In an interview from E3 with EuroGamer, Sledgehammer Games’ Michael Condrey talked about the usage of swastikas in the game and how female soldiers will play a role.

As confirmed during the Making Call of Duty stream from E3, SHG is ensuring that the campaign is historically accurate and will include the swastikas in the campaign. The swastikas, however, will not be used in MP or Zombies.

“The campaign in this game is about finding that line of quality entertainment with respect for the world’s greatest conflict and the people who sacrificed and died. We tell that narrative in a way we think honors the cause.

Multiplayer is about bringing a community together that enjoys playing Call of Duty. It’s faster. There’s a brutality to WW2 multiplayer that is different than the last few games we made, but we were able to take some creative liberties to make that an experience multiplayer fans really love.

And Zombies gives us a tremendous amount of creative freedom. It also goes back to its roots of Nazi zombies, but with a Sledgehammer stamp and adrenaline-filled, gritty original story.

Each of those modes has a different approach.”

SHG says that decision is based on the fact that MP and Zombies is played by a global community and restrictions apply in some regions, so swastikas will not be shown in those modes.

“But in our global community of multiplayer and zombies players, we’ve chosen deliberately not to include that. We want the community to play together. We want to be respectful of local customs and laws around the world. And frankly it’s a dark symbol with a lot of emotion behind it we don’t feel matches our multiplayer experience.”

“Campaign will take a different approach, which we can stand behind. I firmly stand behind the approach we took in multiplayer, which is different.”

In the campaign, SHG has worked to ensure its historically accuarte throughout. There are female soldiers in campaign, but there are exclusive to the divisions they fought in during World War II. There’s a French Female soldier, which players will interact with in the campaign. Beyond just playing as Private “Red” Daniels in the campaign, players will also get to play as Rousseau, a female French resistance leader.

“You will meet up with the French Resistance and play as the strong female French Resistance leader Rousseau and that’s important. That happened in the conflict and we know that.”

And in multiplayer, SHG is bringing a wide range of customization options to players. Players can chose how their character looks — it’s totally up to each player. SHG says they understand that during WWII, there were no black German soldiers fighting the Axis power, but for MP, they want the customization of the player to be controlled by the player themselves.

“And so, that evolution of your character means it’s important for us to allow you to choose to be you, and to have a hero that represents who you are, whomever you choose that to be.

So, if you’re a female, or you want to play as a female, if you want to be any one of the multinational cast of characters to represent who you are, to look up to and respect as your avatar, we want to give you that opportunity.

Now, the challenge there, which is real, is half the time you’ll be playing on the Axis team. That was a decision we made intentionally. We want it to be you and we’re willing to have you be you, no matter what side of the conflict you’re on.

I’ll come right through the front door on it: we know that didn’t happen in the German forces. We know there was a lot of racism and racial tension in the 40s, so you wouldn’t have a black German soldier fighting next to the other Germans. We want this to be about you. We’re not making a statement about the authenticity of the Axis force. We’re making this about putting you in this social space and you into your soldier. And we want that to be rewarding and meaningful. I don’t want it to be our decision to force you away from your character into playing a German soldier, just because we put you on the Axis team.”

So, while being historically accurate is in the campaign, the MP experience is allowing players to play as characters they want too. It’s not all about historical accuracy in MP, it is also about allowing the community to build their own character to play in these modes.

SOURCE: EuroGamer

 

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  • DEMOLITION12

    it’s still disrespect whether they apologise or not

    • Keshav Bhat

      They didn’t apologize.

    • TheCoolGuy

      *apologize. And how is it disrespect?

      • DEMOLITION12

        to play as a person who doesn’t belong is disrespect to those who fought. you shouldn’t be able to play as an African in a European battle

        • Qaotik

          It’s called a video game. We are playing a multiplayer game. This isn’t the single player experience, which may I remind, Sledgehammer said that you won’t see that in there.

          • DEMOLITION12

            it’s multiplayer therefore twist history?

          • Qaotik

            I don’t remember respawning being apart of history nor realism, but sure, let’s go with that

          • DEMOLITION12

            historical accuracy is not the same thing as realism

          • Qaotik

            I don’t remember video games being historical textbooks. If you want something historically accurate, consider playing the single player experience. Thanks

    • Why would they apologize? It doesn’t fucking matter for multiplayer and zombies, they’ll make the game how they like, it looks great, I can’t wait to play it

      • And why the fuck is it disrespectful?

