UPDATE: Activision has updated to reveal that for the multiplayer mode, the game will run between 30 to 60FPS, but for Shadows of Evil Zombies, the game will run at 30FPS.

The multiplayer mode on PS3 and Xbox 360 will scale between 30- 60 FPS, while the frame rate in Zombies mode is 30 FPS.

Developer Beenox, speaking to Develop-Online, has stated that Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 on PS3 and Xbox 360 will run at 30 frames per second.

“I’d say that we tried to hit that target [60fps],” Beenox Creative Director Thomas Wilson said. “It becomes harder when you’re working on current gen platforms.”

“We’re basically looking more at something like 30fps. But still, the experience is very enjoyable, otherwise it’s not Call of Duty.”

Activision announced earlier that the game would not have a campaign mode on last-gen. Wilson says the complexity of the campaign made it difficult to bring it to last-gen, and they had to remove other features as well.

“What we do is we basically, step by step, reduce the polycounts on each asset, reduce the amount of memory that each effects will take, and then eventually we make sure that we maintain that core experience intact,” he said.
“The challenge really is to make that fit in memory, make sure that the experience is good and that you have a great frame rate. So there’s always a big challenge in doing that because of course the main developer will try to make the most kick-ass new-gen game possible. We don’t want them to think about constraints, we want them to go out there and have fun.”

Beenox Team is working with independent developer Mercenary Technology to bring Black Ops 3 to the PS3 and Xbox 360. Black Ops 3 on PS3 and Xbox 360 retails for $49.99 and includes multiplayer and zombies mode only. However, there are certain MP features – like the Paint Shop and eSports features – that are not available.

Treyarch is developing the title exclusively for PS4, Xbox One, and PC. The game runs at 1080p/60FPS on PS4, 4K (or more depending upon configuration)/60FPS (or higher based upon configuration) on PC, and to-be-announced resolution/60FPS on Xbox One.

SOURCE: Develop-Online via @Long_Sensation

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  • MaZerN

    fuck last gen!

    • FazalGaming

      How can you say fuck to all those good memories

      • MaZerN

        memories are memories, im saying fuck to bad graphics

        • And I’m saying fuck graphic whores

          • Twiggytyre

            Amen

        • GinsuVictim

          FPS is a performance issue more than a graphics issue.

          • MaZerN

            well, the ps3 and 360 cant perform because black ops 3 is made for this gen and not last

          • GinsuVictim

            They were porting to 360/PS3, so the game they were making was for those systems, not current gen. A competent team probably could’ve handled it, but Activision cheaped out on it.

          • Drei

            beenox is shit lmao, activision OVERLY cheaped out. the only good port beenox has ever made was the THUG port for PC

  • MaZerN

    furts and secund

    • ccrows

      Third… 🙂

  • KK5

    Beef incoming

  • Stefan Lang

    Looool. They should have just cancelled on last gen. When it was announced I kept telling my girlfriend I was gonna get her an Xbox One in time and I did cause I know how much she loves the Treyarch campaigns. Lucky her, this is even more of a blow.

  • RdJokr

    HAH. What did I tell you. This shit was bound to happen. BO2 was barely holding 60 FPS on last gen. No way they could pull off 60 with BO3.

    Seriously, anyone who still wants to buy BO3 last gen port after this, you guys have forfeited your right to complain.

    • PuddingAuxRais1ns

      BO2 actually held up 60hz excellently on 360. The PS3 also maintained 60hz very well, although it struggled to do so more than the 360.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIY7zCssueY

      • RdJokr

        I was referring more to campaign, but you get the idea.

        • PuddingAuxRais1ns

          Yea the frame rate in campaign is notably worse than it is in multiplayer, which makes the 30fps target for BO3 even more baffling. BO3 probably won’t look any better than BO2 while running at half the frame rate.

    • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

      BO2 was mainly 40 FPS.

    • PuddingAuxRais1ns

      My exact reaction. If I were still on last gen, I’d just stick with BO2 or maybe even Ghosts. As far as I’m concerned, BO3 isn’t even CoD on last gen anymore.

      • Logic Chief

        Or just buy a next gen console xb1 will be dropping to 280 by this Christmas

        • You can sell your 360 at Best Buy and they’ll take $150 off the price of an Xbox One. Only works if you’re purchasing an Xbox One though.

          • Logic Chief

            I got a 360 last black Friday for $150. A 500gb harddrive came with ghosts and bo2 sold the games both for like $50 I know I can get $100 for 500gb console

          • I don’t need a 360 anymore now that Backwards compatibility is slowly making its way onto Xbox One.

          • just drank bleach

            Even though that is true, sucks that big names like Activision and Rockstar aren’t supporting it.

          • Logic Chief

            Well Activision wants money they want to sell them treyarch bundles and infinty ward bundles for $60 plus

          • They are supporting it. They’re still releasing games on Last Gen aren’t they? Rockstar released GTAV and Activision has released Destiny and all the CODs on last gen so far :p

          • just drank bleach

            No, I was talking about the backwards compatibility for the xbone.

          • Well, not yet at least. You never know what the future holds.

      • If I was still on Last Gen I’d cry myself to sleep every night.

        • ScOott

          Jeez man your current gen console sure does mean a lot to you ..

          • I just want the best Console experience. Sorry it bothers you 🙂

          • ScOott

            It doesn’t bother me 🙂

          • HomePolecat96

            Boy you better be glad you’re a console player then XD. You seem like the type of guy who would spend thousands of dollars every year to try to keep a top of the line PC. Lel

          • Nah, a great PC can last a few years. I’d wait to upgrade anything in it, if needed

          • HomePolecat96

            Hehe good…I love PC graphics as much as the next geek but my friend literally buys all the best upgrades as soon as they come out…it’s ridiculous XD.

          • I could probably do that but a PC is so different and much better than a console so I can wait.

