A portion of the December NPD report was revealed to investors earlier, and investors speaking have revealed that Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare physical sales are down almost 50% compared to Black Ops 3 physical sales in launch month.

Cowen analyst Doug Creutz said, “Infinite Warfare units came in 17 percent shy of our expectations, down close to 50 percent [year-over-year].”

NPD data only projects physical sales at retailers and does not include digital sales.

Additional analysts have projected Infinite Warfare’s digital sales are actually up 15% compared to Black Ops 3. They also noted that sales for Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare’s micro transactions are expected to be higher this year compared to Black Ops 3, with 4 DLC Packs for Infinite Warfare still to come. In the last year, Activison Blizzard (across all titles) saw over $1 billion in revenue just from in-game content sales.

Additionally, Modern Warfare Remastered being bundled into the more expensive versions of Infinite Warfare is set to offset a lot of Activision’s losses for the year. The cheapest version to get both games at launch was $80, which might benefit Activision overall.

Activision Blizzard always expected Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare’s sales to be down compared to Call of Duty: Black Ops 3. During their Quarterly Earnings call back in November, Activision CEO stated that preorders are down year over year, and that overall sales would be lower for the title this year. But some are suggesting the actual drop in sales at retailers was more dramatic than expected. Activision Blizzard’s stocks have dropped 20% since October.

The full NPD data is expected to come this week.

SOURCE: GameSpot

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  • “They also noted that sales for Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare’s micro transactions are expected to be higher this year compared to Black Ops 3”

    I wonder why…keep relying on micro transactions Activision, while the games sales itself continue to tank…lol

    • Keshav Bhat

      You don’t get it: Activision mints money off of it. It’s ridiculous how much they actually make from Supply Drops! That’s why it’s there for 3 years now…

      • No, I actually do get it. Which is why I made the comment…
        Spare me the oh business speech, I get why it’s there. But this supply drop microtransactions seriously hurt these games and the fact people blow money on this crap means more content gets locked behind rng/pay walls. Which means they obviously dont care about how well the game ITSELF SALES. Why bother when you can make a quick buck off of meaningless micro DLC? To anyone who say this crap doesn’t hurt the game is straight up a fool.

        • jordanxbrookes

          Well said.

        • Duke of hazard

          Exactly. It’s so obvious that they don’t care about the fans.

          • Keshav Bhat

            They do care.

            And one point: more customers are buying COD Points than complaining about it, especially this past year in BO3. You should see our mentions when new content is added into drops. SO many showing they bought $20-$50 of Points to open drops and showing all the new items. Some of course do use keys, but still.

          • Duke of hazard

            That’s the problem. They’re putting more effort into micro transactions than the damn game itself. 3 years into making this game, people still can’t see their leaderboards and I cant even make my private matches, you know, PRIVATE. But yet they have no issues handling micro transactions.

        • Psychomaggot105

          What makes it really apparent is supposedly it took three years to make this unfinished game?! Micro transactions are their first priority for this game. And yes Keshav it hurts the game and it shows big time.

          • Keshav Bhat

            First priority for Activision.

          • Clint Eastwood

            Meanwhile Battlefield and Rainbow Six consume CoD’s market share.

          • Keshav Bhat

            Call of Duty beat Battlefield 1 in terms of sales in November on the PS Store.

          • Clint Eastwood

            That’s not what market share means. CoD’s market share used to be much larger than Battlefield’s, but that BF1 shrunk that gap massively despite CoD’s huge brand recognition advantage.

        • Keshav Bhat

          Never said this doesn’t hurt the game or affect fans, but the notion that Activision is shoving this in our face without any benefit is false. Activision is making so much money off of it. It comes down to this for a business: $$ or feedback. Here, $ is talking more than feedback since more are buying than complaining. What we see, Reddit, twitter, etc. is a small portion of fans. So many out there who spend a lot.

          • Benefits? LOL WHERE?

            And again with your businesses stuff. i get why it’s there and why it’s staying.

          • jordanxbrookes

            He still does that to me sometimes. Explains how it’s all business and I’m sat here like “I’ve studied the industry and games development for over 3 years, I know that publishers care for business and business only” lol.

          • Keshav Bhat

            Exactly, so why are you saying that what I am saying is wrong? It’s how this works…they need investors to be happy, and mDLC does that perfectly. It benefits Activision so much more than how much it hurts the company. Black Ops 3 literally set all time records in Call of Duty’s history for post launch revenue.

          • jordanxbrookes

            I haven’t said you are wrong, I’m saying the way microtransactions and RNG are being handled in Call of Duty is wrong. I understand business is business, but I also understand loyalty and respect for fans.

          • to be fair games nowadays are all pay to win or buy an uncompleted game and the rest is in the season pass that’s why i’m enjoying my overwatch everything is free. $60 for free maps, free heroes, free sesonal event loot boxes etc no season pass needed

          • Yeah, they all have RNG systems. But no one does it worse or rely on it worse than Call of Duty.

            Look at Battlefield 1 for example. They have battle packs but does EA and Dice completely relie on battle packs to get their sales? No.