    • KX virus

      Apologise? Why the fuck should they apologise for not showing you a Nazi symbol? Furry moron

  • keithuniman

    Just give us the fucking option to eneable them in the us version in multiplayer

    • Joseph Upton

      Sledgehammer knows best for you. As cucks tend to think.

    • Keshav Bhat

      You can’t do that.

      • keithuniman

        Why? They can have swastikas in the campaign but not in mp? It would be turned off by default but you can enable them in the settings

        • Keshav Bhat

          It’s not being turned off in any mode. It’s not even being implemented into the maps anywhere. You can’t on/off something that isn’t in a mode of game.

    • Wouter

      i agree, here in the Netherlands that option should also be available. Developers also did this with different versions of Wolfenstein.

  • Braveheart is historically inaccurate and nobody complains about that. You know why? Because it’s “historical fantasy”–the same method being used for WWII’s multiplayer. Yet for some reason, people are (more) salty than usual.

    • DEMOLITION12

      ww2 isn’t fantasy you furry moron

      • Keshav Bhat

        No one is saying it’s a fantasy.

        Campaign, which tells the story of what happened, is accurate. MP and Zombies will be modes for the community worldwide to play together. I do not get how not seeing swastikas while playing a MP match will ruin the experience for you.

        • Not trying to argue, just imo

          Not to back up the troll or whatever but by that logic, then anything that hasn’t already been revealed for the MP and Zombies doesn’t have to be themed around WW2 then. I mean if you’re lacking the immersion through characters shouting along with their appearance and flags being ‘censored’, then there’s the chance of a futuristic laser gun being in supply drops or playing war game mode in a dlc map where you play on a picnic table.
          That’s very much likely exaggerated but the point is they could do something along them lines and atleast for me I’d much rather have a cod that goes back to its roots with classic gameplay and realistic/historically accurate settings

          • DEMOLITION12

            exactly. we already know we’re gonna get stupid outfits out of supply drops

        • KX virus

          Um, why are you bothering explaining this to someone who called someone “furry moron”?

          • Is he not allowed to?

          • DEMOLITION12

            they love to look for any reason why they don’t need to make a counter-argument. you spelled a word wrong! look at your username! look at your avatar!

        • BradyAlucard

          Swastikas don’t bother me. Catering to Anita Sarkeesian-like SJW’s by putting black female Wehrmacht soldiers speaking German and screaming like a 13 year old does more so than that. Heck, swastikas weren’t even as prevalent as some say it was, so much so it’s quite the misconception.

          What I’m genuinely concerned about, that actually affects me, are not these things, these are just minor annoyances that’s all.

        • Duke of hazard

          ” I do not get how not seeing swastikas while playing a MP match will ruin the experience for you”

          It wont. It’s just people looking for something to complain about. I even saw some guy get mad that he saw a black woman in multiplayer. Like, grow up.

      • I just said that “historical fantasy” was being used for multiplayer. I never said it was going to be applied to the campaign. In other words, multiplayer will be based on real events, but slightly alter them in order to make ends meet. Please read carefully next time.

  • ScOott

    If female soldiers and swastikas are the only things to complain about when the full game is released it will be one hell of CoD game imo .. bitch about it all u want its pathetic if u ask me .. i care about three things at this point in time ..

    ttk is good, the connection is good (not sbmm/what ever it is) supply drops are improved from there last game ..

    They get that right … its going to be amazing ..

    Some people will cry over the most stupid of stuff ..

    • TheCoolGuy

      I felt that mwr supply drops are pretty good

      • ScOott

        Didnt buy it, seen alot of people say the same thing tho ..

        • They are definitely the best version yet. Each gun I have gotten has taking me at least 10 supply drops to open. Which is like 300 keys

          • Sexy Mcgee

            I would agree but it takes at least twice the amount of time to get keys that it does in IW and black ops 3.

          • I’m fine with the earn rate in MWR because at least the salvage rate in that game is actually good and you’re able to craft literally anything

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    • Gameplay looks really fun and finally looking like Call of Duty again. Overall I’m happy 38th everything I seen

    • Drank Bleach

      Wouldn’t get too excited, Michael was asked there was gonna be more guns and Michael tweeted “multiple of” and deleted it. Variants could be returning.

