David Vonderhaar has confirmed on Twitter that Black Ops 3’s Domination mode will not have the neutralizing flags ability that was in previous Call of Duty games, including Ghosts and Advanced Warfare. Vahn states that because of having no time limit anymore, it does not work as well with it.


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  • FURST!!! I has me sweg back!!

    • Davy Crockett

      Happy B’day ScOott!

  • KJ

    fuck that

  • Davy Crockett

    It makes sense in public matches with no time limit, because if you remember back in cod4. You could get into lobbies that no one capped flags on and just boost for days and get all your achievements and stuff. However, for competitive I hope they add an option in there to neutralize.

    • TehShadewRaeper

      Domination won’t be a competitive game mode in BO3. The only reason it was a competitive gamemode in Ghosts was because IW didn’t care about competitive CoD

      • Davy Crockett

        Maybe not for MLG, but it can still be played in private matches as comp. The more options the better.

  • Ryumoau

    I sadly never even tried Domination during the beta (mainly from fear of losing lobby access in other modes). But i will in the full game. 🙂

    • ScOott

      Fear of what :-s

      • Ryumoau

        ps4 networking was really strange the first couple days of the beta and it was hard to get into new lobbies once you left one.

        • ScOott

          Didn’t realise was such problems. I didn’t have anything like that .. (Saying that I missed the first day of the beta and some of the second, due to beyond shit Internet)

      • Tricky VIk

        “Happy birthday.”

        • ScOott

          “Thanks”

      • Gooby

        hppi brithad fgt

        • ScOott

          Dank yew.

    • TehShadewRaeper

      The one thing that needs to be fixed is the spawns. Other than that it was a blast to play

    • Dr. Salim

      The only thing I played was dom.

  • TehShadewRaeper

    I like this idea. This makes flags easier to capture. Making it easier to play the objective. In the past CoDs noted above especially during AW with it being so fast pace it was near impossible to capture a b flag by yourself because it takes so long.

  • Brad

    1) Who gives a shit 2) This is not news

    • Ak74u

      I. Then why bother post a comment
      2. It’s still worth the feed back
      3. GTFO

    • jordanxbrookes

      1) Many people that are interested in Black Ops 3 do.
      2) It is if it’s something confirmed or announced.

      • Brad

        This was known in the beta and from e3 gameplay news is something that is “new” hence the word “news”

        • ccrows

          Neutralizing flags was something that people were hoping that would get changed elsewhere, and Vahn confirmed that he’s keeping it the same.

          Although I’m kinda confused why you still clicked on and commented on this article (twice mind you) if you don’t care…

        • jordanxbrookes

          Yeah but it wasn’t confirmed for the final build of the game. Things change between the Pre-Alpha stage, Alpha stage, Beta stage and the Gold stage. That’s why you sometimes might see things in trailers that weren’t available in the final game.

    • jdc

      Hey Brad

      • jdc

        Hey Brad!

        • jdc

          HEY! BRAD!!!!

          • jdc

            EAT A _ ICK

  • jordanxbrookes

    I’m ok with this. It was a nice addition to Call of Duty: Ghosts (preferred it in Ghosts over AW since Ghosts had more of a tactical pace) but if it didn’t play right, then there’s no point to it.

    • CrowReap .

      what is better in your opinion ghosts or aw? I liked ghosts because it made sense meaning there wasn’t shit all over the place unlike aw no order at all, complete chaos.

      • xboxisdead

        So just because you stink at AW it sucks? And what the hell does shit all over mean? AW was brought to us because all the fans complained about wanting something new and we got it and now all of a sudden it sucks or its chaos

        • Poptart_Fister

          He’s talking about the jet packs. I played cod since the cod 4 days and I could tell you aw is garbage my kd was a 2.54. Ghosts is easily better and in all honesty ghosts is one of my favourite cods :3

          • EnderZ

            We all need distance. When the dust settles 4/5 months after BO3. AW will rank in the top 5 as best COD ever made. Story mode was great, real story you could follow. Not the hodge podge shite with Markov. AW after game support was not good, but the game is. Its a fast game that does not forgive fools and campers. If U wanna learn cod history not the nostalgia of ur youthful memories watch this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=4&v=AvN51r1o1Nc
            Enjoy!