          • Tuby

            I think he handjob himself each day and schoot his load on his console so glad is he.

          • Tuby

            You sound like a creepy guy who handjob himself and schoot his load on the console. I also have a current gen console but who cares….

          • Not sure how you got that opinion of me.

          • Big

            Lol bro

          • Tuby

            Yes he is a cry baby. Probally al the day a booner when he thinks of his current gen console

        • Elvin menie

          It’s just a fucking game nerd.

          • I’m sorry you’re angry.

          • Eddie Tupy

            jesus christ these guys are fucking asshats dont give into their trolling/jealousy/hate.

            i cant believe these people took what you said as a direct attack against them. actually wtf am i saying this is a cod comment section lol

        • Booce

          Well then kid you must have a really awkward obsession with that “next gen” console of yours

    • Dangelo95

      I work at a gamestop and more then likely will be working the midnight im going to cringe when I see someone buying it for last gen I’m actually afraid to see what it looks and plays like

      • My local gamestop always holds a COD tournament. Random teammate 2v2 and you play for first place. If you win you get a discount for which ever version of the game you payed for. You should suggest to do that at your store and instead of playing BO3 on Current Gen make the people waiting play the Last Gen version lmao

        • Dangelo95

          That’s actually a good idea hopefully I can pull something together or I can make it even worse for them and have a AW tournament boy would that be so harsh lmaoo

        • anonymousbro

          and the losers leave the store to a local bricks and mortar and get the game tax free.

      • ccrows

        Think FPS with GTAV on prev gen…

      • Speaking of gamestop, i recently refunded Destiny and Alien Isolation and wow, i’ve never seen a employee try their hardest not to give me my 48$ back.

        He spent like 10 mins checking the games, rescanning and rescanning and called like 10 other gamestops to see if the price dropped or something like that.

        When he gave me my money i looked back while leaving and he hung his head like he was in shame.

        • Dangelo95

          well I just started my full time job is at a Home Depot this is just to pick up some extra cash for the holiday season but I wouldn’t of done that inwouldnof gave your money back no problem he must of wanted you to pick up something else or add the funds to your rewards card

        • JoZer805g

          I check on the Gamestop and check both cash and in-store credit value. Trading in both games would be like somewhat $15 or $16

          • I said refund, not trade in.

          • JoZer805g

            k.

          • If you don’t get me, if you buy a game you can refund it, but only within the week.

          • JoZer805g

            Yeah, I get it

    • jordanxbrookes

      Exactly my reaction lmao.

      • ScOott

        You ever pre ordered online at game? it says it takes two working days, I won’t get my copy till Tuesday :-/ I dink eye myt cri ;-(

        • jordanxbrookes

          Yes, but it always arrives on the morning the game is released for me.

          • ScOott

            Aghh, I’m going to lose the plot if you lot are playing it.. N I’m stuck twiddling my thumbs .. Sounds promising tho ..

        • Iamyoureviltwin

          I pre ordered Aw from game last year and it came on release day so you should be alright there mate.

          • ScOott

            Thanks 🙂

    • SPAWNST4R

      that’s pretty much what PC owners do when they read about PS4/XB1 only being 60FPS/upscaled 900p ! So yeah.

  • There’s no way they can release another Call of Duty on Last Gen after this one. It’s a waste of time and money.

    • MichiganerE

      Agreed, I see this as the final CoD game for last gen. Because honestly, it would be a surprise if CoD 2016 were to end up on last gen when Black Ops 3 is already pushing the 360 and PS3 beyond their limits.

  • LovekillerX

    Okay this is unacceptable… CoD has always been 60 fps on last gen. I feel sorry for those who bought last gen version but I’m not going to lose my mind. At least you get your version of Black Ops 3.

    • jordanxbrookes

      Technically Call of Duty 3 was ranged from 30fps to 60fps depending on animations and how much is on screen at once, but from Call of Duty 4 and onwards yeah.

      • Stif Meister

        Bro, I’m all for being a stickler but CoD 4 and onwards were the only relevant CoDs.

        • jordanxbrookes

          I know, but you can’t forget the early ones.

      • why do ppl do sh– like this

        you literally said this just to be an asshole

        • GinsuVictim

          How does that work? He didn’t say anything that makes him look like an asshole.

    • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

      They shouldn’t . There are some poor minds out there that just feel ok with gettin f*cked in the a** and paying a similar price of a next gen version.

      • LovekillerX

        And how it is your problem if they get f*cked in the a**?

        • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

          It s not. It s their problem. I wouldn t pay 50 $ for a game this bad, no matter which game it is. And tbh that s the right decision in my eyes. But again, I was just sharing my opinion , as I always do .

    • Tommy

      Totally agree. Will it look worse then black ops 2 ?

      • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

        Probably.

        • Tommy

          I find it strange they cant run it at 60 because also aw had 60 fps. But wr will see still hope it will play good

    • SoulTaker

      It’s unacceptable that a 2015 game can’t run on outdated hardware???

      • ZappyKins

        The Xbox 360 came out in 2005 – so more like 15 year old hardware! (PS3 the follow year 2006).

        • jordanxbrookes

          Someone can’t do Maths *facepalm*

        • Colin MacKenzie

          2015-2005= what?

          • ZappyKins

            Sorry, I was thinking of original Xbox (2001) with year 200 0tech.

  • DeadZombieGaming 12

    People on lastgen will rage now…

  • Choppabro2psn

    I feel for these guys. But to be honest, I’d say Ghosts was the last well made cod for last gen. AW is abysmal on previous gen. It’s like the whole game is saying “fuck you, upgrade, or suffer” . On top of that, it’s a shitty cod, so they get both shitty ends of one stick.

    • They can’t help it. The console can’t fit everything the game has. It’s not like the Devs are saying, “and we’re going to add this feature so Last Gen cannot have it! Muahahahaha!”. No, they’re just making a game and hoping most features can fit in Last Gen to make it a fun experience. That being said, fuck last gen and buy a new console/PC. Muahahahaha.