      • KX virus

        One more guy who doesn’t understand it… He meant multiples of 10, which means 20/30/?0 weapons. Not variants. Since we already know there are more than 10 weapons than e3, it’s impossible that he refered to variants.

        Variants could really be returning, but that tweet has nothing to do with them.

        • TheAdversary

          Why would he delete his tweet, then?

          • KX virus

            Because youtubers mistook it as ‘variants confirmed’

          • TheAdversary

            Even if it wasn’t confirming variants, what kind of retard would Condrey have to be to word his comment in such a way that could possibly imply the return of variants?

            And if it is, it makes complete sense for him to delete it so quickly. If people find out there’s going to be weapon variants for such a petite number of actual weapons in-game, they might realize that Activision/Sledgehammer is gouging content to wrap up in Supply Drops (Shit that’s been going on since Black Ops 3).

        • Drank Bleach

          So who’s the one that doesn’t understand? Yeah I was right, weapon variants are confirmed.

          • KX virus

            That still wasn’t about variants. There are more than 10 weapons, that’s a fact. Therefore, that tweet can’t be about variants.

    • djml9

      IW and MWR have pretty decent supply drop systems.

    • PDX Guitar Freak

      Well said… these kids (and I have to say “kids” based on the maturity of some of the comments on this page) are wasting way too much energy on their complaining. Condrey said it well about swastikas: “it’s a dark symbol with a lot of emotion behind it.” Some people are too young or immature to get that. I’m not an SJW, not even close (I can’t stand those anti-fa punks that are protesting), but we all have our limits on what is tasteful or not.

      • snake56

        It’s a 18+ game.

        • PDX Guitar Freak

          I think you missed my point bro… I was talking about the comments on this page and the maturity level of some people, not the recommended age for the game.

    • Sir Strikes A Lot

      I highly agree with you, but I just love the irony. They call it nazi zombies, but they refuse to add swastikas. XD

    • Khaled Hassan

      But the game has variants? If it does I’m personally playing Bo3 for year 3

    • Apparently the recoil is pretty bad tho

    • Sexy Mcgee

      I agree and originally took that stance but at the same time I think they could have saved themselves and rational people some grief from the whiners by just including an option to have german soldiers be white dudes with swastikas on their uniform. While the rest of us could have people inject whatever they wanted to represent themselves in the MP fantasy.

  • I can respect that

  • imBATMAN

    So….no swastika fidget spinners…..wow

    • TheCoolGuy

      And no mp40 vapes

      • imBATMAN

        Not gonna buy this game anymore then SMH NO MP40 VAPES WAS THE LAST STRAW

  • Wouter

    I can get behind the swastika thing, but the (black) females just doesn’t feel right in the whole experience. CoD has fallen for the social justice warriors. Back in the days of WaW and CoD 4 there were no females and nobody was complaining. The argument of makeing it a social community doesn’t make sense.

    • XPZ MainZ372

      The world has changed

      • DEMOLITION12

        nothing changed except for the acceleration of marxist brainwashing

      • Rob

        Yep, everyone has morphed into giant walking pandering vaginas over that last 8 years or so. Hmm what happened a little over 8 years ago that could have turned everyone into pandering bleeding hearted pussys?

      • Wouter

        That doesn’t mean Sledgehammer should bow for every bitch that is offended by this game.

    • KX virus

      > Back in the days of WaW and CoD 4 there were no females

      > and nobody was complaining

      Precisely because of that. It’s 2017 now, you can’t even make a historical game without someone complaining about lack of women/minorities.

  • An Alpaca

    “But in our global community of multiplayer and zombies players, we’ve chosen deliberately not to include that. We want the community to play together.”

    Might have confirmed SBMM.

    • TheCoolGuy

      Maybe.

    • Everything you just described is gameplay elements and that that would refer to unrealistic. Not historical accuracy.

      • An Alpaca

        Still didn’t happen in WWII though.

        • Realism doesn’t the same as historical accuracy. None of the complainers were arguing gameplay. They were arguing historical accuracy. What was true to that era.

          • An Alpaca

            Well reflex sights were only used on aircraft, anti-aircraft guns, naval guns, and anti tank weapons during WWII and not used on SMGs, rifles, and machine guns held by soldiers.

