads and pinpoint hipfiring. Or you could make a powerful and accurate rifle with LMG ADS speeds and hipfire. Gotta give something to get something.

    They could make it work, but I’d rather have no stat changes than unbalanced ones like in AW.

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  • scrotesmd

    I’m getting variants in supply drops is this true?

  • scrotesmd

    OK so its just cosmetic saw a video from chaos silemcer