      • FazalGaming

        A lot of people can’t afford it man. They need to pay for bills and stuff. My brother’s son really wants a PS4 but my brother can’t buy it because they are struggling for money and even on food stamps.

      • ScOott

        Honestly you sound like a moron, u make us current gen owners look bad, no wonder they don’t want to upgrade if the new console community is full of dicks lol..

        • I was explaining that it’s not the Developers fault the Last Gen version isn’t up to participate with Current Gen and doing so in a joking manner.

          • ScOott

            You are always ready to ” pack -a-punch” at the poor old gen user, give them a break ?

          • I’m not going to lie to them. Last Gen sucks now. I cant hold their hand and saying everything is alright. That’s not me.

          • ScOott

            Neither am I, but I’m not going to post gifs laughing at them lol.

          • Boo hoo.

          • GinsuVictim

            “last gen sucks now”
            You were born in ’96…I get it now.

          • What does me being born in 96 have to do with anything? I got a PS3 in 06 and a 360 in 2010. I’ve experienced Last Gen very well and it does in fact suck now. As it should be expected too. Nothing can last forever. Your comment made absolute no sense.

          • GinsuVictim

            You haven’t lived through console generation switches really. I’ve got every console I’ve ever owned since Atari 2600. I’ve been through many changeovers and your attitude is terrible toward gaming. You don’t just throw away the previous gen because something new comes along.

          • I lived through the PS2/Xbox shift to PS3/360. That was an insane switch. The graphics were incredible. I’m not throwing away last gen, I’m saying theres not point to support it after BO3 because the farther we go the more features it’ll lack. You don’t see devs making games for N64 or PS2 still do you? At some point every console has a point were it becones obsolete to the newer console. Doesn’t mean you cant still play it, but to say the old consoles still deserve new games still is ridiculous. This is the last year the 360/PS3 will get AAA support. It’s a cycle that has happened since the dawn of video game console creation. To say my attitude toward gaming is terrible is incredibly false. I absolutely love video games and everything about them, but I don’t live in a fantasy world that everything will be alright and Last Gen will get all the pleasures that PCs and Current Gen consoles get. I’m realistic towards this kind of stuff. The truth hurts sometimes and I’m not going to lie and say everything will be okay and how dare Activision fuck Last Gen like this. They should be thankful B03 is even coming to PS3/360, because like I said I truly believe this is the last year for COD on Last Gen. I hate people that think everything should be fair. Life isn’t fair. I understand if people can’t afford a new console or PC. That’s perfectly understandable, but the people who think they deserve the same royaltype as Current Gen and PC are insane. It’s not physically possible with out the PS4/X1/PC version being just as reduced like the PS3/360 version. To say I didn’t live through console changes is once again a doltish assumption that you only said because you were salty about me laughing at the Last Gen version of this game. Good day sir

          • GinsuVictim

            I never implied last gen should get anything at this point. You calling last gen garbage was what I took issue with. You enjoyed it all this time, but you sounded like you were shitting on it. Thanks for the clarification.

        • One Russian’s Revenge

          “Yep, I got my feelings hurted.”

          • ScOott

            Don’t worry about dicks on here man, u still going to buy it ?

          • I’m assuming I’m one of those “dicks” since you can’t seem to understand a joke.

          • ScOott

            It’s not really a joke for these people tho is it .. So there for you are being a dick to people on last gen ..

          • I’m laughing more at the fact that the last gen game is going to be awful. Not at them. I do feel bad for them, but these people keep acting like they’re the victim.

          • One Russian’s Revenge

            “Sadly no, I really want a PS4, to not skimp on the stuff I’d be missing.”

      • Choppabro2psn

        Well, I understand that much, but at this point, one expects that every time the current gen gets an update for Black ops 3 about more content, it’ll come with news that previous gen is missing something else lol.

    • Keshav Bhat

      To be honest with you, the reason why Ghosts was good on all platforms was because one developer made it for all. Infinity Ward made the game (with Raven/Neversoft) for PS4, Xbox One, PC, PS3, Xbox 360. With one developer managing it all, it was easier to make it work well. With outsourcing and porting, it’s a lot more difficult. SHGames sends assets to High Moon, and then High Moon had to adjust it for last-gen. Not that easy. Same for this title; Treyarch makes game, sends over to Beenox/Mercenary, and they have to bring it down to fit limitations of last-gen.

      • Choppabro2psn

        I see.

  • Guywithbrains

    Call of Duty has always been about decent graphics (Advanced Warfare exception) with 60 frames per second. So because of this news I feel sorry for old gen users. However, I stay behind my words about needing to upgrade

  • Logic Chief

    Halo less then a week away lets go boys 9gb day one patch for multiplayer but.

    • ScOott

      Campaign the only thing I was intrested in due to split screen, and they got rid of it (No buy for me) .. I only have room for one multiplayer .. BO3 for the win

      • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

        I heard Halo 5’s Campaign was a disappointment.

        • ScOott

          Halo campaigns have never had anything good to start with in the first place, infact I would go as far as saying you won’t find a worse story on current gen.. But what made them fun was the fact u could sit down with a buddy/wife and blast your way through it.. It’s pretty rare these days for a split screen campagin, Now they have taken away the one thing that made the campagin decent … Now it’s just a dull fps with some boring space story(that doesn’t make much sense)

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Yeah, I’m with you. Halo sucks, imo. Especially the 343 ones. Glad Black Ops 3 has split-screen, and Co-Op Campaign on split-screen, no less.

        • spartanelite

          Hasn’t even come out lol plus multiplayer look pretty good

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            It’s what GAF users are saying.

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            And how does its Multiplayer look ‘good’? Just play DOOM, it has classic Arena gameplay.

