David Vonderhaar has confirmed on Twitter that Black Ops 3 multiplayer will not feature a separate playlist without the new movement system in the game.


Black Ops 3’s new movement system includes the new thrust jumps, power slides, and more. Vahn says this new movement system in integrated within the game, and it is not possible to remove it.

For Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare, Sledgehammer Games did implement a traditional playlist without the Exo movement system for players that did not want to play with the Exos.

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  • Thomas the TankSwag

    Furst

  • Duke of hazard

    I guess that makes sense. I don’t think there’s any need. They made it to where the movements aren’t spammed like AW and more traditional so that’s fine by me.

    • Devin Wolfe

      The movements in AW had a cooldown so no you couldn’t spam them as you say.

  • Brian

    Shame

  • SECOND

    second

  • I’m fine with this, the new movement isn’t that bad anyway.

    • RdJokr

      Yeah, people just like to blow things out of proportion. As soon as they see someone jumping a bit higher than usual, they go “wahwah Exo boost iz bak”

      • Devin Wolfe

        Implying EXO boost was even that hard to combat.

      • Jessica Because

        Ermuhgerd itz Titanfer guise plz stahp

  • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

    You don t even need to boost in the air to be successful and wall running just puts you in disadvantage for the most time so I too believe that playlist is unnecessary .

    • Guywithbrains

      My experience during the beta as well. All of my gunfights happened on the ground OR underwater (and it is awesome by the way).

      • Danzzy

        But you can get some dirty jumpshots though 😛

    • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

      I agree. Wall-running, albeit a tad gimmicky, only exists for maneuverability, or shortcuts. It’s not a big deal.

    • Siftblade

      I barely used the movement and did great, so I would agree. Hopefully it’s like that when the game releases.

  • a_required_field

    Poor bo3, already messing up

    • Why do you say that?

    • Thomas the TankSwag

      It makes sense, theres many places that would be inaccessible without wallrunning and thrust. If you dont like the movements or where cod is going, then go play battlefield or an older cod

      • Guywithbrains

        He has 14 options to choose from if he wants to play Call of Duty game that has classic movement. Or then he could wait for Ghosts 2 that most likely has classic movement system. Or he could go and play any other first person shooter on market such as Battlefield games where he has 9 options to choose from. Or he could wait for Battlefield 5.

        ^ I checked before posting so that makes total of 25 first person shooters from only two first person shooter series. Then you have all other first person shooters but I don’t have time to list them here. 😛

    • Drasadex

      How?

    • shantzonpoint

      You can still be effective in bo3 without boosting or wallruning. You wont be able to utilize entire maps but so what. Play bo3 however you want and still help your team.

      • Johtoboy

        Or don’t buy BO3 altogether because you don’t support these changes that are killing cod. Besides I already own Destiny, close enough.

  • jordanxbrookes

    From my time with the Beta, the maps and advanced movement don’t seem too forcing which is good. One thing I didn’t like with AW was the maps catering too much to the exo movement i.e. “Verticality” so even though I played in the Classic Playlist, the maps didn’t feel right.

    • Thomas the TankSwag

      There were places where you needed to thrust but it looked natural in the map rather than just having height for the sake of it like in AW

      • jordanxbrookes

        I know, but it’s not like you’re thrusting 30 feet in the air all the time. Like you said, it felt natural and fluent.

        • Devin Wolfe

          AW felt fluid to me I don’t know about you but I could go from one end of the map to the other without effort

    • Stefan Lang

      Terrace was fucking aids

      • jordanxbrookes

        Agreed, although it looked great aesthetically.

      • spartanelite

        Which on was that one again?

        • Jessica Because

          Reminded me of Piazza on MW3 but worse because all the damn flying.

      • SuperImpact

        one of the worst maps EVER bro

      • Jewpacabra

        Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfucking speakeasys, on this motherfucking Terrace!

    • RdJokr

      Classic players never knew what nightmare was until they played Perplex. Truly a terrifying experience without Exo movement.

  • Guywithbrains

    Treyarch really trusts their new advanced movement in Black Ops 3. This just tells that they are sure new movement mechanic will be liked and seems like many people already like it, me included.

    Of course final judgement will be after release when we see how the whole community is going to use that movement system (assuming all didn’t participate in the beta).