          • It’s because they were smart and made a game in ww1, i don’t blame iw because they started working on infinite warfare immediately after ghost and then all the hype was for futuristic games. I just hope we get a boots on ground cod because i haven’t enjoyed a cod game since ghost

          • I don’t blame Infinity Ward for making Infinite Warfare or for their own take on future theme game. I do blame them for being lazy about the game. I do blame the dumbass who thought it would be a great idea to have three futuristic games in a row

          • True i will bring up the excuse that they lacked man power though and fr 3 futuristic games in a row and we’re fed up i’m just hoping sledgehammer don’t fuck up their Vietnam war era game if the rumors are true

          • Keshav Bhat

            Should have been clearer, sorry: it benefits Activision’s pockets and investors. Not consumers.

            Infinite Warfare already was projected to be low in sales and be bad for ATVI this year. But, with how much $ they make from drops, I really am surprised when people complain about why its still there. I mean ATVI proved how important mDLC is this year by releasing COD Points 2 weeks after launch.

          • Oh okay i see what you mean now. And yeah I agree i get kinda shock when I see people surprised that they’re not getting removed, i dont think they’re getting removed, obviously here to stay lol

            And while battlefield has battle packs you can’t compare them to Call of Duty because battle packs don’t hurt the game and EA and DICE aren’t completely relying on them to get sales. That’s there is literally only camos in there. Nothing game changing

          • Keshav Bhat

            Yeah, that’s 100% true. Battlefield has no guns in the packs. And sadly CoD does. But, I understand people hate drops. I hate them too. It’s literally a gamble to get what you want, but I kinda think, if we’re stuck with Drops, IW did it best in that, regardless of how much it costs, there’s an non $ alternative to get the rare weapons. Not the best solution, but at least something.

            We only see such a fraction of the community here because of how large the Call of Duty community is. So many people, and so much feedback. Activision sees $$ and feedback, but $$ is winning right now vs. our complaints. I mean, one instance which showed Activision was listening was earlier this year when they added Season Pass bonus and Contracts to Black Ops 3, providing alternate ways to get Drops and content.

          • In my eyes it can only be a year or two until they role out a completely different model of a game almost completely relying on micro-transactions – not sure if it will be FTP though or not. 3 years of releases is a good beta test for it.

          • Yeah, if sales continue to tank for the game and micro DLC continue to rise, I definitely see Call of Duty being free to play in the near future. Hell, it should be free to play now.

        • physastra

          Talk to the you tubers doing 100 dollar openings! It’s all shit but a billion can’t be argued with. Sheeple everywhere!

        • the thing is we say boycott it, but there those people who stupidly spend money on games or anything they can spend money on which pisses me off because to activision it looks like we like it then they’ll keep forcing it on us.

  • This franchise died after the original Infinity Ward left. Yeah, you can say Black Ops 1 was great, but let’s be honest. How much fun have you guys been having since MW2? How many of you actually get excited when a new trailer drops. It ain’t like MW2, that’s for sure. And these sales prove just how bad this game truly is. Numbers don’t lie.

    • jordanxbrookes

      I haven’t enjoyed CoD since Ghosts personally. I mean, I guess I enjoyed the Black Ops 3 Beta and first 2 months of Black Ops 3, but yeah, I haven’t enjoyed playing CoD since Ghosts.

      • It’s all aw fault bro they brought this futuristic bs and made the worst cod in history and i still laugh at people saying ghost wasn’t fun

    • I genuinely got excited when I saw Black Ops 3 got revealed. I feel like Treyarch is the only guys that genuinely get me excited for Call of Duty now. I genuinely got excited for games like BO1, MW3, BO2, hell even Ghosts. Which I thought the franchise was actually fine back in those days. Games were selling well and most of those games were actually good.

      It really is transparent now more than ever these guys only care about money. They dont care about creating art, or something genuinely good, without any passion. Once money is the only thing in your sight, i feel like you lose sight on a lot of things. It seriously shows.

      • I gave up on 3arc after bo2 (it was still fun to play), but bo3 was way worse

        • I thought BO3 was just as good as BO2, it just got held back by the micotransactions and what not

        • Element115Will

          Why is that? Let me guess, lag?

      • DanDustEmOff

        I was excited after the beta, the networking seemed good the guns were powerful, the movement was slick and the maps played well. But then the game dropped and Treyarch went on so many nerfing sprees that all the guns and some perks became dull to use. None of them the sense that you were using a powerful instrument of death, they instead felt like cheap paintball guns. They were so close to me joining their cult but they just can not stop themselves nerfing things into oblivion. Other than that BO3 was a good game but the devs need to stop listening to whiney cry babies that moan that a gun is OP guns are supposed to be powerful and some guns are better than others IRL the game should reflect the real world advantages and disadvantages of the gun.

    • Former

      Sales don’t prove a games worth, just like the popularity of a song doesn’t prove its worth. Whether or not the game is enjoyable is perfectly subjective. So yes, numbers can lie.

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    • Fegasaruasㅤ

      Not to fanboy but MW3 broke sale records for first week.

      • Activi$ion

        MW3 broke sales because of MW2, it gave a good impact on the Modern Warfare series. Some people thought that MW3 will be like MW2, but better. IMO MW2 was and still is the best game from all the other CODs.

        • MW3 was the king of all CoD’s.

          Everything was on point. The maps. The weapons. The perks. The killstreaks. Weapon proficiencies. Emblems, calling cards, Elite.

          It puts IW to shame!!