          • spartanelite

            Halo has area too but DOOM did catch my eye so I might check it out

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            I’d recommend DOOM OVER Halo, though. It’s almost the exact same game. It even has a Forge-like mode. Not going to play that Halo shit now.

          • spartanelite

            Never played it looks good too its kinds of confusion it had pentgrams and stuff but thyre on mars

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            DOOM is the epitome of the genre… It’s far better than boring ass Halo.

          • spartanelite

            Thats opinion lol

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            You liking it is also an opinion. DOOM revolutionized the genre. Halo did not.

          • spartanelite

            The first middle of the screen shot gun doom that’s a classic but halo lead the way in the MP section

          • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

            Not really. Quake and Unreal did that. Halo didn’t do much, if anything, at all. At least in my opinion. But my negative Halo opinions are a bit biased so there’s not a whole lot to convince me.

      • spartanelite

        No Split screen no buy that’s a stupid reason considering split screen annoyed the fuck out of me while playing I preferred just taking turns instead

        • ScOott

          I Went and got a 60 inch TV just for split screen, the game it’s self isn’t worth playing alone imo, it’s a very poor series’s as far as campagin goes .. If u can tell me the story so far in your own words I would be suprised ..

          • spartanelite

            Well that’s not true at all There’s been a good amount of memorable parts in the entire halo series also you legit answered for me in the last part of your comment,didn’t even let me answer, anyway imo was emils death scean favorite and the final mission but those are just mine

          • ScOott

            Ok il put it another way, if Nathan Drake died in uncharted, I would feel it, when Dom died in Gears of War u felt something for him, if the little girl was to die in The last of us, you would feel something.. Many many years and if master chief was killed off and replaced would anyone care ? .. I played the master chief collection, all back to back. N the only character that jumped out was cortarna, I think it’s very bland world .. Just my opinion tho .. So many better xbox exclusives than halo ..

          • GinsuVictim

            I own all the Halos and still don’t know why. It’s like, OH, I have an Xbox, I should own Halo, but then I play them and just go….why?

          • ScOott

            I’m glad I’m not the only one that doesn’t get what all the fuss is about ?

          • GinsuVictim

            I mean, at least Halo 4 added a CoD style control layout as an option, but I tried it online and was bored after two or three matches.

          • spartanelite

            That’s funny considering it’s basically the main Xbox game lol and that would probably be more opinion based on how you’d feel

          • ScOott

            Yh like I said just my opinion, I would rather see a dead rising 4, sunset overdrive 2.. It might not be a popular opinion but it’s mine ..

          • spartanelite

            Ahh now I’d love to get those game’s too they be definitely be on my to get list 😀 but fps are my thing

    • ccrows

      Halo? I’d rather play BO3 on prev gen…

    • just drank bleach

      I played halo 4 and thought it was shitty, not so sure about halo 5, I feel like halo 5 will be a disaster on release.

    • jordanxbrookes

      Can’t wait for Halo 5. Not long now 😀

      • Koolz

        I got the limited edition preordered. Hypeeee!

  • Dangelo95

    Seth Rollins couldn’t of put it any better…but seriously just put the $50 you’d spend on last gen and put it towards a ps4/ONE

  • just drank bleach

    Meh, I can deal with it.

  • MichiganerE

    I had a feeling that this would happen. Also, to those who are thinking about buying the game for last-gen, are you sure that you still want to?

  • spartanelite

    I’m done but “why can’t they do this on last gen, I don’t understand” Lol just cancel it its done it doesn’t even have a campaign and it runs at 30 fps too just no oh my

    • ccrows

      It’s called “Prev gen turns 10”, and sadly for those still there it’s over.

      Seriously Ghosts, no Ground War
      AW no DLC Weapons past Season Pass.

      BO3, hey Activision will still take your money, but it’s gonna cost you in more ways than one…

      • spartanelite

        I mean they’re not hiding anything even Activision know its not they’re fault they know cheap people will buy it and you can’t blame them for that thyre not hiding it of you buy it you know what you’re getting

  • Mick

    Lol. Sucks for last gen. They expect something good but keeps getting let down. Last gen users, save your money for a new gen console for the future. Don’t buy this on last gen. It’s a waste of your hard earned money.

    • FazalGaming

      Agreed, I know a lot of people can’t afford the upgrade to next gen but they should skip out this game because their is no point in getting this on last gen, they are losing their money. They could be $60 ($100 if they buy season pass aswell) closer to next gen.

      • Kobrah

        There is no season pass for last gen

      • Mick

        I understand that people out money towards their house, kids, car, etc. but they’ve had 2 years to save up for a console. Or who knows, maybe there’s people out there who will only stick with last gen and never move on. Just know, games will no longer be produced anymore on last gen in the coming years so either way they gotta move up to current gen.

  • Superstar Wrestler

    At this point, they should just scrap last gen version.

  • lunator100hd .

    If i buy digitally bo3 on xbox one, will i have it on xbox 360 with the same acount?

    • EnderZ

      No. Two different versions of the game.

      • lunator100hd .

        ok thanks.

  • If you’re on last gen there is literally no point in getting this game in my opinion

  • RdJokr

    Oh and Keshav, might wanna do some editing. PC can run 4K+ resolution/60+ FPS as long as the hardware is capable 🙂

    • FazalGaming

      Would a gtx 980 be able to run 4K 60fps?

      • RdJokr

        One GTX 980 probably won’t be enough unless you lower some settings. Two should be more than capable.

        • FazalGaming

          Would a titan x be worth it? I heard its more for video producing than gaming.

          • RdJokr

            One Titan X is probably enough to get decent frame rates at 4K. That thing is overkill.

          • FazalGaming

            What about a titan z 😀

          • RdJokr

            This shit can be Googled, you know…

          • FazalGaming

            Yeah, but, having you tell me is much more easier

          • ScOott

            You and SoulTaker have the reputation of p.c experts… Need advice on p.c talk to Rdjokr, forget Google this guy knows everything .. only your self to blame :-p .. Maybe start charging for your advice ?