    • The only thing that I didn’t like while playing the beta was the poor FPS performance that I got

      • Kobrah

        I would be surprised if it isn’t fixed for the final release

        • RdJokr

          #InPCDevWeTrust

      • Danzzy

        And when you ADS with a sniper and it moves faster that Bolt :/

        • Jessica Because

          Well, if you think about it. Looking down a scope magnifies everything and when you do that with something so high powered, well you’re gonna sway like a mofo. But I can understand because CoD has always been fairly arcade-style and an easy ADS vision goes hand in hand.

    • ItzSikh

      you dumb ass most gunfights are on ground or underwater, its not like everyone is going to spam wall run. JESUS!

      • Guywithbrains

        Wait… I didn’t even claim that.

        • ItzSikh

          claim what? If you have played BETA then you should know that 95% is boots on ground or underwater for gunfights rather than wall running or boost jumping plus the jump really isn’t that useful most ofthe times than in AW

          • ItzSikh

            of the *

          • SoulTaker

            You sound angry…

          • ItzSikh

            nah just my key board that screwed up the last sentence.

        • ItzSikh

          its just kids plus they will get destroyed most of the time if they wall run

  • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

    Not a big deal. The movement isn’t chaotic, nor a hindrance, I think it’s actually beneficial.

    • Johtoboy

      It IS more chaotic than not having any advanced movements at all. So, a net downgrade.

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        You’ll have to elaborate, because that claim doesn’t click with me. Boost Jumps in Advanced Warfare made everything far too chaotic for the function well.

        • Johtoboy

          Wallrunning. When you can flank around nearly the entirety of a map without being seen, that is introducing chaos. Thrusts too, if you get some air before turning the corner, you will be able to get the drop on your enemies. Moreso than past CoDs where the highest jump was three feet off the ground. Wallrun and THEN jump, you can get some crazy air.

          Movement will not be the thing that kills Black Ops 3, but the added pinch of chaos and the fact that maps must now be designed around this brand new mechanic (the reason Nuketown is going to be remade) is not a positive thing in my book. I’m sure some people will love to master the wallrunning and thrusting and sliding about, but I am not a fan.

          • darren

            Did you play the beta? Or are all of your statements based on assumptions? To me, the new mechanics aren’t scary. Nor were they, when I actually played it. People will complain either way. It’s easy to be contradictory. It’s the easiest way to come off like you have an opinion.

          • Johtoboy

            I’m just saying I prefer classic movement. It’s smoother. That’s my opinion, GTFO if you don’t like it.

          • Johtoboy

            Oh and I did play the beta and watch as I obliterate this dude when I leap around the corner.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qQHi7rwd-U

            In a normal COD, there is atleast a 50% chance I die in that scenario.

          • Jessica Because

            Are you replying to yourself?

          • darren

            Yup, that’s your opinion. You’re entitled to that. But I’m not? Whatever Dood. Rather than answer the questions, you’d rather tell me to fuck off. I wonder why that is?

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Unlike AW where they poorly designed the levels for the Exo Suits and purposely made the maps far too vertical and made the gunfights too random, I think that BO3’s chaos is far less exaggerated, in comparison. The movements don’t affect the actual gunfights, they exist for maneuverability, or traversal. Different paths.

          • AZninjassassin

            Why were you even arguing with some 12 year old? It’s impossible to win cause they don’t listen to reason

          • Devin Wolfe

            Even “chaos” has order there is always a method to the madness you just have to not be a dipfuck and you’ll notice it.

        • Devin Wolfe

          How was it chaotic? I mean really after 8 prestiges the game was predictable everything had a pattern everything had a choke point I don’t see how people couldn’t learn that.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            You know what chaotic means, right? AW is a clusterfuck.

          • Devin Wolfe

            I know it’s a subjective term so no AW is not chaotic it has it’s own rhythm you just have to find it.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            There’s no rythm. The game is random chaos and the boosts are too quick.

          • Devin Wolfe

            LULZ have you even tried to learn or do you want a FPS to hold you hand all the time you console pleb? It’s like you have never played a arena shooter everything has a pattern and a rhythm and it is your job to find them and if you can’t it is your fault for being simple minded not the game. Every single person I see complaining about how unpredictable AW has the basic intellect I’v come to expect from chimpanzees. I mean holy shit no one anymore wants to think in their game they all want it to be something like Angry Birds or something.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Are you retarded? You can’t play Advanced Warfare and say this bullshit like “It has a rhythm LULZ console pleb.” It doesn’t matter what platform you play the game on, the game is shit, get over it. People don’t complain because they’re bad at the game. Say that to all the reviewers that have critiqued CoD. Are they speaking positively only because they’re good at the game? That’s your logic. No. If you played AW, you’d understand. There is no ‘rhythm” because the maps have no flow to give it any. Arena games have good maps to play on. AW has pointless rooftops that people camp on top of. So no, “PC PLEB LULZ,” my criticism is valid, your elementary insults, however, are not, so come back when you’re not salty over someone’s opinion.