          • Duke of hazard

            I heavily disagree with that, but I will put that game over IW any day of the week.

          • JadeFalcons

            Not really. Remember how OP Assassin was, which made you immune to UAVs, thermal scopes, Heartbeat Sensors, Portable Radars, Counter-UAVs, EMPs, and took away your red name? Remember the near zero recoil ACR and MP7, the nonstop spammy RSASS sniper rifle, the akimbo FMG9s, and the absolutely disgustingly strong Type 25? Remember how strong the Kick and Focus proficiencies were on most guns? Remember the nonstop Stealth Bombers and Juggernauts from the Support Package which was supposed to have non lethal streaks? Remember the Dead Man’s Hand deathstreak which was equivalent to a Javelin missile? MW3 was easily one of the most imbalanced CoDs of all time.

          • DEMOLITION12

            this guy actually thinks people used the rsass all the time.. rofl. let me guess, in bo2 everyone used shotguns and snipers!! and in ghosts everyone used ieds and thermal lmgs!!

          • JadeFalcons

            In BO2 two of the most popular weapons were the Remington and the DSR, and Ghosts yes IEDs were one of the most frequently used pieces of equipment. I ran into less thermal LMGs and more ARs like the MSBS and the R5. The RSASS outclassed the MK14 in MW3 and there was no reason to use the Dragunov over it, which is why it was seen as annoying.

          • DEMOLITION12

            lmfao

          • DanDustEmOff

            Not all guns are created equal a MK 14 which is a modern M1 grand is not as effective as the RSASS IRL so why should they be equal in the game? Ppl use those guns just to make the game harder for themselves as a challenge if all the guns are the same then you may as well just have one AR, SMG, Shotgun, LMG and Sniper rifle but that would be boring.

          • jordanxbrookes

            *Type 95

          • DanDustEmOff

            You have gotten your logic all wrong the reason that Assassin was so commonly used was because of UAV spam, Heartbeat sensors, portable radar and Marksman. I would have rather have ran quickdraw any day of the week but with the amount of campers that this franchise has you needed to run Assassin, Ninja and Sitrep.
            Anyway even with all of its faults it was still a great game having balance doesn’t make a game great or fun BO3 had relatively balanced guns but they were all boring to use because they were all hitmarker machines that required you to empty half a mag to get a kill.

          • DEMOLITION12

            ghosts did it better

      • George White

        Can we all just admit that BO1 and MW3 were the best?!?

        • DanDustEmOff

          No MW1 and MW3 are the best. BO1 was terrible online.

          • George White

            Well at least we agree that MW3 is good (it’s the best in my opinion and my favourite CoD ever)!

    • Been playing for 13 years and the last true excitement I had it launch was Black Ops 1. First year I haven’t purchased (on PC).

    • nah mw3 was the most successful cod and it wasn’t made by the original iw, It died when aw was introduced because bo2 was almost as successful as mw3

    • Element115Will

      Uhh ok I love BO1 and BO2 only after MW2 so Opinion is Opinion. Jesus Christ.

    • I loved Black Ops 1 and Black Ops 2.

      I enjoyed the SP and sometimes I go back to the MP of AW and I played BO3 for a good while.

    • ccrows

      “This franchise died after the original Infinity Ward left.”

      Let’s see MW3 broke sales records.

      & BO2 is the most requested BC in the ENTIRE 360 library.

      ^ That’s right “Numbers don’t lie”…

      • DanDustEmOff

        MW3 broke records off the back of MW2, had ppl not loved MW2 then MW3 would not have sold so well. Happy meals are the most consumed meal on the planet but that doesn’t make them good. Popularity and sales do not equal good. Numbers lie all the time.

  • ben wills

    “Additionally, Modern Warfare Remastered being bundled into the more
    expensive versions of Infinite Warfare is set to offset a lot of
    Activision’s losses for the year”

    Except that had cost associated with it to make

    • I was thinking the same. It might have been a bit of a bonus price but geez they have a whole different studio working on that title – how many salaries do you think are getting paid there? There can’t be much of an offset left.

    • physastra

      Not sure where’s! Regurgitated crap from yesteryear. Complete with all the shit that was in the original. Including over powered stuff and camping. A barely polished turd. Utter shit.

  • Good article. I read about some other sales numbers but didn’t even notice the stock price – however if you look back at Black Ops 3 time frame the stocks fell in about the same manner; just took a little longer.

    I don’t look at consoles but I just posted PC numbers yesterday. Record setting lows all around.
    http://www.callofdutyview.net/infinite-warfare/infinite-warfare-1-month-later/

  • StabTheNight

    I’m so sick of COD at this point, that it makes me happy to see that sales are down since last year. I myself didn’t buy IW this year, I played the beta and saw how trash the game was from the get go. COD went downhill right after black ops 2, surprisingly with the switch from ps3 to ps4. Ever since ghosts, it’s been obvious that Activision is worried that if the game doesn’t perform well, sales will be down, and so they’ve brought in this microtransaction BS so that they can make up for the deficit…what they don’t realise though is that as mature players (not including the six year olds playing the game) we’ve picked up on what they’re trying to do and eventually we’ll all stop giving into their shit. Soon, COD is going to fall and no one except Activision will care. It’s about time that good games like Rainbow 6 see the spotlight instead of the recycled trash we’ve been seeing for the last few years.