          • RdJokr

            I wouldn’t say I know everything. I just know how to Google things.

          • SoulTaker

            I wouldn’t say I know everything either I just know how to Google shit and learn from there man. :p

          • jordanxbrookes

            Should be fine.

          • FazalGaming

            Thanks

    • Keshav Bhat

      edited wording. hopefully that clarifies it up a bit

      • RdJokr

        Nice!

  • Viral Echo

    Really glad I upgraded this year

  • Thomas Perakovic

    But I thought 30fps and 60fps where the same thing? Bwhahah

    >consoles

  • GinsuVictim

    Well, that seals it. I’m cancelling that pre-order. I was fine with lower quality graphics and less features, but 30 fps….I can’t do it. That’s not CoD.
    I’ll just pirate it on PS3 now.

    • ccrows

      It’s time to upgrade.

      Prev gen turns 10 years old this year, it’s time to upgrade…

      • GinsuVictim

        Not buying a new console for a few more years.

        • Keshav Bhat

          So you’re okay with not playing Call of Duty anymore? Cause the way it’s looking, Black Ops 3 seems to be the last CoD for last-gen. With all these sacrifices made, seems hard for them to want to bring IW’s game to last-gen next year. Doesn’t make much sense anymore…

          • GinsuVictim

            The population is still huge on last gen. I play CoD4-AW with plenty of people, especially BO2 (obviously some of them will be leaving).

          • Keshav Bhat

            Meant to say the “newest” Call of Duty.

          • GinsuVictim

            Yeah, I’m fine with that. I wasn’t playing the “current” game until Ghosts anyway. During Black Ops II, I was playing MW, MW2, and BO.

          • shantzonpoint

            I think bo2 is still big because many think it’s the last good cod. Many next Gen owners still play it on their old systems. Bo2 numbers will plummet once bo3 is released.

          • GinsuVictim

            And if they don’t like BO3, they’ll come back.

          • shantzonpoint

            Yes they will but I don’t see that happening. Judging by what I thought of the beta, I think majority of bo2 players will like bo3. Don’t you?

          • GinsuVictim

            No clue, I didn’t have a way of playing the beta, so I wouldn’t know. The footage I saw showed a fun game, but I can tell that some people won’t be happy with it.

        • ccrows

          By that time next gen will be out, and you might as well skip current gen…

          • GinsuVictim

            The generations keep getting longer. I’m not worried.

          • ccrows

            It won’t be the same for current gen. As soon as 4K becomes affordable for consoles and TVs, current gen will be over.

            ^ That’s literally the only thing that kept current gen from being the giant “leap” that we’ve seen in the past…

          • GinsuVictim

            I don’t think a lot of people would be as quick to make the leap to a next gen if it came out in only a few years. They would feel like they just bought their new console not that long ago.

          • ccrows

            Flat screen TVs became dirt cheap a few BFs ago, 2-4 years from now people will be doing the same with 4K TVs on BF, and the console hardware will be the same in year 2.

            ^ There’s NO WAY that you are going to get 10+ years out of current gen…

    • just drank bleach

      30, 60…who cares, I want the game to be fun, that’s all I care about.

      • GinsuVictim

        At 30fps, it won’t feel like CoD. 30fps is the reason I won’t play a lot of online shooters. CoD got it right.

        • just drank bleach

          What you should do is buy a pre-owned at gamestop, you have 7 days to try it out and return it, you can get your money back within the 7 days

          • GinsuVictim

            I already said how I’ll play it for free.

          • just drank bleach

            Good luck I guess. *shrugs*

        • Tommy

          Hope it still looks like bo 2 and im fine

          • GinsuVictim

            “Looks like” is one thing, but it won’t “run like”

          • Tommy

            What you exactly mean with running. Is that the performance of the game ? I thought fps was for grapics. Cant you play a shooters at 30 fps on a console ? Aw run ast least on 60 fps why bo 3 cant..

          • GinsuVictim

            If you cut the framerate in half, you introduce input lag and choppiness….neither of which are good for CoD.

          • Tuby

            Hmmm that did not sound good. But why not 60 fps with lower grapics. Even aw did not look great on PS 3 but is still playable

          • ccrows

            It can “look” like it, but it’s gonna be choppy AF…

    • spartanelite

      Won’t be anything to pirate once they realize its trash and cancel it,no campaign no dlc,just shelf them already don’t see why you’re defending it,I assume you know how technology works

      • GinsuVictim

        I’m not defending it. It’s bullshit. Cancelling my pre-order is the opposite of defending it.

  • ccrows

    Let’s see stick with Current Gen at 60FPS and Puketown, or buy prev gen again and never have to deal with Puketown.

    *Hmmmm* That’s almost a tie now… 🙁

    • lunator100hd .

      We havent see yet bo3 version of nuketown so calm down. The game at its core is not broken like bo2 (at least that’s how it appeared in the beta) so that alone might save nuketown from being a clusterfuck.

      • ccrows

        “The game at its core is not broken like bo2 (at least that’s how it appeared in the beta)”

        ^ Nah brah, lag comp was HORRIBLE in the beta.

        I may need to subscribe to Netflix again just to play this game if Treyarch doesn’t fix that BS… <_<

        • lunator100hd .

          Im not saying was perfect but was def a step forward if you compare it with bo2 for sure. BO2 was garbage hands down.

          • ccrows

            You may think BO2 was garbage, but it had the best weapon balance in the entire series (which includes my beloved COD4) hands down…

          • lunator100hd .

            When a game has a broken netcode with trash hit detection then not even the best weapon balance in the world could save it.