          • Kit Carson

            idiot

          • EnderZ

            Which one R U Kit, a Fool or a Camper? Let me guess…

        • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

          Lol here comes the famous excuse of the fanboys: if you don t like a game, you suck at it. Lol

          • w

            This. Such terrible logic.

        • jordanxbrookes

          It’s not because he’s a bad player, it’s the fact the game is literallly shit. None of us wanted a silly double jumping gimmick in Call of Duty.

          • a

            Except for you

      • jordanxbrookes

        Between Ghosts and Advanced Warfare, I much prefer Ghosts.

        • I really wished IW would release an optimization patch for all consoles (Current gen at least). Both PS4 and xOne have terrible frame rate issues and animation bugs. :/

  • Talk about scraping the barrel for BO3 news. This is poor content for CI.

    • Better than nothing!

    • Kobrah

      Better then them just making shit up

    • Drasadex

      I suppose CI could always make something up.

  • Diego Diniz

    I think there is a better way to “fix” it.
    If you capture the flag ALONE..you got MORE POINTS…like +250 or 300 pts
    “ALONE WOLF”

    • That actually is a pretty good idea…

    • Ak74u

      Yes! I hate it when I’m the only one capping flags and my teammates put no effort into getting them. I hate it when I’m so close then just die because my teammates don’t help for shit

    • jdc

      HELL YES!!! Get tired of joining lobbies in DOM where most my team is only concerned with their KD

      • Scott Cox

        I have asked activision tryarch vondehaar and anywhere i could find to post to give extra points if you cap alone it never gets heard

    • Tricky VIk

      “Then, they’d think up strategies like, leaving one person to cap said flag while the rest go out to destroy and hold back opposing team.”

    • ccrows

      This, I’m actually disappointed that you can’t neutralize a flag, because it hurts randoms that play against clans.

      I mean I can play BOTH slayer and OBJ in AW at the same time, but I shouldn’t have to. I should be able to do one or the other, but often find myself doing both.

      ^ & honestly I don’t care which role I play, but I just hate having to do both…

    • Eddie Tupy

      this would give more incentive

    • Xx_COLSEY_xX

      This is a really smart idea. I hate capturing flags on myself, therefore Treyarch should add in when someone captures a flag by themselves they should be rewarded with +100 points. But the worst part is when you’ve almost captured the flag and then team mate jumps on it on the last second. Or when you’re capturing flag on your own and just before you capture it, an enemy kills you. That sends me insane

    • Kurama The Nine-Tailed Fox

      That is a seriously good idea. Keshav please DM David Vonderhaar this idea, he needs to know.

      • Diego Diniz

        I dont speak english very well. Send a Tweet to Vahn explain this. Its really a good idea and since MW2 this is my desire playing Domination.

    • Carlos Correia

      Better yet. 6 members equals 600pts so for each member cap you would get the remaining points. Example: 3 members cap each one would get 200xp. Of course if other team members are on another flag xp are divided. Main thought is how many team members are capping at the same time. Because you could have members defending the flag and whos capping outside the flag and they get the kill xp

    • condorado

      Great odea. Also hoping on last second should be less points

    • hungryandrew

      Excellent idea!!! “Lone Wolf Capture”

    • That’s a great idea dude. Definitely not 300 points, but 250 sounds good.

    • Argy

      That doesn’t work too well when you consider one person might almost get the flag then the teammate jumps on and bam, you lose extra points for sitting there the whole time. But currently the system is pretty broken anyway considering how many extra points it hands out when comparing a team capping the flag to a solo individual… They need to come up with a flag score value and then divide it based on time on the flag per person when capped.