    • the physical sales are down, the digital sales are higher. Don’t just comment after reading the title, and everyone gets games digitally nowadays

      • StabTheNight

        If you’d bother thinking, hard copies are down by half and digital up by only 15%. For there to be an even amount of sales, there would have to be, out of every four bought copies, 3 digital copies.Thats just far-fetched mate, so if you had considered that then you’d realise that sales are down. Not everyone buys online, especially with all the hard preorder copies and editions.

        • Too my reading for me this morning shortening it for me buddy

        • DanDustEmOff

          Without figures they have no context. If BO3 physical sales were say 50 and digital sales were 500 then a 50% drop is 25 copies and a 15% increase is 75 copies. I am not saying that is the case but percentages without context are useless for extracting meaningful data.

          • Hellmetal

            For context we knew that bo3 digital only did 30% of physical. so lets say physical did 50, 30% of that is only 15. in regards to IW the game sold 25 currently the industry average for digital to physical sales is around 35% that be 9 another 15% would only be 1-2 copys. its still down on all fronts.

          • DanDustEmOff

            How do we know that month one BO3 digital sales made up 30% of all sales? Like I said, I am not saying that overall sales are not down (this trend has been going since MW3) I am just saying that without hard numbers then you can not give context unless you can show me the month one figures for BO3 I will not draw a conclusion.

          • Hellmetal

            its just an industry average of digital to physical, sure black ops 3 could have sold 5% less or more this is just around the ballpark context. as could IW theres always a + or – of around 5% in disparity.

          • DanDustEmOff

            I don’t like averages, results are easily distorted by all sorts of things and in this context you would need to know the percentage for at least month one digital to physical sales. My criticism of the comment was not that he was wrong, it was that his method for deducing that it must be is incorrect. For all we know month one sales for digital copies of bo3 could have been at 85%. That would mean that overall sales were up. Again I know that it is highly unlikely but without figures it is plausible.

    • ccrows

      “I’m so sick of COD at this point”

      Yet here you are hanging out on a COD website…

      • StabTheNight

        It’s fun to go around looking at how shit the game is. And if I’m strange hanging around after cod then what about everyone else claiming the game is shit but still paying it?

        • ccrows

          That’s why the community gets a bad rap.

          “This game sucks! COD sucks!”

          ^ Yet they’re still playing the game. HANGING OUT ON COD WEBSITES, and buying the next game at launch… (bonus points if they’re standing outside at a midnight launch)

          • StabTheNight

            Hanging around ain’t affecting anyone but you. Go find yourself something better to do instead of criticising the time spent by others.

          • Dominic

            Says the kid who finds enjoyment out of looking at forums to see how shit COD is .

          • StabTheNight

            Re read what I wrote mate. I’m telling you to leave me alone.

          • ccrows

            Ummmmm I’m here because I like COD.

            You’re just here to troll, even though deep down inside you like COD too… lol

        • Sentinel

          How is that shit fun? Get a grip!

      • Siftblade

        I want the game to be good because I want to like it. But cod has to give me a reason to enjoy it. I didn’t buy IW, the beta was one of the most unfun gaming experiences in a beta. I check here hoping to see improvement, you don’t have to be a fanboy to browse here

        • Wizgalifu

          Isn’t CharlieIntel a COD fanpage? Why is he here than if he dislikes Call of Duty?

          • Siftblade

            Its not a fanpage, it’s a news page. You come here for news about a agme whether you’re a fan or not.

          • Wizgalifu

            So let me get this straight: It’s OK for a non-fanboy to come here, a news page that is mostly about COD, hate the game he dislikes?
            If you pay attention to something you’re pretty much a fan.
            Even haters are fans!! Cause they pay a lot of attention.

          • Siftblade

            Yes. This is a COD news site. Not an IW or AW site. You can be a fan of COD as a whole and still dislike a specific game in the series. It’s not complicated

          • Wizgalifu

            I might as well visit My Little Pony page.
            I’m not a fan. I’m just there to see the news and write hate comments!

          • Siftblade

            Nice try but no. If you liked the old MLP but don’t like the direction the new one is going in, you can still check the page for news about it. Because you want it to be better. You want to like it even though you don’t like the direction they specifically went in recently. You act like people come here because they despise the series and want to pass you off. In reality, they want it to be good and they want to like it, but are consistently let down. Just because someone’s opinion differs from yours doesn’t mean they’re automatically hating for the sake of hating

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  • Brad of Duty

    Serves them right for releasing a game even worse than Advanced Warfare

    • ccrows

      AW is still worse…

      • Siftblade

        Doesn’t make IW good

  • Activi$ion

    Its really sad to see that Infinity Ward are doing this bad this this time too, Ghosts was probably a lesson for them, they tried to combine COD4, MW2 and MW3 together and they obviously failed. Now they tried the futuristic idea and it went worse. What could possibly save them is to follow the “Modern Warfare” road, just an idea, but if they made a new Modern Warfare game, they couldve add MW2 remastered. Maybe that would increase their sales. Im probably going to play MWR till the next Infinity Ward game comes out, hoping for a MW2 remastered. (fingers crossed).