          • ccrows

            What you want Ghosts Netcode so you can’t tell the difference between Core and Hardcore, and everybody camps in corners because the gameplay is basically hardcore?…

          • DEMOLITION12

            absolutely
            ghosts did it right

          • ccrows

            *facedesk* 🙁

          • DEMOLITION12

            no you’re right, there should be a delay purposely implemented to make it so you have to reload every 2 kills like bo1 lol of course

      • ccrows

        “We havent see yet bo3 version of nuketown so calm down.”

        Unless Nuketown gets tripled in size, it’s gonna be the same BS as BO2.

        ^ And why would Treyarch expand it when that would piss Squeakers off.

        *sigh* Whatever, give me the highest ROF SMG, add specialists and, let’s do the same thing over and over and over and *leaves the lobby………. Host Migration* and over and over and over and…

        • Guywithbrains

          Actually they have said they want to keep Nuk3town as small map so they are able to keep faster gameplay from earlier versions of Nuketown.

          • ccrows

            *sigh* I know, and I hope that they don’t add that BS map into the rotation until after the DLC maps come out.

            ^ Nah better yet, here’s to hoping that Treyarch treats Nuketown like SH did with Atlas Gorge and NEVER adds that POS map into the rotation…

          • lunator100hd .

            Atlas Gorge is added into the rotation mate.

          • ccrows

            Only if you bought the season pass.

            It’s not like BO2’s Nuketown or Ghosts Free Fall where they just gave it away for free.

            ^ I would actually delete my season pass if they did the same with Nuketown in BO3, just to avoid playing it every 8 out of 10 matches…

          • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

            I think there should an option where you activate and deactivate nuketown in match making, if that was possible of course.

          • ccrows

            I wish I could give you a +100 for that comment!…

          • One Russian’s Revenge

            “It’d be nice if they opened the section where the barricade cuts it off to the actual testing gate and all the backyards from each side, it’d seem fun (at least to me).”

          • GinsuVictim

            It would at least help the spawns.

          • One Russian’s Revenge

            “Yes, it would, and it’d be fun.”

        • lunator100hd .

          Have you played the original(bo1) nuketown? IT has the same exactly size and it works fine. And its laughable if you think that SMGs was the problem, this map was ruined by snipers like the entire game.

          • GinsuVictim

            Spawn-camping was my biggest issue in both versions of the map.

          • ccrows

            Ummmm yeah and the OG Nuketown was fine (sans Famas)

            Bo2, give me Lightweight + Scorpian + Rapid Fire and go 3.) KD for days. Boring AF.

            ^ Nuketown is the perfect example of why Reskin maps FAIL!… (add Firing Range, Summit, Courtyard, Highrise, and Dome to that mix too)

          • DEMOLITION12

            nobody in bo2 used snipers… you are delusional negative kd retard

          • Guywithbrains

            I am speechless. I hope you are sarcastic.

          • DEMOLITION12

            why are you trying to play it off like it’s true? in mw2 everyone used snipers, that is true, but in bo2… lol

          • GinsuVictim

            So, your trolling method is to just say the opposite of reality? Put more effort in it, man!

          • DEMOLITION12

            i bet you think everybody used shotguns too and in ghosts used IEDs LOL

          • GinsuVictim

            Ok, it’s as I said. No more wasting time with you.

          • DEMOLITION12

            you have no argument, you just say stupid shit to make it seem like you fit in
            i bet you think “ghosts SUCKS” too

          • One Russian’s Revenge

            “Made me laugh, nice one.”

          • GinsuVictim

            Is that a joke?

          • ccrows

            DSR? DSR Nerf Death Threats?

            Did you even play BO2 brah?…

          • lunator100hd .

            Thats 100% true.

          • Kobrah

            Obvious

    • LovekillerX

      I’m already waiting for Nuketown 24/7 in normal playlists! /s

    • RdJokr

      If one map is going to turn you away from the rest of what could be the best COD game yet, then there’s something wrong with you my friend.

      • lunator100hd .

        “the best COD game yet”???

        • GinsuVictim

          He said COULD BE.

          • lunator100hd .

            There is no possibility for this game to beat the ”real” cods like cod 4 or mw2 but will be better than ghosts/aw.

          • GinsuVictim

            COULD BE the best CoD for him, not you or me, but for some people, it will be.

          • ccrows

            MW2 as a real COD?

            Right, that’s why West and Zampela left before fixing (at least) half the BS in that game, and yes they had months to do so before they got fired.

            They just well didn’t give a S*** since they were too busy poaching… lol

          • One Russian’s Revenge

            “I wonder if he considers it a ‘real’ CoD because of what the simplicity, or because it was skyrocketing back then, maybe cause there wasn’t as much content as games now these days? No my friend that’s not how it works, what he feels is nostalgia, and he is in kind of a denial state, no hope my friend, let’s let him be..”

        • Jenish Katuwal
          • jooker-jr

            But here’s the thing : they must work, yes, most of us will say that the MP was good if not great, but we don’t about anything else

            Tell the launch of bo3, cod 4, cod 2, cod 6, bo1 and bo2 will be considered the best in the series ( this is not my list but I think I covered most of the community )

        • QuickzZ-_-GhosT

          What s the competition for first place ? An 8 yr old game with limited content and a small inferior version of BO3 ? And don t even try the MW2 trump card, Bo3 was already better than that in it s beta.

          • lunator100hd .

            MW2 will always be the most fun cod ever made.

          • ccrows

            and the most broken too…

          • lunator100hd .

            No it wasent broken at all, the game functions good even now, the only reason it has this bad reputation is because of these stupid noob tubes. Back in time when i was playing on ps3 i didnt face this problem but everyone in the internet was biching about it, i feel like only xbox community had this sort of problem because ppl liked to exploit it.

          • jordanxbrookes

            Bro did you seriously say MW2 isn’t broken? Clearly you haven’t played it, everyone knows MW2 was broken as hell. I describe MW2 as “Broken Fun”.

          • lunator100hd .