          • They’re going to take a couple of liberties for a gameplay purpose. World at War did the same but still stayed true to that era. Women fighting on the German side or American side does nothing for gameplay and is just a major historical inaccuracy. That’s not to say I’m complaining about it. I’m actually happy with this game as it’s something I been wanting for like the past 4 or 5 years. But I completely understand the complaint of the historical inaccuracy. Women simply just didn’t right on the American side or the German side. Not saying MP is 100% accurate as it never is, but I can believe a reflex eight in WWII more than a German female fighting in the war. Which goes back to my point about WaW

          • KX virus

            Google Nydar sight

          • An Alpaca

            Based off my 3 minutes of research on the Nydar Sight, the sight was introduced in 1945, the last year of WWII, and the Nydar Sight intended to be used on shotguns to make bird hunting easier. There seems to be no record of any military using Nydar Sight on small arms issued to soldiers in WWII.

    • Michael Romo

      If you’re looking for realism, this game ain’t for you

      • An Alpaca

        I just like to poke fun at people who seem to want realism and/or historical accuracy in video games, though I probably do a bad job at it.

        • KX virus

          Yes you do, sorry. Because historical accuracy isn’t the same thing as realism. You can make a decent WW2 atmosphere even in an arcade shooter, COD 1, 2 and 3 prove that.

    • BradyAlucard

      None of these things are as fantastical as black Wehrmacht women soldiers screaming in German.

      • snake56

        I hope they say “Oh hell no!” in german.

  • Damien Solberg

    So there excuse for not having the swastika is so that everybody can play together….why would people in the US be playing with people that live in countries where the symbol is banned like Germany? Its a lame ass excuse by these sjw’s…

    • Peoople have always been playing with people from different countries, whether that’s party or just coming across them in lobbies, I’ve always had mixed lobbies in every COD game with people from all over the world, all over Europe and all over the states, regardless of how matchmaking is.

      Are they fuck SJW’s

  • I don’t really care about Swastika’s not being in multi or zombies, have no fucking clue why people do, they won’t be in multi and zombies, they will be on the campaign. Who gives a shit, it doesn’t affect gameplay lol

    • Qaotik

      It’s for several reasons. For one thing, the game goes out of its way to market itself as this depiction of WW2, which is the most brutal war in history. So why is one of the most iconic symbols not in there? World at War had them, so why not this? It’s also mainly a campaign thing, not a multiplayer thing. We already know that we are fighting in Europe and that symbolism helps play some role in the immersion of the experience. We are fighting Germans, some of which were Nazis, and it’s fun to kill Nazis.

      It’s not the worst thing in the world, but it’s that cherry on top of the sundae. If you’re going to depict WW2, then go all out.

      • Sir Strikes A Lot

        Well fucking said, my good sir.

      • They’ve literally told you, why the hell would they make different copies for different regions which would cost more production wise? Why would they do that when they can remove minor things such as swastikas and have more profit overall, there are a few companies which ban swastikas from what I recall, “then they can’t play it” yeah, bad business move. More profit than (production) costs.

        You’re nit-picking, the symbol is there IN campaign – where it fucking matters for Christ sake, it doesn’t matter in multiplayer WHATSOEVER.

        “Why is one of the most iconic symbols not in there”? The iron cross is also an iconic symbol.

        “It’s also mainly a campaign thing, not a multiplayer thing” We don’t need them in multiplayer and they’ve stated valid reasons towards why they won’t be, accept it and move on – this isn’t going to change

        “We already know that we are fighting in Europe and that symbolism helps play some role in the immersion of the experience. We are fighting Germans, some of which were Nazis, and it’s fun to kill Nazis”, you speak as if this isn’t in the campaign where the story matters – they ARE in campaign.

        “if you’re going to depict WW2, then go all out”, They HAVE gone all out

        • snake56

          “why the hell would they make different copies for different regions which would cost more production wise? ”
          They used to do that.

          • USED to, lower production costs -> more profitability

        • Qaotik

          Dude, I said it was a campaign thing, NOT a multiplayer thing and you yourself achknoledged that, so what’s your point? I already got my answer and I’m happy with that, but I find it weird that they would homonogize the experience for the sake of laws and production costs. While I understand laws, production costs doesn’t make sense. They are art teams that are already tasked with designing textures, so to expect them to make different versions of one texture is nothing new. A lot of other games do so like wolfenstien.