    • I honestly think if Infinity Ward wants some type of redemption, then 2019 needs to be Modern Warfare 4 or prequel to Modern Warfare. Hell, make a game about Ghost. Just something about Modern Warfare i guess. It’s obvious both Ghosts and Infinite Warfare were misses.

      I dont know, even after that suggestion I brought up, I feel like Infinity Ward’s reputation is in the deep end.

    • DEMOLITION12

      ghosts was the best cod

      • Activi$ion

        I kinda liked it, but got tired of the game really quick (went up to 10th prestige though lol), but the color on the maps and most of it were depressing. Glad that you liked the game man.

        • DEMOLITION12

          i kept playing it well after i got 10th. have 26 days played on it
          hit detection is perfect as always. nearly every gun is good and fun to use. couple of perks are too essential, oracles are gay. overall it’s the most solid cod

    • Sentinel

      Okey, this is the sad part of the story. The other there are people who love it.

  • Idk why people buy digitally nowadays, i still enjoy my hard copies for the memories. I still have all my games from way back in the day from gamecube- xbox 360

    • DanDustEmOff

      Well if you have more than one console you can effectively have two copies of the game for the price of one by setting one up as a home console and playing on another. I have my sons set up as my home console and mine as a normal one so whatever I buy he can play with me without having to buy two copies of the game. This works with DLC’s as well.

  • Tested

    Not surprise. I have not bought it this year. Not paying full price for a game that is pay to win anymore.

    • Dominic

      How is it “pay to win” idiot

      • Tested

        Well i don’t own it, so i’m not sure really. but are there supply drops in the game? that give you weapons? are the odds of getting these weapons are so low that people who pay for them with real money have a higher chance of gaining the weapons? that’s pay to win. Call of duty makes so much money, them adding supplys drops just shows how little they value there players.

        • Dominic

          The weapons are available to anyone through playing the game . By the time you reach prestige master the majority of variants should be unlocked . And just because someone has a “good variant” of a weapon , that doesn’t make them anyone better in game . I still shit on people with a regular gun versus their variant gun . The variants add more of a selection of guns to the game which is good . Because of gullible players being supply drops , COD is never going to get rid of them .

          • DanDustEmOff

            I agree with you but that doesn’t make his points invalid. Yes the variants in this game do not make much of an impact but they did in AW that HBR Insanity and Hole Puncher definitely gave the players that had them a huge advantage and the presence of supply drops is bad for the game as a whole.
            You are right you do not have to buy them and you do get them through normal progression but that doesn’t mean that we should accept them.
            They are based on chance (a really low chance at that) so it is possible and common for someone who plays the game every day to get to max rank with only a hand full of the top tier weapons.
            Whereas someone who is low skilled can spend money and end up with more top tier weapons and use them to achieve results that are better than their skills would usually allow.
            That affects the balance of the game and it is purely a method of extracting every penny that they can out of the community using psychological tactics that exploit the people who pay to buy the game. Even if it is not pay to win their inclusion can lead players who refuse to buy them and have no luck with the drops to feel ripped off.

    • lunator100hd .

      Its not pay to win, its just garbage.

  • UChief

    Everybody is mostly saying that the game is bad. But don’t forget the other factors such as competition for example. This year the competition was high with great games like bf1, tf2, overwatch, gears4, etc.

    So far I am not suprised with the decline of sales.

    • lunator100hd .

      If the game was good ppl would play it. Its true what you said about competition but cod could easily be the top game among all of them, sadly its the worst and ppl eventually are gonna quit.

  • Ronald95

    Why do you people hate Sledgehammer Games and Advanced Warfare so much? Because of exos?
    Well that shows that community is not ready for a change and for that should not demand it! Shows that you have no fucking clue what you want!

    Next year Sledge announce a Vietnam COD game and y’all be dickriding on them for “saving” COD!! And we’ll be back at “same shit, different year” cycle!!

    • lunator100hd .

      When you make a change, you have to make sure its for the better not worst. Exos was done wrong and ppl of course hated it from the first moment. You cant blame the community for hating something that is bad.

      • Ronald95

        No, exos weren’t done wrong! I learned the new movement system fast and AW felt like a COD game to me – fast-pased shooter as it is!!
        People just couldn’t get used to the new movement system and blamed the game for it. And yes I’m blaming the community! Cause their whining and bitching has affected this franchise too!

        • lunator100hd .

          What you mean ”learned”? You just tap X (or A) twice and you double jump thats all, the thing is that exos made AW completely random to the point that most of your deaths werent even preventable because everyone was getting killed from behind, terrible maps and broken spwans. I dont mind 3D movement, i actually love it in Destiny,tf2 and bo3 but AW had 0 flow because obviously SH is a bunch of clueless idiot.

          • Ronald95

            “bunch of clueless idiots” – if they were that than they wouldn’t have been developers in the first place and the game would have been far worse.
            And the fact that spawns are broken and maps terrible are not something you should blame on a movement system. Not my problem people are not aware of their surroundings. I had no problem getting kills nor any problems getting killed too much.

          • lunator100hd .

            Hahahahaha , rifgt now 2 out of 3 dev teams (SH and IW) are fucking clowns pretending that work hard to make cods. This year IW prob made multiplayer in less than 10 monts because their game is basically reskin of bo3, zero innovation and creativity which is the most necessary things for an artist and a game developer also SH didnt even try to make the game worth playing because when you put 3d movement in a cod you should make sure that maps and everything else work together to support the fast-paced action otherwise the game is gonna turn into a clusterfuck garbage with no skill that almost everyone hates like it did.