            MW2 is not broken, actually its a shame to call ”broken” a game like this. The hit detection was great , net code almost perfect and lag comp was better than any ather cod, if you call mw2 broken then every online shooter in the world is broken. It had some op shit like noob tubes/danger close combo or comando pro and thats why it was kind of ubalanced but it wasnt broken by any means. If you wanna talk about broken games then the cake goes to bo2 big time.

          • Kobrah

            I can’t tell if you are serious or trolling

      • ccrows

        BO2 was my 2nd favorite COD (after COD4) but Nuketown and squeakers picking it every singing time it came up (and then leaving the lobby to find more Nuketown lobbies) was still broken AF…

        • Guywithbrains

          I noticed the same. No Nuketown 2025 or Hijacked meant rage quit from lobby for many players.

          Nuketown 2025 and Hijacked are good maps for Free for All and modes like that. But when it comes to objective modes… it turns into a clusterf*ck and 10 minutes pubstomping.

          • GinsuVictim

            They just wanted the easy kills. Sit on spawns and shoot fish in a barrel. BORING!

    • Stefan Lang

      Why dont you like Nuketown? I love it. Definitely not my fave though but its a great way of ranking up. If you have a good team you’ll pretty much win every game of Dom, HP, and Demo.

  • I can only imagine how shit zombies is going to be on last gen

  • GTA V

    Lmfao

    • GinsuVictim

      Oh boy, you’re here….

  • GTA V

    Last Gen will run potato.

    • lunator100hd .

      Toaster>potato>last gen.

  • jooker-jr

    Nope, just a BIG NOPE !

  • Implying last gen cods actually consistently hit 60fps.

    • GinsuVictim

      Stayed close at least. It wasn’t 30 for damn sure!

    • Vicsupreme

      All other CoDs do

  • DEMOLITION12

    LOOOL

  • ccv83b

    i think it’s a great news !!!. finally besides same old engine the game fidelity, features etc. are improved to that point where ps3/360 can’t mantain 60fps…. finally

    • GinsuVictim

      Yes, it bodes well for current gen owners who thought for some reason the last gen title would hold them back.

      • Vicsupreme

        It still does hold next gen back. Instead of Beenox wasting there time and resources making a shit port for your broke cheap ass, they could be helping treyarch polish the game up right now.

        • GinsuVictim

          That wouldn’t even be an option.

          • Vicsupreme

            are you retarded?

          • GinsuVictim

            Why would they hire some shit team to help them? They were hired to port a game (which they couldn’t even manage), not help Treyarch.

          • Vicsupreme

            No, you’re decade old hardware is shit, don’t blame the devs kid. Beenox could’ve assisted treyarch just as RavenSoftware assists infinity ward and sledgehammer CODs. Accept it kid, your hardware is shitty and old and it’s time to upgrade.

          • GinsuVictim

            I love getting called kid by someone I guarantee is younger than me.

          • Drei

            actually no lol beenox is notoriously trash, it is their fault, high moon ported AW perfectly fine. doubt activision would waste their money on a trash company just to help “polish” when treyarch is more than capable of polishing their own stuff.

  • Baldmanz_RAGE

    Again. Waste of resources!!!

    • GinsuVictim

      It’s not Treyarch making it, so the team porting it (and doing a horrible job) is just being kept from making some other horrible port.

      • Smayo

        Why a horrible job ? Im sure they doing the best they can with the unrealistic assignment they recieved from upper hand, the only one here making a horrible job is activision for wanting to squeeze out every last dime from the remaining last gen users by bringing bo3 to 360/ps3, knowing full well it would be disastrous for the quality of the game.

        • GinsuVictim

          All they had to do was get MP and Zombies running. What is new that is so strenuous on the systems that they can’t pull 60fps?

          • Smayo

            I don’t know exactly what the problem is they run into, I’m not a game developer, but I can imagine that if you have to port over a game developed for the current gen systems in mind, it is a pretty hard job to do to keep it look at least decent, keep the 60fps, and try to keep as much content as possible and the whooping 512MB system ram allows you too

            Titanfall couldn’t pull it off in 60fps and the studio that ported that game stood in high regard, I don’t think it’s that easy to do as many seems to believe…

          • Drei

            lol but the thing is an entire section of the game was cut along with some other small features, it’s really not that hard, see: High Moon Studio’s AW port (with all features) and hmm TREYARCH’S WII U PORT OF GHOSTS WITH ALL FEATURES

  • JoZer805g

    Lol

  • Ak74u

    This proves that people need to move on from those consoles. It’s not worth the paying money for an incomplete game and we need to move on. They shouldn’t even made it on last gen because it splits the population. I think the servers on last gen for cod should be shut down already except for bo2, the only cod that has at least 25,000 total players online on 360

    • GinsuVictim

      ” I think the servers on last gen for cod should be shut down already
      except for bo2, the only cod that has at least 25,000 total players
      online on 360″

      Why shut them down when so many people still play? Also, BO2 has over a 100k players.

    • shantzonpoint

      Once bo3 is released watch that number plummet. It’s time to move on.

  • Cod =LIFE

    When are they going to think about pc players

  • phinn

    While a PS4 with game is now bundled at what, $349? It’s now also a new more power efficient version. You had 2 years to save, time to upgrade.

  • Slothigans

    This is legit the saddest news I’ve heard.

  • Freeze

    They shouldn’t even exist. It’s sad they even bothered making it. Should be done next year.

    • shadowguy14

      Oh you know next year Activisions gonna take another step back and want to bring COD to the orignal Xbox and PS2. Just wait.

  • Duke of hazard

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    *Gasps for air*

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    *Starts crying* Okay I’m sorry, I’m sorry. This is the funniest thing. Xbox 360 and PS3 players? You’re fucked! You hear me?! You’re fuc-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • GinsuVictim

      No reason to be a dick.

      • Duke of hazard

        Sorry lol. Can’t help but laugh.