      • Scott Cox

        It would great if you get points for every second your alone http://www.xfinity.com/505on flag like it does for uav just add 5 points a second if alone or 4 if you got a teammate they can make it work like that, they just have to give enough extra points to make it desirable to do so and a bonus at end of you cap it

        • Argy

          They way it should work is they should have “potential points” which is basically if you make the cap, you get all the potential points added. Then they could base the amount you get on how long you were on the flag… So like while you are waiting, you can watch the PP adding up, then when it caps you see them added.

  • JoZer805g

    Kind of wish they removes rounds from Dom, want the classic Domination back.

    • Dr. Salim

      Round based dom is more balanced IMO.

    • Ak74u

      Rounds is better because it gives the other team a chance to come back if they’re getting dominated. Then on the second round they won’t have to suffer if they are getting murdered the first round

    • jordanxbrookes

      Round-based Domination is more balanced for both teams, but I do prefer classic Domination.

    • ccrows

      I could go either way TBH, but usually got a laugh when somebody on the other team accidently called in a high end scorestreak at halftime… 😉

  • Kyle Soule

    Cant wait to see how Domination is like without a time limit.

    • Dr. Salim

      It was in the beta.

      • Kyle Soule

        I didn’t get to play the beta 🙁

    • Fly Mann13

      It never had a time limit in the first place

      • MichiganerE

        It did in BO2 and I believe AW.

      • Kyle Soule

        Im pretty sure it did.

        • Fly Mann13

          My bad there was none for ghosts, at least that was what i saw the last time i played it

    • SuperImpact

      Play MW3

      • Kyle Soule

        Mw3 had no time limit?

  • Ak74u

    We already knew this so its not really “New news,” but I think it’s still something worth posting in case anyone wants to suggest a change but I think it is fine either way to have flags nutreualized or not. I would prefer neutralize but since there is no time limit for the second round it’s better to not be able to neutralize them because games will take way longer.

    • Yankeephil

      There’s no time limit for either round, the first round is till a team has 100 points and the second round is till a team has 200

      • Ak74u

        I know I meant no time limit on both rounds but same thing

  • Greasy Neckbeard

    Domination is looking really good for BO3

  • I kinda always thought the neutralizing thingy was pretty good. But it’s also something so little, so I don’t mind that it is gone

  • Stefan Lang

    Hurts my heart when I look at the Calendar and we still have to go through October ?

    • ccrows

      Meh I still enjoy playing A-Dub.

      Although since I have the digital free upgrade for Ghosts I plan to play Ghosts the week before BO3 comes out since I won’t hopefully play as Captain Commando as I was in the beta…

  • Gooby

    @disqus_C2tLIIb3kr:disqus hppi brithad fgt

  • Yankeephil

    You could essentially nuetralize the flags and have the game last forever with no time limit

    • Bloodyman2103

      I think MW2 also didn’t have a time limit in Domination. We once tried to let the game last forever by capturing no flags at all. But eventually the match got cancelled, so I think you never would be able to get the game last forever.

  • Guywithbrains

    Great. Now I have to try capturing flag alone and when I have nearly got it then someone tosses C4 or shoots me from window. And then enemy keeps B flag until match ends to clear loss. But I see those reasons that made them keep this system rather than having neutralized flags.

    Another thing is that I prefer classic domination. I think round based domination is stupid but that is just me.

  • Eddie Tupy

    so how long does it take to cap the flag? Does it take as long as if it had neutralizing, or is it half as long now that neutralizing is gone?

    I think id prefer if it is the latter.

  • GTA V

    So this will fix the gun mechanics. Finally. Thanks Von.

  • Kobrah

    During BOII I thought flag neutralising would be a good idea, but since Ghosts and AW i think I prefered it as it was

  • Danz

    No solo caps anymore for fuook sake

  • xboxisdead

    Need to fix the spawns

  • Yankeephil

    They need to fix the B Flag locations, they sucked in all the maps. Too wide open and almost impossible to steal it

  • W1LL1AM04

    This is really gonna suck for Randoms

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  • Gary

    In domination there should be more points for points less for kills because there are a lot of K/D whores in the games and less actual taking of points.