          • Dominic

            Your logic lunator can apply to any previous CODS . For example MW2>BO1 , what was the innovation from MW2 to BO1? COD should be jetpacks for now on imo cause without it the game is too slow to play . Look at COD 4 remastered, the amount of campers on COD 4 is disgusting . Everyone hugs head glitches , and thats how its going to be if the next COD has no jetpacks .

          • lunator100hd .

            I love jetpacks but they have to make it right, at this rate the cod will die.

          • Dominic

            Oh yhh definitely

          • Siftblade

            Play bo2. Fast paced without the need for exos. They accomplished that with good map design and balanced weapons/scorestreaks.

          • Dominic

            Your right mate , playing MWR has made forget how good boots on the ground can be

          • DanDustEmOff

            Black Ops 2 was not fast paced, it was the campiest dullest game in the series. What you see as good map design I see as boring and lazy. The maps in BO2 were 3 lane symmetrical camp fests that could be locked down by no more than 3 average players with an LMG with target finder, shock charges and betties coupled with scavenger.
            If you take a map from… lets say MW3 Arkaden. A multi levelled, , non-symmetrical map that encouraged movement and provided counter positions and flank routes so that camping spots could be taken out and many of the maps from MW1, WaW, MW2, MW3 AW, BO3 and IW all have.
            BO1 and 2 have the worst and least imaginative map design of any FPS games ever.

          • Ronald95

            If you think making a perfect COD game is easy then try making one yourself!! Oh wait, you can’t! You don’t have the money nor skills! So shut up and let the “clueless idiots” do their jobs. You either play and accept COD games that are delivered or ignore COD and play something else!! Plenty FPS games that are much more fun and better than COD!! Battlefield is one of them!!

          • Lisa Ramos

            LOL! Dude why are you getting so mad? If people don’t like futuristic cods then oh well. AW was so easy to play especially sniping because that’s what I mainly do but I stopped playing it because the game is shit just like IW. Most cods are easy to play but so shitty in my opinion, bo3 is the best.

          • lunator100hd .

            I dont pretend im a developer you dumbass, i play cod for 9 years, sadly i know more about cod than these idiots who are destroying the game year after year. At the end of the day they get paid but all the leave behind is a bat cod not worth playing. They ruin the game i like, im not even sure if im gonna buy the next SH title, i just hope this guys lose their job (IW also) and bring buck the ppl who create cod, these are the guys who knows the recipe, those scrubs needs to go, maybe go to ruin battlefield because i dont care about this game, hahahahaha know that im thinking , battlefield with sbmm and jet packs made by SH, that would be sweeeet.

          • DanDustEmOff

            The rumour is that after Ghosts, Activision didn’t trust IW enough to take a back seat during development and mid development bought in Treyarch to lead multiplayer development. The Multiplayer lead left to go back to Respawn because Activision wanted a reskined BO3 and forced it upon them which is why you can see a massive list of Treyarch developers in the credits at the end of the single player. This explains why the game was missing some features and the BETA came so late into the games development.

        • Dominic

          Your right about people that haven’t learned the new movement . Id say about 3 quarters of COD players still cant jump and shoot at the same time , hence they get shit on and then criticise the game cause they are bad.

        • There was nothing to learn in AW. My first thought when I played AW on day one was literally “wow this is fucking easy”

          There is nothing difficult or to learn about pressing X to jump really high. These games aren’t difficult or tactical. It’s easy. Super easy. You know maybe, just maybe people shit on these games because perhaps these games are ACTUALLY bad.

      • Astraxis

        Console controllers couldn’t handle it, and PC games were all over that shit since it more or less got “on par” with the maneuverability expected from a PC game. The biggest complaint I’ve heard is that it was hard to control; Sledgehammer honestly should’ve focused on the PC market for Advanced Warfare.

        • Ronald95

          Well the majority of COD players are on consoles and PC community is, in my opinion, slowly dying. Right now there is no point hoping that developers will focus on PC more.

    • Rob Melchor

      COD has grown, new players have joined the community and a lot of them (including myself) find the old boots on the ground slow, boring and campy.

      Everyone was telling me how amazing MWR was and all that nostalgic hype. I pre-ordered the digital deluxe edition and I love IW, sure it had a rought start with the betas but now it’s a great game. MWR is boring, slow, campy like Battlefield 1.

      That’s my honest opinion.

      • SpreeFFA

        i dont like u rob

      • DanDustEmOff

        I started playing at Call of Duty 3 and I agree with you. MWR as good as it was in its day is slow and boring by comparison to the games of today.

        But boots on the ground doesn’t need to be slow and boring, creative map design can prevent this, the problem is that the community loves 3 lane map design which promotes camping and produce boring repetitive gun fights.

        I hated AW and BO3 but I am really enjoying IW. I like the guns, the maps, the perks, the pace and many other things that IW have gotten right that Treyarch and Sledgehammer got wrong.