        • kys yourself

          • Before you say anything, I’m being sarcastic

          • Duke of hazard

            You don’t need to add ‘yourself”, buddy. That’s what the ys is for.

          • Its a joke, step your game up fam

  • CheEsEToUcH666

    poor last gen players. poor them.

  • hungryandrew

    I have a ps4, though it’s not cool to poke fun of previous gen owners. Some people have children/families, student loan bills, bills, etc, where getting a ps4 or xbox one is the last thing on their mind, grow up people, it’s the real world, some people are focused on more important things to pay for than a video game system.

    • One Russian’s Revenge

      “I honestly would like to get one, but yeah, stuff comes up.”

    • BigMacMan

      I used to think like you do but then I realised, if you have family, financial etc issues then you shouldn’t be wasting your time & money playing video games. Rather spend that time & money into more important things

      • GinsuVictim

        You deal with all that shit, but you have to stop and relax or you’ll kill yourself.

    • shadowguy14

      It’s very cool.

    • kenneth loiz

      Exactly these people are so mean to be honest i have a 360 and im gonna get it i dont have money or can get a job and my family is going through tuff times we can barley pay the rent and i feel bad when these people talk about last gen and saying shit about it i still have fun with the console. Not everyone can afford to spend 400$ on a console and even if i do get it i will have no more money left over and only probably have one game if i buy a bundle and who wants to play the same game over and over again

  • One Russian’s Revenge

    “We need a kickstarter for me.”
    ;w ;

  • BradyAlucard[sillibk]

    Lmao damn. Let’s not be too surprised. Black ops 2 was never consistent in regards to performance.

  • James Martin

    When people say they are waiting but can afford, by the time you have pissed about the next gen consoles will be ready for release…

    • GinsuVictim

      Console generations have only gotten longer. There’s no fear of that happening.

      • James Martin

        That’s true

  • Ghost

    I could imagine, 512MB of RAM is a nightmare to make BO3 work with!

  • Jaime Mata

    My ps4 HDMI broke, so I can’t even play COD online.

    I can run wwe 2k15,axiom verge, etc… with no lag with “Remote Play”, but COD is too much i assume.

    It lags and textures are bad in remote play.

    Honestly they should just make it cross-buy now.
    So at least you have the PS4 version, for when you upgrade like AW did.

  • SonicDash06

    Holy shit thats bad

  • sTb

    30fps on a call of duty???? I have a feeling this game will get scrapped last minute. its an insult to ship this game last gen.

  • shadowguy14

    lol not my problem!

  • Eddie Tupy

    wow next cod better be exclusive to current gen and pc only

    • GinsuVictim

      BO3 already is. The 360/PS3 version is NOT the same game.

  • Lucas Gabriel

    Just want to inform all folks who live outside US that PS3 is a great media Player. If you want to access Netflix and other streaming stations on your PS3 you can use UnoTelly as I do to get around the geo block. 🙂

  • jt

    is there camping for xbox 360

  • kieran

    I try bo3 split screen and it does not work on last gen consoles is this a mistake or is it a missed out feature in the Xbox 360 which is in the Xbox one

  • Greeno

    I got yesterday on 360 I only wanted to play the Richthofen part really love the story but it ain’t on 8 or 10 multi maps 1 rubbish zombie map it’s like a map pack but 4 times more expensive I didn’t hear about no campaign or giant map defo wouldn’t have bought going to swap for Fifa 16 shocking ripoff

  • [email protected]

    Age Your Dog patches bo3 for xbox360 you fuck xbox frezzing go patcht that

  • NexusGP HD

    patches bo3 for xbox360 you fuck xbox frezzing go patcht that >( i haf buy that game for 59:99$ xbox 360 go patch please mean is not funny i join in Lobby one shot boom frezz my xbox

  • Azir,ShurimasOvernerfedEmperor

    the compaign is also boring and dissapointing :3

  • Booce

    And I say it again just fuck it
    Buy what you want it’s a waste on any gen anyway.

  • Ronald Seger

    If you wanna get it for cheap on pc. Around 35 dollars g2 a is having a huge sale. Check it out https://www.g2a.com/r/user-565d1fa2d1dca

  • Hunter Brower

    I wonder why so many of us are having such a problem playing bo3. Everyone I talk to/play with can hardly play without getting kicked out of the game, freezing or many other problems. And it’s only bo3 that it does it on. It’s so sad to see a call of duty this bad. I’ve never seen a call of duty made this bad either. We wish they would just fix it already.

  • lian felipe scorzoni fuentes

    WTF!

    all call of duty bring campaign that shit does not bring is the stupidest thing I’ve heard in my life take away the black mercad if even the battlefield has more graphic better performance this just doing it to pass ps4 but do not think of they do not have sufficient resources not remove nuketown is the essential map of black ops can not be that we remove all the essentials of black ops also can not customize our specialist are talking shit please actualizen and with the necessary campaign and everything others is essential and ” Treyarch ” should be putting on our side

  • osiris

    ami I would like to bring the split screen bienen sometimes as friends and as well it could play more aiga one great hope for that update

  • wakdcanuck

    Does anybody know why there are no dlc maps for bo3? Alot of people still have old gen systems and would love to play more maps.

  • Devante Derrickson

    THIS IS BS!!!!!! The only reason their doing this is so they can make the last gen game so bad that they can help promote new gen consoles and games just to make money off of people gullible enough to buy it! Older C.O.D’s have better graphics than this and for treyarch and The most terrible Sh*t company been of to give THE LAMEST EXCUSE! Saying how the old gen memory can’t handle the new graphics is just more B.S! For example! If bo2 can have camos like weaponized 115, After life and many others And advance warfare can have customizable characters and different gun camos other than the Dlc ones and the only somewhat cool camo last gen has is the crappy dark matter camo; Theirs just no EXCUSE!!! Beenox! Your a failure to the c.o.d community!