          • Devin Wolfe

            “Are you retarded?”
            LULZ is that all you got? And yes it does matter what platform you play on TotalBuscuit liked the multiplayer and he is a very hard man to please and guess what he’s mainly PC while all the people that hate it are console kiddies like yourself from the sounds of it. And yes people do complain and call a game bad if they are bad at it, it’s how this new generation of gamers are it’s how this whole fucking gaming community is but you wouldn’t know that because you have your head so far up your own ass you don’t notice a thing. I bet the only “reviewers” you watch are people like Angry Joe who bitch about everything under the sun eh? And FYI I have played AW till 8th prestige and I only stopped because it got boring and predictable no matter how you want to say it isn’t it is every map has a choke point a high traffic area and a outskirt area for the lone wolves to go and get kills from. You know nothing about the game because as I said you never took the time to actually use your damn brain for something other than breathing. And it’s not your opinion when you try to push it as fact, when you do it becomes shit not like it wasn’t shit already because of the aforementioned autism you seem to have.

            Game set match, do not pass go do not collect $200 you’re done son get the fuck out of here kid.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Typical PC piece of shit. What makes me think I can take you seriously? Why should I give a shit about Total Biscuit when he’s biased? I don’t care if he likes the Multiplayer, his tastes must be poor. Funny how you say all this bullshit when CoD is a console game and it’s meant to be played casually. Sorry I didn’t pay out the ass for a pointless PC that does nothing.

          • Devin Wolfe

            LULZ you’re so easy to rustle. And the only thing he is biased towards is goo gameplay, Graphics options and FPS. Yeah it’s an arcade game but that doesn’t mean you can be a brain dead autistic piece of shit that drools on the controller. You have to actually think. And my PC does things that make my PS4 and Xbox One jealous. So as I said get the fuck out of here as you know nothing about what you are talking about.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            No, TotalBiscuit is biased towards PC in-general. It’s an Arcade game not meant to be taken seriously. They tried to turn into something else, hence the issue. How good a player is shouldn’t matter. It’s about fun. Advanced Warfare isn’t fun. Get over it. PC can’t make the PS4 and Xbox One “jealous.” It can do things that they can’t, if you pay an arm and a leg for it. You’re basically paying an arm and a leg for games that are dead on your platform. I feel bad for you. I completely know what I’m talking about. Again, I have a few days put into the game. I know and completely understand the Advanced Warfare experience, and it is shit. Advanced Warfare is shit and so is Sledgehammer Games. Acquire some taste in gaming and come back.

          • Devin Wolfe

            If you don’t play to win then you don’t deserve to play the game as you waste my time when we lose. And yes how good they are should matter if you’re going to brag about being good then back it up. You’re very ignorant as expected of a console kiddie. and no you can get a gaming PC for about $700 as I said you know nothing. “Taste in gaming ” you mean calling games you don’t like shit LULZ nice “taste” you have autist.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Your opinions are absolutely pathetic. I don’t boast about how good I am at a game because it’s irrelevant. It takes a genuine idiot to make a completely generalizing statement about someone’s preference. You’re implying that $700 isn’t even expensive. How stupid. Yeah, Advanced Warfare IS shit, and a vast chunk of the community agrees, you’re among the minority of idiotic fanboys. Congratulations, you like the worst CoD ever. Stop wasting your time trolling and play Advanced Chorefare and grow up, you PC filth.

          • Devin Wolfe

            Not really if you play a game be good at it and tell everyone about it be proud of it. $700 is nothing I spent $1700 and that was with all my parts on sale. Oh look its more shitty opinion and no it’s not a vast chunk its a very small vocal minority. Not a fan boy I just play games and enjoy them unlike yourself who thinks games have to be catered to them and to a dumbed down experience. Implying I’m trolling dear god how did you ever make it past conception none of what I’v said is trolling.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            And no, I mean mainstream reviewers, who give the games 9’s everywhere. AW sucks. Get over it.