    • Siftblade

      But we’ve been asking for things to be different since AW because we didn’t like exos. Clearly the community knows what it wants, no exos, no advanced movement, no microtransactions in the form of random boxes. The community had a loyal fanbase before exos. The people who didn’t play COD wjere the ones saying same shit different year. Now they took the loyal fan base and split it because they want to be like halo, destiny, and Titanfall so badly. This is their fault. They should have tested the exo idea with one game and seen the reaction before committing. Instead they dedicated 3+ games to future movement even though people hated it. Stupid move by Activisions part and they’re getting punished for splitting their fanbase

      • Ronald95

        Well get over it now. All 3 developers now have given a futuristic game with different movement system. I’m pretty sure the next game will be boots on the ground and in the past. And a fan base can’t stay the same forever just like the game. Time to understand that you either accept and play the COD game they deliver or move on to another shooter. There are plenty to choose.

    • We’re already doing same shit, different year. Look at the last three years, genius. You honestly believe it’s any different with these newer games? LOL

      • Ronald95

        Guess I could say the same about your and most peoples attitude towards COD.

        • does people’s attitudes hurt your wlittle feelings? Do you need a safe space?

          • Ronald95

            Hurt my feelings? Do you seriously think I give a shit about what you and others think about a video game? I came here cause I’m bored. Instead of hating COD, like everyone does nowadays, I tried to defend it. Seems I failed like I failed in life. Will you arrest me now officer? Did I break the law?

          • I mean it kinda shows you give a shit with your replies.

          • Ronald95

            Well I don’t. Cause we’re all tough guys on the Internet but pussies in real life. If people wanted COD to get better they would go behind company doors.

          • jordanxbrookes

            “Do you need a safe space?” lmao.

          • Inifnite Tears

            Nah fam give that fool a pacifier… or better yet, give one to all them toddlers that still defend IW

    • >why do you hate a directionless game with shittily designed maps, garbage killstreaks, and only two usable guns?!?!?!

      LOL

      • TMZ Censored Me

        I think a better question is if that’s how you feel about the game, then why are you even here?

        • Didn’t realize AW was the only Call of Duty related thing. Interesting.

          • TMZ Censored Me

            Huh? I never said anything about AW.

          • His comment was about Advanced Warfare.

        • bc I actually enjoy CoD when it’s done right (or moderately well I suppose?).

          Loved WaW, MW2, BO1, BO2, MW3 in its first three months, BO3 in its first three months, and IW is so far actually quite fun even though it’s blatantly garbage.

        • Yo mumma.

          Because stupid people bitch about stupid shit..

      • Clint Eastwood

        Why are we talking about Halo 4?

    • ToonToons22

      I’ll tell you why AW was hated so much. First off, AW was what introduced Supply Drops and micro-DLC into COD. Next, there’s the exo suits that changed the COD movement system drastically. Then, there’s the overpowered weapon variants that were only nerfed AFTER the game’s life cycle had ended.

      • DanDustEmOff

        Black Ops 2 was the game that bought micro transactions and micro DLC’s to the table with customisation packs, AW just took it to a whole other level. This was not the devs fault this is purely Activision trying to milk as much as they can by adding a gambling mini game to prey on the desperate and gullible.

  • MurkN101

    To be fair, digital shit doesn’t stink as bad as physical shit. It’s easier to use the delete button than use a full roll of toilet paper.

  • Rob Melchor

    No news on IW’s weapon balancing? Charlie Intel don’t drop the ball xD

  • Sentinel

    I sense that gamestop will soon close their door like blockbuster did. Digital sales and streaming is the new era.

  • Sentinel

    Either Advanced Warfare 2 or back to boost on ground. What card are they going to play…funny thing is that Sledgehammer is already halfway thru their development of their next COD.

  • Sentinel

    I’m back bitches.

    • Dominic

      welcome back

    • Dre

      About time bitch

  • ToonToons22

    All the fights going on in this comments section, what does that show about our community? We used to be a great community back in the day. Now COD is going downhill and so are we.

    Who’s at fault here? The COD developers that produce the games we argue about? Or is it us, the community, that gives COD a bad name by starting these arguments?

    • Lol it’s the internet. Where shit talking and arguments happen. And wait, the community was clean back in the day? Lol the community is still argumentative and toxic just like it was back then lol.

      • ToonToons22

        I don’t know, but the community seems more deeply divided now than in the BO2 days and before. Too many people disagree on whether or not IW is a great game.

    • Sentinel

      Simple, there’s part of the community that hate & bitch ’bout 3D movement and future setting. Then there’s part of the community who don’t mind it but would rather not have another future setting. Ohh there are those ignorant people here who don’t know what they are talking about.

  • Wizgalifu

    I know you hate Sledgehammer Games because they created Advanced Warfare. After the reveal of MW3 people started to call COD “same shit, different year” and demanded change. Sledgehammer heard and delivered Advanced Warfare, a different COD game nowhere near as same as previous titles. But the change wasn’t accepted and loved. But they listened.
    Let’s hope Sledgehammer Games heard your criticism about futuristic games and deliver us a boots on the ground next year. Fingers crossed for Vietnam or WW2. Next time be more specific with the word “change”.

    • Sentinel

      I think they should leave WW2 era to Treyarch! They should really focus on Vietnam or just make up some war story in a modern era.

      • Wizgalifu

        Maybe: IW focus on Modern era, Treyarch on WW and Sledgehammer on Vietnam/Cold War!