          And yes, it’s a nit-pick. They go all this way to make a promising WW2 shooter and don’t address the elephant in the room. It’s something I can live without, but it helps add a little more of that “dark feeling” Condrey was talking about. It’s an immersion thing

  • People nit-picking at such minor things is ridiculous, honestly, COD is sure gunna be good this year if these are the only things the community can complain about

    • Sweep XII

      It happen every year lol

  • Vikrant Singh

    this is fucking stupid, just do what black ops 1 and 2 did and have a unrestricted content toggle

    • Sir Strikes A Lot

      And they should remove swastikas for GERMANY ONLY.

  • Vikrant Singh

    i’m not saying i really care, i’m playing kino just fine without the swastika on zc, but the way they’re handling the situation and their reason why is stupid

  • Michael Romo

    You know, Sledgehammer COULD just put in swatstikas and put a disclaimer at the beginning of the game that explains that if you’re choosing to play this, be aware that there may be some offensive symbols/dialogue.

    But no, just take them out completely…

    • An Alpaca

      Germany and other countries ban the use of swatstikas in video games.
      Swatstikas are removed from zombies and multiplayer in every regional version to allow people from other regions to play together as it is clearly stated in this article.

      • Michael Romo

        Well then they don’t get to play it. Fuck them if they think it honestly matters.

        It’s not THAT big a deal, but seriously: the world thinks EVERYTHING is offensive nowadays…

        • Michael Romo is a Spic

          If it’s not a big deal then why the fuck you making it a big deal about the swastikas not being there? Who gives a shit? They were never going to make them emblems, so they would have little impact on the game.

          It’s a great call not to add them and if you don’t think so, then just look at people’s custom emblems. You see the most racist shit and childish things already. Good on SHG being respectful cause lord knows these lil kids wouldn’t have. Who gives a fuck if a swastika is on the walls of MP? You a bitch Michael Romo, gay broke nigga.

          • GinsuVictim

            ATTN KESHAV:
            Are you able to turn off anonymous users being allowed to post here? It wouldn’t solve everything, but we would at least be able to block them, unlike this racist trash.

          • DEMOLITION12

            gonna send them to the gulag too? commie fuck

          • GinsuVictim

            Classy as always.

          • Michael Romo

            How am I racist?

          • GinsuVictim

            I wasn’t talking about you.

          • Michael Romo

            It’s just the principle of NOT having it because it may be “offensive”. If Rockstar made another GTA and it had neo-nazis, they wouldn’t give a fuck because that’s what the game is. Similarly, this game deserves to have that small feature because it is accurate. It’s not meant to be offensive if it’s historically accurate

        • Bigi345

          Yeah! They should totally not sell the game in Germany just because this random guy keeps complaining in the comment section of a charlieintel page

          • Michael Romo

            I never claimed it should be for me. I’m just saying that it is a big thing for many people who like WW2s history, including me, and we don’t want censorship on something that is pretty insignificant in terms of “offensiveness”.

          • PDX Guitar Freak

            Dude… first of all, I’m far from being an SJW (they tend to annoy me too) and think political correctness has gone too far in the US, in general, but I want to make a few points that conflict with your thinking: 1) swastikas ARE a big deal to a lot of people, and for good reason. If they were simply historical symbols, that would be one thing. However, as Condrey said “it’s a dark symbol with a lot of emotion behind it” AND racist assholes still use the symbol these days to promote hate and fear. It’s probably the most used symbol of hate still this day. 2) I’m a Jew and not surprisingly that makes the topic more emotional for me (but keep in mind that Nazis also killed tons of Catholics, Poles, Gypsies, disabled people, and more). I don’t mind seeing the symbol in the game, if I’m killing Nazis, but it will ruin the multiplayer experience for me if I’m forced to be on the Axis side and I have a Nazi symbol on my sleeve or my teammates. It’s like having a black person play a game where he’s forced to wear a KKK hood. 3) Having it in campaign doesn’t bother me at all… again, so long as I’m killing Nazis. I probably won’t sway you into changing your opinion, but perhaps you will understand a little better why the controversy exists. See ya

          • Bigi345

            And activision wants the game to sell as much as possible. Guess which matters to them more?

        • BradyAlucard

          Exactly. Germany has become a politically correct hell in recent memory. Are the idiots running that country aware that only a minority of German soldiers were Nazi’s?