          • Devin Wolfe

            “I don’t know how to play this game and it makes it bad” Damn how much of and autist are you? I better give you water wings before you drown in a bowl of soup.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Only blind fanboys say such narrow-minded bullshit. Don’t be such an ignoramus. Maybe you shouldn’t assume things about people you don’t know? I put a few days into the game. I know how to play it. It’s objectively flawed, get over it. If a professional reviewer criticizes a game, are they just bad at it? Come back when you can think logically and rationally, you PC elitist plebeian.

          • Devin Wolfe

            Anybody that says that something is “objectively flawed” is a insecure little man child that didn’t get enough of attention as a kid. And yes they can be bad at the game and for some reason being bad at a game means the game is bad in todays day and age of gaming. “Logically and rationally” says the one who tries to push his opinion as an objective fact as I said you know nothing.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Resorting to personal insults, the number one sign of a troll.

          • Devin Wolfe

            Says the one passing his opinion off as fact LULZ.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            They’re a mix of opinion and fact, actually. “LULZ.” Just leave.

          • Devin Wolfe

            “fact”

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Yeah, fact. Evidence is shown through in-depth looks of its metagame. By your logic, you only like it because it appeals to your playstyle: rooftop camping. Congratulations. Just don’t force me to like what YOU like.

          • Devin Wolfe

            No I like it because it lets me move like I want and it doesn’t cater to campers like you think. I’m not forcing you to like what I like but I will call you out on your bullshit opinions about a above average game.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Oh, and you’re an insensitive little prick who thinks it’s okay to make fun of people with mental illnesses. Dogshit PC elitist plebeian filth.

          • Devin Wolfe
          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Thanks for confirming that you’re a troll. Now leave.

          • Devin Wolfe
  • ToonToons22

    Well, there are some places in the map that can’t be accessed without the thrust jumps and wall running. Taking out those movements kills the ability to reach those places, not to mention the ability to play strategically. I say keep the new movements.

  • Remember when everyone playing AW said that it would be hard going back to boots on ground because they got used to boost jumps. Pepperidge farm remembers.

    • Jewpacabra

      Here you go! Have a like! ?

  • J4MES

    A classic playlist is not needed anyway. People who didn’t want to use the boost jumps in Advanced Warfare just went back to playing Black Ops 2 instead. I’m not sure how populated the classic playlists were due to Sledgehammer’s player count censorship but it didn’t seem very many and many of the maps weren’t built for it. The movement in BO3 seems more ground-based with minimal jumping like a typical COD game as opposed to persistent jumps/boosts we were doing in AW. I barely jumped or did wallrunning on the beta as it wasn’t forced on the player due to map design.

  • Drasadex

    I don’t think the game would feel quite right without the new movements anyway, so good move there.

  • Michael Romo

    Can I thrust jump into those dms Vondy? ?

  • Dr. Salim

    The map Combine would be horrible w/o thrusters. It would cut off an entire lane of the map.

    • Brad of Duty

      The map Combine is horrible even with thrusters

      • ToonToons22

        Really? Combine was one of my favorite maps.

    • DEMOLITION12

      nobody goes that way anyway

  • Skillreks

    I agree with this. only maybe twice was I killed by someone who was thrust jumping. this is because you have to HOLD the jump button to go up, unlike AW where you just double tapped a button and you could aim all you wanted and shot

  • Brad of Duty

    Good

  • Mick

    Good. I think the playlist would be unecessary because most of the action takes place on the ground. The movement IMO is great. Better than AW.

    • Devin Wolfe

      What is so great about boots on the ground it’s boring as all hell. We’ve been playing boots on ground since the early 2000’s and it gets repetitive.

  • Jordan Rosenwinkel

    I agree with this, but I would like a playlist without specialist abilities.

    • shantzonpoint

      I’m not a huge fan of specialists either but I can live with them as long as they aren’t too OP.

    • ItzSikh

      they really are just to make the game more exciting, if you’ve played destiny you would understand how fun it is to use them plus specialists are there so that it makes it hard to get nuclear medal so camping isn’t viable most of the time.

      • Jordan Rosenwinkel

        Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the specialists. Although the I think it will be hard to balance them all. I would just like an optional more classic playlist. I get annoyed by everyone running around with 1 hit kill weapons.

      • Johtoboy

        Freebie kills from supers are only fun for noobs who can’t get kills in the first place. If you’re good why would you want to use OP guns you did nothing to earn?