    • lol this comment again. Hey idiot. NO ONE asked for a future setting. Did we want new things for CoD, yes. I would admit and say yes I did want change. Did I say I wanted the devs to bring us to the future with flying jet packs and wall running bullshit? No. Not one person asked for this setting. We only wanted new mechanics, new, fun kill/score streaks, fun/good looking maps, balanced guns/gameplay, different genders (Ghosts delivered), more customization and personality in our gameplay (Black Ops 3 delivered with the specialists). Don’t say shit that isn’t true. You have no idea what we wanted. You have no idea what feedback the community was trying to give to the developers. You’re too narrow minded to actually know what change the community wanted. Stop talking bullshit and leave the real fans to give feedback to the devs because people like you are the reason they release moronic games every year.

      • Wizgalifu

        “NO ONE asked for a future setting.” – that’s the problem. People should have been more specific what they meant with change, cause word “change” is a big word. Express your thoughts next time.

        • Wizgalifu

          And real fans would love every COD game no matter the era! Only would complain about flaws like lag comp,TDK and supply drops in IW.
          I’m pretty sure if IW wouldn’t have these flaws, multiplayer would have been perfect.

          • Wizgalifu

            And supply drops are here because they brought a lot of money to Activision.
            Because the majority of people still spend real money on microtransactions in COD today!
            I hate microtransactions and I haven’t spend a single euro on them!!
            But I see no point hoping them to disappear for good. It’s up to people who spend real money on these things.
            But who am I to tell them how they should spend their money.

      • DEMOLITION12

        nobody asked for different gender you stupid commie. females should have nothing to do with war

        • Dre

          Pulling you’re head out of your ass buddy

    • MW3 was totally unoriginal and they did need to change, and Advanced Warfare was exactly that. People can complain all they like but that game was a totally fresh COD experience and I loved it. COD has gotten so tired and repetitive, honestly if they went back to the boots on ground style again after AW then people would’ve probably been happy and maybe not hated AW as much, but instead they’re still continuing what AW started.

      Honestly COD could do with a total overhaul and a different development cycle to stop the developers from reskinning what the previous developer did every damn time.

      • Dre

        Why do we need a new cod every year?

      • Clint Eastwood

        CoD needed to change, but AW wasn’t the right type of change. Change is good when it makes things better. CoD needs to look at what its competitors are doing successfully and take a page out of their book

        • I still disagree, I think it’s the change it needed purely to shake things up and get away from the same formula, but it would’ve worked better as a standalone game separate from the main franchise. As soon as they decided to copy the AW boost/exo thing and supply drops in the next game (and the game after that) they killed it.

          I agree though, they should spend more time looking at what their competitors are doing instead of what the other COD developers are doing.

    • Clint Eastwood

      No offense, but your comment is oversimplifying the situation. Yes, people said that Call of Duty was the same every year. It had the same graphics, the same physics, it ran on the same engine with minor tweaks, it had the same story structure, the same character archetypes, the same story tropes, the same weapons with new skins, the same killstreaks with new skins. Those were the things people wanted to change! Now we still have all of those things, but with boost jumps in a sci-fi setting! They changed nothing except for the one change no one asked for.

      They didn’t listen to fans. They looked at the hype Titanfall and Destiny were getting and though they saw a trend they could chase.

      CoD is still the same thing it has always been, except they strapped rockets onto it and blasted it into space.

  • Diego Diniz

    Step 1: Play Infinite Warfare
    Step 2: Close the app
    Step 3: Play BLACK OPS 3 and say: THATS WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!!!

    • lunator100hd .

      100% true.

    • GinsuVictim

      I like IW, but I’ve already gone back to BO3. That shouldn’t happen.

      • Diego Diniz

        Every little thing in Black Ops 3 is better:
        – Maps
        – Weapons
        – Weapons sounds
        – Hitmarker Sound (NO Headshot sound on IW)
        – Colors
        – Specialists
        etc etc etc etc

    • lunator100hd .

      I hope they get recycled.

  • Commander Wolfe

    Of course they’re down. What were you expecting to happen with this game?

  • Darrell Hampton
  • P-Natra

    It´s not about the Setting. It´s about the creation of a COD game (fair and good gameplay / good connection / good 3 lane maps / no lags / good TTK / good aim assist / fair spawns). Only Treyarch know how to make a good COD right now! Back than when V. Zampella was at Infinity Ward this was another team! From Sledgehammer Games a good COD hahhahahhaha. It doesn´t matter which Setting. They can´t make a COD! but Actvision counts on Destiny 2 in year 2017!!!

    • DanDustEmOff

      There are no such things as good 3 lane maps they are boring and lack imagination and only lend themselves to people that want to camp behind a head glitch having the same gunfight over and over with the odds stacked in their favour.
      No lag is impossible since networking has this whole speed of light problem to sort out first. Treyarch typically make terrible Call of Duty games. BO3 would have been great (WaW, BO1 and 2 were crap) but they just couldn’t resist the urge to nerf everything to the point where it is useless and they still haven’t fixed the footstep audio sync problem that they have had since BO1.
      Even something as simple as running just doesn’t feel right in Treyarch games and all they need to do is correctly sync the movement and sound.

  • 蒋筱川

    COD is lame.