          • Ed

            Oh FFS, it doesn’t have to do with the Nazis from a military standpoint, but a political standpoint. They do not want National Socialism to arise on again. It doesn’t have to do with the German military or what they did.

          • BradyAlucard

            Aren’t those two things interchangeable? SMH.

            Thing is, similar excuses are ruining their country.

        • Ed

          Wow, someone is really mature. This really isn’t about censoring history, it’s about complying with not only just international laws, but also to keep a hate symbol out of a social space like MP.

          And also, what kind of answer is “they don’t get to play it then?” How god damn immature are you? The fact that you think just because an certain law that bans swastikas means they shouldn’t get to sell a shooter game set in the era shows how much of a disillusioned prick you are who doesn’t put things into context.

          Put yourself in a game developer’s shoes: you are cutting off a significant player base size, and thus less money being made. Also, think about how many assests, animations, and texturing details have to be created, just to comply with international laws. This wasn’t a problem with older games due to the lack of graphics resolution and lack of detail that AAA games now have. It’s saves time, money, and resources that are being put into much more important things, allow the game to be sold over seas, and not get screwed over by international laws

        • clercq1983

          It’s pretty simple actually… You say F*CK them, then they don’t get to play it. Wel I say, if you dislike the game because there are no swastikas in MP, then F*CK you and don’t buy the game.

          • Michael Romo

            It’s not THAT big a deal though for me. I’m just saying that censorship is turning the world into one big baby about offensiveness. Get the fuck over it; Nazis happened, so just deal with hit. No one associates Nazis with Germany much anyways. And even if they did, so what?

  • KX virus

    I can’t believe nobody is seeing the real reason behind the censoring of swastika. It’s because you’re playing as a Nazi soldier. If they mark the German faction with the swastika, it would be considered a Nazi faction and no doubt there would be media/organizations/people complaining that you’re able to play as a Nazi, which in their mind encourages neo-nazism and is disrespectful. The game would get in trouble. This is simply Activision regulating it and making sure there are no controversies and that the game gets a smooth global launch with no issues such as this. The reason why SHG doesn’t say this is because logically, they can’t. They made the most logical reason that makes sense, for marketing.

    • DEMOLITION12

      they’ve got no problem with people playing as communists though, strange

    • Thang Tran

      It’s as if World at War or COD 1-3 never existed.

      • KX virus

        Lol, that was 2006 mate. It’s 2017, do you realize how much this world has changed?

  • BradyAlucard

    TL;DR They’re SJW’s.

    • snake56

      Anita held a seminar at SledgeHammer office a couple of years ago.

      • BradyAlucard

        I saw. -.-

        The community took the bait: “THEY’RE NOT SJW’S!!!”.

        • snake56

          She went at Bungie too, that could explain the “we care about our diverse community so we’ll make sure that toxic people won’t get to talk to you” during the Destiny 2 reveal livestream.

  • Rob

    I guess I understand the regular multiplayer not having them but the “Nazi” zombies not having the symbol that defines a nazi is just stupid. I’m tired of everyone being so offended about everything and even more tired of everyone pandering to them. If a swaztika offends you then turn your fucking eyes away from it pussys. Or we could all just pretend it never happened and sensor every one of them from now until the end of time. Thats how we learn from our past and not repeat it right, just ignore everything, is that how it works?

  • Qaotik

    Their statements were just as I thought, so I’m not surprised. Yet I still feel weird that you are put in the foot steps of a female resistance fighter in the campaign. It’s not there’s any problem with it being historically accurate because it is, but it most certainly feels like they had to go out of their way to find some piece of historical info that gives them the excuse to do so in order to check off the diversity box. Last time I checked, my textbooks never once mentioned this. Then again, I live in the US.

    I have no problem if there is women in this game, especially multiplayer because who gives a shit? But it better be done right. I don’t want SHG to make a pretentious story arc that tries to represent a group of people that they themselves might not understand. So far, this game looks promising

  • TMZ Censored Me

    If you want something that’s historically accurate down to a tee, go read a history book. If you’re playing video games because of the history, you’re playing for the wrong reason.

  • PoonjabMcDaddy

    I’m sure part of it is the YouTube community. They know MP and Zombies will be recorded and uploaded a shitload on YT and viewed by a global audience, and those videos will be blocked in certain countries unless the YT’er goes through and blurs out every Swastika. Makes life easier for them I guess?