        • ItzSikh

          bruh!? thats why they are balancing the guns plus the super in BO3 are supposed to be game changing both tactically and offensively also the weapon super don’t have aim assist on most of them.

        • darren

          There are no guaranteed freebie kills with the specialists, so how is that OP? Regardless, they aren’t even OP.

          • Johtoboy

            It depends on your perspective. More powerful than any Create a Class item = OP to me. I never thought they belonged in the game at all. But hey, if you’re okay with all the BS deaths, who am I to rain on your parade.

          • DeadZombieGaming 12

            It makes the game more fun. You can still counter them… by dodging.

      • travis

        and this is why cod continues to go downhill…they feel the need to please the people who also play destiny, halo, borderlands,titanfall etc with giving them similar gameplay instead of just being traditional call of duty, which ended a few years ago.

        • ItzSikh

          well why don’t you tell the community to stop bitching about change, not everyone has played the BETA for sure so no one know how specialists play plus since you guys got change at least adapt to it, everyone fears changes but if you actually give it a go you will like it plus specialists don’t make the game broken its how you play the game to make it broken.

  • CoDforever

    you cant even access some areas of the map without thrust jumping.

    • LLORT

      Shut up camper

  • Stefan Lang

    Thats how it should be. People need to adapt. This game is 95% boots on the ground combat. Jumpshooting with the thrust jump isnt even that practical tbh.

    • Devin Wolfe

      Boots on the ground was boring and still is that’s why we are getting these new movement systems.

  • Daniel

    The movement is amazing, I just miss the dolphin dive

    • Greasy Neckbeard

      R.I.P. PHD flopper

      • Joshwoocool

        when you dive to prone it’s gonna shake ya to the bone all the zombies gonna groan cause of phd

        • MadDeanM

          They neverm mentioned Zombies havingt he new movement and by the looks of what we have seen from the trailers I don’t think the new movement is in zombies, so hopefully by my thoughts dolphin dive into a bunch a zombies and boom PHD is back

      • The Flash

        PHD was found in the leaked beta files, think it will return as PHD Slider

  • AW needed it, but BO3 was fine in the Beta. As long as Zombies stays clear of the jump boost, should be a-ok

    • Devin Wolfe

      AW didn’t need it it only had it because of the vocal minority that don’t know how to learn or adapt to a new playstyle and want a game to hold your hand every step of the way.

  • SoulTaker

    Good. In my opinion a classic playlist would just make the population thin out even more. If you guys are iffy about buying it because of the game mechanics wait a few months watch the reviews, see what the main problems are and then weigh your options hell you might even get a discount if you wait till Christmas it’s a double win.
    🙂

    • Jon

      Christmas NOOBS…….yum yum

  • GinsuVictim

    I enjoyed classic playlist in AW until they made it a moshpit. Now it’s all sweaty camping.

  • This actually was confirmed a while ago. Anyway, as others have stated, this game is mainly played on the ground anyway, so there is really no need to disable the movement. Those who didn’t play the beta have nothing to worry about.

  • Dwayne

    I know the ground attack was much better AVw sucked black ops 3 looks more authentic can’t wait till it drops

    • Devin Wolfe

      Wut?

  • nathan ramsey

    Who doesnt want to wallrun and shit that is fuckin awsome

    • Devin Wolfe

      But “MEH CLASSIC COD FEEL MUH TRADITIONAL SHOOTER MUH BOOTS ON THE GROUND” these are the people that hate anything new and the ones killing the gaming industry.

  • Ryumoau

    Makes sense to me. No one played the classic mode in AW and i really see no point in spending $60 on the game and not use the gameplay mechanics the game was designed to use.

  • W1LL1AM04

    At least AW had this playlist. :/

  • Deadlydog1998

    At least he can give a good reason

  • David Cooke

    does this mean the new movements will be in zombies too? if they can’t be disabled… boost jumping in zombies 😐

    • Yankeephil

      Zombies won’t have boost jumping that we know of, but it would be cool to have 1 zombies map with wall running

    • DeadZombieGaming 12

      Only advanced movement in Zombies will be Sliding. Not the Black Ops 3 powerslide

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  • Aaron

    Wow, Treyarch. You guys really dropped the ball with this. I’m canceling my pre-order and will just stick with Black Ops 2. The thrust movement in BO3 and exo suits in AW are total crap and why I have no interest in the games.

  • Ed

    Sounds like the movements arent spammed but surprised theres no disable option