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Apex Legends dev hits back at claims Winter Express LTM is “recycled”

Respawn’s Senior Game Designer has given a detailed response to claims that this year’s Winter Express LTM is a “recycled mode.”



Apex Legends’ Holo-Day Bash event is underway, but some fans were critical of the return of the Winter Express LTM, calling it “recycled.”

Apex Legends has had its Holiday-themed overhaul with the start of the Holo-Day Bash. With it came challenges, new and returning cosmetics to purchase, and the return of a fan-favorite limited time mode (LTM).

The Winter Express LTM first appeared in Apex Legends with 2019’s Holo-Day Bash event. To put it simply, squads must fight for control of a train that revolves around the World’s Edge map. It’s different to the regular BR that Apex usually is, with players being allowed to respawn and using set loadouts rather than looting.

This mode was extremely popular last year, so Respawn brought it back with some much-needed updates and changes. New stations and loadouts have been added, as well as being allowed to respawn and get back to the fight quicker.

On the Holo-Day Bash announcement post on the Apex Legends subreddit, some were critical of the LTM returning, calling it a “recycled mode.”

Respawn’s response

Senior Game Designer Daniel Klein gave a lengthy response to the claims.

“I really wouldn’t call Winter Express a recycled mode,” he replied. “Mark worked his ass off to make it so much better. Between the supply ships and the new stations and a LOT of behind the scenes changes to reduce downtime it feels so much better to me.”

User avengingewok responded to Klein, saying although they appreciate the hard work and are glad to see it return, “it’s still recycled.”

“Real talk, this took more effort than making a mode like, I don’t know, Armed and Dangerous,” Klein fired back.

“We’re still figuring out what we want to do; Winter Express seemed like a no-brainer because it didn’t show quite as steep a dropoff (if I remember correctly) and it’s clearly a very different experience. We put a lot of effort into v2; I think a lot of that was also that we subjectively love the mode.”

Klein concluded by saying bringing LTMs are always a difficult choice because what players ask for on Reddit and what they actually play are quite different.

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Apex Legends Season 8 early patch notes

Some of the early patch notes for Apex Legends Season 8 are already available with some key updates known to be incoming.



apex legends season 8 map

We already know lots of confirmed changes coming in the Apex Legends Season 8: Mayhem update. Take a look at some of the upcoming patch notes that you can expect in the February 2 patch notes.

Much of the hype for Season 8 has been directed towards the new Legend on his way from the planet Salvo – Fuse. He’ll also be bringing his deadly 30-30 Repeater Rifle to the party to spice things up as well.

There other changes to be expected in the brand new season, with many players looking forward to all the new buffs and nerfs. Some changes have already been announced by Respawn Entertainment ahead of the game’s new season. It’s not an extensive list, but it gives some indication as to the way some of the Legends are heading.

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Apex Legends Season 8 changes

Just to reiterate, this is not an exhaustive list of the complete changes. This is only a taste of things to come.

Once we do have the final slew of Apex Legends Season 8 then we will post them all.



  • Making Amped Cover more efficient by adding 45 health


  • Changing her hitbox to be more similar to other Legends


  • It seems that Horizon’s tactical ability is going to be the main change


  • Hitbox changes could also be on the way for Revenant


  • Respawn wants to make Wattson more appealing and are finding ways to make them more eligible as a choice


  • Fix for decoys making too much noise with footsteps


  • Caustic hammer breaking doors

Quality of Life

  • In-game damage tracker added

Bug Fixes

  • Heirloom store not showing all Heirlooms
  • Players told they are buying Gibraltar’s Heirloom when buying Caustic’s Heirloom
  • Legend skins for Mirage and Bangalore affecting aim down sights
  • Errors relating to private matches
  • Players can’t hear each other in cross-play lobbies

That covers all the details that have been released so far. As we said, once we know about the full changes coming to Season 8 we’ll be sure to post them.

Image credits: Respawn Entertainment

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Apex Legends teams hilariously play volleyball in-game with Cargo Bots

Some Apex Legends players went viral after starting a game of Volleyball with Octane’s Jump Pad and a few Cargo Bots.



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A few Apex Legends fans stopped a match to play a game of Volleyball with Octane’s Jump Pad and a few Cargo Bots. This led to some hilarious results, and the clip has gone viral in the Apex community.

Apex Legends is known for its massive maps which serve as large-scale playgrounds for you to explore. Through this, you can discover brand new combat strategies, hiding spots, and tricks to practice. Alternatively, you can just mess around.

Players have been discovering fun activities to pass the time in the Battle Royale ever since it first launched. We’ve seen various creative endeavors from fans, and now a new one has been found; playing volleyball with Cargo Bots.

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Teams play Cargo Bot volleyball in Apex Legends

Reddit user BeanBag373 posted a fun clip to the Apex Legends subreddit, in which they enacted a brilliant plan with the help of a few other players.

They were able to get their hands on a grounded Cargo Bot and rolled it all the way up to a spot where they had set up a makeshift Volleyball court. This consisted of Octane’s jump pads, and they would use them with Pathfinder’s zipline. 

As time passed, even more players came across this and decided to join in on the fun. Rather than messing things up for everyone, they picked up on the rules and played the game. The clip gets even funnier as more people get involved.

Eventually, someone tried to ruin the fun by shooting up the players. However, they didn’t let this ruin their resolve and continued playing as the circle got even closer. They only stopped once the area became too small to stand in.

At that point, you can predict what happened next. Everybody started shooting at each other and using their Ultimate abilities, which led to mass chaos and mayhem. Sadly, this was inevitable as the shrinking circle incites conflict.

Despite that, this was still a hilarious moment of different players coming together to have dumb fun. This is why you should play Apex Legends creatively since you can discover other neat tricks when messing around.

Image Credits: Respawn Entertainment

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Apex Legends Season 8 Trailer shows new Fuse legend and abilities

Apex Legends Season 8 shows us some new content coming to the game, including new legend Fuse and map changes.



The newest Apex Legends Season 8 Trailer shows us some new content coming up for the game’s newest content season, titled “Mayhem”.

This season we will see the introduction of the new legend, Fuse, who has been teased for quite some time now. Alongside this new legend also comes huge map changes. Here’s the rundown.

New Legend – Fuse

Fuse is an explosives focused Legend, with a kit that seems to not disappoint. According to the trailer, Fuse is seen throwing his own unique grenades, which look very similar to a grenade model leaked earlier this month. If that same leak is true, then the grenades are called “Projectile Grenades” and his ultimate is called “Firebomb”.

As a character, Fuse seems to be a sarcastic and energetic Legend, so his personality will mesh right into the current Apex Legends cast.

King’s Canyon Changes

Map changes also appear to be on the horizon for Season 8. During the trailer, a large explosion sends a shockwave throughout King’s Canyon, causing havoc to the entire map, taking down landmasses and buildings.

We can expect the new update to bring a large map overhaul, consisting mostly of already existing, but destroyed areas. Hopefully, this update will also bring us new locations, or even secrets hidden beneath the map. This may also remove some bodies of water scattered across the map, so it’s sure to be an exciting change.

You can view the full season 8 trailer here.

Image Credits: Respawn Entertainment

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