    But still they could just have an option in the game that turns them on or off…

    I’m glad they at least they have them in campaign where authenticity matters most. MP I don’t really care that they don’t have them. But Zombies… it’s literally Nazi Zombies. They basically implies it’s about the Nazis trying to make a zombie army. Swastikas should be in there. Plus, the only thing more horrendous and despicable than a zombie is a Nazi zombie.

  • Hitman

    The female soldiers are actually tranny’s.

    • GinsuVictim

      You can’t say “tranny” anymore. The preferred term is now “ScOott”

      • Hitman

        Sounds like you are shooing someone away. “Scoot outta here (clapping hands and pointing finger) lol

  • ToonToons22

    Why do people want historical accuracy in a game that was never realistic to begin with? It’s a WWII themed game, not a WWII simulator. You want that? Go play something else. This game, WaW, and the first CoDs were totally unrealistic depictions of the war.

    Who gives a flying crap if there’s no swastikas or if women are fighting in the game? That doesn’t change gameplay at all. At this point, the gameplay is all that I care about. Don’t like it? Well you can’t always get what you want.

    • snake56

      “Go play something else” or “read a book” are not valid arguments. SledgeHammer have been advertising their WWII game around the “authenticity” aspect and their decision to be “historically accurate”.
      It’s the exact same shit that Dice pulled when they made Battlefield 1: “we want to honor those who gave their lives during that conflict but you will only be able to play as a black man or a female russian”.

      • ToonToons22

        Simply put, the fun value of a game is far more important than authenticity.

        Authenticity and historical accuracy by Call of Duty standards aren’t very realistic. That also goes for Battlefield, which was never accurate in any of their games, especially the latest ones.

        I play historically incorrect games all the time and I never felt the need to complain over that because I’m too busy getting kills or taking objectives!

        A historical shooter game, no matter how “real” it wants to be, is always going to be considered a work of historical fiction.

  • snake56

    “frankly it’s a dark symbol with a lot of emotion behind it we don’t feel matches our multiplayer experience”

    Holy shit. How long until Hollywood ban nazi symbols by fear that they might turn actors into real nazis?

    • DEMOLITION12

      that’s their problem. they include it, they make them look cool, more people find out the truth about them. they censor it and people get mad, more people find out the truth

      • snake56

        I bet they have no issue showing communist symbols in the game (campaign and multiplayer).

        • DEMOLITION12

          of course not. though they had better be careful about it too, because people are waking up to just who was behind it and what they did

  • Iron Cross

    Did I miss something? I thought they call their zombies mode “Nazi Zombies”? I really don’t understand that. They explicitly called it Nazi Zombies. But no swastikas in zombies? How does that work? Don’t tell me they use the iron cross and still call it “Nazi” zombies. Germany could get very offended with that. The iron cross has nothing to do with nazis.

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  • This is pure laziness and catering to SJWs on Sledgehammer’s part. I’ve said it before (multiple times) and I’ll say it again – there are plenty of options to propose, here are just a few:

    1. Give us an option in the MP menu to enable “Offensive content” – this would just be a simple on/off toggle switch that replaces the swastika texture with the iron cross when turned on. When off, a swastika would appear. You could also do the same thing to change every skin to a variety of different white male skins (because we all know that this SJW shit is just stupid and completely wrong).

    2. Let me use an example to begin here. Go to Google.com. When you hit GO or ENTER, whatever, you are redirected to your local version of Google. For me, for example, I type google.com and am redirected to google.CA and under the Google logo it shows “Canada”. The same logic could apply for WWII; find out where the user is connecting to the game from (via IP address or their PSN/XBL/Steam account country setting) and show them swastikas or not that way. If they log in from Germany, put up a censored version. If they’re coming from the USA, give them swastikas but also give them an option to turn them off.

    3. Kind of follows point 2 – If you’re buying the game digitally on Xbox or PSN and your account location/country is set to Germany (or your Xbox/PSN itself is) then put up a different download in the store. Call it “Call of Duty: WWII – Germany” or something. It’d be the exact same game with textures cut out. Same servers, same everything, except they’d just see different flags than we (North America for example) would.

    4. (a little less cost-effective) Send a team to Germany or somewhere in Europe to manage the game and sell censored physical disks. This obviously isn’t the cheapest solution but whatever happens they’ll have a foreign team that can change anything that’d need to be changed.

    For those of you that don’t know how this stuff works, it is extremely easy and very lazy on SHG’s part. It literally consists of changing a picture with a swastika on it to a picture with an iron cross or whatever on it. If you go to gamebanana.com and type in a game, you’ll find a bunch of different skins for guns that you can use. Only YOU see them, it’s client sided. Same logic would apply to swastika textures in WWII.

    • NOVA_POLARIS

      It’s not SJW’s but rather Germany itself. Creating different versions of a multiplayer experience is very expensive and they get no money from it. I wish Germany would lift there strict ban on the Swasticka and I’m actually happy that Sledgehammer took the time to make two versions in single player.

      • These are all extremely cheap and easy fixes that would probably take an hour to do. Find the Axis or iron-cross textures in-game, replace them with swastikas, and sell it where appropriate. They could simply sell the original ‘censored’ version on the German Xbox/PSN/Steam store(s) and the uncensored version everywhere it’s not banned.

  • GinsuVictim

    I don’t care if there are swastikas in MP or not.
    I don’t care about the sex and race of other player models in MP.
    I just want to shoot you and teabag your corpse.

  • finnthesubhuman

    Yes, SHG. When I play Axis I want to really put myself in the role. You know, the role of a nazi. That’s what I want to see myself as.

    /s

    • GinsuVictim

      You can’t really see yourself, other than killcams. Does it matter?

      • finnthesubhuman

        That makes their excuse even more ridiculous.

  • Kind of hard to call it “Nazi Zombies Mode” WITHOUT any Nazi Symbolism. Just saying.

  • travis

    I feel the same way when I make a replica of me, a white guy, in NBA2K. I just want to be me.

  • mike lopez

    Oh…so many thing I want to say but I will try and keep it some what short.

    The people who really care about having swastikas in mp probably need to do some work on themselves. Some of the posters seem to have very little working understanding of stuff like, history, business and racism. The information as to why a symbol hate was left out of the mp make sense to most people. It is you, the one who cares about this symbol being in mp that are in the minority. The fact you don’t get swastikas were left out says plenty about who you are.

    The optics alone are horrible. Let’s just take social media and YouTube videos. Activision Blizzard does not want their huge game putting swastikas in any sort of positive light. will get enough shit just having the hate symbol in game period. This game has plenty of racist playing already there is no need to help give them a fourm to help promote hate.

    Then there is the simple fact the people involved probably have more character than the people who really care about swastikas. My guess is there is not a person in meeting going, “You know what we need? More swastikas. I am putting my foot down. If don’t get to kill Jews while in full Nazi regalia what is this industry coming too”. Then the swastika guy adds” oh I almost forgot about the blacks and bitches , I know you guys are pushing customization and all types of people play this game but we can’t have those types in mp. Doing so will just ruin the game. It is not acceptable”.
    Boss: “ok bye. Talk to Karen in HR on your way out.

    Boycotts bad press are not something a company is looking to face on such a easily avoided issue. The community will be happier with the people pro swastikas not playing anyways

    • It’s not the fact that we can’t kill Jews, or the fact that swastikas are even missing in MP. It’s the fact that they advertised it and explicitly said on multiple occasions that WWII was going to be as realistic as it could be. For fucks sake, you cannot have a WWII game and not touch on the Nazi regime. I will not be surprised if the game comes out and the campaign has no mention of the Third Reich or even the Holocaust. They advertise zombies as ‘Nazi Zombies’ but there won’t be swastikas in zombies. The swastika is the symbol of the Nazis for fucks sake and they’re not going to put it in ‘NAZI’ zombies?! I’ve posted a lengthy comment here on this page a few days ago that has gotten no recognition as to how they could add swastikas restrictively – I actually gave multiple solutions. This game is being heavily influenced by SJWs and people who are afraid of the oh-so-scary swastika. It’s fucking history. The Nazis were the reason WWII was what it was. You cannot call a game fucking WWII and hide from the darkness.

  • Diego Diniz

    Fuck swastikas! We want Good Maps, good hit detection and get kills. Stop crying because of this shit…
    Ps.: I prefer a YELLOW old school “+100” pop up killfeed on the screen than swastikas logos on the game!